Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Stratos as a TLP

tratos podling; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > Incubator Stratos podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator > Project are hereafter discharged. > -

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Stratos as a TLP

ject; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby > > > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > > > Incubator Stratos podling; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLV

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

al commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > --------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.or

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

t was okay for > projects to have their own directions. Usually, people join open source > projects as committers after having demonstrated they have some interest in > what's been done so far. > > I have a sinking feeling that this could all be just a big > misundersta

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

ather have us investing time and money into it too? And w.r.t. mentoring - I'm a member and I have a right to offer to mentor. You could've replied and accepted or said no thanks for reason XYZ. You did neither. Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, I

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

ly becomes > > > a podling then, of course, the podling decides how high or low that > > > bar is. > > > > > > But we aren't talking about that. > > > > > > > So during the "initial proposal stage" anyone who volunteers goe

Re: [VOTE] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

gt; > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Did you see what you replied too?? "propose a vote" and > > the subject sez [VOTE]. :) > > > > On Sep 23, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana > wrote: > > > > > Are you go

Re: [PROPOSAL] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

no "favorites" and allow the > community to determine its own course and direction. > > On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana > wrote: > > > Of course not Jim - I do realize you're involved with OpenShift and I > > didn't by any means s

Re: [VOTE] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

h like that employed by the Apache Cordova project (documented > here http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/ContributorWorkflow). > > === Issue Tracking === > JIRA Usergrid (USERGRID) > > === Other Resources === > None. > > > == Initial Committers == > > * Alberto Leal (Globo.com) > * Alex Ka

Re: [PROPOSAL] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

importance of keeping > things clear with new podlings... sometimes misunderstanding > can happen in the most innocuous ways. > > On Sep 22, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Luciano Resende >wrote: > > > >> On

Re: [PROPOSAL] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

gt; > +1 > Nothing in my mail suggested otherwise. OTOH, as an ASF Member, it always pleases me when ASF projects collaborate with each other. Certainly the ASF *should* encourage that. Jim isn't that any longer the case? Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Chairman & CEO

Re: [PROPOSAL] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

to it's single source and >> existing ASLv2 licensing. >> >> >> == External Dependencies == >> >> Most dependencies are Apache compatible licenses (Category A). A small set >> of Category B licenses, like the CDDL exists. For more details please see >&g

Re: [PROPOSAL] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

we would like to keep > leveraging the extremely useful github facilities for workflow using a > process much like that employed by the Apache Cordova project (documented > here http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/ContributorWorkflow). > > === Issue Tracking === > JIRA Usergrid (USERGRID) >

does ASF now require copyright transfer??

as that changed? Thus, if the code had Copyright WSO2 (in this particular project's case) it can continue to have them too. Thanks for clarifying! Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ email: sanj...@wso2.com; phone: +94 11 763 961

Re: [RESULT] Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

resulting in a further IPMC vote. > >> > >> This vote is *only* for accepting the Stratos project as a podling. > >> > >> [ ] +1 Accept the Stratos project as an incubating project > >> [ ] +0 > >> [ ] -1 Do not accept the Stratos project as an incubat

Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

t; >> > >> If Stratos later experiences frustration regarding the Incubator's > >> conflicting > >> rules and inconsistent enforcement of rules, now they'll know where that > >> comes > >> from. > >> > >> Marvin Humphrey &g

Re: Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

e. > > Lets not add unnecessary bureaucracy during the initial set-up phase. > > Ross > > On 17 June 2013 19:01, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana > wrote: > >> Debo Dutta, cc'ed, from Cisco, will be joining

Stratos proposal: is it possible to add another initial committer?

