Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki Travel Guide

Hoi, Consider the number of links that are possible from a travel experience to an encyclopaedic experience .. !! Travelling has always been considered educational. Thanks, Gerard On 9 April 2012 18:39, Pharos wrote: > I think I would consider it educational. Travel itself is an > educatio

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

Hoi, The WikiData project is at first very much technical. Software is developed and as the software gains a certain level of maturity, a community will start to grow. This community will slowly but surely become integrated with other Wikimedia projects. At this stage all eyes are on Wikipedia but

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

Hoi, Commons as a project provides a service to any and all projects. It does have its own community but as Commons is a shared resource it is similar but not the same in its autonomy. This should be obvious . Thanks, Gerard On 13 March 2012 08:23, Ray Saintonge wrote: > On 03/09/12 9:39 PM,

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

Hoi, In the Netherlands we have our own bible belt.. it is not exclusive to the USA Thanks, Gerard On 12 March 2012 16:43, Nathan wrote: > The "bible belt" phrase that some people throw around in this discussion is > just a stand-in for anti-Americanism and a sign of profound ignorance. It's

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

at that? Thanks, Gerard On 12 March 2012 15:25, David Gerard wrote: > On 12 March 2012 13:55, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > > When you consider that the current proposal is for a system where it > takes > > one click to see something anyway, I do think the notion that s

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

Hoi, When you consider that the current proposal is for a system where it takes one click to see something anyway, I do think the notion that something is not knowable is over the top. Thanks, Gerard On 12 March 2012 14:07, David Gerard wrote: > On 12 March 2012 12:28, Richard Symonds > wr

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is Arbcom is actively promoting Wikipedia Review?

Hoi, This would in my opinion be more appropriate on the Wikipedia-l. This list is for foundation related subjects. Thanks, GerardM On 11 March 2012 12:19, Robert Alvarez wrote: > Can anyone explain why Arbcom members are not required to refrain from > posting and responding to requests on W

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter

:01, Tobias Oelgarte wrote: > Am 09.03.2012 15:50, schrieb Thomas Morton: > > On 9 March 2012 14:47, Tobias > Oelgarte >> >wrote: >> >> Am 09.03.2012 15:34, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: >>> >>> The question you have to ask yourself, where is the va

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter

Hoi, With all due respect, there are plenty of images that do not particularly add to the sum of all wisdom. There are plenty of images in that category that do not add anything at all to what is already there. Commons has as its motto: "a database of 12,349,098

Re: [Foundation-l] EFE: Indigenous languages entering Wikipedia

out the alphabet to be used solved. We have increased > the growth rate of the project in the past months but it is still slow. > Gerard, is there any "goal" of how many articles should we reach to apply > for the LangCom? > > > [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BB

Re: [Foundation-l] EFE: Indigenous languages entering Wikipedia

Hoi, This sounds like a great initiative. I am sure that the language committee will aim to help you as much as possible. The language policy is designed to ensure that new projects have an optimal chance of success. There are a few things that we require from you. They are that you localise the m

Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

Hoi, MediaWiki supports an input method for German in the Narayam extension. There is no "need" for alt key codes typing German... This was possibly created by Erik in anticipation of this need. Then again, it may be easier to refer to him as Erik. When this is not precise enough you could add the

Re: [Foundation-l] New project: WikiMake - library of free 3D models?

Hoi, When you consider a new project, it is important to consider how it will fit in. Just being able to have 3d images makes sense when people can view them. Making them only available does not strike me as that interesting. Working on such models is probably more interesting. The question then be

Re: [Foundation-l] iBooks vs. wBooks?

we threw together on lots of devices (almost all non-Apple) with no > problems. We've even turned some of them into interactive web pages. > > I haven't heard of this software breaking the current standard so much as > further enabling HTML5 within it - but I could be wr

Re: [Foundation-l] iBooks vs. wBooks?

