Re: [Foundation-l] roadmap for WM affiliation ; a name for self-identified affiliation

2011-07-14 Thread effe iets anders
Wow. That was a long read. Some very interesting points, I hope you will forgive me if I ignore most. I do want to stress a few things. There is a difference between the Free Content Movement, the Group of People who Use Wiki's and the Wikimedia Movement. Within the Free Content Movement, which is

Re: [Foundation-l] Living Person Task Force: Phase Two

2010-04-11 Thread effe iets anders
smaller wiki's wont perish from hard to make standards which might make sense for dewiki and enwiki. (I'm happy to see there's a SWMT-member though, but still better to involve more people I think) Best, Lodewijk 2010/4/11 effe iets anders : > yes, that is what i was afraid for

Re: [Foundation-l] Living Person Task Force: Phase Two

2010-04-11 Thread effe iets anders
yes, that is what i was afraid for already :) only enwikipedia and meta, practically... 2010/4/10 Keegan Peterzell : > > > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:37 AM, effe iets anders > wrote: >> >> ok, I pasted this in the Dutch village pump of wikipedia, because I >> dont h

Re: [Foundation-l] Living Person Task Force: Phase Two

2010-04-10 Thread effe iets anders
ok, I pasted this in the Dutch village pump of wikipedia, because I dont have currently the feeling that this is really a subject that is living with wikipedians, although they would care about it. I would like to suggest that something similar is done in other VP's, considering the huge impact th

Re: [Foundation-l] Is "Wiktionary" copyright?

2010-03-28 Thread effe iets anders
I assume you are referring to the term trademarked rather than copyrighted. I suggest you contact Mike Godwin directly with this kind of questions, he is handling those. With kind regards, Lodewijk 2010/3/29 Andrew Turvey > Is the term "Wiktionary" copyrighted? I only ask because the OpenDemoc

Re: [Foundation-l] Building up the reserves

2010-03-04 Thread effe iets anders
e have months of the year where there is little revenue but > expenses are about the same. > > Veronique > > > > Andrew Gray wrote: > > On 3 March 2010 13:35, effe iets anders > wrote: > > > >> I assume you do realize that this 12.5M is /after/ the fundrai

Re: [Foundation-l] Building up the reserves

2010-03-03 Thread effe iets anders
I assume you do realize that this 12.5M is /after/ the fundraiser, hence including the huge amount of donations that has been raised? -- eia 2010/3/2 Gregory Kohs > The recent 6-month financial report indicates at the end of 2008, > there was $6.67 million sitting in a savings account. At the e

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Thursday, February 25

2010-02-25 Thread effe iets anders
what about having (for once) office hour with one or two board members? Perhaps the community selected members? I can imagine it would be interesting to have a chat about what the board is currently doing and up to. -- Lodewijk 2010/2/25 Huib! > Thomas Dalton schreef: > > On 25 February 2010 10

Re: [Foundation-l] 10th birthday edit drive?

2010-02-08 Thread effe iets anders
I am not sure what the planning of the usability initiative is, but it would be an ideal moment to publicly launch a wysiwyg editor or something and indeed ask people to "try again" :) Wikipedia is entering it's second decade in style - come and join us, Wikipedia is now also editable by mortal hu

Re: [Foundation-l] open wikis for chapters....?

2009-12-12 Thread effe iets anders
what will be the goal of the website? Answers should depend on that. The question whether "open editing" is a good thing or not, is not an absolute question, but depends on what you want to reach etc. First get consensus on that, then find the model best suited for that. -- eia 2009/12/12 private

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of 2009 Fundraiser Survey

2009-12-10 Thread effe iets anders
I'm sorry, but at least in your e-mail you mainly make a lot of statements that I can imagine are worded in such a way that they don't really ask for a reply, and one rethorical question. So if you want information, I suggest you try to put your questions down a little more constructively and maybe

Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees

2009-12-03 Thread effe iets anders
could you perhaps point to that general WMF policy? Or do you mean you would like to see such a policy, but there is none yet? Lodewijk 2009/12/3 Milos Rancic > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > > Although I can understand that there are genuine reasons why the "anti > > org

Re: [Foundation-l] Board meeting update

2009-12-01 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Michael, thanks a lot for sharing this short overview with us. I look forward to more extensive minutes of course and hope they will be published not too long from now - especially considering the strategic process that is going on. You mentioned the nominating committee and their imput. I'm g

Re: [Foundation-l] Minors and sexual explicit stuff

2009-11-18 Thread effe iets anders
There are two possible discussions: 1) a discussion about the legal requirements - please leave this to the legal experts. I'm confident that Mike Godwin keeps an eye onto it, and if he doesn't you could solicit the advice of a legal expert, and bring that advice to him or the WMF ED/board. 2) a d

Re: [Foundation-l] Minors and sexual explicit stuff

2009-11-17 Thread effe iets anders
Even though I do agree to some extent with you, Andrew, I would like to make a remark. You correctly state that the cultural sensibilities differ over the world on this topic. However, this does not excuse for calling the sensibilities "irrational" and "lacking in substance" (inconsistent is fair

Re: [Foundation-l] Recent firing?

2009-11-02 Thread effe iets anders
2009/11/2 Thomas Dalton > > > > I'm happy arguing about this. No-one is forcing you to do so. If you > want to start another thread about the colour of the sky, go right > ahead. > > Why can't people on this list learn how to ignore threads? It is very > easy to do. You just don't click on them w

Re: [Foundation-l] How to make a puzzle globe

2009-11-01 Thread effe iets anders
is this the same as the one in the Office? 2009/11/1 William Pietri > David Gerard wrote: > > > http://www.externaute.net/la-globe-en-puzzle-de-wikipedia-en-realite-3d/1071 > > > > English-speakers may wish to consult the original source, the blog of > the globe-makers, here: > > http://www.beca

Re: [Foundation-l] Recent firing?

2009-10-31 Thread effe iets anders
I think the community should be and is being treated as a majority shareholder, even better! Office IT support is a typical thing that the community is not affected by AT ALL. So I am not surprised no announcement is being given on foundation-l about this. If any public list would be relevant, it w

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki defective translations in Korean

2009-10-11 Thread effe iets anders
do you mean poor as in "bad quality, grammar is all wrong" or as in "he tells a totally different thing, on purpose perhaps"? -- Lodewijk 2009/10/11 Woojin Kim > First, I apologize if I sent wrong email list. > > I'd like to report wrong/defective translations has been being created in > Korean

Re: [Foundation-l] "Wikipedia" localization

2009-10-04 Thread effe iets anders
Just as a sidenote, /if/ you localize, the English version of the namespaces will always redirect. For example, File:Example.ogg redirects in the dutch wikipedia to Bestand:Example.ogg . Best, Lodewijk 2009/10/4 David Gerard > 2009/10/4 Geoffrey Plourde : > > > The issue I see is that if a comp

Re: [Foundation-l] Improving foundation-l

2009-10-01 Thread effe iets anders
personally, i just gave up. This won't become a useful list any more as it once was. eia 2009/10/1 Anthony > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Improving_Foundation-l hasn't had any edits > in a couple weeks now. Have we decided this isn't such a big problem after > all? Have we given up? Just wa

Re: [Foundation-l] Consensus on Meta for suspecting every volunteer of abuse ?

2009-09-30 Thread effe iets anders
sure it would, and maybe it would be an improvement. But the mere fact that the log is there, I don't see as a problem. Also, realize that the average newbee will not even look at the contributions page... 2009/9/30 Amir E. Aharoni > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 17:22, effe iets anders

Re: [Foundation-l] Consensus on Meta for suspecting every volunteer of abuse ?

