Re: Non-core code, contrib and samples (was: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications...)

2012-01-15 Thread Peter Elst
> And thus, we should probably not use application frameworks in our examples > on the project website. The application framework vendors should have > their > own examples on their website. Maybe we could have a wiki with references to those application framework vendor examples, and other Apac

[LOGO] Denis Kristianto

2012-01-15 Thread Denis Kristianto
design improvements in terms of color. please be selected if there are color matched. URL png: http://omdenis.com/files/apache_flex3a.png ZIP: http://omdenis.com/files/apache_flex3a.zip

LOGO

2012-01-15 Thread Yan Thomas
Please Accept This Logo for Apache Flex Logo Contest Zip File: www.grandrat.com/Apache/Apache_Flex_Submit.rar JPG Version: www.grandrat.com/Apache/Apache_Flex.jpg PNG Version(Loads Slow): www.grandrat.com/Apache/Apache_Flex.png Yan Thomas - Designer

Re: Non-core code, contrib and samples (was: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications...)

2012-01-15 Thread Alex Harui
And thus, we should probably not use application frameworks in our examples on the project website. The application framework vendors should have their own examples on their website. On 1/15/12 10:21 AM, "Anne Kathrine Petterøe" wrote: > So for this we would need to contact the Legal PMC. --

Re: Overly large classes (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-15 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/15/12 6:07 PM, "Michael A. Labriola" wrote: > Disagree with you there. Spark is far from perfect but as someone who also > develops components every day I much prefer to problems of Spark over the > lets-do-everything-through-inheritance mx world. And that is the conundrum. Composition i

[LOGO] Summer Beins - Apache Flex Project

2012-01-15 Thread S. Beins
Please accept this entry to the Apache Flex Project Logo contest. URLs: http://www.talroc.com/ap/ApacheFlexLogoProposal-SBeins.png http://www.talroc.com/ap/ApacheFlexLogoProposal-SBeins.zip Thank You, Summer Beins

Re: [LOGO] Mike Kulinski

2012-01-15 Thread Michax
Thanks! Today i will try to create simplify version. Sent from my iPod On 16-01-2012, at 02:44, Randy Troppmann wrote: > Very nicely done. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2012-01-15, at 5:36 PM, MichaX wrote: > >> Yeah i will try to create something more typebased. >> >> I wonder if webdes

Re: [LOGO] Sterlings-Game

2012-01-15 Thread Martin Heidegger
Thanks! On 16/01/2012 07:18, Vitali Heinrich wrote: Like it +1

RE: Overly large classes (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-15 Thread Michael A. Labriola
Sorry Jeffry, Disagree with you there. Spark is far from perfect but as someone who also develops components every day I much prefer to problems of Spark over the lets-do-everything-through-inheritance mx world. Mike -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jef...@dot-com-it.com

Re: [LOGO] Mike Kulinski

2012-01-15 Thread Randy Troppmann
Very nicely done. Sent from my iPhone On 2012-01-15, at 5:36 PM, MichaX wrote: > Yeah i will try to create something more typebased. > > I wonder if webdesign of future homepage of apache flex is also up to some > vote based contest. > > Thanks a lot for suggestion! > > 2012/1/16 Garrafa Pet 2

OSCON

2012-01-15 Thread Michael A. Labriola
Just as an FYI, I submitted a topic to talk about what we are doing here at OSCON. Mike Notice: This transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged or confidential. Any dissemination, distribution o

Re: [LOGO] Mike Kulinski

2012-01-15 Thread MichaX
Yeah i will try to create something more typebased. I wonder if webdesign of future homepage of apache flex is also up to some vote based contest. Thanks a lot for suggestion! 2012/1/16 Garrafa Pet 2 Litros > Good colors, but it's a little too dense. in my opinion, something simpler > using th

Re: [LOGO] Mike Kulinski

2012-01-15 Thread Garrafa Pet 2 Litros
Good colors, but it's a little too dense. in my opinion, something simpler using these colors would fit better. Nice work! (My first post too, so don't follow my opinion so serious) 2012/1/15 MichaX > Hi, > > It's my first post, so Hello everybody! > > My logo and homepage website proposal cre

[LOGO] Mike Kulinski

2012-01-15 Thread MichaX
Hi, It's my first post, so Hello everybody! My logo and homepage website proposal created in rush: Preview: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25801721/logo_proposal_v1.jpg Psd: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25801721/flex_logo_3.zip As i'm mainly Flex Developer and not designer i would love to hear some comments

RE: Overly large classes (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-15 Thread David Arno
Tink, Jeffry, Maybe I've got confused, but I was describing spark.components.List, which I assume is a spark component. This class might be less monolithic than the halo version, but it is ridiculous to claim it implements composition. Take for example scrolling. In true composition, there would

Re: [LOGO] Sterlings-Game

2012-01-15 Thread Vitali Heinrich
Like it +1 Am 15. Januar 2012 07:12 schrieb Martin Heidegger : > Okay, here is my first thought for a logo design: "Sterlings Game". > No idea how I came up with that name. > > Preview: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/**19407988/apache-flex/Logo-** > Sterlings-Game.png

Re: Overly large classes (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-15 Thread Tink
On 15 Jan 2012, at 21:54, Jeffry Houser wrote: That is kind of what the Spark Architecture did. And the end result is that development is more complicated to extending and modifying things [from the perspective of a component developer] is a complete nightmare. It's much worse than the "to

Re: Overly large classes (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-15 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/15/2012 4:01 PM, David Arno wrote: I'll comment on List. The class does many things: it's a container; it displays the contents of a data provider; it supports scrolling; it supports item renderers; it supports dragging& dropping; it supports single selections; it supports multiple selecti

