On 1/7/22 11:14 AM, glen wrote:
Thanks for that validation. I think SteveS' conception is rooted in the US' typical puritanical approach to everything. I admit I'm ignorant of the history of HR. But my sense is that non-US regions have a richer cultural approach to handling drugs. Even China, which we often ridicule as totalitarian, has lived with opium use for a much longer time.

Here in the US, the puritans will steal any and every thing and warp it to their narrative, including HR. I think SteveS is a victim of that narrative.

I heard your conception as one of your own proverbial "Just So" stories, and recognize my own experience of *other's* conceptions (from whom I first encountered HR)  as a complementary "Just So! Oh No!" story.   Wishful/Wistful thinking vs negative Paranoiac thinking perhaps.   I feel that my own apprehension is pretty muddled in the middle.  I'm not busy worrying that drug users (legal or illegal, prescribed or self-medicating) will be harmed by that behaviour...  It is mostly outside of my concern (except when I might be consulting with someone trying to distill their own spirits).   Clearly there are lots of people who seek chemical alteration and seek a society that elaborately helps them explore that to the extreme whilst there is another (bimodal?) faction (prohibitionists/puritans) which seeks to quash all of that behaviour.   I'm muddled in the middle, enjoying having friends who are much more experimental in those domains than I ever will be while also wincing at some of the self/other harm that seems to go with (at least the) illegal substances/activities as well as wincing at all the puritanical need to decide for others what their goals in life and risk envelopes while pursuing them should be.

I am a mild victim of many narratives I suppose.

- SteveS



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