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I really didn't realize there were so many viruses
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:DOS_file_viruses> for DOS, which
would all have been floppy-transmitted. Jim, I think a chat about viruses
in the DOS days would be fascinating.
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And TSR programs
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminate-and-stay-resident_program>.
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redistribute it under certain conditions as specified by the GNU GPL
license;
see the documentation for details.
Please credit this data as "generated using David A. Wheeler's
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freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> I don't imagine we have a forum, just an email list, right?
>
There are some forums listed here:
https://www.freedos.org/forums/
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to run MS-DOS
7.1.
IIRC it was never intended to be a standalone product. I'm curious what
the personal reasons are, or what 7.1 gives you that 6.22 (or FreeDOS)
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On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 12:57 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-user <
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> It's a different sort of thing, but a colleague shared his editor's
> advice to write in a way that makes it difficult to go back and edit
> what you've done, while you're writing it. The idea
recated for some time, but
> IIRC it should still work. I wonder if it can be relevant here.
>
Thanks Lukas! This didn't change the boot experience but also works. I'll
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, at least 20 were copied. Someone
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these
services did better than BBSes was the huge chat (or "CB") rooms, where
you'd be on talking with dozens/hundreds of people around the world. That
was amazing in the early/mid 80s. GEnie would have thousands of concurrent
users in the late 80s.
On a different note, Si
fine TCP/IP-wise. I think I'll add
something like "call C:\LOCAL.BAT" to :End in FDAUTO.BAT and then put my
local startup customizations there to avoid changing the dist FDAUTO.BAT
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I loved Ronald Blankendaal's Access for a free-dos only laptop (Toshiba
Satellite 430cds, 16mb RAM, sdcard via IDE adapter) - but I was using v 5.02.
Was brilliant for my young kids who could arrange their own menus for favourite
dos games. Can be text-only, but I preferred to use icons. Didn't
"Plug-In" brought me.
Available on vetusware I understand - but I have kept my original copies and
registration codes etc... how sad is that?
:)
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2022, at 12:02 AM, Martin Iturbide wrote:
> Hello
>
> I was wondering if you know some links,
Dear Karen,
there have been many instances in the past where able-bodied and
differently-enabled experts have worked together in the FreeDOS threads for a
common good. I am distressed to have witnessed the escalating discord between
two of such proponents. I too have experienced "acquired disabi
the files off the computer and send them. I havnt found a command which
copys to cd, probably need to find an application for that eventually, if
my cd drive can write. Not sure if it can.
On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 7:40 PM Eric Auer wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> > So I did the experi
, Jun 12, 2021 at 5:44 AM Eric Auer wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> So apart from the floppy cable problem, you say only
> the Win98 MBR boots correctly, but the FreeDOS one
> will not boot? You have re-formatted the partition
> in DOS (by the way, better use SYS, not FORMAT /S),
>
instead reads iso files on a usb).
Thanks for the help!
On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:02 AM Andrew wrote:
> Gotcha, thanks for the info. Its possible the mobo floppy controller is
> broken. I haven't finished troubleshooting it yet.
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:00 AM Liam Proven w
Nevermind got it working. Didnt realize setup can pass options.
On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 2:23 AM Andrew wrote:
> Hello guys,
> I havnt been able to find any documentation on how to install with
> advanced installer. How do you begin the advanced installer?
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Hello guys,
I havnt been able to find any documentation on how to install with advanced
installer. How do you begin the advanced installer?
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Gotcha, thanks for the info. Its possible the mobo floppy controller is
broken. I haven't finished troubleshooting it yet.
On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:00 AM Liam Proven wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 18:05, Andrew wrote:
> >
> > 3) I havnt worked enough in getting the floppy
DOS as boot manager if you
> think a different boot loader would work better, for example
> regarding the MBR step.
>
> And instead of doing everything by hand, just run the advanced
> mode of the installer :-) Jerome can give advice about that.
>
> Eric
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se a relevant bug causes that.
>
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Perhaps just a simple bootloader would fix the problem? I only know of
modern linux ones, perhaps systemd-boot would work from arch?
On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:01 AM ZB wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 08:40:25AM -0700, Andrew wrote:
>
> > Ive installed different operating systems on
, 2021 at 9:01 AM ZB wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 08:40:25AM -0700, Andrew wrote:
>
> > Ive installed different operating systems on the two hdds I have, over 15
> > times in total between them all. Every time DOS and 98 installs fine,
> > freedos always gives the s
will also try the FDISK /INFO command for both situations, Ill see
what it says. Im not as familiar with dos commands, so any commands I can
run to inspect the problem will be helpful.
