Re: [DISCUSS] taking Apache Flex to the next level

2013-01-04 Thread jude
Examples would be great. One thing we can do now is market what Flex *is* (we have that description in a few places) and that *we are making it better*. That is that we fixing bugs, adding new components, removing dependencies, setting up Mustella tests, cutting new releases, working on the new Fa

Re: Installer Button Truncation

2013-01-03 Thread jude
nts it won't enable the install button. Is the screen > blank except for the install button? > > > On 1/3/13 10:02 PM, "jude" wrote: > > > The install button is disabled for me. This is on the screen right after > > the choose the download location s

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex SDK Installer 2.0 - RC2

2013-01-03 Thread jude
I've read through some of the previous threads on this and the config xml and I don't know what was decided if anything. What I'd want to see in it is default to downloading the latest Flash Player, AIR and playerglobal swc. Is there are any reasons to have previous versions? I'm guessing they're n

Re: Installer Button Truncation

2013-01-03 Thread jude
The install button is disabled for me. This is on the screen right after the choose the download location screen. I think there is supposed to be a Accept License agreement checkbox which I don't see. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > Justin, are you ready to cut an

Re: Flex 5 in haxe

2012-11-16 Thread jude
and web applications. IF THEY KNOW OF IT. It can be very successful in that market. It'd be 1000x better for developers if Adobe would say Flex can run fine on Flash going into the next ten years instead of saying Flash is for gaming. If someone wants to do gaming, we the developers, will be the first to tell them Flash is ready for them. Jude

Re: Flex 5 in haxe

2012-11-16 Thread jude
Another penny... Adobe was not good at marketing Flex (or AIR). And I don't think we're doing well at selling or marketing Flex either. How many people or clients know it's the best solution out there for targeting multiple platforms plus it's many other benefits? I can't speak for everyone but I k

Re: Flex 5 in haxe

2012-11-16 Thread jude
+1 to Nick's comments. Alex has stated that Adobe is looking at how the Flex community responds to Apache Flex. We need the Flash Player and AIR. Adobe needs to continue to support us. Adobe cannot starve it's children anymore. This needs to change. Flex is the greatest framework / toolchain I've

Re: [VOTE] Alex Harui for PMC Chair of Apache Flex

2012-11-16 Thread jude
+1 On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Miguel Martín-Forero Ruiz < miguel.mar...@cycle-it.com> wrote: > +1 > >

Re: Is FXG a good long term choice for Apache Flex?

2012-10-05 Thread jude
I think it's a good long term investment. There is a lot already invested in it. FXG is more like SVG 4.0. Also, there has been work done on the compiler that produces optimized FXG. FXG is Flex' friend. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Yvon Sauvageau wrote: > Don't convert your FXG to SVG for re

Re: I was tired of waiting.

2012-09-12 Thread jude
Just to be clear there is no where in the apache regulations that say projects should or shouldn't have a roadmap or a plan. What it says is it's up to the ppmc members on how they choose to run their project. Not saying anything either way just saying... On Wednesday, September 12, 2012, Justin

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-31 Thread jude
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 8/30/12 7:49 PM, "jude" wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > >> On 8/30/12 1:36 PM, "jude" wrote: > >>> Remember when iOS 5 ca

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread jude
FYI It ran fine for me. I did mention it supported AS3 > HTML on the site (so no Flash Player requirement). So it's says it's doing what we want it to IIUC but I couldn't find any links to live examples. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Omar

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread jude
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > On 8/30/12 1:36 PM, "jude" wrote: > > Remember when iOS 5 came out a year or so ago? The HTML5 performance in > > that browser was 2FPS. After that update it was 35-40FPS. A 2000% > increase. > > [1] > Ye

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread jude
One thing that keeps coming back to me on this conversation is the argument of performance, time to market and bandwidth vs correct architecture. Why are we targeting HTML? Apple decides not to support Flash in iOS so now Adobe rearranges resources to develop HTML development tools so now we are t

Re: What would it take to move to Git?

