want to really underline this point. If it's MediaWiki related, it
belongs on mediawiki.org. Moving things elsewhere fragments
discussion and planning.
I'm also lazy and don't want to look at other wikis ;-)
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDT4s6yLwvg
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> :D
>
> This was hilarious.
>
Obligatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFxWhzJWJ4U
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seems fairly drastic. However, because this may be a common
> misconception, clarification should be made *somewhere*.
>
A blog post on the subject was posted back in early December.
http://blog.wikimedia.org/blog/2010/12/09/what’s-in-a-name-in-the-case-of-‘wiki’-lots
0th anniversary. One of my favorite early edits:
"This is the new WikiPedia! The idea here is to write a complete
encyclopedia from scratch, without peer review process, etc.
Some people think that this may be a hopeless endeavor, that
the result will necessarily suck. We aren&#x
alled a troll."
I'm also pretty sure I'm speaking for a not-insignificant number of
people who are subscribed but who rarely (if ever) post.
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On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Chad wrote:
> MartinBot is missing, but it's was a clone of VoABot III, not sure how
> you want to list that.
>
> There was another anti-vandal bot I remember someone running back
> in '05 or so when I joined, but I can't remember th
.
>
MartinBot is missing, but it's was a clone of VoABot III, not sure how
you want to list that.
There was another anti-vandal bot I remember someone running back
in '05 or so when I joined, but I can't remember the name of it to save
my life.
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Viagra sit in the sidebar all year long :)
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priced VPS. I'm talking in the $100/mo range, or less, even.
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old user_options column and into the user_props table, it makes it a w
hole lot easier to measure these things.
So we can do things like change defaults.
Or even better, remove crappy preferences that most nobody uses \o/
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> I would think the people who think this list is useless have already
> unsubscribed.
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I'm still here. I stay subscribed for the lulz.
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>> announcement on Foundation-l earlier).
>
> For Christ's sake, another channel?
>
Of course! It was pointed out earlier today that we probably
need #wikimedia-irc-channels to coordinate the creation of
new channels ;-)
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absolutely *nothing* to the vast majority of people out there.
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> 10% pointless digressions
> 10% snarky comments
> 10% trolling
Only 10% for trolling and pointless digressions?
Sir, you give this list far too much credit.
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On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:02 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> On 4 October 2010 13:54, Chad wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Mariano Cecowski
>> wrote:
>
>>> Would it be possible to change the source for editing and then back to be
>>> stored? I can th
copyright and ownership does apply to emails.
>
>
> Not even within Commons level of copyright paranoia is a word count
> chart encumbered.
>
I'm sure we can find somebody to debate it, if you'd like to
go down that road ;-)
Nemo: This is really cool!
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> that should keep everyone happy, right?
>
Possible? Maybe...would need work.
I guess it comes down to whether it's deemed to be worth
the work or not.
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n by all
means do so. But don't sit here and make accusations that none
of this was ever announced. That is simply not true.
As Tim said, this feature was in development for years, and was no
secret. The time for commenting has since passed, and I
oach that will take care of 90+% of the problem?
>
> Ryan Kaldari
>
Why once a year? We already get a successful externallinks dump
every dump cycle. Even the enwiki one is only half a month old[0].
If someone wants to work with Internet Archive or anyone else on
this, the data i
discussion period wouldn't hurt--and would give people a chance to do
some last-minute evaluation if they're on the fence.
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> are to do.
>
> The current talking TO them is not polite and will not lead to positive
> results.
+1
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On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:52 PM, geni wrote:
> On 1 July 2010 09:58, John Vandenberg wrote:
>
>> Who is WMF competing with?
>>
>
> Hudong
>
Or maybe Knol. Anyone remember Knol?
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Modern,
and issues in either get fixed rather quickly. It's only the old skins (Chic,
Simple, CologneBlue) that have been forgotten. And that's hardly the
WMF's fault...they're ignored by volunteer developers as well.
