can someone kill this thread? Thanks. 2009/9/13 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dal...@gmail.com>
> 2009/9/13 Austin Hair <adh...@gmail.com>: > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dal...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> Wow, that's... pretty offensive, actually. > >> > >> If you are offended by statements of fact, that is your problem. > > > > I think it's fairly clear that I dispute the factualness of your > statement. > > You take offence when people say something you deem to be mistaken? Or > are you suggesting I knew what I said was untrue and said it to be > intentionally malicious? > > >> Last time I checked, being a non-profit (and a charity if possible) > >> *was* a requirement to be a Wikimedia chapter. The WMF does have > >> experience of running a charity. > > > > I don't know when it was that you checked, because this has never been > > a requirement. In countries where there's some analog to what > > Americans and Brits would call a non-profit, that's generally the > > desired form, but different countries have different legal systems—WMF > > Inc., for instance, is not a "charity" in the American sense of the > > word—and we do now have chapters which are neither. > > I've looked it up, and I stand corrected - non-profit status is on the > "guideline" page, not the "requirements" page. I knew I had seen it > there somewhere. > > > That's not even the point, however. WMF Inc. does not have experience > > running a non-profit in, say, Brunei. I couldn't tell you the > > exchange rate in Brunei, much less what it costs to organize an event > > there. It's preposterous to assume that we can step in and throw > > highly paid western consultants at a situation, with the poor, > > incompetent Bruneians bowing to our superior wisdom and experience. > > If the WMF doesn't know what is appropriate and the local chapter > people can be trusted to know what is appropriate (in some cases the > local chapter may have the necessary experience and the WMF can defer > to their expertise, but that isn't always the case), then the WMF > needs to do the necessary research. They are responsible for what > money that people have given them is spent on, so it falls to them to > find out what spending is and isn't appropriate. > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l