On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 8:14 AM Eric Auer wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> > 1) Both use IDE conn
cd or floppy drive working. So I know it isnt random/ hardware
problem, like faulty hard drive. The OSes work fine.
On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 7:57 AM ZB wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 07:37:30AM -0700, Andrew wrote:
>
> > 2) The error simply says disk read error in the pentium 2.
able to compensate for the cylinder problem,
causing it not to boot? Which is why it can boot from bios to cd to hdd,
but not bios to hdd?
On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 7:18 AM Eric Auer wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I assume your 486 and your Pentium2 both use ATAPI
> CD drives and IDE hard
f
261-254-63 cant get drive parameters for drive 01. I am guessing this
is the cause of the boot error. I have also tried multiple drives, the
current one I am using is is seagate barracuda 7200 at 200gb, width ide
interface.
Thank you very much,
Andrew Ingram
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Graduate Student,
Hey Felix and co,
can I suggest an avenue such as a boot manager like Plop
https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html to get around booting into FreeDOS
from USB?
I haven't tried it this way myself, but I have used Plop in the past to boot
into Puppy Linux using native USB 1.0 in an old laptop
Sorry - lurking, but my 2c briefly:
there's a lot to be said for the self-satisfying, validating feeling of
actually physically handcrafting your thoughts for contribution to the broader
society as a whole. Whether those efforts actually makes an impact on that
society... well, does that really
I recall seeing with delight the rural mobile blood donation units here in
Queensland, Australia, using DOS exclusively on old laptops to integrate their
data entry with their servers. The phlebotomists (nurses) I spoke with up until
about 2015 swore by the reliability, security and usability of
*EDIT: USB2.0 ports via PCMCIA adapter, I mean.
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Andrew Robins wrote:
> You might like to consider using Elmar Hanlhofer's "Plop" boot manager
> https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html to assist with booting from your
> native US
You might like to consider using Elmar Hanlhofer's "Plop" boot manager
https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html to assist with booting from your
native USB1.x port. It helps with working around early BIOS versions that did
not permit /enable booting from USB as an option. (Have you checked you b
Ah - I still have my MagnaRAM diskette around somewhere - (also had RAMgate) -
loved that on my AU$400, second-hand 486DX running Win3.1, circa 1995. With
PlannetCrafters enhanced GUI software (last seen on Vetusware, IIRC), I felt
that my setup was so smooth I had no need to upgrade to Win98 et
I haven't resurrected my FreeDOS projects for a while, but some time ago
(years?!) I posted about my intent to work on a "FreeDOS 4 Kids" project,
recycling old, Pentium-era laptops.
I think I discussed the functionality of Ronald Blankendaal's (re DBGL) most
excellent dos GUI "Access" for prov
Robert I am talking out of school here, on so many levels...
Have you ever heard of EVE (Embedded Vector Editor) from Barry Kauler?
https://bkhome.org/archive/goosee/
Barry hasn't supported his gem since at least 2006, when he left the Windows
environment to work almost exclusively on his next pr
c
> > X11 server functions operated satisfactorily."
>
> That was valid around 20 years ago... :D try this with any present distro
>
Of course, you're comparing a 20-year-old distro with a 30-year-old
"distro" of DOS :-
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, at 8:21 PM, Robert Riebisch wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> > Mind - although I still have both 430CDS' in storage for uncompleted
> > project updates, I had to wave the white flag on productively using Puppy
> > for kids use, on those particular
gram that
cannot be emulated/virtualized for some reason, or (c) you are a bit
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, at 3:30 AM, dmccunney wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 11:52 PM wrote:
> >
> >... Puppy Linux is designed for older, less powerful hardware. (A poster
> on the Puppy forums described creating a dedicated media server based
> on Puppy that ran on an ancient Toshiba laptop w
Thanks FreeDOS community for such a heartening, community-minded response to
Felix's situation. It's amazing, well done team and I hope that one or multiple
satisfactory solutions can be worked out for sight-impaired users. Imagine if
the Aladdin's Cave of archived IF (interactive fiction) softw
eir own language) all by themselves...
>
sqlite (regardless of platform) also includes a CLI version which can
process SQL commands from stdin or files, but you're right that its primary
purpose is to as an embedded SQL engine, whereas dBASE and its ilk were
more app
ld this be? Am I missing something?
>
You may find it helpful to install the SEARCH program, which is available
through FDIMPLES.
Then you can type "search " and its location(s) will be listed.
It's analogous to find(1) on Unix, or perhaps more accurat
ly lead to all kinds of press about favoring different
vendors, etc.
(5) And the big one...where's the money in releasing old source code? It
takes lawyers, tech people, etc. and likely would cost a fair amount of
money just to package it up.