2009-09-30 Thread effe iets anders
Of course Google has this kind of logs. However, Google is just not transparant about it. eia 2009/9/30 Amir E. Aharoni > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 16:00, Teofilo wrote: > > Now go to meta.wikimedia.org (1), create a new account there and click > > on your "My contributions" link. And see what y

Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours

2009-09-28 Thread effe iets anders
on a friday? :S 2009/9/29 Thomas Dalton > 2009/9/29 effe iets anders : > > I think having the thursday meeting one or two more hours later would > work > > fine for Europe, so if that works also better for Australia... Not sure > > about the Friday one, although the n

Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours

2009-09-28 Thread effe iets anders
I think having the thursday meeting one or two more hours later would work fine for Europe, so if that works also better for Australia... Not sure about the Friday one, although the next day is weekend. 2130 UTC sounds like a good time though. 2009/9/29 Angela > > 1) Have the Friday office hours

Re: [Foundation-l] REMINDER: Wikimedia Staff office hours

2009-09-25 Thread effe iets anders
Thanks for considering Europeans too. However, isn't something like 1800/1900 UTC not more convenient? (since at 1600 UTC, especially during winter, lots of people will be at work/school?) I guess that also works better for staff, with regards to getting up early ;-) Best, Lodewijk 2009/9/25 C

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board of Trustees June 2009-

2009-09-13 Thread effe iets anders
can someone kill this thread? Thanks. 2009/9/13 Thomas Dalton > 2009/9/13 Austin Hair : > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: > >>> Wow, that's... pretty offensive, actually. > >> > >> If you are offended by statements of fact, that is your problem. > > > > I think it's fa

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board of Trustees June 2009-

2009-09-11 Thread effe iets anders
the main question should be whether it is worth it in that case. I.e., will it improve the chances of the chapter becoming successful? And I believe you are just as I am not able to make that estimate without at least some understanding of Portuguese culture. Lodewijk 2009/9/11 Thomas Dalton >

Re: [Foundation-l] Moderate this list

2009-09-11 Thread effe iets anders
I think we're talking about two groups of people and thinking here: 1) a group of people who have the principle "be bold" in their coat of arms and love to say anything that comes to mind, no matter whether that might be rude or not. 2) the people who see discussion more as a social process which i

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board of Trustees June 2009-

2009-09-10 Thread effe iets anders
Why should all Wikimedians have the same culture and ideas and way of thinking as you? Why should Wikimedians who have a culture be excluded from setting up a chapter? Besides that I think you're paraphrasing way too much. The grant request only suggested that this kind of costs are just costs tha

Re: [Foundation-l] Moderate this list

2009-09-10 Thread effe iets anders
The problem becomes more serious when several people tell me that they either unsubscribe from this list or do not dare any more to give input in discussions because of these people (not defining anybory, but more in general the group of people being harsh and posting a lot). That is currently the

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-06 Thread effe iets anders
Ok, not replying to anyone in particular, but please, can we stop this thread? If it has ever been useful, it has lost that little bit by now I guess. Thank you. -- eia 2009/9/6 David Gerard > 2009/9/6 Anthony : > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:06 AM, David Gerard wrote: > > >> Too many people att

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimania-l] Thank you!

2009-09-04 Thread effe iets anders
But could they be uploaded afterwards? (assuming the source files are still available?) Lodewijk 2009/9/4 Brion Vibber > On 9/4/09 1:01 AM, Bod Notbod wrote: > > 2. On many videos, if not most, it is impossible to see the content of > > the slides. Could videos be uploaded in higher resolution?

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimania-l] Thank you!

2009-09-04 Thread effe iets anders
re: the errors, I assume you added those to the talkpage of the files on commons? That way someone could actually see if it can be fixed :) thanks! eia 2009/9/4 Bod Notbod > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:31 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > > > - videos of all the talks > > As someone who is unlikely t

Re: [Foundation-l] Commons reaches 5 million files

2009-09-02 Thread effe iets anders
works fine here... 2009/9/2 Mathias Schindler > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hay (Husky) wrote: > > Around 11:46 UTC we reached 5 million files on Commons! Not quite sure > > which file is the 5th million, but this is one of the candidates: > > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kj%