2012-08-24 Thread jude
A little late to the discussion but a great article on why you should switch to git (from subversion) with a brief overview of Git, http://teamtreehouse.com/blog/why-you-should-switch-from-subversion-to-git On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Carol Frampton wrote: > > > On 8/14/12 11 :58AM, "Carlo

Re: [MENTORS] Current Branching Strategy Vote Results

2012-08-15 Thread jude
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Carlos, > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Carlos Rovira > wrote: > > ...the problem is not about tooling. Is about the things we plan to do. > The > > revision and transformation of the core at flex... > > I guess that's where

Re: [VOTE] Branching Strategy and SCM

2012-08-14 Thread jude
As Omar said, it will be *more* productive for us to use Git going forward. The workflow model is already setup http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/. The disadvantage, which is small, is that those that don't know it w

Re: [VOTE] Branching Strategy and SCM

2012-08-14 Thread jude
9 (unbound) Jude On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Carlos Rovira < carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote: > My non-binding vote goes without doubt for GIT with nvie model: > > http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ > > So 8 --> Git Branching Model on

Re: What would it take to move to Git?

2012-08-13 Thread jude
I'm comfortable with SVN too but support the move to Git / GitHub because it is an environment that makes work like this much more efficient. People can easily fork the project, make a change and get it to a working state. Then the main branch can easily patch those changes back in. It is also an a

Re: [ROADMAP] Apache Flex Steering Survey

2012-08-07 Thread jude
participation count and so on if some how we can gather and show this information. I'd be glad to help on this tool if there's interest. Jude On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Keith Sutton wrote: > All, > > Some of you may have seen tweets and emails concerning a Apache Flex >

Re: [ROADMAP] Apache Flex Steering Survey - Squiggly and Gravity

2012-08-05 Thread jude
Yeah, it's Monocle. OK I just saw the your post on Gravity further down. I could use something like this on a project I'm working on now. On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Keith Sutton wrote: > Good on Squiggly Jude, Gravity below, can't find anything on Telemetry - > di

Re: [jira] [Updated] (FLEX-33156) focusInHandler() in spark Scroller doesn't null check focusManager property before using

2012-08-05 Thread jude
I just spent the last 3 days on this error. The solution was to have the container of the component of the event.target (in the Scroller focusInHandler) implement the IFocusManagerContainer. Specifically the container needs to override the systemManager getter. Either way we should find out what,

Re: [ROADMAP] Apache Flex Steering Survey - Revised component status

2012-08-05 Thread jude
Squiggly is an Action Script spell checking library for developers who work in Adobe® Flash® Professional, Adobe Flex® Builder™, or other IDEs that support ActionScript. The Squiggly package contains six .swc files – three of which integration convenience classes called SpellUI, one for Flex 3, ano

Re: Flex SDK description

2012-08-05 Thread jude
It's on our wiki as well [1]. I would change the last line to, "Flex applications can be deployed to the ubiquitous Adobe® Flash® Player in the browser, Adobe® AIR™ on desktop and mobile or to native Android, iOS, QNX, PC or Mac applications." [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/F

[DISCUSS]How to measure performance going forward

2012-07-26 Thread jude
off for measurement? I mean it looks like LayoutManager.getInstance().validateClient() is doing something like that. Jude

Re: HTTPService Header Info

2012-07-13 Thread jude
I would welcome it. I could list reasons but it's an issue we're all common with. PS Maybe add discuss or vote tags to the thread :) On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > As we are getting closer to our first release I'm starting to build up a > list of changes I would like t

Re: Changes to the homepage

2012-06-26 Thread jude
I can write this up but I don't have access to change any of it. Before I write up the page contents can I get a confirmation that it will be changed (with approval of the content of course)? FYI I'd like to remove all the obstacles that get in the way of someone helping on this project. I want to

Re: Footer

2012-06-26 Thread jude
BTW I think only Bertrand can make this happen... It's not something I can do. On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:47 AM, jude wrote: > I'm all for coming up with something brilliant but for until then > something like this: > > -- > Apache Flex > http://incubator.apache.or

Re: [OT] HTML and Flex layouts

2012-06-25 Thread jude
In regards to the frequent questions of HTML and Flex and other topics, some more OT than others, some of these questions have been asked before but the answer then may be different than the answer now. In that case, instead of closing someone down, may I suggest we don't respond (let the conversat