Debo Dutta, cc'ed, from Cisco, will be joining the project and it took a bit of time to get it sorted. I realize this is a late request as the VOTE is already running .. is it ok to add him now? ;-) If not we will bring him after the project starts. Cheers, Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weeraw

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

Stratos project as an incubating project > [ ] +0 > [ ] -1 Do not accept the Stratos project as an incubating project > because... (provide reason) > +1 (non-binding). Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ email: sanj...@wso2.c

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

ement you made > earlier: > > "if StratosLive is too close to home we can certainly change it. Bit > painful but not impossible." > Will do - I will go further and state that by the time the project graduates we will deprecate "WSO2 StratosLive." Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva We

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

e thoughts on this. > I understand that but, using your own metric (would there be consumer confusion between Apache Stratos and WSO2 XXX), I would argue that there will be no consumer confusion as to whether what they're downloading is an Apache product or a WSO2 one. Anyway, we are not goi

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

n? IIRC they've been doing that for years and presumably ASF is aware of it? Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ email: sanj...@wso2.com; phone: +94 11 763 9614; cell: +94 77 787 6880 | +1 650 265 8311 blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/ Lean . Enterprise . Middleware

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

ng like that). Shane do you have thoughts on that? That idea is based on what some others do and it seems to me is clear enough that its not just the Apache code being redistributed but has more stuff. Analogous to Redhat being a Linux distribution. Cheers, Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana

Re: [VOTE] Retire Stonehenge

> > [] +1 - please retire > [] +/-0 > [] -1 - please don't retire, because... > > > > -- > Daniel Kulp > dk...@apache.org > http://dankulp.com/blog > Talend - http://www.talend.com -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Director & Chief Scientist;

Re: Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

I have been active before :). So the vote is binding. Sanjiva. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:42 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 6/10/2011 12:04 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > > > > (Officially I'm on the incubator PMC I believe but I have not been active > .. > &

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

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Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

un them whenever a new patch is submitted. This can be > added after project creation. > > = Initial Committers = > > * Andrew Bayer (abayer at cloudera dot com) > * Jonathan Hsieh (jon at cloudera dot com) > * Patrick Hunt (phunt at cloudera dot com) > * Aaron Kimba

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http:

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

sues for several years now. I think it is a fair > question to ask whether we should think about different / more > selective criteria for entrance to the incubator. Sorry if asking > that question offends you. > +1. Those (esp. members) who find that question offensive need to

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

you can't negotiate with the ASF in a board room or on conference calls. Need to make the case here. I attempted to guess IBM strategy in this in my previous mail. Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Fo

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

days ;-) > > It is amazing how much paperwork is involved, at a large corporation, to > enable such things. > > -Rob > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-ma

Re: [VOTE] Accept Airavata into the Incubator

> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

sue Tracking > > JIRA Celix > Other Resources > > - CMake > > Celix uses Cmake as build environment. CMake generates Make files for > building, bundling and deploying Celix. > This build environment can also be used by project using Celix, it provides > simple

Re: When a committer leaves ...

com/2qq9er > > I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc > > I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.ap

Re: Subversion full/partial committer (was: Re: an experiment)

lished project which has its own structure those are all part of the "price" of being in the ASF. Nothin' wrong with it at all IMO: All good things come at a price. Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.

Re: Subversion full/partial committer (was: Re: an experiment)

don't understand why Subversion doesn't need to follow the same processes and terminology. This should've been dealt with during incubation in fact. (Not sure why its copied to gene...@incubator since Subversion has graduated ... but I saw and commented because it is.) Sanjiva. -- Sa

Re: Future of RAT

stage (and RAT is finding lots of issues) but the plan is to incorporate it into the nightly build process so we catch issue early. I am certain RAT will keep growing to handle more complexity and scenarios and it makes sense for it to become its own thing. So totally +1 from me to going TLP. Sanj

Re: Incubator proposal template

being a part of Apache. Just curious... > > Thanks, > --tim > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Director & Ch

Re: [PROPOSAL] Deltacloud Project

; Required Resources > -- > > * Mailing lists > >* deltacloud-devel >* deltacloud-commits >* deltacloud-private > > * Subversion > >* https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/deltacloud > > * Issue Tracking >

Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] Suspending Projects -- XAP

ng with > XAP, > > I am raising this as a vote. > > In favor: > >Noel J. Bergman >Martin Cooper >Craig L Russell >Ant Elder >Martin Dashhorst >Luciano Resende > Henning Schmeidehausen >Eddie O&

Re: [Proposal][Vote] Traffic Server

eed initial committers privileges. > > Yahoo developers: > > * > > Leif Hedstrom > > * > > Bryan Call > > * > > Vijaya Bhaskar Mamidi > > * > > Steve Jiang > > * > > Dima Ruban > > * > > Anirban Kundu > > * > > Andrew Hsu > > Non-Y

Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Apache VXQuery

gt; http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/VXQueryProposal > > Thanks, > Vinayak > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator

Re: [PROPOSAL] VXQuery

es in XQuery is not parsed using an XML parser. > Instead we use JavaCC to do that. > > The mention of Xerces was specifically to implement schema support in > VXQuery as per the typing requirements of the XQuery spec. > > Does that answer your question? > > Thanks, > Vina

Re: [PROPOSAL] VXQuery

gt;>> We believe in the processes, systems, and framework Apache has put in >>>>> place. >>>>> Apache is also known to foster a great community around their projects >>>>> and >>>>> provide exposure. While these points are importan

Re: VXQuery - For want of a mentor...

elp on > solving this problem. Please help :) > > Thanks, > Vinayak > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --

Re: Apache Wink Proposal

re designed for a more general problem and treat REST support as one style of services only. To that extent, I don't see a problem with a separate standalone implementation. Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.ope

Re: IP clearance and copyright transfer

ace I found (after a quick review) where you might infer copyright transfer is that there is a section named "Copyright". This could be changed to "License". Are there other places that imply that a copyright grant is required? Craig On Feb 18, 2009, at

IP clearance and copyright transfer

I was looking at: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html It seems to imply that we require copyright transfer as part of the IP clearance process. Since when do we require copyright transfer?? I thought we only require a license. Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana

Re: [VOTE] Suspending Projects -- XAP

- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

oject is not at all biased towards code from the WS TLP (such as axis2). My expectation is that this will be a good TLP candidate but we're far from that discussion yet! Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Fou

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

n work with the companies to ensure sufficient (gratis) licenses to do so on the ASF infrastructure. +1. Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ Member; Apache

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stonehenge into the Incubator

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Re: POLOKA proposal in context of existing Apache projects

roblem. Cheers Serge -Original Message- From: Sanjiva Weerawarana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:45 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Mankovskii, Serge; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: POLOKA proposal in context of

Re: POLOKA proposal in context of existing Apache projects

unity in moving the POLOKA proposal forward. Please help! Regards Serge -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ Member; Apache Software Foundati

Re: [esmeproject:2294] Re: [ESME-dev] Re: [PROPOSAL] ESME - The Enterprise Social Messaging Experiment

anditory. Is there some reason this can't be done over XMPP? What's the value of inventing another server-to-server secure federation protocol? Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & C

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stonehenge

JIRA/patch contribs too but most would be by project committers directly writing the code. Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ Member; Apache Software Fou

Re: [PROPOSAL] ESME - The Enterprise Social Messaging Experiment

fferent clients such as web and WebDynpro (SAP specific). I invite you to visit the blog: http://blog.esme.us (it MAY be slightly flaky as we've just moved servers and it hasn't been fully tested) where team members have posted a variety of information on use cases, client side

Re: [PROPOSAL] ESME - The Enterprise Social Messaging Experiment

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Re: [PROPOSAL] ESME - The Enterprise Social Messaging Experiment

after relevant messages on the list reduce to a trickle and people seem happy with the proposal. Best regards, Darren Hague - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sa

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Woden into the WS PMC

The only way this'll die is if WSDL 2.0 dies .. which I sincerely hope will not happen since its *so much* better than crappy old WSDL 1.1. Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, In

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ODE to a Top Level Project

rtaining to the Apache Incubator ODE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter discharged. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ Director;

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODE 1.0

tes look good. the same content can be used as the basis for announcement posts and for download pages. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ Director; Open Source Initi

Re: [vote] Propose OpenEJB for graduation to a TLP

portray ourselves as more than just EJB. +1 for keeping that room, but in that case maybe come up with a better name than OpenEJB? The name is clearly designed to imply certain functionality. Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.op

Re: [VOTE] Publish the Woden M7a release

general lists were: Davanum Srinivas +1 (WSPMC, IPMC) Aleksander Slominski +1 (WSPMC) Jeremy Hughes +1 (WSPMC) Ant Elder +1 (WSPMC) Graham Turrell +1 John Kaputin +1 regards, John Kaputin. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensourc

Re: [VOTE] Should we treat incubator releases differently to normal releases

me to have their artifacts be in the default repo. Furthermore, adding another repo is hardly a barrier for early adoptees of incubating podlings. Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO; W