Re: [Foundation-l] Closure of projects

2009-08-21 Thread effe iets anders
2009/8/20 Gerard Meijssen > if they vote that > I will wear a tutu at Wikimania and a consensus says that I should, one vote against! Please not... ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.or

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiktionary logo competition makes b3ta

2009-08-14 Thread effe iets anders
arg, I did not lay that connection.. thanks for doing that and imprinting it in my head (NOT)... :( 2009/8/14 > Lol, Goatse! > > - b. > > Friday, August 14, 2009, 12:08:01 PM, David Gerard wrote: > > DG> Our logo competitions have landed us such excellent trademarks as the > DG> puzzle globe, th

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-08 Thread effe iets anders
lolz 2009/8/8 Domas Mituzas > Hi! > > > And I have to assume that's primarily due to your > > efforts. > > > > Thanks Brion. Excellent work. > > Yes, thank you Brion! :) > > Domas > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Ombudsman commission

2009-07-27 Thread effe iets anders
members still willing to perform their tasks, are they able to? I hope this gets fixed very fast. Thanks, Lodewijk 2009/7/27 Christophe Henner > 2009/7/27 geni : > > 2009/7/26 effe iets anders : > >> Has this issue been resolved? I think it would be quite serious if the >

Re: [Foundation-l] Ombudsman commission

2009-07-26 Thread effe iets anders
Has this issue been resolved? I think it would be quite serious if the committee is not functioning, so would like to get some confirmation here. Thanks. Lodewijk 2009/7/18 Peter Jacobi > On dewiki there is a discussion whether the Ombudsman commission does > fulfill its mission. > > > http://d

Re: [Foundation-l] Donation Button Enhancement : Part 2

2009-07-20 Thread effe iets anders
What about changing it every hour? Then you have sufficient randomness over time, and no flashy buttons. -- eia 2009/7/21 Erik Moeller > 2009/7/20 Liam Wyatt : > > Rotating them would seem like a more viable solution than randomised - We > > don't want the situation where every new page in WP s

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Commons: Service project or not?

2009-06-16 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Huib, yes, that seems to be an accurate description of the current situation. However, what would you /want/ it to be, and /why/ ? :) Thanks, eia 2009/6/16 Huib Laurens > Hello, > > I want to start with thanking Effe iets anders, this is the most neutral > email about Commons

Re: [Foundation-l] Some reflections about the governance of Commons

2009-06-16 Thread effe iets anders
The interface is only part of the problems which were identified. Also the complicated procedures and the (sometimes considered hostile - although not even always intentional) community were part of the equation. However, I do agree that the interface is a huge problem, and fixing that would probab

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia tracks user behaviour via third party companies #2

2009-06-05 Thread effe iets anders
2009/6/5 Peter Gervai > > The stats (which have, by surprise, a dedicated domain under th hu > wikipedia domain) runs on a dedicated server, with nothing else on it. > Its sole purpose to gather and publish the stats. Basically nobody > have permission to log in the servers but me, and I since I

Re: [Foundation-l] IMPORTANT CHANGES: Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-30 Thread effe iets anders
Thanks for this compromise :) Could you put in the notes for the next time something about reconsidering the time table on an earlier moment and discussing that with the community? :P (so we won't forget) Best Lodewijk 2009/5/30 Yaroslav M. Blanter : >> Hi all, >> >> As promised on this list, the

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-28 Thread effe iets anders
2009/5/28 Ray Saintonge : > effe iets anders wrote: >> >> Which makes me wonder how a judge would rule on this btw. Because if >> the GFDL and CCBYSA are enough similar before the deadline to >> interchange, why wouldn't they be afterwards? Except for that line in

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread effe iets anders
But last year was earlier :) Not in the very middle of the vacation. Lodewijk 2009/5/27 philippe : > Ah, OK, sorry for my misunderstanding of the question. > > Indeed, we had that same discussion amongst the committee.  In the > end, the vote timing is driven by Wikimania and the need to purchase