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A few of us noticed this several days back. If you check some
of the blacklists, lists.wikimedia.org seems to have some people's
naughty li
e else on the list, please allow me
to thank you for bringing up this useless argument for
the Nth time on this list. Bravo, truly.
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:25 PM, wrote:
> Chad, I'm hesitant to reply to your note, because I feel like "defending the
> staff against the community" is a bad role for me: it tends to polarize and
> divide, rather than helping us all work together well. And I think I
d
there's absolutely no reason to sugarcoat it.
If someone can't take public criticism, then quite frankly they
probably shouldn't be working on open source software.
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post can only being seen as an example of "agressive disrespect of other
> cultures" by people who think happening to be born in the USA is an agressive
> disrespect of other cultures. Americans are people too!
>
> Birgitte SB
>
>
This post can be seen as furthering an OT
good job of judging and
implementing community consensus, and saying that some things aren't
negotiable sets a bad precedence.
Of course I don't suggest we start a revert war in SVN over it, but I do think
that Trevor's revert should be backed out and the full list restored until a
be
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Yann Forget wrote:
> Hello,
>
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-June/
> Why is there no message after Thu Jun 3 06:59:53 UTC 2010?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Yann
>
See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikip
Oh why not? We end up with great features like the Spam Blacklist ;-)
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As a third party, I would love to see both of you stick to this and follow
the bet through to payout, one way or the other. :)
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years are vastly different, and trying to
reuse aspects of one in the other (especially messages!) will just confuse
people already happily using FR.
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e between the
meaning of "sighted" and "checked" or "review" and "approved."
These differences may be subtle, but they do matter. And it should
not fall on the communities to "fix" translations that have worked
just fine for quit
7;t know). In any case, I think Mike knows how to do his own job. He is
the lawyer after all, and the overwhelming majority of us are not.
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n third party servers.
>
> Yes, reCaptcha does. However iirc it has been rejected in the past because
> of both the reliance on 3rd party servers and not all the code is open.
> - Chris
>
Yes, and I think that makes it pretty much a non-starter for
both reasons. No
Adam: You've been repeating yourself for days and haven't
added anything new to the conversation. Until you can come
up with something worthwhile to say, please stop posting to
foundation-l on the subject.
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t least an eye-witness report
>>published in a reliable source. The image could, of course, be used
>>appropriately to illustrate an article on caricatures or something about
>>anti-catholicism.
>
>>Fred Bauder
>
Adam can you please stop starting a new thre
27;ve seen used is trying to get the Foundation
to "adopt" some existing project. This also tends to fail as people get
caught up over specifics (licensing, etc) and then lose interest. Or
it gets said that Wikimedia is not a "host*" for projects.
I'm curious to know, how
/ it would produce a bunch of "I agree"s and "I'll post how
I want"s and go nowhere useful at all.
Lame.
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re they'll
be just as trustworthy as that prince in Nigeria I've been
forwarding my bank details to.
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> this problem which have been kept from seeing the
> light of day, for untold reasons.
>
> It might be worthwhile to open a page where the
> discussion could be centralized.»
>
> Like Chad pointed out, even within this
> discussion, there have been posts suggesting
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It requires you to take initiative to start the page and try
to draw others into a discussion. You don't need anyone's
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Some revisions from a long time ago don't exist anymore.
Such is life.
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Even better is [1], since it includes commits to
FlaggedRevs other than Aaron's.
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[1]
http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki?path=/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs
On Mar 4, 2010 1:20 PM, "William Pietri" wrote:
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> Wil
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> http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resources#Interaction_testing_automation
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looking on the other sites that seem to be posting it. I don't see
how posting their signing keys helps anyone trying to learn about
the company.
This sounds like a new case of "we want to post it because they don't
want it posted"
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handling copyright questions" together? It would probably help a lot of
people who are unclear on some points, as well as help remove some
grey areas (like the scenario that brought us here now). This may be a
terrible idea, but I'm just throwing it out there.