Hoi, I think we should not support Apple in breaking the standard and in preventing us from using our work anywhere else. We take pride in being freely licensed and there is no excuse for the walled garden approach taken by Apple. There is also no excuse for us endorsing this behaviour. Obviously

Re: [Foundation-l] Adding a comment section under every Wikipedia article

Hoi, A comment section under every Wikipedia article seems to be a very bad idea. You read a Wikipedia article to learn about the subject at hand, you can read comments on the talk page. Reading the talk page only makes sense when you are interested in learning more about what people have to say ab

Re: [Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific

Hoi, I felt inspired to write this ... http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/01/wikilivres.html Thanks, Gerard On 13 January 2012 16:32, Yann Forget wrote: > Hello, > > 2012/1/9 John Vandenberg : > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 5:22 AM, David Gerard wrote: > >> On 8 January 2012 18:19, James

Re: [Foundation-l] Duolingo, potential way of getting good quality translations?

Hoi, It is nice but it is from English to Spanish and seriously, we support 280+ languages so it is interesting but not that relevant. Thanks, Gerard On 16 January 2012 02:19, Liam Wyatt wrote: > Hi all, > I just found this today, from New Scientist: "learn a language, translate > the web" >

Re: [Foundation-l] Still wikipediocentric

Hoi, It was a bad plan to create a Wikipedia in all these languages. It is made worse by not creating wikis that have an equivalent on any of the "other" WMF projects. When you think that the other projects are treated fairly, please reconsider. What is clear is that what I used to call the "other"

Re: [Foundation-l] Missing wikis now redirect to Incubator

Hoi, Tim, how hard is it to create a missing DNS entry for a language code that is "eligible" under the language policy? Thanks, Gerard On 23 December 2011 01:24, Tim Starling wrote: > On 23/12/11 09:44, Milos Rancic wrote: > > This is great news! In the sense of software implementation, w

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filtering without undermining the category system

Hoi, The category system is as far as I am concerned of little interest. It is as far as I am concerned not helpful for Selecting one from a bunch. It is a sick dog and it is in misery. Thanks, GerardM On 14 October 2011 01:14, WereSpielChequers wrote: >> >> -- >>

Re: [Foundation-l] TVTropes policies: No such thing as notability.

Hoi, The term lumper and splitter are used for ages in the world of nomenclature. Really it is more expressive and less officious. Thanks, Gerard On 17 November 2011 01:03, geni wrote: > On 16 November 2011 18:35, Kim Bruning wrote: > > > > Sometimes it's interesting to read policy from

Re: [Foundation-l] MENA Education Program?

Hoi, For reasons that are not in line with the policies of the language committee, the board has refused to allow new projects in any of the Arabic languages. The Language policy allows for this; the WMF board will decide if it will allow a new project when there are issues, any issues. The insiste

Re: [Foundation-l] Who *doesn't* suffer from adminitis these days?

Hoi, Apparently I do not suffer because as an admin I should know what RFC/U or WP:WQA or RFA is. Or is it only when I meet people who know their acronyms that I suffer ? Thanks, GerardM On 7 November 2011 13:48, Fae wrote: > Does anyone feel that the Wikiquette is too weak to enforce the >

Re: [Foundation-l] the choice of what is going to be developed is very much a management issue;

Hoi, I totally agree that Commons needs tagging and that such tagging will do much more to help people find the illustrations they are looking for then the current category and whatever system. WereSpielCheckers we agree on this. Now let us concentrate on things where we can win. When Commons has

Re: [Foundation-l] the choice of what is going to be developed is very much a management issue;

ate: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:05:37 +0100 > > From: Gerard Meijssen > > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove > > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > > > > Message-ID: > > w1xu...@mail.gmail.com > > > > &g

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

rardM On 30 October 2011 12:17, WereSpielChequers wrote: > > -- > > > > Message: 8 > > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 21:40:37 +0200 > > From: Gerard Meijssen > > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove > > T

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

Hoi, I am happy to make a distinction of what I do officially and what I say because I am personally of a particular opinion. This is very much my personal opinion. There have been LOADS of opportunities where the community is asked, begged to be involved in what will be the way forward. The most