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread effe iets anders
2009/5/27 Angela : > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:54 AM, philippe wrote: >> The reason not to have it in two weeks is that it generally takes >> longer than that to effectively translate both the policy pages and >> the candidate statements to allow as many people to participate in as >> many languag

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread effe iets anders
2009/5/27 Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) : > The point I was making is that I expect people will continue importing > and exporting as per past practice with no attention given to the > issue and few people caring. From a legal point of view that's not > optimal, but I think it's highly likely. > > Who se

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread effe iets anders
ic domain media that was already on Commons and used in the > obvious Wikipedia article / on its own Wikisource page. Maybe I > wasn't looking in the right place... but that's a month after a global > publicity blitz. > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:16 AM, effe iets anders

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread effe iets anders
Hm, that was also the information I got :) Besides that, I personally feel that one week in the middle of the vacation is somewhat short for an internet election. Is there an urgent reason not to have it for two weeks? And good luck to count and confirm the votes within two days time! :o I'd find

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread effe iets anders
as long as they convert /before/ the deadline... lodewijk 2009/5/27 Thomas Dalton : > 2009/5/27 Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) : >> Thanks for circulating this. >> >> Not to create a self-fulfilling prophecy here, but I suspect that 90% >> or more of those affected by this issue will not care or will no

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing resolution

2009-05-23 Thread effe iets anders
2009/5/23 David Gerard > 2009/5/23 Mike.lifeguard : > > > I have been keeping an eye on what content got imported on English > > Wikibooks. If there has been anything imported from offsite GFDL-only > > sources I'm not aware of it. To be honest though, that's not saying much > > - we often have c

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing resolution

2009-05-23 Thread effe iets anders
also, Dutch Wikibooks made the switch for all new content after 15 April 2007 already for the dual license CC-BY-SA / GFDL, so nothing new here for them, except that old content will finally /all/ be dual licensed :) (no more exceptions on pages with older versions). A big notice in the general si

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement: Chapter Selected Board Seats

2009-05-22 Thread effe iets anders
Hi all, Thank you for announcing this, Jan-Bart. I'm just as happy that we have reached a conclusion. There were many discussions before we came to this conclusion, and I think we have an excellent set of board members here. Michael has served on the board already for quite a while, and brings in

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update vote result

2009-05-21 Thread effe iets anders
2009/5/22 Anthony > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:12 PM, effe iets anders < > effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 2009/5/22 Anthony >> >> > >> > >> > Which way do neutral votes count on RfA? >> > >> >> 1) at which project

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update vote result

2009-05-21 Thread effe iets anders
2009/5/22 Anthony > > > Which way do neutral votes count on RfA? > 1) at which project (and please dont use enwiki abbreviations) 2) does it matter? :) eia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikim

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not censored (was Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-20 Thread effe iets anders
2009/5/18 Nathan > > > I think if there was demand for this within the editing community, it would > already exist. The problem, then, is not what to do for the editors who > might like a "safe" option but for the readers who don't have an account > and > can't set preferences or add .js widgets.

Re: [Foundation-l] Open teaching materials in the Netherlands

2009-05-19 Thread effe iets anders
2009/5/19 Ziko van Dijk > Hello, > > Maybe this is interesting for Wikimedians too, certainly for Wikibookians. > The Dutch ministry of education is going to set up "Wikiwijs", a project to > develop provide open and free school books or teaching materials to Dutch > schools. In the elections the

Re: [Foundation-l] 2007 Form 990 Now Posted

2009-05-15 Thread effe iets anders
o the specific line/lines > you are looking at so I am sure to answer the question correctly. > > Veronique > > > effe iets anders wrote: > >> Hi Veronique, >> >> thanks for posting this. In Part VI, question 82b, it is mentioned that >> 333,125

Re: [Foundation-l] Collecting or spreading information (was: Wikipedia is not the karma sutra)