Re: [OT] HTML and Flex layouts

2012-06-25 Thread jude
> > 1.But why they didn't propose these things (HGrop etc) to W3C for better > layout. > The browsers already have something like this. It's called the table element. It works great for vertical, horiztonal and grid layout. There are some disadvantages to it compared to other layout approaches. For

Re: [DISCUSS] Make EffectManager effects property public

2012-06-25 Thread jude
How much freedom do we have? Marking it public is fine, using a getter is fine, adding a setter is fine as well. What about adding the effect instances to the effectsPlaying property on EffectManager.effectStart() method? Would that have any adverse effect? If it did we could refactor effectsPlayi

Re: [DISCUSS] Make EffectManager effects property public

2012-06-24 Thread jude
That's what I thought but it only contains trigger effects. The effects dictionary contains effect instances that are registered in mx.effects.EffectInstance startEffect() and then removed with the finishEffect(). You can get the public function startEffect():void { EffectManager.e

Re: Footer

2012-06-24 Thread jude
I'm all for coming up with something brilliant but for until then something like this: -- Apache Flex http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > Is anyone against adding a basic footer? > > Sound good - do you have anything in mind? > > Ju

Re: Painful story...

2012-06-16 Thread jude
You can't tell stories at work? I think some of us would say it is related. It's motivation. And with all the delays it can be easy to forget why we're all here. Besides that, it's interesting. I like these discussions because it shows the pros and cons of what's out there and what we can learn fr

Re: [jira] [Updated] (FLEX-51) Please check support for ExactValue initializer

2012-05-04 Thread jude
Is it possible to support a constant directive using this patch immediately while we work out the details for the Once directive? For example, in these examples you would want to have the constant value but don't want to have the binding overhead: Or is that already happening with constants?

Re: [MENTORS] Handling Adobe Binaries

2012-05-01 Thread jude
NAL (not a lawyer) either but when I was working on music copyright issues you could use copyright materials if you were granted permission from the copyright holder. ie "...you may not reproduce, redistribute or otherwise use any materials *without* the express written consent..." etc Not sure if

Re: bay area folks and flash

2012-04-18 Thread jude
Hi Mike, >From the newsletter, "Those of you who attended our meeting on April 16 were struck by Lee Brimelow's emphatic exhortation to ActionScript and Flex programmers: 'If you want to continue to earn a living, you MUST get your head out of the sand and learn about HTML5.'" We know what it is

Re: Halo x Spark

2012-03-26 Thread jude
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 7:20 AM, sébastien Paturel wrote: > > For easy skining, we can create a new component lib, based on Spark wich > could expose same skin settings than MX ones do. > That would not be so much work to do and it could give back the easy > skining ability we liked with MX. > MX

Re: [OT] What are we doing here?

2012-03-12 Thread jude
We need the guys from Adobe to chime in and share their process, the goals, constraints and principles of Flex SDK development and requirements. As much of what they do, why they do it and how would ease the transition. We can guess all we want until then (not that that's what you've done Justin)

Re: Missing Spark Components List

2012-03-10 Thread jude
"I pushed for Adobe to remove HGroup and VGroup before the release of spark as I saw these as absolutely pointless" The point is to have the component type that you need ready for you when you need it. Don't re-invent the wheel every time. Some of these are easy to make *for us*. Things like VGro

Re: Mailing list footers?

2012-03-10 Thread jude
The one in Paul's email is fine with me. The first link is for people that want to help with the project and don't know where to get started, not necessarily for people who don't know what Flex is. We want to be helpful to new comers in this way (search for "want to help" or "how to get started" in

Re: Why Spark? (was Re: s:Spacer (was Re: Missing Spark components))

2012-03-03 Thread jude
That's the plan (loosely). A set of core components and then convenience components. On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Rob Sheely wrote: > Maybe we can build on the concept of the Spark BorderContainer (quoting > the docs): > > The BorderContainer container provides a set of CSS styles and class

Re: Flex -> HTML, Linux and time to say goodbye?