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

Hoi, Given that the English Wikipedia has a problem, its page views is going down for instance, there is a well documented division between the oldies and the newbies. There is a natural attrition as well as open conflict resulting in their being not as many editors as there used to be. Wikilove,

Re: [Foundation-l] Dead Sea Scrolls

Hoi, I am here in Los Angeles with Amir. We have discussed the dead sea scrolls extensively. We discussed transcription, fonts appropriate for such old texts. The use of the text. Do you believe that the suggestion for transcription was made by someone from the museum at Wikimania? That Amit is WM

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

language preferences and location are anything but a > surefire predictor of language preference. > > > 2011/9/28 Gerard Meijssen > > > Hoi, > > Easy.. we recognise where someone is coming from ... check the browser > > language and dependend on all this we ser

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

an > unsatisfactory solution for what is supposed to be an international > project. > > > 2011/9/28 Gerard Meijssen > > > Hoi, > > The main page at translatewiki.net is not less complicated imho. > However, > > it > > has been localised and we k

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

Hoi, The main page at translatewiki.net is not less complicated imho. However, it has been localised and we know quite precisely what the state of the translations is. We can pinpoint precisely what needs doing. Thanks, GerardM 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Te

[Foundation-l] Happy Rosh Hashanah and happy Dussehra

Hoi, Today it is both Rosh Hashanah and the start of Dussehra. It is also the first time that the Wikimedia Localisation team is coming together. We are still waiting for Santhosh his flight has been delayed... We will be planning what to do, when to do it and how we can get the most out of the wor

Re: [Foundation-l] [Langcom-l] Ancient Greek reconstructed an analysis of a proposal for a new Wikipedia

Hoi, The language policy does not allow for Wikipedia in extinct languages. However, a Wikisource for the old Greek languages does make sense. When such a Wikisource would be created, the user interface would by default not be in modern Greek because more people study old Greek outside Greece then

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

Hoi, With the strategic plan it is clear and obvious that the WMF intends to expand. It is clear that India and Brazil get serious attention. With the creation of the "localisation team" there is now substantial attention for language issues and language technology. This will make the technologica

Re: [Foundation-l] Rename proposal of Kurdish wikipedia

Hoi, The argument for or against using ku.wikipedia.org are interesting but at this time rather irrelevant.There is a long list of pending name changes waiting to happen. Also we are quite happy to keep codes that are in fact representing macro languages like ar or Arabic. Thanks, GerardM 20

Re: [Foundation-l] help openstreetmap to translate their license ...

Hoi, Much of OpenStreetMap is localised at translatewiki.net ... A license can be translated as well. Given that OSM is already done at twn, it is just another addition. Thanks, GerardM On 22 August 2011 00:30, rupert THURNER wrote: > hi, > > openstreetmap tries to switch to a new license:

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

Hoi, There is nothing wrong with the term incubating; it indicates forcefully that we want full projects in those languages. A test wiki is even more ambiguous because we have things like test.wikis for new software. Having a landing page with texts in languages that are likely to be understood is

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

Hoi, There is fundraising together and there is fundraising perse. What is at issue is that chapters are and have always been expected to disclose their activities, providing financial statements. They are expected to be accountable and many chapters have largely not been accountable. The conseque

Re: [Foundation-l] Note about Huib and LangCom

Hoi. The committee is doing its things. Working on archiving is peripheral to our work and consequently the answer to your question is the committee working has an unreserved YES. Thanks, GerardM 2011/8/10 Lucas Teles > > > I'm afraid you didn't get my questions. Sorry if I wasn't clear en

Re: [Foundation-l] Note about Huib and LangCom

Hoi, Because nobody else is interested in doing this. He is a full member of the language committee he does import data from Incubator into new projects. It is known that he has been framed multiple times and it is proven conclusively for the last time when this was attempted For more information:

