On 9/22/21 12:00 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
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> Steve writes:
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> < Is it a single spectrum?   I propose a few components:
>
>  1. Self Exploration
>  2. Creativity Enhancement
>  3. Medicating for Social Anxiety
>  4. Medicating for Depression
>  5. Self Identity/Expression
>  6. Avoidance
>  7. ...
>
> > 
>
> Being a vegan, for example, is an inconvenience and one will tend to
> impact a group.   Not participating in the hedonism around you will
> make you stick out. 
>
I was fairly pure vegetarian from age 14-32.  I eased out of
Vegetarianism by eating meat whenever it was served and not "sharing" my
vegetarianism overtly, it was definitely making me "stick out" and I
didn't enjoy the conversations I usually had around it with both
vegetarians and non-vegetarians.    I am now back to mostly vegetarian
with a lean toward veganism, based mostly on my broadening empathy with
all living things and my growing distaste for all things mega-industrial
(agri-industry, animal edition especially) and the implications for the
health of the biosphere (and maybe more acutely, the noosphere).   To
most, this probably just seems like knee-jerk bleeding-heart 
ned-ludd-channeling tedium.

My peers are no longer whigged by any dietary preference/restriction I
might express (though I try to keep my dietary preferences to myself). 
They don't even blink at anyone eschewing anything...  Alcohol, sugar,
gluten, caffiene,  meat products, animal products, orange colored food,
GMO, non-GMO, etc.   For health/vitality reasons, I have tried a number
of dietary restrictions (metabolism and inflammation related) so do
occasionally have to "eat around" what is served/offered as quietly as
possible (or more likely just stick to a green salad and water which is
almost always available and almost always fits any dietary restriction).

I'm surprised you would have no takers on a GMO-positive food club.  I
have a number of acquaintances who lean heavily into the
food-replacement (e.g Huel) and even synthetic food game.

    https://huel.com/

    
https://www.eater.com/2019/5/14/18623258/impossible-foods-synthetic-lab-grown-meat-science


I'm still haunted by the spectre of Soylent Green.

I'll opt for continuing to dabble in home gardening, aquaponics, and
raising egg-laying chickens.


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> *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:53 AM
> *To:* friam@redfish.com
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence
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>  
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>
>     Generation X are heavy, risky drinkers. Will anything ever persuade us to 
> stop?
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>     
> https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/22/generation-x-heavy-drinkers-will-anything-persuade-us-to-stop
>  
> <https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/22/generation-x-heavy-drinkers-will-anything-persuade-us-to-stop>
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>      
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>     "There’s one other factor: the odiousness of comparison. Or, to put that 
> more simply, generation X was never that extreme, it’s just the millennials, 
> or generation sensible, are making us look bad. They drink less overall, and 
> are more likely to renounce drinking altogether. Generation Z drink less 
> still ..."
>
> At least among some subcultures, Generation B(oomer) were much more
> alcohol abusing, not only in our youth (I turned 18 not long after the
> drinking age was (temporarily) reduced to 18 or 19 in many states),
> but in our "middle-age" (day drinkers) and into our twilight years as
> high functioning (or low-demand) alcoholics.  At least you X-drinkers
> had craft brew to hide behind, we were arguing over Coors vs Budweiser
> or lauding the praises of 40oz Schlitz Malt Liquor (for lunch?).   
>
>     "People are so cynical: they say millennials are just taking drugs or 
> smoking weed instead. But that’s not the case: we’ve seen declines in all 
> drug use."
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>      
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>      
>
>     If anything makes me worry about the future of society, it's this 
> Puritanism infecting our youngsters. Alcohol is poison. But the other drugs 
> are much less so. Maybe, just maybe, we'll see loosening of controls (like 
> marijuana, X, and psi) and that will allow DIY body modification, implants, 
> and such to flower. It's important to see it as a spectrum.
>
> Is it a single spectrum?   I propose a few components:
>
>  1. Self Exploration
>  2. Creativity Enhancement
>  3. Medicating for Social Anxiety
>  4. Medicating for Depression
>  5. Self Identity/Expression
>  6. Avoidance
>  7. ...
>
>  
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>      
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>      
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