ABSOLUTELY +1! I also feel really terrible about our "unprofessionalism" when it comes to handling proposals.
+1 for another list for proposal submissions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] and for this to remain for the current purpose. Sanjiva. On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 23:24 -0700, Leo Simons wrote: > <rant> > It must be sooo frustrating for new projects coming in. They read the > websites, read the mail archives, talk to loads and loads of people, > and when they think they get it all right they send in a proposal. And > then, more often than not, someone somewhere within the ASF sees > "something" that is somehow wrong, and off we go to institute a new > "rule" on the fly to make the new proposal somehow "invalid". > > The latest example is all the debate surrounding whether or not the > "glasgow" name is appropriate. Up until about a week or two ago, it > certainly was accepted practice (just look around), and now 'suddenly' > there's messiness. Its ok if opinions change (we had a loooong debate > a few years ago about "geronimo" as a name and that made it), but it > must be very confusing. > > Perhaps we should try and seperate this somewhat more rigidly. Eg we > could have a "released" version of all the things we want a project to > do and/or comply with (this is our website) and we could have an > "in progress" version of the same thing (this is what changes more > rapidly). And *new proposals should be evaluated against the "released" > one*. > > Interested or concerned ASF members popping up out of the blue every > now and then (Re: the threads on members@ about this) should then be > restricting themselves to discussing the general case, so that specific > ones can be somewhat less contentious at the start, which is probably > quite healthy from a community-building point of view. Communities > starting off ever so slightly irritated at on-the-fly rulemaking seems > an unhealthy thing. > > Perhaps we should have two mailing lists. > </rant> > > WDYT? > > LSD > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]