al message From: glen Date:
1/7/22 19:51 (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The
Insurrection Index I'll play! But I'd push not for *an* ABM, but a
constellation of models, maybe not all ABMs. The main reason is for parallax.
But a side reason is to explor
ld just be more reliably
fatal.
From: Friam on behalf of Steve Smith
Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 1:12 PM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Insurrection Index
On 1/7/22 11:14 AM, glen wrote:
> Thanks for that validation. I think SteveS' conception is rooted in
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On 1/7/22 11:14 AM, glen wrote:
Thanks for that validation. I think SteveS' conception is rooted in
the US' typical puritanical approach to everything. I admit I'm
ignorant of the history of HR. But my sense is that non-US regions
have a richer cultural approach to handling drugs. Even China,
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*From:* Friam on behalf of Gary Schiltz
*Sent:* Friday, January 7, 2022 11:36 AM
*To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
behalf of Gary Schiltz
Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 11:36 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
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I’m in favor of what you describe, David. Good luck getting legislation in the
USA passed that would enable that. (sarcasm mode on) S
I'll play! But I'd push not for *an* ABM, but a constellation of models, maybe
not all ABMs. The main reason is for parallax. But a side reason is to explore
the foundations of democracy. I just watched this talk (in celebration of World
Logic Day next Friday):
https://formalethics.org/sdm_dow
I’m in favor of what you describe, David. Good luck getting legislation in
the USA passed that would enable that. (sarcasm mode on) Speaking of the
word “enable”, I believe the pushback would be that such laws would be
enablers by decreasing the risk of taking drugs. The risk makes drugs less
appea
Robinson (e.g. "Economic Origins of Dictatorship and
Democracy") or to the book "What is populism?" from Jan-Werner Müller.Anyone
else interested in this topic?-J.
Original message From: glen Date:
1/6/22 15:36 (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re:
Thanks for that validation. I think SteveS' conception is rooted in the US'
typical puritanical approach to everything. I admit I'm ignorant of the history
of HR. But my sense is that non-US regions have a richer cultural approach to
handling drugs. Even China, which we often ridicule as totali
Hm. My conception of HR seems completely orthogonal to yours. It
*enables* liberty and autonomy. But the way you're describing it,
"do-gooder", "interfere", "spirals", "homeostasis", etc., it sounds
like an attempt to *manipulate* the users.
Precisely, that was my point, it often manifests tha
glen is describing the actual situation in Europe. I went to a lot of events
where there was a table by the entrance where you could test the drugs
(including heroin and opioids that remain very illegal there) you would be
using at the event (and afterwords). This prevented both overdoses (you k
Hm. My conception of HR seems completely orthogonal to yours. It *enables* liberty and autonomy. But the way you're
describing it, "do-gooder", "interfere", "spirals", "homeostasis", etc., it
sounds like an attempt to *manipulate* the users.
It's nothing like that. By taking my street drug to s
On 1/7/22 7:01 AM, glen wrote:
.. And perhaps it's a manifestation of whatever
core physiology it is that binds the [ma|pa]ternal-individual
perspectives into a triangle. HR seems to cut a comfortable, practical
slice through the mess, much like what I imagine a steely-yet-kind
affect wou
As I read through your stories, I can't help but think of the "harm reduction" (HR) concept. There
was a decent, recent Skeptoid podcast on the decriminalization of drugs in Portugal. It talked a bit about
the difference between decriminalization and legalization. And that distinction seems to l
I think it was Churchill who supposedly said it and I always took it as
a bit tongue-in-cheek for the very reasons you highlight. My point is
that in the pursuit of (self?) governance (restraint/guidance?) we have
formed governMENTs which seem destined to be tyrannical, even if it is
(another p
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*From:* Friam on behalf of glen
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 5, 2022 4:49 PM
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That&
I hear that quote repeated and I can't help but think it's a bit exceptionalist. I'm no scholar of types of
government. But the quote, and the sentiment, always seems flawed to me, as if "democracy" were well
defined. I mean, if we can call the US and the many European governments "democracies",
*From:* Friam on behalf of glen
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That's a good point. It remi
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*From:* Friam on behalf of glen
*Sent:* Wednesday, Januar
bet it is incredibly effective
overall at destroying the cognitive life of its targets.
From: Friam on behalf of glen
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 4:49 PM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Insurrection Index
That's a good point. It reminds
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*From:* Friam on behalf of glen
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 5, 2022 12:31 PM
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Yeah, while I disagree with the minor point Barry makes about the coloring
(e.g. CA is darker but with larger pop than TX, sam
the machinery turns against them.
Marcus
From: Friam on behalf of glen
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 12:31 PM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Insurrection Index
Yeah, while I disagree with the minor point Barry makes about the coloring
(e.g. CA is darker but with la
I suppose it depends on the question. Is the question where to place
resources to tip the balance of power, esp. for the senate? It's
starting to feel like COVID. They are around, everywhere... I kind
of wonder what would happen if there were a second Jan 6th where they
were put down ha
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*From:* Friam on behalf of Barry MacKichan
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 5, 2022 11:49 AM
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This map, like many oth
hard. Would it change
anything if they were dead in front of the capitol and it was on Fox News?
From: Friam on behalf of Barry MacKichan
Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 11:49 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM
This map, like many others, is pretty much a map showing the population
of each state. Using color to give #insurrectionists/population would be
better, but even this still improperly gives relative importance to the
states with large areas.
Dave named the two states that are formerly independ
Vermont was an independent country with its own currency and army, before
joining the U.S., so it might be an interesting option. A kind of counterpoint
to Texas; the other independent country that became a state.
davew
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, at 8:19 AM, glen wrote:
> https://insurrectionindex.or
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