Re: Board response to January Report on Heraldry

equirement. Set the bar > at three months from now to bring development to the list. If that does > not happen, flush it. > > Bill > > ----- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For addi

Re: [proposal] TripleSoup - a SPARQL endpoint for httpd

hink this project will be useful, innovative, and > fun! > > = References = > > {{{ > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ > [2] http://www.w3.org/RDF/ > [3] these are often called "triple stores" > [4] http://www.ics.uci.edu/~fielding/pubs/disse

Re: [VOTE] Release Synapse 0.90

Synapse 0.90 > > [ ] -1 Do not release (with comments) > > > > Paul > > > > -- > > Paul Fremantle > > > > --------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional comm

IMPORTANT license issue (was: Re: [VOTE] Apache CXF 2.0-M1 Release)

Axis/C++ folks please take a look below and respond appropriately. Thanks, Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ Director; Open Source Initiati

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Harmony to TLP status (pending board approval)

+1 & congratulations! Sanjiva. On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 07:02 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > The Apache Harmony community has voted to request graduation > from the Incubator as a TLP. > > 200610.mbox/[EMAIL PRO

RE: Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 02:09 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > I'd previously suggested (with an fresh message topic, even) a meeting at > ApacheCon > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > but no one replied. I'm still game for an Incubation meeting with whomever > wants to gather. If this is

Re: [VOTE] Publish the Woden Milestone 6 release

Sorry guys .. +1 from me. Sanjiva. On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 11:52 +0100, John Kaputin (gmail) wrote: > I have not yet had any response to the second VOTE request after I re-rolled > the Woden M6 release files. This is becoming urgent as the M6 release is > required for upcoming the Axis2 1.1 release

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 17:36 -0400, Jim Hurley wrote: > I'm not going to try and pull a Bill Clinton with "it depends what the > definition of "is" is" but I'd answer that I believe the Jini > Community > views the project as *the* Jini implementation. > > But *the* as in: "the main", "the o

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 21:42 +0300, Jukka Zitting wrote: > However, I'm still confused at the need to bring in a separate spec > project. The Jini proposal states the scope of the project to be the > "implementation" of the specification, and that scope is still valid > regardless of what happens wi

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 12:41 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > > We have a tradition, for good reason, for not giving our projects > "technology domain" ownership for implementations. I'd never support > "Apache EMail" or "Apache Web". That's why if we are going to have > "Apache Jini", it should

Re: IRC Channel?

On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 18:12 -0700, Igor Vaynberg wrote: > in wicket we use irc quiete a lot. we dont post all transcripts to the list > because in general they are too noisy to be of any use to anyone. we do have > them available for browsing on the web [1] though. we also have a search > engine th

Re: Jini?

On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 13:51 -0400, Jim Hurley wrote: > Thanks, Mark, for following up with some of the thinking. +1. > I am unclear on what the process is... can someone shed some > light? As far as the naming goes: >- how can we determine if the "Jini" name is acceptable to Apache? With Ma

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

"tinkiri"? Tin is tin .. kiri is milk. Tinkiri literally means milk in a tin but really its used to refer to condensed milk.. which is the kind of milk that comes in a tin. Condensed milk is of course a sweet, gooey substance that's like a glue (very sticky). Connects with everything it touches ;-

Re: [rant] seperate policy change from proposal discussion

ABSOLUTELY +1! I also feel really terrible about our "unprofessionalism" when it comes to handling proposals. +1 for another list for proposal submissions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] and for this to remain for the current purpose. Sanjiva. On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 23:24 -0700, Leo Simons wrote: > > It must

Re: Jini?

On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 10:55 -0700, Leo Simons wrote: > FWIW your private discussion (where Geir and me where CCed) was not a "crime" > (yes I saw the smiley!). The ASF understands how hard it can sometimes be to > "interface" open source projects to the corporate world. Absolutely +1. > Yet it wo

Re: Jini?

On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 14:13 -0400, Jim Hurley wrote: > > We did start considering alternative names, but there's a strong > reluctance to changing names. That's primarily because of the name > recognition we've built up around the technology and Community > during the past number of years, as well

Jini?