BTW, Microsoft has (or at least at one time had)
arious SETENVs
are essential for sane usage.
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CLUDE=d:\mateusz\devel\ow19\BINW;%INCLUDE%
All of the SET lines referenced d:\mateusz\devel\ow19. Of course, that
path doesn't exist so the file sets variables that don't work.
Shouldn't they reference c:\devel\ow, or am I misinterpreting something?
Sorry for the newbie Q
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 4:11 PM andrew fabbro wrote:
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> extracting" while trying to install things from the DEVEL tree. Strangely,
> I installed the editor Elvis just fine and it works great...but trying
ly perhaps?
On a separate note, what do I want to look at to use a larger font or more
columns/rows on my "virtual monitor"? That was part of why I tried
Virtualbox after VMware Player, besides portability to machines I don't
have VMware licensed on. The underlying physical hardware i
or responding to
confirm subscription? That seems more sense-making from a 'have
everything usable with an email client' side...
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On Mon, Feb 11, 2013, at 04:47 PM, dmccunney wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Andrew Robins
> wrote:
> > Egads - you are very right to remind me there Dennis and Rugxulo -
> > defragging is a bit of a reflex habit from my time as a disg
Egads - you are very right to remind me there Dennis and Rugxulo -
defragging is a bit of a reflex habit from my time as a disgruntled MS
user, I never consider it in my (user-level) Puppy Linux. I'll give
DOSFSCK a run, as I still query the format process on the SD-card.
Thanks too for the Chess l
Firstly - many thanks to all those offering help in this thread. It has
digressed somewhat from the OP but I hope the suggested tips will help
other 'newbs', I will certainly revisit here to refresh my memory (no
pun intended), follow links when I have more time etc. Thanks Robert
Riebisch for your
Hi Rugxulo,
many thanks for your detailed reply. As it turns out, I have been
plugging along sporadically with the SD-card FreeDOS OS integrating with
USB flash drive (games repository). I've slowly been weeding out various
games that I've downloaded holus-bolus from various "abandonware" sites,
gr
Aha - thanks Dennis for the rescue (on yet another OS thread) - I must
have included an extra space after my semi-colon in previous
experiments. Cheers and kuDOS
> The second PATH statement above will override the first, so Access
> will work, but stuff in FDOS\BIN won't. To have more than one
>
cordata2 - I stand corrected, and absolutely flabbergasted. Pleasantly
surprised indeed - troubles with a dying floppy drive had me flip a
spare usb-floppy over to the test rig, and on reboot I tried "B:" and
bang - there was my usb-floppy! (Not asking me to swap the floppy in
the infernal A drive,
Thanks cordata2 and Mark - no I've tried repeated reboots while ironing
out the kinks in my re-install, chiefly to get my autoexec.bat working
nicely, and while the BIOS detects the USB flash drive on bootup, no
letter is automatically assigned to it (although I must test the ports
at the rear). US
PS. Begging pardon - the zip file I mentioned earlier was "USB19.zip"
from Jack Ellis and, I see from Bret Johnson's USB support forum, a
colourful debate there on UIDE/USB extensionality I am too dense to
fathom. Also - usbhosts showing 2 OHCI and 1 EHCI (2.0) usb ports,
matching the BIOS. I'm tes
I'm stumped I'm afraid - how do include the requisite instructions in
fdconfig.sys (and? autoexec.bat) to have USBUHCI and USBDRIVE resident
and functional in a fresh Freedos 1.1 install?
I'm in the process of constructing small DOS games environment on a 2Gb
sd-card drive (IDE adapter). The eventu
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2) some installation workarounds for the "if you have a PCMCIA
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3) improved format /system HD / bootloader process.
That's about all the fe
I think that MSFN has some great support for Win98 - I followed it for
some time a few years back and there are quite a few dedicated
volunteers there who had included USB 2.0 drivers, perfected the various
security updates etc. Plenty of debate there as to the legality of the
unofficial upgrades,
probably outlive the laptops I have in mind
for them - but any surviving components will just be added to the next
candidate to rescue from landfill,
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On Tuesday, November 01, 2011 6:39 PM, "Jack"
wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> > I anticipate replacing
My primary interest in FreeDOS was both in sustainable computing
and "edutainment" for primary-shool age children. That is, using
classic, award-winning DOS games freely available from the Web on
ancient laptops (e.g., 48mb max RAM, pre-USB vintage) to provide
a living example of Reduce, Reuse, Rec
sted,
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> Op 16-7-2011 5:00, Andrew Robins schreef:
> > Congratulations, firstly, on getting on SourceForge's Top Projects list
> > this month. I think the accolade is long-overdue. I've final
To partly answer my own questions earlier:
1) How do I install kernell.?