2009-05-14 Thread effe iets anders
ed as example) then one should consider which is more important. It is all about priorities in the end. Not only when in conflict but also when facing limited resources. eia 2009/5/14 Thomas Dalton > 2009/5/14 effe iets anders : > > Here we have an interesting discussion topic. So what /is/

Re: [Foundation-l] Collecting or spreading information (was: Wikipedia is not the karma sutra)

2009-05-14 Thread effe iets anders
2009/5/14 Ivan Lanin > > > > * Are we the only one able to perform a certain task? Are we the single > (and > > therefore important) link in a chain from knowledge to receiver? > > No, we are not the one. The government should actually do that. But, > we are an important alternative *collector*

Re: [Foundation-l] 2007 Form 990 Now Posted

2009-05-14 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Veronique, thanks for posting this. In Part VI, question 82b, it is mentioned that 333,125 USD was donated in kind. Can you confirm that this does not include the volunteer contributions to Wikipedia? (assume not, or at least hope that it's not valued that low ;-) ) A more general question for

[Foundation-l] Collecting or spreading information (was: Wikipedia is not the karma sutra)

2009-05-14 Thread effe iets anders
Here we have an interesting discussion topic. So what /is/ the main focus of Wikimedia? Is it about collecting together free knowledge, or is it about spreading it? If it would only be about spreading, I think we have at least chosen the wrong shape, because a page full of links would then be more

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-03 Thread effe iets anders
2009/5/3 Ting Chen : > > My experience is that people outside of Wikipedia community (the pure > users or people that only heard of Wikipedia) in Germany don't > differentiate between the qualities of the language versions. I don't > think that the quality of the German Wikipedia had the impact on

Re: [Foundation-l] General Assembly and guided tour / Mitgliederversammlung und Führung (Swiss Nation al Library)

2009-01-30 Thread effe iets anders
that gives a 404 2009/1/30 Michael Bimmler > The silently stripped PDF is at (English version) > > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediach-l/attachments/20090130/8dc29ea1/attachment-0002.PDF > > Sorry about that! > > M. > > On 1/30/09, Michael Bimmler wrote: > > Begin forwarded messa

Re: [Foundation-l] Agreement between WMF and O'Reilly Media about Wikipedia: The Missing Manual on Wikipedia?

2009-01-28 Thread effe iets anders
Maybe a silly question, but nobody is stopping anyone to copy it to Wikibooks. The question is mainly, should it be deleted from Wikipedia. I agree there with Erik, that this is clearly a community decision. Why not just copy it and see where it flourishes best? Best regards, Lodewijk 2009/1/28

Re: [Foundation-l] Open Knowledge Foundation

2009-01-26 Thread effe iets anders
They have Benjamin Mako Hill in their advisory board, who is also in the WMF AB. Other then that, I see nothing familiar. Best regards, Lodewijk 2009/1/26 Lennart Guldbrandsson > Hello, > > I was recently made aware of this organization: http://www.okfn.org/ with > their blog at http://blog.o

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward-Wahl

2009-01-21 Thread effe iets anders
Please note that stewards are not an electoral college. Although it is positive if there are stewards around that have an understanding of a project in case there is something complicated going on, there is absolutely no necessity to have stewards from specific angles. It is not like stewards come

Re: [Foundation-l] How to dismantle a language committee

2009-01-10 Thread effe iets anders
I don´t think this is very fair. You can call Gerard a lot, but not really agressive... He can be very enthusiast, committed, and very sure he is right, and trying to persuade others, but agressive? Anyway, I don't think a mailinglist (especially not this one) is a good place to discuss *people* r

Re: [Foundation-l] Don't know how linked we still are with wikia...

2009-01-04 Thread effe iets anders
But was that connection close enough (even in the old days) to complain here about copyright violations there? I think Tim had a good point here :P Lodewijk 2009/1/5 Dan Rosenthal : > I don't think this is entirely accurate. For instance, there was the > annual report several months ago noting th

Re: [Foundation-l] Don't know how linked we still are with wikia...

