Very cool... On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Adobe Connect.[1] It very clearly leverages Flash as you suggest. In many > of the same ways. Some are switching to that from GotoMeeting. > > Apache OpenMeetings[2] is in the incubator. > > [1] http://www.adobe.com/products/adobeconnect.html > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > > On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:05 PM, jude wrote: > > > The Flash Player is unique in that it creates markets. When Adobe or > > Macromedia added webcam support all of a sudden video chat applications > are > > possible, QR code readers are made possible, augmented reality is made > > possible, face recognition is made possible, motion tracking is made > > possible, etc. (add "on a mass scale" to all of these things.) > > > > When they added microphone support speech to text is made possible, > podcast > > applications are made possible, voip are made possible, live digital > audio > > software is made possible. > > > > When they added video decoding support movies and television content were > > made possible. > > > > At each of these points in time Adobe had a potential opportunity. Think > of > > all the businesses that exist because of these features. Theoretically > > speaking they could have made a Skype (and still can), they could and can > > make a Google Voice, they could and can make an iTunes. They could and > did > > make a GoToMeeting but that's another story. But I *wouldn't* recommend > > them doing these things (not if it means laying off other teams). They > are > > great at tooling and I think they should focus on that but there is a way > > for them to benefit from all of these innovations. > > > > If I was trying to make Flash profitable I would have someone on the > Flash > > Player and Flex SDK feature releases and forums and watch for and promote > > new projects using their new features. Then I'd invest in those > developers > > and companies and do everything I can to make them successful. As the > > developers and companies are successful, Adobe would be successful too. > > They'd also have a continual insight into the features and needs for > their > > design and developer tools. Alex, I'll available immediately for this > > position ;) > > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Roland Zwaga [mailto:rol...@stackandheap.com] > >>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:33 AM > >>> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > >>> Subject: Re: [OT] Atlassian > >>> > >>> Hi Alex, > >>> > >>> So I'm trying to understand > >>> where > >>> this disconnect between Adobe and its enterprise > >>> customers stemmed from, when Atlassian is a great example of a company > >>> who > >>> IS able to make money in that area. > >>> Like I said before, I'm not attacking/bashing Adobe, I'm just trying to > >>> understand where things went wrong. > >>> > >> I'm not involved in the business part of Adobe, but again, Atlassian can > >> get money from each employee at an enterprise customer. The Flash > Platform > >> only gets money from each developer at an enterprise customer. > >> > >> Frameworks are expensive and many very successful ones like JQuery are > >> 'free' and developed in the open. Adobe is trying to best serve its Flex > >> customers by following the same model. > >> > >> The 'disconnect' was in the execution of the announcement of these > >> changes, as has been discussed. > >> > >> Alex Harui > >> Flex SDK Developer > >> Adobe Systems Inc. > >> Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > >> > >> > >> > >