Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

That might be where the Havana syndrome is coming from. There actually are microwave-powered agents stalking these various CIA, and they need to recharge in situ from time to time, with a little sideband cooking of the biologicals in the beamline. > On Sep 23, 2021, at 5:17 AM, Marcus Daniels

Re: [FRIAM] Why you studying with them?

Nah. That's so vague as to play into whatever rhetoric you got playing on repeat. On September 22, 2021 6:12:43 PM PDT, Eric Charles wrote: >Seems relevant to some of our discussions of moral issues. -- glen ⛧ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM

[FRIAM] Why you studying with them?

Seems relevant to some of our discussions of moral issues. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRI

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Re: /refused to admit that Antifa is categorically different from the Proud Boys/ And you now have a front-row seat to all this... ? https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2021/09/1-prominent-member-of-proud-boys-shot-in-foot-after-groups-clash-in-olympia.html I have a hard t

Re: [FRIAM] hot streaks

Gawd, Roger, That science paradigm problem looks like centipedes having an orgy: http://wbpaley.com/brad/mapOfScience/index.html Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthomps

Re: [FRIAM] hot streaks

On 9/22/21 3:18 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > Nick -- > > How much of the fleet do you need to examine to make this metaphor float? > > How many scientific journals are published globally per year? No one > knows how many scientific journals there are, but several estimates > point to around 30,000

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Minor tangent: When it is thought to be time for me to do something, a conversation can often be overheard between my female deaf dog and my wife about what needs to be done. This results in the dog coming to me beg for attention, bringing me items found in the backyard, etc. It breaks up my

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Well, personally, as much as I rant about the unsoundness of evolutionary psychology, I think the is-ought dichotomy is false, one of the most egregious ways philosophy is sterile ... or at least "hygienic". So I absolutely don't hate passive-aggressive implications like those you list. Worse y

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

One of my colleagues used to say that "we" ought to spend more time with undergraduates. Since she herself was DEFINITELY not planning to spend more time with undergraduates, that really meant that she wanted ME to spend more time with undergraduates. You are technically correct, I suppose, t

Re: [FRIAM] ivermectin

I once polled the folks around the table about non-medical approved cures we were taking. Everybody was doing at least one thing that their doctor wasn’t particularly keen on. We are all fools in SOME context. Some in more contexts than others. n Nick Thompson

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

I don't have the slightest idea what you mean by "modal language", I guess. I thought you meant necessary versus possible. On 9/22/21 1:56 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > I am overjoyed to see that Hume's Guillotine is the origin of my "note the > use of modal language" thing.  -- "Bette

Re: [FRIAM] hot streaks

Roger, This is exactly why we need to think more about Abduction. Some of the ships of the fleet are bigger than others and we need to think how and why that is. There are many symptoms of measles, but one, the presence of Koplic’s spots, is worth many times more than the others. Koplic

[FRIAM] ivermectin

via hackernews https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01535-y Two studies showing positive results treating Covid-19 with Ivermectin are both junk, the numbers reported not being consistent with the experiments claimed, one has been withdrawn, the authors of the other are not responding to re

Re: [FRIAM] hot streaks

Nick -- How much of the fleet do you need to examine to make this metaphor float? How many scientific journals are published globally per year? No one knows how many scientific journals there are, but several estimates point to around 30,000, with *close to two million articles* published each ye

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

It's not puritanism, it's poverty, none of the later generations can afford a decent drug habit. -- rec -- .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://r

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Glen, I am overjoyed to see that Hume's Guillotine is the origin of my "note the use of modal language" thing. Live and Loin the Lamchop said. See, from Glen's post: The difficulty of deriving facts about how people ought to behave from facts about how the world is was most famou

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

The game vs. non-game just has to do with your values. We all have different values, or can have them, and so anything goes. Nihilism 101. I suppose I like the game of messing up the games that are imposed on me. Poker, well, that is only interesting to the extent one might invent hyperspe

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Well, that's the point, I guess. I think the reason most people say things like "not everything is a game" is because it's unclear whether the high order can be cleanly separated from the low order ... or i.e. there exist phenomena ... or i.e. when reduction works and when it fails ... or i.e. a

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Not everything is a game. Or if it is, why follow rules? That sounds a lot more fun. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:18 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence But why discourage this kind

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

But why discourage this kind of duplicity? The people I talk to who play Poker often mention that lying is what makes the game fun. "Flattening" out the game so that everyone always sees everyone's cards doesn't seem as fun. On 9/22/21 1:14 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > For example, if you have a

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Yes, I like the induction loop idea. Or if I could switch between physical realizations, a form that would allow for direct microwave delivery from outer space. Sure I might glow a little bit, but that would pass. From: Friam On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:02

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

For example, if you have a boss that says "I support you doing X", and then the boss goes to their boss and says "Glen shouldn't do X", that's is duplicity. The boss is using the fact they have access to you and to their boss in distinct circles. It makes it easy for them to lie. But by rec