2012-02-28 Thread jude
I'm sure it's obvious but in a company with so many interconnected parts you have interconnected sales. So when someone who needs to target Windows, OSX and Linux and Flash provides that solution then it becomes very appealing over other technologies. If you don't support Linux then what sets you

Re: SEO for SWF Was: Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-28 Thread jude
A few years ago Google posted a proposal for making ajax crawlable [1]. You'll need to read it to get the details but basically if you used a special URL it would return only the data result not the view. To quote, In summary, starting with a stateful URL such as http://example.com/dictionary.html

Re: [IDEAS] Flex: New user interface design

2012-02-27 Thread jude
IMHO I wouldn't invest more time in themes. How is it that hey can change behavior or break your app by switching between them. Specifically because when I went from the mx theme to the Spark theme features, styles and behavior I was expecting to be there wasn't. In took a lot to upgrade an app to

Re: Mailing list footers?

2012-02-27 Thread jude
That's a standard footer size in most mailing lists (ie all adobe mailing lists). I think if we decide to point to one page then we need that one page to point to the pages we're taking out of the footer. BTW There's no link to JIRA in our navigation links or a link to the awesome FAQ page I start

Re: [IDEAS] Flex: New user interface design

2012-02-26 Thread jude
I like the real world units idea. I don't know what it would involve to apply it across the framework. Would it replace the use of setting to px or compliment it? Would you go by millimeters or inches? I think Adobe investigated this real world units. I don't know what happened with it. It might h

Re: Mailing list footers?

2012-02-26 Thread jude
g/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.flex-dev> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:30 PM, jude wrote: > > > How's this: > > > > Home - http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > Getting Started - > > https://c

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-24 Thread jude
This is an interesting if familiar development. For many years Adobe ignored development of the Flash Player on the Mac because it was not as big a market for them as Windows. They also were slow to upgrade their other Adobe suite software for the same reason. Apple made many requests (complaints

Re: [RT] Wiki page for wishes - was BSON

2012-02-24 Thread jude
I don't either. But what I'm suggesting is just an open ended "i wish ..." type of page. Does JIRA show an aggregate list of features in an unencumbered way? If so let's do that. But that has the risk of being a technical entry in what is trying to be a general summary. This would make it easier f

Re: Mailing list footers?

2012-02-24 Thread jude
How's this: Home - http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ Getting Started - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Getting+Started Project Wiki - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Apache+Flex+(incubating)+Wiki FAQ - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/FAQ --- Maili

Re: Mailing list footers?

2012-02-24 Thread jude
I think if we wait for everyone to chime in it won't happen. I think we should use the below for now and leave it open to be updated or modified if discussion starts up again. -- Home - http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ Project Wiki - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Apache+Flex+(i

[RT] Wiki page for wishes - was BSON

2012-02-24 Thread jude
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Charles Monteiro wrote: > I know , we are not meant to put up a wish list, but certainly having a... > I think we should have a place where people *can* put up their wishes. These could also be connected to Jira tasks. Let people say what they want. I'm referring

Re: Early access to Falcon compiler

2012-02-23 Thread jude
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > Maybe Falcon will do a non-NDA pre-release so you can see the code... > I think that's what all of us are asking for if we can't get the compiler any sooner. ...but I don't think you can go modify it and put it in the Apache SVN. The same

Re: [IDEAS] Flex: New user interface design

2012-02-23 Thread jude
*Note: If you double click on the button in the example [2] it shows the another screen showing another example. 2012/2/23 jude > This would be great. I've been working on some things like this. I've > created skins for OSX like scrollbars [1], a throw button [2] and skins f

Re: [IDEAS] Flex: New user interface design

2012-02-23 Thread jude
This would be great. I've been working on some things like this. I've created skins for OSX like scrollbars [1], a throw button [2] and skins for search text input (I'll have to post it). The throw button is any button that emits events when you press on it and drag into a direction. In the examp

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-22 Thread jude
*Flex is also very good for developing non-enterprise applications* Yes! It is. I think Flex solves many of the most complicated environments. Many types of applications can benefit from it. *Yet*, *hardly anyone is aware of it..*. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Haykel BEN JEMIA wrote: > Fl

Re: Adobe might think of open-sourcing the Design View if there is sufficient interest