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are creations by Wikimedians, then hopefully they are under a
free license. They should be uploaded to Commons and organized, if
so!
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> I just wonder if I'm alone.
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> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 14:01, Chad wrote:
>
>> I can second the WikiReader! But yes: we do not charge for access to
>> our content. Both the sites and the database dumps are usable without
>> any charges, and have
: we do not charge for access to
our content. Both the sites and the database dumps are usable without
any charges, and have been since inception. If people want to do things
with that content--download, analyze, sell, create a business model
around it--they're all certainly allowed to do that, as lon
We had that. They called themselves the "Association
of Member's Advocates." They were disbanded because
everyone saw them as a huge waste of time with 0 net
benefit.
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The topic is about the WSJ's writings about Wikipedian
participation. That is all.
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debate, even.
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We can manage to create 3d copies of the globe but we can't manage to fix
the logo? For shame ;-)
In all seriousness, new offi
ced nothing else in the last 4 years, it's that Wikimedians
have very short attention spans when it comes to these sorts of
things. We all talk about our bright and shiny ideal future and throw
around a few ideas. Someone starts a page (or an entire wiki) to
discussing the issue. People edit
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I could be very wrong (and Erik feel free to correct if I am), but I think he
was referring to scaling in a completely technical sense of the term, no
t: we can finally put the name confusion to rest ;-)
In all seriousness though. Brion: best of luck on the new job and
with future endeavors. You will be missed greatly by both devs
and Wikimedians alike. And you'll still have commit access, so I
hope to keep seeing "Revert
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You've stated this. You've been told to contact the Ombudsmen if there's
an issue. No need to re-state yourself (again) on foundation-l.
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Exactly. Its certainly closer to realization now than
it has been in the past.
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On Sep 24, 2009 9:11 AM, "Liam Wyatt" wrote:
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It is in usable conditio...
> The current testing of LiquidThreads and tweaking of the interface
It is in usable condition ;-)
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On Sep 24, 2009 3:37 AM, "David Gerard" wrote:
2009/9/24 Jonathan Kallay :
> It seems to me that a new Wikipedia-inspired project could help address >
the many civility/noise...
> Thoughts?
Feature suggestions for LiquidThreads? That&#
y
much every dump was failing. They've got all but one dump for one wiki
working, and that's still being worked on too. What more would you ask?
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The only part of that budget that makes sense to me is the legal fees, and
they're certainly not a back-breaking amount either.
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moved all artifacts of alien technology."
This part was a joke (I think). Specifically, he was joking about some people's
tendencies to find conspiracy theories when none exist.
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I'm guessing this means our inside guys at the DOJ and DOD have
done their jobs and can be disposed of now?
I'll be on the next plane to Bangkok to meet with our friend about the
thing.
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bothered.
In all seriousness, allow me to echo Brian on this. It may not be your
opinion on the matter, but Gregory is certainly allowed to share his
and doesn't need to suffer a berating on foundation-l for expressing it.
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razy) there's no reason
for the staff not to implement it. The real decision here is for the
community.
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Maybe so, but the threads you have contributed to contain quite a
number of posts
This list has really high traffic (depending on season, it fluctuates a bit)
and it can be a bit overwhelming at times. Moderation isn't the answer
though. The signal to noise ratio here remains fairly decent, so we wouldn't
really gain anything through moderation (except some very tired m
;diff=310409846&oldid=310396138
> (content
> dispute)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kareli,_Georgia&curid=18661674&diff=310409393&oldid=310348062
> (vandalism,
> I think)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Victoria_Justice
gt; his fork (Omidyar Network).