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=27324018
- yup, I tried a straight over-write when the update was released, but
over the last week the filesystem gradually corrupted to a point that
CHKDSK (0.9) would
Dear Jim Hall and all contributors, FreeDOS users-
Congratulations, firstly, on getting on SourceForge's Top Projects list
this month. I think the accolade is long-overdue. I've finally signed up
here partly to thank you for your base that I have used on a Toshiba
430CDS Satellite Pro (48MB, P1, 1
trying to boot into FreeDOS. I am
rather inexperienced with FreeDOS, so more complex methods might be too
difficult for me, but any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Options 1 and 2 are with EMM386. Try replacing
> EMM386 EXE and> use the updated JEMM386 EXE from www.japheth.de - that might>
> be more compatible to your Bochs. Do also read the docs - if> you find that
> you need specific command line options to make> JEMM386 beha
Am using latest FreeDOS 1.0 version, from BASECD.iso.
1. Load FreeDOS with EMM386, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
2. Load FreeDOS with EMM386+EMS and SHARE
3. Load FreeDOS including HIMEM XMS-memory driver
4. Load FreeDOS without drivers
When I try 1 & 2 options, Turbo C++ 3.0 commandline com
Hi everyone!
Has anyone tried booting FreeDOS on an Intel Mac (like a MacBook)? Of
course I expect FreeDOS to work under virtualization software like
Virtual PC or Parallels, but I was particularly wondering about using
Boot Camp or even a boot CD to boot directly to FreeDOS.
Thanks,
Andrew
Ti 4400
* ATI Radeon X1900 Crossfire
* ATI X1900 (PCI-Express)
* ATI X1800XL (PCI-Express)
* ATI EAX1300PRO (PCI-Express)
* ATI X850 Pro (PCI-Express)
If anyone has any clue what might be going on, we'd love to hear your
thoughts. Else, we
hed to
the 1.0 release, retested everything (gah!) and we've not seen FreeDOS
crash/freeze/fail once.
Andrew
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FreeDOS, on hundreds of computers, and I have to say Free
cards do not work under FreeDOS.
Is that true? Does anyone have any guidance on getting PCI parallel
ports to work under FreeDOS?
Thanks,
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Hi Arkady,
Which would recomend we use to work on the widest array of systems...
CuteMouse 1.9.1 or 2.0a4? We don't need any fancy support (we don't need
scroll wheels, etc), we just need it to be robust... meaning, not to crash.
Would you suggest one over the other?
Thanks Arkad
ems like it might be a good thing.
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ver gotten to
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Anyone know of any laptops with Intel PCMCIA chipsets?
Andrew
Mark Bailey wrote:
> Hello, all:
>
> Has anyone successfully used any of the PCMCIA parallel port
> adapters with the provided DOS drivers under FreeDOS? I
> would like to if a
t freezes. Clearly, it's freezing when it's launching
autoexec.bat, but the it doesn't even get to the first @ECHO OFF command.
Maybe my config.sys file is weird? Any thoughts?
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Hi everyone,
Has anyone tried FreeDOS on a 64 bit machine? I don't see why it
shouldn't work, but if anyone has any 64 bit experiences with FreeDOS
I'd love to hear about it!
Thanks,
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test, it seems that:
C:\TESTDIR1\TESTDIR2\TESTDIR3\TESTDIR4\TESTDIR5\TESTDIR6\TESTDIR7\FILENAME.EXT
.. is as far as you can go, which is:
2 for drive + (7 * 9 + 1) for path + (8 + 1 + 3) for filename = 78 char. total
Is this right? Or am I missing some subtleties?
wy.us/html/executables.asp
Others that we found (besides KEYS for 4DOS) were:
gl_keys: http://www.mpoli.fi/files/software/DOS/4DOS/#G
KEY-FAKE: http://home.att.net/~short.stop/freesoft/keyb.htm
... and of course Jim's source that he mailed to the list.
Thanks a
deas for how
I might be able to go about automating sending keystrokes to a DOS program?
Thanks!
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should be doing an "a:"
to switch drives? Sorry if that's too obvious, I've been confused on
such things in the past :)
Andrew P
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Yep; 2035a does the trick. Thanks for your help! And thanks also for
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At 08:32 PM 10/19/2004 +0200, you wrote:
Hi, please try updating to a 2035 kernel, something like 2035bt or 2035cvs-
stable: http://fdos.org/kernel
e F5/F8 to bypass loading the config.sys and
autoexec.bat files. Has anybody else experienced this? Anyone have any idea
why this might be?
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