2012-02-22 Thread jude
+1 There is a lot of interest. Also Flash Catalyst DV. The way it is able to create a skin component classes from the design view is an important part of the learning process for. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Jason Batten wrote: > Another +1, it's good for quick wireframes and getting start

Re: [RT] Awesome FlexNext User Experience (was: Starting with the Whiteboard code)

2012-02-20 Thread jude
ex Harui wrote: > > > > On 2/20/12 1:09 AM, "jude" wrote: > > > What about a browser plug in that would handle .mxml files? Then you'd > just > > drag and drop an MXML file to the browser and it would render? > It is the fact that certain browsers don&

Re: [RT] Awesome FlexNext User Experience (was: Starting with the Whiteboard code)

2012-02-20 Thread jude
which is probably the reason for all > the discussion about moving away from Flash. > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:09 AM, jude wrote: > > > The ease of making HTML pages was partly what hooked me so long ago. I > > could type something in a text editor and it would s

Re: Creating Working Groups [Was: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve]

2012-02-20 Thread jude
Long delayed response... Sounds good. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:53 PM, jude wrote: > > ...We need a wiki that allows people to contribute to it, we need a blog > > updated so people can stay up to date without being on t

Re: [RT] Awesome FlexNext User Experience (was: Starting with the Whiteboard code)

2012-02-20 Thread jude
The ease of making HTML pages was partly what hooked me so long ago. I could type something in a text editor and it would show up rendered in the browser. What about a browser plug in that would handle .mxml files? Then you'd just drag and drop an MXML file to the browser and it would render? Jud

Re: [gosh] Goshhawk language choices and more [Was: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour]

2012-02-20 Thread jude
I say we ask Adobe to show us the money! I mean show us the code of Falcon / Falcon JS early before it's "officially" released. It will take time to get up to speed on it and having the code to learn, even before participating, will help us be ready to go. 2012/2/20 Jarosław Szczepankiewicz > Ad

[RT] Link or donation of action script errors domain

2012-02-19 Thread jude
I've been maintaining this site, http://www.actionscripterrors.com, for a few years now and I think with a community growing here I'd like to donate it (or add editor accounts to members on here). At one point I had worked with a few developers to add all the runtime and design time errors and warn

Re: [RT] Design View in FlashBuilder

2012-02-19 Thread jude
Thanks. I haven't seen that before. It looks sharp. On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Roland Zwaga wrote: > > > > What I've been thinking if it isn't obvious is creating an open source > > project(s). There's would be two parts to this. > > > > 1. An abstract eclipse like integrated environment (

Re: [RT] Design View in FlashBuilder

2012-02-19 Thread jude
ements come along it needs to be able to adapt easily to support those. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Benjamin Dobler wrote: > Wauw looks really promising! > Never been a fan of the design view but this could be something > interesting. > > > Am 18.02.2012 um 00:29 schrieb

Re: [RT] Design View in FlashBuilder

2012-02-17 Thread jude
Hi Roland, The URL should be up now. A couple of notes about the demo. The left column can be scrolled up or down (using touch interaction like behavior) to show more panels. The focus has been on creating an environment conducive to a design based workflow so the work has been in the panels more

Re: [RT] Design View in FlashBuilder

2012-02-17 Thread jude
I've been working on a Designer / Developer tool code name Radii8 [1]. :P It's goal is to help developers and designers with the stuff we are trying to do every day. It's sort of in limbo at the moment while I determine what to do next (which I don't know). Disclaimer: Although I've put a lot of w

Re: Creating Working Groups [Was: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve]

2012-02-06 Thread jude
rom Spoon reading? > > yours > Martin. > > > On 07/02/2012 03:53, jude wrote: > >> I understand completely. I'm not a commiter and I feel like I can't do >> anything. >> >> We need a wiki that allows people to contribute to it, we need a blog

Re: Creating Working Groups [Was: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve]

2012-02-06 Thread jude
I understand completely. I'm not a commiter and I feel like I can't do anything. We need a wiki that allows people to contribute to it, we need a blog updated so people can stay up to date without being on the mailing list, we need a FAQ to answer questions we've had before, we need to allow non-c