So whatever happened to the Jini proposal?? I just remembered that there was a lot of discussion but don't recall the conclusion. Sanjiva. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Project Naming (was Re: [VOTE] Accept Glasgow into Incubator)

IMO the reason this naming debate hasn't been settled is because of the way in which the change from Blaze to Glasgow was achieved: it was done privately and the result was announced here. I can imagine how frustrating this must be to folks who are new to Apache, but folks here don't like private

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 21:18 -0700, Cliff Schmidt wrote: > > > > Umm, I don't think so. As a TAG member, I encountered many discussions > > that were in members-only areas, and they are still going on (XML > > Schema, > > for example). The TAG would refuse to participate in any such > > discussion

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 12:36 -0400, Carl Trieloff wrote: > Brian, > > Just as in JCP, OASIS or W3C the real work happens on private channels, > that said we are in > the process of creating public pages, from which to link user and > feedback lists for anyone to > read, access and interact with t

Re: [VOTE] Request to release Tuscany C++ M1

+1 from me as well. Congrats! Sanjiva. On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 08:55 +0100, ant elder wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > All the packaging etc of this release looks ok to me (though I still can't > get the web service sample to work, I'll raise a JIRA about that). > > This vote has been going a week

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 22:25 -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > The rule at Apache is that, unless we have prior use, avoid a name > that is already registered. Whether or not someone else did the > homework > for Synapse is another matter that will likely be brought up with that > project before

Re: piling on

On Sun, 2006-07-23 at 15:52 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > let's be honest - the policy document is a mess. > > i can't even get 3 +1's to remove commented out material from the policy > document. +1 from me for removing cruft ;-). Sanjiva. ---

Re: piling on

On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 15:00 -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > I think so -- an unwelcome mentor is a waste of everyone's time. > > I also think mentors need commit access, since I don't believe it is ^^ This is the documented practice; see http://incubator.apa

Re: [Proposal] Blaze

On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 13:53 -0400, Carl Trieloff wrote: > Sanjiva, > > List is fine / no issues there - and I know anyone can join the project > once accepted if they show contribution and understanding of the > project. I have however been lead to believe that it is fine to > discuss where peo

Re: piling on

On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 14:54 -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > On Jul 19, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > > This piling on behavior seems to have come from the notion that if > > you get > > on the initial vote, you're in, but otherwise you have to earn > > committership. And the just

Re: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 21:28 -0400, Dan Diephouse wrote: > > > > +1 Noel. I'd like to join the PPMC too as an interested party observer. > > I will poke my nose in as a mentor when possible but don't have the > > cycles to commit to it. > Hi Sanjiva, > > I'm confused, you're saying you don't have t

Re: [Proposal] Blaze

On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 22:33 -0400, Carl Trieloff wrote: > Carl Trieloff wrote: > > > > Sahan, > > > > Thank you for your interest, do you mind if we do a brief call > (or email...or discuss right here on the list -- whatever your preference) > > to understand > > what your interest is and what or w

Re: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 23:02 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote: > now hani's becoming a somewhat important and certainly famous figure in the > java ecosystem i hope that he'd start to realize that some people are hurt > by his offensive posts and lay off the personal stuff with those folks who > d

RE: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 21:38 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Jason, > > I am +1 for the project, overall. > > I do suggest that we start out with the PPMC of you and the other Mentors, > have you bring Dan and other appropriate people onto the PMC as your first > order of business, and them go abo

Re: [VOTE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

+1. Sanjiva. On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 08:48 +0200, Jason van Zyl wrote: > Hi, > > There has been plenty of discussion around the CeltiXfire proposal, > we feel that all the issues forwarded have been addressed, and we > would now like to officially propose CeltiXfire to the Incubator for > co

Re: Acceptance Vote Duration? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 12:50 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > is 72 hours the right length for an acceptance vote? I'd prefer a bit more time .. like the time for graduation etc. - these are BIG decisions and unlike code decisions hard to revert. As such I think we should not rush things.

Re: Graduate Synapse - was Re: [VOTE] Release Synapse

+1 for graduation and +1 for closing the vote. The normal period is 72 hours, so 10 days is within the margin of error. Sanjiva. On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 10:13 +0100, Paul Fremantle wrote: > This vote has now been running for 10 days. We have 4 +1s of which 3 > are binding: > > Roy Fielding +1 > Da

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