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

One place such reductionism comes into play is Hume's Guillotine: https://rationallyspeaking.blogspot.com/2010/01/humes-guillotine.html Personally, this incessant attempt to dichotomize the world into 2 things tires me. Duplicity is simply an uninteresting form of multiplicity. At least even Ni

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Marcus - > > I was a user of Soylent for a while.  A problem with it is that it > uses rice flour that spoils. > I guess I didn't know there was a ?commercial? product by that name. I was of course, referencing that 70s B movie with Charlton Heston (t

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Nothing wrong with taking independent positions. Contradictory positions, or duplicitous positions used to advance politically can exposed for what they are though. Any amount of pain I can add to their lives is time well spent. Of course, the Murderous Profiteer can be a Wokeist for some def

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

As long as the objective of illustrating people taking incompatible positions is to illustrate that incompatible positions are everywhere, all the time, I'd have no objection. But my reaction to some consistency hobgoblin pointing out how incompatible my Murderous Profiteer homunculus is with my

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

I love the idea of Google Glass, but preferably covert -- pickups in my visual cortex maybe. Then rather than wasting my time trying to find something to watch on Netflix at the end of the day, I could flip through my audio/visual experiences and build my Big Book of Lies for future reference.

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Yeah, continuing the trend of trashing "the hard problem", the zombie argument never carried water for me. The duplicates argument, by contrast, carries a lot ... ala the broken Star Trek Transporter that fails to dissolve the original when it makes the copy. Can we really say the Kirk on the pl

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

I was a user of Soylent for a while. A problem with it is that it uses rice flour that spoils. What’s the point of it if you have to worry about preparation and its integrity? I want to pop in a battery my leg and be good to go! From: Friam On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Wednesday, Septembe

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

The word that comes to mind is duplicity! -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:20 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence Is it a single spectrum? I suppose the typical use of "spectrum" implies a

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Is it a single spectrum? I suppose the typical use of "spectrum" implies a singular measure. But I don't intend it that way. So, maybe I need a better phrase ... "phase space"? "milieu"? "ambient muck"? One problem with medication, including implants and AR (witness Google Glassholes), is that

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

On 9/22/21 12:00 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Steve writes: > > < Is it a single spectrum?   I propose a few components: > > 1. Self Exploration > 2. Creativity Enhancement > 3. Medicating for Social Anxiety > 4. Medicating for Depression > 5. Self Identity/Expression > 6. Avoidance > 7. .

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Steve writes: < Is it a single spectrum? I propose a few components: 1. Self Exploration 2. Creativity Enhancement 3. Medicating for Social Anxiety 4. Medicating for Depression 5. Self Identity/Expression 6. Avoidance 7. ... > Being a vegan, for example, is an inconvenience

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

> Generation X are heavy, risky drinkers. Will anything ever persuade us to > stop? > https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/22/generation-x-heavy-drinkers-will-anything-persuade-us-to-stop > > "There’s one other factor: the odiousness of comparison. Or, to put that more > simply, generati

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

That's confusing. How is cooking any different from breeding one's food or from using a gene gun to make one's corn taste more like meat? All my vegan friends go on and on about how seitan and tempeh are perfect foods because they're blank slates, the phenomena of the whole is a systemic effect

Re: [FRIAM] hot streaks

Is this an example of epiphenomena (in the sense of episystems)? On 9/22/21 9:58 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > I think it actually all makes sense in a Peircian way.  First we > thought papers meant proven work, then published papers, then peer > reviewed published papers, then peer reviewed publis

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

No argument there. No one wants to join my pro-GMO foodie club though. ☹ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:21 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence Well, nothing that relies on the ambiguiti

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Well, nothing that relies on the ambiguities of "generations" will ever be true in any reliable sense. For example, even though I'm on the Boomer side of GenX, I affiliate with Millenials way better than I do other GenXers. And my sister, who's at the beginning of GenX, affiliates with the Boome

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Is that true? I kind of stopped drinking not because of health or because of risk it could create, but just because it doesn't make me feel good. And it is kind of expensive. And for what? Sugar and caffeine, now those are more serious addictions! -Original Message- From: Friam

[FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Generation X are heavy, risky drinkers. Will anything ever persuade us to stop? https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/22/generation-x-heavy-drinkers-will-anything-persuade-us-to-stop "There’s one other factor: the odiousness of comparison. Or, to put that more simply, generation X was neve

Re: [FRIAM] hot streaks

Roger, If Peirce had been fond of metaphors, he would ask is this Motley Fleet of Science moving toward some long term outcome, or are the boats just flailing around in a totally uncoordinated manner. If the former, then from that we have our best GUESS for where the truth lies. Peirce ha

Re: [FRIAM] hot streaks

I think it actually all makes sense in a Peircian way. First we thought papers meant proven work, then published papers, then peer reviewed published papers, then peer reviewed published papers with citations, then peer reviewed published papers with citations and no dumpster fires on social meda.