2009-01-03 Thread effe iets anders
Please note that that part is quite outdated. As was my remark apperently btw, I understand that there have been changes since :) Anyway, ask staff :P Lodewijk 2009/1/4 Delirium : > Brock Weller wrote: >> I don't care if its up or down, i was just wondering if we're still >> connected to wikia i

Re: [Foundation-l] Don't know how linked we still are with wikia...

2009-01-03 Thread effe iets anders
As far as I am aware (but someone staff should be able to clarify more in-depth), the only connection is Jimmy who has two hats on his head (director? at Wikia and board member at WMF), and no official ties. And Wikia sponsors (still?) Wikimania of course! But no offices are shared any more. Anywa

Re: [Foundation-l] Ombudsman commission

2009-01-02 Thread effe iets anders
Hm, I always saw the ombudsman commission as a commission very different and seperate from the whole commission structure. If I recall correctly, it was mainly to fill a Real Gap, namely an option to file complaints for breach of privacy policy. I think this clearly defined mission is quite differe

Re: [Foundation-l] which is the year's subject?

2008-12-29 Thread effe iets anders
[[me]] 2008/12/30 Brian > [[Barack Obama]] > [[Induced pluripotent stem cell]] > > > Next years will be [[Large hadron collider]] > > :) > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Crazy Lover < > always_yours.fore...@yahoo.com > > wrote: > > > What subject, can be consider the year's subject? > > > >

Re: [Foundation-l] 2008 Annual Fundraiser - Going into Phas e 2

2008-12-23 Thread effe iets anders
Hm, btw, where was again that list with all incoming donations? Lodewijk 2008/12/24 Przykuta > > > > > So, Obama has won election in the USA, people are more happy (maybe not > only part of people in USA) - they want to pay for that ;) > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_altruism >

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimmy Wales donation appeal

2008-12-23 Thread effe iets anders
Up to now, I kinda liked the fundraiser. Although they are very shouty for what I'm used to (I dislike the red button for instance and the somewhat agressive tone), I think this last change in message could use a *little* step back. Please use a slightly smaller font, an slightly less shouty text.

Re: [Foundation-l] Question about status of access in mainland China

2008-12-16 Thread effe iets anders
Hi, thanks, but could you please clarify? Is it again Blocked (and is not accassible) or is it UNblocked (so you can visit it right now)? Sorry, it's a little confusing :) Thanks, Lodewijk 2008/12/16 shi zhao > BBC Chinese agian unblocked.. > > 2008/12/17 Michael Snow > > > I see that th

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board of Trustees: October 2008

2008-12-15 Thread effe iets anders
Nice page. But could you perhaps also list the non-free software used there sometime, so that the community could suggest otherwise? :) 2008/12/15 Erik Moeller > 2008/12/14 effe iets anders : > > But also have a small additional suggestion. Would it be nice to the > > chapters to

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board of Trustees: October 2008

2008-12-14 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Sue, thanks for the report. I was already looking out for it! :) I'd like to join in with Florences question. But also have a small additional suggestion. Would it be nice to the chapters to have somewhere a list of all major software WMF is using? As a suggestion list? For example, GIMP for p

Re: [Foundation-l] board minutes

2008-12-14 Thread effe iets anders
s before the > meeting and a short report about resolutions and issues discussed after > the meeting. > > Ting > > Anthony wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 5:49 AM, effe iets anders > > wrote: > > > > > >> From Sue's report, I understood that

[Foundation-l] board minutes

2008-12-14 Thread effe iets anders
>From Sue's report, I understood that the current practice is to have board minutes approved only on the next board meeting. In practice that means a delay of several months. In a quickly changing world as ours, that is quite a long time span. Would it be possible to decrease this time span someho

Re: [Foundation-l] Site notice suggestion needed.

2008-12-05 Thread effe iets anders
Making the internet not suck || Donate now. 2008/12/5 Erik Moeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2008/12/5 Gregory Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I think this is really fantastic, by the way. The "educating the > > world" has a lot of resonance for me and people that I talk with about > > Wikipedia. >

Re: [Foundation-l] Site notice suggestion needed.

