Hi all, Thanks for sharing this. Wikimedia Nederland is working on a reaction which has been draft-translated into English as well. We were invited by the Dutch ministry of legal affairs to give our view on this green paper, to be taken into account for the national government reaction. We have done this[1], attended an informal meeting at the ministry with other stakeholder organisations and were included in the national reaction as well.
We are still working on a reply of our own as well. It will be in Dutch, companied by an English translation. We have already invited all the other chapters to send in the translation or a translation of the translation (in French, Hungarian or Swedish etc) themselves. Even though the odds are small that the EC will actually listen to us, the consequences are of such serious nature that we should definitely do whatever we can to help this process ahead in a positive direction. You can find the draft reaction and translation of that reaction on the website of Wikimedia Nederland. The draft [2] (Dutch) has been written after the meeting at the ministry by some great Wikimedians (Thanks Elly, Esther, Fruggo, Jose, Marco, Wutsje and others :) ) and is now draft-translated into English[3]. If you can wait until thursday you can use it under one little condition: let us know what you do with it :). That is necessary for the motivation of the volunteers who worked on it, as you might understand :) We also informed other stakeholder institutions such as CC NL, Stichting Copyright en Nieuwe Media, Free Knowledge Institute and FSF-Europe. I know from the Stichting Copyright en Nieuwe Media that they have sent in a reply, and CC NL and FKI were considering. Unfortunately I heard nothing back from FSFE. Copyright is a tough thing, and sometimes, not so often, you have a chance to change it in a *positive* way. However, it is also an opportunity for Walt Disney and other copyright holder organisations to try and extend. So we all might have to step up, and do our best. I don't know how receiving the EC is towards replies from individuals, but it might definitely be good to have organisations sign this piece, and send it in! If your chapter is not working on it, approach the board, and ask them whether they want to do it, see if you can help them with this hard task. Bare in mind, the deadline is on November 30. Best regards, Lodewijk Gelauff (board member WMNL) ps: if you would have read our chapter report two months ago, you would have known this all already ;-) Join the chapter report-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/chapters-reports (no discussion there, only reports coming in monthly) [1]: http://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Groep_Groenboek/en/Consultation [2]: http://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Groep_Groenboek/Reactie [3]: http://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Groep_Groenboek/en/Reaction 2008/11/14 teun spaans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Agree. > > And perhaps other organizations working with copy left licenses could be > informed? > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Teofilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The European Commission published in July a "Green Paper - Copyright > > in the Knowledge Economy" (1) . > > > > In ยง3.4. They talk about the possibility to adapt copyright law so > > that user-created contents would become easier, and they ask to send > > them feedback by 30 November 2008 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > > > I thought it would be kind of cool if the foundation or the individual > > european chapters would use this opportunity to give them some hints > > of what a Wikipedia-friendly copyright law/directive should look like, > > or a few concrete examples of the worries we are having in present > > time with the current laws. In particular it should be stressed how > > laws in some country lacking a "fair use" restriction for pictures > > and/or without a "panorama freedom" are cumbersome. Non copyright > > issues like the ltalian law on cultural goods should also be > > mentioned. > > > > I am sending the same message on the village pump on Commons : > > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#European_Commission_Green_Paper_-_Copyright_in_the_Knowledge_Economy > > > > > > (1) > > > http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=COM:2008:0466:FIN:EN:HTML > > (English) > > > > Other languages are available here : > > > > > http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:52008DC0466:FR:NOT > > > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l