Marcus - > > I was a user of Soylent for a while. A problem with it is that it > uses rice flour that spoils. > I guess I didn't know there was a ?commercial? product by that name.
I was of course, referencing that 70s B movie with Charlton Heston <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPDUpjkHg0> (the era of OmegaManHeston and PlanetO'ApesHeston) before NRAColdDeadHandsHeston and after BenHurHeston and MosesHeston. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPDUpjkHg0 > What’s the point of it if you have to worry about preparation and > its integrity? I want to pop in a battery my leg and be good to go! > Wouldn't it be even more convenient to have inductive charging loops everywhere and just stay topped off all the time (while in Eloi territory anyway)? In the meantime, tinfoil hatters would imagine you can draw directly from the power grid inductively. My great uncles were famous for tapping the power lines going by with a coil of wire on a long pole they could lay up close to the wires going over and If I were going fully post/trans human I think I'd want to grow a peacock-like photosynthetic tailfeather array to capture sunlight directly. Though I think the efficiency would have to be pretty high to support a 2000W lifestyle <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPDUpjkHg0>. At a solar flux of 1000W/m^2 that looks like a shadow-print of 1mx2m or the cross section of at typical grave? 3 m diameter peacock fan? > > > *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:21 AM > *To:* friam@redfish.com > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence > > > > > > On 9/22/21 12:00 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Steve writes: > > < Is it a single spectrum? I propose a few components: > > 1. Self Exploration > 2. Creativity Enhancement > 3. Medicating for Social Anxiety > 4. Medicating for Depression > 5. Self Identity/Expression > 6. Avoidance > 7. ... > > > > > Being a vegan, for example, is an inconvenience and one will tend > to impact a group. Not participating in the hedonism around you > will make you stick out. > > I was fairly pure vegetarian from age 14-32. I eased out of > Vegetarianism by eating meat whenever it was served and not "sharing" > my vegetarianism overtly, it was definitely making me "stick out" and > I didn't enjoy the conversations I usually had around it with both > vegetarians and non-vegetarians. I am now back to mostly vegetarian > with a lean toward veganism, based mostly on my broadening empathy > with all living things and my growing distaste for all things > mega-industrial (agri-industry, animal edition especially) and the > implications for the health of the biosphere (and maybe more acutely, > the noosphere). To most, this probably just seems like knee-jerk > bleeding-heart ned-ludd-channeling tedium. > > My peers are no longer whigged by any dietary preference/restriction I > might express (though I try to keep my dietary preferences to > myself). They don't even blink at anyone eschewing anything... > Alcohol, sugar, gluten, caffiene, meat products, animal products, > orange colored food, GMO, non-GMO, etc. For health/vitality reasons, > I have tried a number of dietary restrictions (metabolism and > inflammation related) so do occasionally have to "eat around" what is > served/offered as quietly as possible (or more likely just stick to a > green salad and water which is almost always available and almost > always fits any dietary restriction). > > I'm surprised you would have no takers on a GMO-positive food club. I > have a number of acquaintances who lean heavily into the > food-replacement (e.g Huel) and even synthetic food game. > > https://huel.com/ <https://huel.com/> > > > https://www.eater.com/2019/5/14/18623258/impossible-foods-synthetic-lab-grown-meat-science > > <https://www.eater.com/2019/5/14/18623258/impossible-foods-synthetic-lab-grown-meat-science> > > > I'm still haunted by the spectre of Soylent Green. > > I'll opt for continuing to dabble in home gardening, aquaponics, and > raising egg-laying chickens. > > > > > > *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> > <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:53 AM > *To:* friam@redfish.com <mailto:friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence > > > > > > > Generation X are heavy, risky drinkers. Will anything ever persuade > us to stop? > > > https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/22/generation-x-heavy-drinkers-will-anything-persuade-us-to-stop > > <https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/22/generation-x-heavy-drinkers-will-anything-persuade-us-to-stop> > > > > "There’s one other factor: the odiousness of comparison. Or, to put > that more simply, generation X was never that extreme, it’s just the > millennials, or generation sensible, are making us look bad. They drink less > overall, and are more likely to renounce drinking altogether. Generation Z > drink less still ..." > > At least among some subcultures, Generation B(oomer) were much > more alcohol abusing, not only in our youth (I turned 18 not long > after the drinking age was (temporarily) reduced to 18 or 19 in > many states), but in our "middle-age" (day drinkers) and into our > twilight years as high functioning (or low-demand) alcoholics. At > least you X-drinkers had craft brew to hide behind, we were > arguing over Coors vs Budweiser or lauding the praises of 40oz > Schlitz Malt Liquor (for lunch?). > > "People are so cynical: they say millennials are just taking drugs or > smoking weed instead. But that’s not the case: we’ve seen declines in all > drug use." > > > > > > If anything makes me worry about the future of society, it's this > Puritanism infecting our youngsters. Alcohol is poison. But the other drugs > are much less so. Maybe, just maybe, we'll see loosening of controls (like > marijuana, X, and psi) and that will allow DIY body modification, implants, > and such to flower. It's important to see it as a spectrum. > > Is it a single spectrum? I propose a few components: > > 1. Self Exploration > 2. Creativity Enhancement > 3. Medicating for Social Anxiety > 4. Medicating for Depression > 5. Self Identity/Expression > 6. 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