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

Hoi, So you understand what a macro language is. Why the kicking then ? Thanks, GerardM On 12 July 2011 10:59, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 08:03, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Macro languages are nicely defined. They are languages that used to be > >

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

Hoi, Macro languages are nicely defined. They are languages that used to be recognised at one time as a single language but are found to be a combination of multiple languages. Kicking the idea of macro-languages is daft; it is not only a result of the work of SIL it is more the consequence of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

Hoi, If you do not trust the person involved, you are crazy to send him a copy of your passport. This is a common sense. This policy as it obviously works.. what is really your issue ? Do we really need a theoretical approach that only can bring us less functionality ? I do not think so. Thanks,

Re: [Foundation-l] It Is not Us

2011 13:27, Peter Coombe wrote: > On 28 June 2011 08:35, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > Hoi, > > I have read the replies that are against social networking functionality. > In > > my opinion you are all missing the point. Our projects are crowd sourced > > projects and w

Re: [Foundation-l] It Is not Us

Facebook, a Twitter or an IRC. It will have the parts that we need and it will support our activities. Thanks, GerardM http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2011/06/in-defence-of-social-networks.html On 27 June 2011 18:24, Nathan wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Gerard Meijs

Re: [Foundation-l] It Is not Us

Hoi. Wikipedia should be more like a social network. It provides us with the opportunity to reach out to people when we want to crowd source some activity. We have a problem in retaining people particular newbies. When we show a social side to our work on open content (not only encyclopaedic conten

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 87, Issue 78

Hoi, Hear, hear !! Thanks, GerardM On 25 June 2011 07:29, Mike Godwin wrote: > Sue Gardner writes: > > > > Would inviting Matt to join create perception problems? > > Probably not among external stakeholders because donors serving on > > boards is fairly normal in non-profit land, but yes a

Re: [Foundation-l] Global ban - poetlister?

Hoi, Studies are expensive, often a time waster. They provide some kind of legitimacy and is asked for when you do not really want to accept a verdict from someone else. The board has a function and it CAN make decisions. The issue here is that exceptionally there are people who are poisonous and t

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] CTO Leaving Wikimedia Foundation end of July

Hoi, This is a sad day. Thanks, Gerard On 2 June 2011 18:23, Danese Cooper wrote: > Hello, > It is with considerable regret that I inform you of my planned departure > from the Wikimedia Foundation at the end of July. I’ve really enjoyed my > time here, and I’m proud of what Wikimedia Engi

Re: [Foundation-l] Request: WMF commitment as a long term cultural archive?

Hoi, It is the explicit goal of the Wikimedia Foundation to make information available for as long as it exist. In addition to this, there are several copies at the Internet Archive. If there is no statement that satisfies your need, it will not be hard for the WMF board to come up with one. Havin

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

Hoi, Having projects that rely on volunteers does not mean that what they do is without consequence. The policy of the language committee insists on requirements. They have to be met. One of the things we consider is the involvement of native speakers ... In the language committee we are volunteers

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native...

Hoi, Please read about the Chinese language and writing system. It helps you to understand. Thanks, GerardM On 22 May 2011 18:42, wrote: > In a message dated 5/22/2011 4:38:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > smole...@eunet.rs writes: > > > > Aren't these languages written with Chinese charact

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

Hoi, Agreed. Thanks, GerardM On 22 May 2011 10:38, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > 2011/5/22 Ryan Lomonaco : > > That said, to me, I don't see any stalking whatsoever. It is common when > > investigating sockpuppets to send evidence privately to other trusted > users, > > so that the (suspected)

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

Hoi, Leave off. Foundation-l is a place where relevant subjects can be raised. It is a place that has a bad reputation among some because of the aggressive tone. When Dror complains about stalking, it is a valid point of concern. It is the reason why some people I admire left our community. When y

[Foundation-l] The UploadWizard is now the default interface for uploading images.