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Wow. Justwow. Wikimedia, this really r
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I'm pretty sure the reason it hasn't been released has nothing to do with malice
or officially suppressing the record. I think it has more to do with
laziness (or lack
of time) on part of those who do possess the recording. Unprofessio
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2009/8/24 Chad :
>> The only user requirement for this is that a shell user has to
>> perform the actual decision. The community makes the decisions
>> about opening/closing new projects, and the sysadmins carry
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to clean it
up or close it.
We tout the "Wikipedia in 270 languages" statistic quite often, and it's
something that is seen as an accomplishment. I would rather see how
many Wikipedias we have that are successes--measured in terms of
growth and a supportive community (of both readers and writers).
What good is a Revised-Lower-Eastern-Phoenician Wikipedia if
nobody uses it?
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we've got now.
Of course, nobody wants that number to go down--article milestones are
great PR. We've just celebrated 3mil, and it would be rough for the
community to see 2.8mil tomorrow :)
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ta dumps. A private
podcast produced by individual volunteers is under zero obligations to meet
any sort of deadlines. I don't see what you expect the Foundation or the
Election Committee to do about a privately produced podcast. Now, is it ideal?
Of course not...it'd be like one of the
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As long as all sites are getting treated equally, it's fine in my book.
I only take issue when results are skewed because Google bumps
results up/down arbitrarily
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Well, the raw data is certainly available, but more involved
statistics will take someone with time and a
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This is a very true point. To people not in the industry, there seems to be
little distinction b
ne, perhaps any official announcement about the elections
> (i.e. on the Wikimedia blog and in press releases) should address this, even
> if only tacitly.
>
> Steven Walling
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Chad wrote:
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>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Philippe
>&g
h this process. The
> committee extends its gratitude and thanks to them
>
>
> For the committee,
> Philippe
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Congrat
ectable!
>>
>>
> It's also refreshing to see people who accept their share of
> responsibility when something has gone. Kudos to both of you for such
> rare kind of behaviour.
>
>
> Ec
>
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> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Brianna
> Laugher wrote:
>> Re GLAM repositories as a MediaWiki repo, I don't know enough on the
>> tech side to know if it is even a remotely feasible idea. But on the
>> 'social&#x
are certainly feasible with the current code base; it's not going to
require some massive re-write of anything.
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On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
>
> * ensure that the developers have what they need and are coding smoothly
>
Personally, I'm just waiting for Mediawiki to become self-aware and start
coding itself :)
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Then ask him/her about it off list. This has nothing to do with foundation-l.
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> Hello, Huib.
>
> O.K. I promise to stop this if Jade would declare her/his edit history
> or other activity - I think it's very very easy -
Fowarding to Foundation-l, just so more people are in the loop
and don't swarm #wikimedia-tech with "ZOMG SITE BROKEN!"
:)
-Chad
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>
I'm speaking as a volunteer: go away, and take your thread with you.
It is /not/ appropriate for foundation-l, period.
It is obvious to everyone that this thread exists for solely one reason:
for you to bitch and moan when you didn't get what you wanted on
your timetabl
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM, stevertigo wrote:
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>> I don't care who's proposing it, to be honest. My issue is that
>> this thread does not belong on foundation-l, which others seem
>> to agree since I first
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I don't care who's proposing it, to be honest. My issue is that
this thread does not belong on foundation-l, which other
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Not sure what this has to do with foundation-l, can this go back to wikien-l?
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All,
For those of you who have not read the news yet, Walter Cronkite,
icon of the CBS Evening News, has passed away.
We are the continuation of the media industry that he helped define
in many ways. My thoughts are with his family.
-Chad
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Philippe
Beaudette wrote:
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> On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Chad wrote:
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>> Does anyone know the guy who owns enwp.org?
>>
>> That being said, enwp.org/?oldid=1234 does work :)
>>
>> -Chad
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> (Asked whois.pi
dation-l
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Yes it does, enwp.org/?oldid=60372135 should redirect you to
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/?oldid=60372135 which is a 2006 revision
of [[Old-Timers' Day]] (thanks Special:Random).
-Chad
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