Auxiliary Flex SDK / SWC

2012-02-05 Thread jude
Quote from Alex in another thread, "...not everything belongs in the Flex project. For example, we have already discussed that application frameworks probably don't belong in the Flex project." I don't think the main Flex SDK should have every component in it but in today's world, developers have

Re: [Discussion] Printing from Flex

2012-02-04 Thread jude
I agree. It should be solved. I think the best way is to get an example project that tests the different print scenarios. I spent some time working with printing and it was overly complex but eventually got it to work. If you create an example like this, http://www.judahfrangipane.com/examples/web

Re: [Subject Tagging]

2012-02-01 Thread jude
Until we find out if we can add a note in the footer I think someone should send out the daily post (or bump the old one). The footer should contain these links and mailing list messages, Home - FAQ - Subscribe / Unsubscribe - Bug Report - Feature Request - Mailing List Archives Before postin

Re: Fast moving list - Blog or RSS feed

2012-01-30 Thread jude
A little late to this post. It's very nice. This is the kind of thing that makes communities run smooth. On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Ryan Frishberg wrote: > > ...I agree that it is indeed hard to keep track of everything happeni

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

2012-01-30 Thread jude
These are just off the top of my head. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:49 AM, jude wrote: > Someone needs to create a FAQ that points to these discussions. > > 1) Will the next version of Flex output to HTML5 > Probably not. > > Current roadblocks: > • HTML5 does not support

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

2012-01-30 Thread jude
Someone needs to create a FAQ that points to these discussions. 1) Will the next version of Flex output to HTML5 Probably not. Current roadblocks: • HTML5 does not support the full API used by Flex. Solutions suggested include creating an alternative version of the SDK without them. • Roadblock 2

Re: Port some mobile components to web

2012-01-29 Thread jude
also thinking of the CallOut component. That might involve a lot more classes. [0] http://www.judahfrangipane.com/blog/2011/01/16/stagewebview-uicomponent/ On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: jude [mailto:flexcapaci...@gmail.com]

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

2012-01-28 Thread jude
To the list owner, can we get a link in the footer to the list home, list search and unsubscribe pages? On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > Again, most of this has been discussed in prior threads. > > -- >

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - listen to Steve

2012-01-28 Thread jude
About your Flash CPU hog comment, since Flash Player 10.1 [0]: Changes: - *New Timer* - Flash Player 10.1 beta 3 introduces its own periodic timer that delivers consistent cross platform behavior and eliminates the dependency on different browser timer implementations. - *Less Polling

Re: [OT] Atlassian

2012-01-28 Thread jude
adobe.com/products/adobeconnect.html > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > > On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:05 PM, jude wrote: > > > The Flash Player is unique in that it creates markets. When Adobe or > > Macromedia added webcam support all of a sudden video chat applicatio

Re: [OT] Atlassian

2012-01-28 Thread jude
The Flash Player is unique in that it creates markets. When Adobe or Macromedia added webcam support all of a sudden video chat applications are possible, QR code readers are made possible, augmented reality is made possible, face recognition is made possible, motion tracking is made possible, etc.

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-28 Thread jude
moving on... On Saturday, January 28, 2012, Joan Llenas Masó wrote: > sorry jude.. My answer wasn't appropriate. > The post subject is literally the webminar title. The proberv intent was to > enfatize that knowing the competence and knowing yourself increases the > chances of d

Re: Webinar: Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha

2012-01-27 Thread jude
Are you serious? You posted a thread titled, "Moving from Adobe Flex to HTML5 and Sencha" on the Apache Flex incubator list? Who said Sencha is our enemy? Judah Frangipane On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 5:38 AM, Joan Llenas Masó < joan.llenas.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sencha has done a great job making

Re: Optimize Flex performance

2012-01-27 Thread jude
Right. And if you're project was 1MB and you could get 10 more frames per second out of an optimization that added 50kb then you'd want to flip that switch. What I mean is that it's the type of choice you could add as a compiler option. We already have to make the size vs speed vs convenience choic

Re: Port some mobile components to web

2012-01-27 Thread jude
Performance and memory are my top considerations for any code in the framework. If I submit a patch who reviews it? Does it go straight to the list? On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: jude [mailto:flexcapaci...@gmail.c