Hoi, When you are uploading pictures the UploadWizard will provide the new default interface. It has a much more intuitive interface and, you can upload 10 pictures at a time. Enjoy !! It is in my opinion a big step forward. Thanks, GerardM ___ fo

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

Hoi, The wp.org is probably for sale ... It makes more sense to acquire that domain. Thanks, GerardM On 8 May 2011 15:18, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: > Back to the issue at hand though: Thomas is (quite generously) > offering the enwp.org domain. Would the foundation like to have it? > > On Mo

Re: [Foundation-l] Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia, nothing useful to Wikipedia

Hoi, Thanks John !! Gerard On 25 April 2011 23:53, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Hoi, > > Mike is a well know activist who promotes Open Source and Wikipedia in > > Albania and Kosovo. People do know him and will

Re: [Foundation-l] Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia, nothing useful to Wikipedia

Hoi, Mike is a well know activist who promotes Open Source and Wikipedia in Albania and Kosovo. People do know him and will find the information he provides. Thanks, GerardM On 25 April 2011 22:55, Fred Bauder wrote: > > Hi there, > > look guys someone deleted my pages promoting our work i

Re: [Foundation-l] Baidu Baike & Wikipedia 百度百科與維基百科 (英文)

Hoi, The best thing regarding the Chinese Wikipedia is that the last few months the traffic has been growing astoundingly. This to an extend where in traffic Chinese is now the tenth wikipedia in traffic. In the end it is not about Baidu, it is about bringing great NPOV information to the Chinese.

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [cultural-partners] Aggregator

Hoi, I am so bold and forward this message about our blog aggregator in Spanish... It does need attention but I have no clue who to approach.. Thanks, GerardM -- Forwarded message -- From: Leigh Thelmadatter I left a message on meta, but Ive gotten no response so far. Th

Re: [Foundation-l] Marjon Bakker working for Wikimedia Nederland

Hoi, Marion has not only been involved as a board member and the secretary of the Dutch chapter, she has also been really successful working for Kennisnet where she supported many educational projects that struggled to fit MediaWiki in their plans. In addition to that she has worked for several com

[Foundation-l] Toolserver has its Internationalisation

Hoi, I am really happy to announce that the first Toolserver tools can now be localised at translatewiki.net. Thanks to the hard work of Krinkle the first tools make use of the "Intuition" messaging framework. People who know Toolserver, will know that there are many useful tools that help understa

Re: [Foundation-l] LiquidThreads redesign?

Hoi, You do not ask a serious question on a day like today.. Thanks, GerardM On 1 April 2011 17:29, shi zhao wrote: > see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads#Status > > "The original LiquidThreads code has been substantially improved and > augmented by Andrew Garrett at th

Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: "Less writers on wikipedia due to agression" (dutch)

Hoi, They are national radio and television. They are particularly influential with the young. Thanks, GerardM On 30 March 2011 22:26, Austin Hair wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Kim Bruning > wrote: > > See > > > http://www.bnr.nl/programma/bnrdigitaal/2011/03/30/minder-schrij

Re: [Foundation-l] Editors survey and gender

Hoi, I have asked women from different communities about this, I have asked men from different communities about this. For some languages the compromise is not one of selecting either but using unnatural language. For some languages women indicate that not being addressed properly makes them less i

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects

Hoi, The eo.ws is in the process of being created and sadly things do not progress as hoped for. In the mean time a bug for the creation of the Greek Wikinews has been added and we are in the process of approval for a new Wikipedia. As to Wikisource being a good start for a small language. I do no

Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 elections - low turnout

Hoi, Then it is both off topic and balderdash. Thanks, GerardM On 21 March 2011 20:42, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 21 March 2011 19:27, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > Hoi, > > The statements I reply to are balderdash. The board is relevant and the > > influence board

Re: [Foundation-l] wiki for interwiki (was: Foundation too passive)

Hoi, One technical resource lacking is time. The 1.17 code is not stable enough for a full release. There is a lot of code that wants to go into 1.18 and until new releases are going to appear regularly a lot of stuff will continue to wait for it to happen. At this moment the feet of the developers

Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 elections - low turnout

On 21 March 2011 15:26, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > I could not disagree more. > > Can you elaborate? There isn't much point saying you disagree if you > don't say what you think the truth actually is. > > ___ > fou

Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 elections - low turnout

Hoi, I could not disagree more. Thanks, GerardM On 21 March 2011 15:21, brock.wel...@gmail.com wrote: > It's a chicken and egg thing. The elections arent important so they dont > know about the candidates and they dont know about the candidates because > the elections not important. > -Brock

Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 elections - low turnout

Hoi, When you look at the people who put themselves forward and stood in the elections for the board of the Wikimedia Foundation in the past, those that were chosen had a great resume of activities and known points of view before they stood. Many of these people are known, well known, As our total

Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 Board Elections: Input needed

Hoi, How about the 622 people registered as MediaWiki localisers. They make the experience of the different language versions as good as it is. Thanks, GerardM http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_translators On 20 March 2011 17:32, Stephen Bain wrote: > 2011/3/21 Aryeh Gregor

Re: [Foundation-l] Global banners usage

Hoi, The lack of options to vote for makes it a biased attempt at strong arming into a specific directions. In my opinion as it is flawed it is hardly relevant. Thanks, GerardM On 14 March 2011 07:21, MZMcBride wrote: > Liam Wyatt wrote: > > I presume you are raising this point now in beca

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

. Blanter wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:26:04 +0100, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Hoi, > > Who is going to reach out and ask for some photos that are giving to us > > under a free license. Moaning does not help. > > Thanks, > >GerardM > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

Hoi, Who is going to reach out and ask for some photos that are giving to us under a free license. Moaning does not help. Thanks, GerardM On 13 March 2011 18:23, Hans A. Rosbach wrote: > On 13 March 2011 15:30, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > > On 13 March 2011 12:06, Marcus Buck wrote: > > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor Survey, 2011

Hoi, Amir wrote a text that I posted on my blog. He wants proper tooling on Meta to do the translation of the survey. Personally I will not translate at Meta because I find it horribly inefficient. My question to Mani is, can you PLEASE take up the suggestion of using the existing and available to

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

Hoi, So far the balance has been seriously wrong. Because of the underinvestment many of our Wikipedias are not doing as well as they should. There are for instance technical solutions to give many of the Indian language Wikipedias the traffic back they lost. As this is not considered as a problem

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF 2015 strategic plan and multilingualism

:48, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > > The notion that everyone working on Wikipedia and MediaWiki is a > volunteer > > is a fallacy. > > The one thing I have been advocating is that the different languages and > > scripts are performing technically on a level playing field. Thi

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF 2015 strategic plan and multilingualism

Hoi, The notion that everyone working on Wikipedia and MediaWiki is a volunteer is a fallacy. The one thing I have been advocating is that the different languages and scripts are performing technically on a level playing field. This is not the case and there is a lot that can be achieved with mode

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

Hoi, As far as I am concerned, there are so many things we could do if we had the capacity that would still only be about enabling our communities to write their Wikipedia in their language. There are development projects that will not benefit all our projects. We are still at a stage where there

[Foundation-l] The Narayam extension

Hoi, I am really happy to announce that the Narayam extension is installed and running at translatewiki.net. Currently it provides input methods for the Malayalam and Bangla languages. It has been enabled so that Narayam can be tested both for its functionality and for these input methods. We expec

Re: [Foundation-l] innovation campaigns

Hoi, Innovation happens often under the radar screen. At translatewiki.net we frequently have people request features that are necessary to properly express the user interface in their language. This steady trickle make MediaWiki one of the best applications when it comes to Internationalisation, t

Re: [Foundation-l] An agenda for the meeting of the language committee

Hoi, You are correct :) Thanks, GerardM On 24 February 2011 00:50, Casey Brown wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 06:55, Bishakha Datta > wrote: > >> One thought occurred to me: there is no representation of Asian > languages in > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

but I guess my email is only leading to different side tracks. > > Best regards, > > Lodewijk > > 2011/2/23 Gerard Meijssen > > Hoi, >> If a copyright holder makes something available under a particular >> license, >> it is made available in a particular way