2008-12-05 Thread effe iets anders
http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthly.htm More then 10 billion page views per month... (or 3900 page views per second) Lodewijk 2008/12/5 Pharos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "14 articles on famous cows" > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Famous_cattle > > That's still gotta be wa

Re: [Foundation-l] Site notice suggestion needed.

2008-12-05 Thread effe iets anders
What about the total number of edits? Does anyone know that number? And I mean for *all* language versions together. Assuming an avg 10 edits/article: 110 million edits to write 11 million articles // 6 million dollar (or the actual current needed number) to keep Wikimedia running Free Access to

Re: [Foundation-l] GFDL 1.3 Release

2008-12-02 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Erik, thanks for your update. Sorry for not waiting for the FAQ, but could you shortly mention to whom this proposal will be directed? The Board or the Community? Lodewijk 2008/12/2 Erik Moeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2008/11/3 Erik Moeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > More information will follo

Re: [Foundation-l] 80% of our projects are failing

2008-11-30 Thread effe iets anders
Please, speak for yourself :) I *do* care, and if there is an easy and definite solution, I'd love to embrace it. I think we should care about our little siblings, about the smaller languages as we call them, and support them if possible. I can only hope you were being extremely ironic :) Because

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Trouble in Ireland

2008-11-26 Thread effe iets anders
As Michael Bimmler suggested, I think too that wikien-l would be more appropriate. This is an English Wikipedia issue, not a Wikimedia issue. BR, Lodewijk 2008/11/26 Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 26 Nov 2008, at 13:27, Casey Brown wrote: > > > There's a place on enwp called the "admin

Re: [Foundation-l] European Commission Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy

2008-11-22 Thread effe iets anders
I am so glad that as soon as someone pops up with some text when asked for it, that the positive reactions are so overwhelming :) Anyway, the translation has been proofread, feel free to use etc as explained. Lodewijk 2008/11/16 effe iets anders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi all, >

Re: [Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia.org

2008-11-22 Thread effe iets anders
Now you really dont sound like a nationalist, nor do you give the impression of being non-neutral, right? I think you clearly show why no hasty decisions should be made :) Lodewijk 2008/11/22 Cetateanu Moldovanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I think we, the independent and the democratic Moldova country

Re: [Foundation-l] wikipedia.de shut down

2008-11-16 Thread effe iets anders
for the interested: *Keine weiteren juristischen Schritte gegen Wikipedia* : http://www.lutz-heilmann.info/ 2008/11/16 Magnus Manske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Bryan Tong Minh > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Apparently the German portal on wikipedia.de has been shut d

Re: [Foundation-l] List Syndication Service reboot

2008-11-16 Thread effe iets anders
who! 2008/11/16 phoebe ayers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi ya'll, > > You may remember way that back in mid-2006 user:Improv started up the > List Syndication Service: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LSS > > This was an ongoing weekly summary of the mailing lists, particularly > Foundation-L. It

Re: [Foundation-l] European Commission Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy

2008-11-16 Thread effe iets anders
It doesn't really matter what was on their mind, even though I also disagree on what is on their mind. It matters that the discussion has been broken open, and that it will be on the agenda of the commission and after that the parliament. If it is on the agenda, it is time for a little lobby and tr

Re: [Foundation-l] European Commission Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy

2008-11-16 Thread effe iets anders
nonsense. There are (small list): * Creative Commons, dozens of chapters * Wikimedia, several chapters * Free Knowledge institute * Open Office * Several Linux organisations * Actually *any* organisation that makes on a large scale freely licensed manuals etc * Open Streetmap * Several libraries (

Re: [Foundation-l] European Commission Green Paper - Copyright in the Knowledge Economy

2008-11-16 Thread effe iets anders
Hi all, Thanks for sharing this. Wikimedia Nederland is working on a reaction which has been draft-translated into English as well. We were invited by the Dutch ministry of legal affairs to give our view on this green paper, to be taken into account for the national government reaction. We have do