Re: Port some mobile components to web

2012-01-27 Thread jude
I back ported Callout to 4.1 it's working quite well (which is an attribute to the original code). But it was a major pain. I attribute that mainly to the back porting part. The touch events all translated from mouse events. Anyway, if someone wants to do it it would work. Why not me? I might. Ale

Re: Optimize Flex performance

2012-01-27 Thread jude
It sounds like a decision that has to be made by the project. For mobile apps size is not as much of a concern as performance. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > The Falcon compiler will have some bytecode optimizations that the current > compiler doesn't do, such as constant

Re: Flex 5 should be divided to desktop project and mobile project

2012-01-27 Thread jude
There aren't really mobile components. There are components that have been made mobile "aware" by the mobile theme (mobile skin) and the interaction mode being set to "touch" ranther than "mouse". Most mobile components work well in non mobile (non touch) environments already and thats because mous

Re: State of the Project

2012-01-26 Thread jude
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/23/12 3:00 AM, "Martin Heidegger" wrote: > > > I think the tension here is justified. Many people waited for a long > > time to work on things and the expectations are high. Right now a lot > > of requests and questions that the p

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-26 Thread jude
+1 #42 On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Yiotis Katsambas wrote: > +1 #49 > > > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM, David Francis Buhler < > davidbuh...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > +1 #42 > > >

Re: Proposal: Code Example / Application Development Procedure (was: Re: Non-core code, contrib and samples (was: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications...))

2012-01-21 Thread jude
I wanted to create some getting started examples too because it has taken me a while to understand how to put all the pieces in Flex together. I think it would be helpful to see examples and would even welcome review and discussion on it. I think we can and should make it clear that the example is

Fast moving list - Blog or RSS feed

2012-01-21 Thread jude
This mailing list is has so many topics going on I'm not able to follow it all. Is there a official channel to subscribe or read on project news? I'm sure it exists but I didn't see it Take for example, if I go away for a week. When I gets back I would want to see a high level summary of news item

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-20 Thread jude
08 - 5pts

Re: Falcon compiler source code / Falcon architecture

2012-01-19 Thread jude
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > For example, an MXML tag resulted in a UIComponentDescriptor for MX > components and a tree of functions for Spark components. The plan was to > have an MXML tag result in an entry in an Array that consisted of the class > followed by property

Re: Overly large classes (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-17 Thread jude
By all means do it and post it here. I'd rather have more interfaces with a few more bytes and less dependences if I understand you correctly. On Monday, January 16, 2012, David Arno wrote: >> From: Tink [mailto:f...@tink.ws ] >> Sent: 16 January 2012 08:21 >> There is also a small amount of code

Re: Did Flex lost contact to its investors?

2012-01-15 Thread jude
. On Sunday, January 15, 2012, Jeffry Houser wrote: > On 1/15/2012 2:27 AM, jude wrote: >> >> It's not their job to tell us what technology to use. > > You've never worked for an Enterprise client, have you? > > While some clients may be oblivious they have no

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread jude
I think it should be clarified that a class or function with what we would determine is a high number of lines of code does not mean that its an indicator of crap code. If you go by line numbers then anyone who places the opening brace on the next line will have at least 25% more lines than someone

Re: Compiler optimization for getter/setter

2012-01-15 Thread jude
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Tink wrote: > If you don't specify a custom event (which IMO is lazy), it still > shouldn't run all the getters, as when the PropertyChangeEvent is caught, > the value of 'event.property' is checked. If the string matches the name of > the property that the code i

Re: Did Flex lost contact to its investors?

2012-01-14 Thread jude
Could it be the winter holidays? Work has always slowed during Thanksgiving and Christmas. It usually picks up after people get back into their jobs. BTW We follow Flash news. Not every business does. Some companies are oblivious and others don't care. They don't care because they know we are the

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

2012-01-13 Thread jude
It's a good thing I don't get worked up about things. :P #toomuchcaffeineortechnomusic On Friday, January 13, 2012, jude wrote: > The Flex SDK (the Apache Flex project) is the source of everything related to Flex. If you want to get Flex you come here. Isn't this now the offic

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