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

Hoi, If a copyright holder makes something available under a particular license, it is made available in a particular way. Yes you can for instance print or do whatever with what is provided, but you cannot claim the same right on the same object in a higher resolution. A license is given for what

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we even know if there is a Gender Gap

Hoi, There are no benefits to indicate gender for the English language at the moment. There is for Russian and the consequence is obvious. There is no reason to believe that there is any other reason for there being more women in the ru.wp then there being a benefit. Thanks, GerardM On 21 Fe

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

Hello, Please get real. The translation of such licenses is WORK and much of this WORK is done by volunteers. Even when it is not done by volunteers it costs time. There is one suggestion I can give you. Give abundantly of your money to Creative Commons so that they are able to address your concer

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

think MediaWiki doesn't fulfill the > condition, they had to use another wiki engine I am afraid. > > Greetings > Ting > > On 16.02.2011 19:49, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > Hoi, > > Given that Unites States government agencies do use MediaWiki, it is > quite a > >

[Foundation-l] An agenda for the meeting of the language committee

Hoi, In Berlin, in parallel to the MediaWiki hackathon, members of the language committeeof the Wikimedia Foundation will meet for a first time in real life. As I read the roster of the peo

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

Hoi, Communication is why I am absolutely happy when I find someone from the staff doing his or her thing on meta or foundation-l. When you compare that to the separation between the professionals and the community that is the result of the many private ways of communicating. Why for instance is t

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

Hoi, Eh? When Wikipedia is to comply with this, technically it will be in MediaWiki where such compliance is realised. Also MediaWiki is a Wikimedia Foundation project in its own right. Many people who read this list, including me, find this a subject that is absolutely on topic. Even stronger, I

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

aims well when we achieve highly in this respect. Thanks, GerardM On 16 February 2011 19:43, Nathan wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Hoi, > > What IS a VPAT for 508 in the first place ? > > Thanks, > > Gerard >

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

Hoi, What IS a VPAT for 508 in the first place ? Thanks, Gerard On 16 February 2011 18:16, McGuire, Jill wrote: > Does Wikimedia have a VPAT for 508 compliance? > > Thanks, > > Jill McGuire > > USOPM/HRS/LTMS/HRMS/TOOLSTECH/QA - Macon, GA | 478.744.2374 | > jill.mcgu...@opm.gov

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiRoll

Hoi, Would it be possible to add other Wikipedia languages... I would not only welcome Dutch :) Thanks, GerardM On 15 February 2011 14:15, Andrea Zanni wrote: > This is really interesting. > Do tyou think is it possible to have similar stats also for sister projects > (eg. quote, source, c

[Foundation-l] Hindi has three genders that I know of

Hoi, So far I knew that the Slavic languages need support to properly address women. I just learned that the Indic languages also differentiate between a male and a female user (inlike English). To top it off, Hindi has a form for inanimate objects. I do not think that we need to go as far and loca

Re: [Foundation-l] Showing the difference between the sexes

Hoi, Yes. This software is part of [[gender]] support in MediaWiki. It does not stand on its own. Gender support is necessary for many languages if you are willing to do the proper thing and address women as its grammars require. The only reason why most software does not support this feature is be

Re: [Foundation-l] Survey Wikipedia

Hoi, Could you share with us what university or school you are studying ? Thanks, GerardM On 13 February 2011 16:44, Jeroen Kleijn wrote: > Hello, > > You are being invited to complete an online questionnaire concerning > your attitudes and ideology related to Wikipedia. > > This survey is

Re: [Foundation-l] Showing the difference between the sexes

Hoi, I find it funny that this is so far a male only conversation The development of this bit of software was not undertaken for Dutch or German. It is of particular value to those languages where women are addressed differently in any sentence. It is a missing part of the work that has been don

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