Re: Overly large classes (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-15 Thread Tink
A Spark List is maybe a bit more compositional (if thats a word) than you would think. It is a container, but it isn't really used as one (i.e. the Spark skinning issue previously discussed on this list), it doesn't really support Scrolling, it hands that off to a composite skin part Scro

Re: Compiler optimization for getter/setter

2012-01-15 Thread Tink
On 15 Jan 2012, at 12:19, jude wrote: What situation does "...force all the getters to be re-evaluated?" In the case of bindings which were cited in the first post, you would have to 1. Make a class [Bindable] or use to [Bindable] tag on multiple properties without specifying a custom

[Logo] Joan Llenas

2012-01-15 Thread Joan Llenas Masó
My submission: Preview: http://joan.garnet.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/flx.png Zip: http://joan.garnet.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/flx.zip Cheers! -- Joan Llenas Masó http://joan.garnet.io @joangarnet (es) @joanllenas (en)

RE: Overly large classes (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-15 Thread David Arno
> From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jef...@dot-com-it.com] > Sent: 15 January 2012 19:54 > I'm curious as to what your suggestions would be simplifying something like this? > [Or ignoring my commercial component, the Flex List class] I'd prefer not to comment on your commercial creations Jeffry, but

RE: AS3 and the AVM are two different things (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-15 Thread David Arno
> From: Jonathan Campos [mailto:jonbcam...@gmail.com] > Sent: 15 January 2012 20:14 > I was simplifying my explanation due to being mobile. > While you are correct about the implementation, that I am > not arguing, in the highlighted text I am highlighting the point > of my contention - that

Re: AS3 and the AVM are two different things (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-15 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM, David Arno wrote: > The AVM imposes limitations on > what changes we can make to the source language (there'll be no method > overloading for example without some nasty bodges), but we can still make > significant changes. > I was simplifying my explanation due t

RE: flex-users mailing list (starting over)

2012-01-15 Thread Douglas Arthur
> From: Douglas Arthur [mailto:dart...@vmware.com] > > I'll go ahead and give it 24 hours, just to give some time to allow others to > respond if they so desire. > - Doug More than 24 hours have passed with no further discussions. I have created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4333 f

Re: Did Flex lost contact to its investors?

2012-01-15 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Doug McCune wrote: > Getting well-done video content like that can go a long way in impressing > enterprise customers, but it ain't cheap. I would LOVE to see Spoon raise > enough money to be able to create really slick, well-produced video case > studies that sho

Re: Overly large classes (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-15 Thread Doug McCune
When it comes to overly large classes there are a few issues: 1. overall swf file size bloat 2. performance 3. complexity when extending/modifying functionality For me, the first point about swf file size is the least important. That would be a great side effect if we could get the total size down

Re: Did Flex lost contact to its investors?

2012-01-15 Thread Doug McCune
> > "success stories" but mostly that > could be a place where we can present Flex projects - enterprise apps, > entertaiment, mobile aps, you name it. I agree 100%, this would be very useful in the PR battle. Note however, that these things, if done really well, are quite expensive. Our Flex ap

Re: Overly large classes (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-15 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/15/2012 2:37 PM, David Arno wrote: To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource I think it should be clarified that a class or function with what we would determine is a high number of lines of code does not mean that its an indicator of crap code.

Re: Did Flex lost contact to its investors?

2012-01-15 Thread Omar Gonzalez
I think that the Apache Flex blog that was set up this week can fill that need. That said, I don't think you necessarily need to go through this list if you wanted to start a Flex application showcase website. -omar

AS3 and the AVM are two different things (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-15 Thread David Arno
> From: Jonathan Campos [mailto:jonbcam...@gmail.com] > Sent: 15 January 2012 19:11 > We have control of the SDK, not the language. > The language as part of the AVM is still controlled by Adobe. You are mistaken Jonathan. The AVM runs byte code, not AS3. The compiler (which is part of the SDK

Re: Did Flex lost contact to its investors?

2012-01-15 Thread Ivan Ilijašić
2012/1/15 João Saleiro > Jokes apart, this topic is quite interesting. I have no doubts that Flex > will thrive from the technological point of view - we are here on this > mailing list with that purpose in mind. > But what about perception? It's not up to the Apache Foundation to manage > PR (or

Overly large classes (was Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource)

2012-01-15 Thread David Arno
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource > I think it should be clarified that a class or function with what we > would determine is a high number of lines of code does not mean > that its an indicator of crap code. I disagree. From experience th

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:17 PM, FRANKLIN GARZON wrote: > I suggest, keep AVM in Adobe until Apache delivery their first version, so > we can see the potential of Flex community and contributors to build > ApacheFlex.So me question is: who has the ability to enable more OS for > mobile apps? Apach

RE: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread FRANKLIN GARZON
I suggest, keep AVM in Adobe until Apache delivery their first version, so we can see the potential of Flex community and contributors to build ApacheFlex.So me question is: who has the ability to enable more OS for mobile apps? Apache or Adobe? (windows phone is grown to quickly, we need into

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:15 PM, David Arno wrote: > In what way isn't what I said 100% true? Who other than Apache Flex > committers will get to choose what the future of the Flex language is? > We have control of the SDK, not the language. The language as part of the AVM is still controlled b

Re: Did Flex lost contact to its investors?

2012-01-15 Thread João Saleiro
On 15-01-2012 07:27, jude wrote: Next time someone says use HTML5 say, "HEY who's the expert in technology here? Me or you?". Then say, "...that's what I thought" as you walk away with explosions or something like that going off in the background... You can either do that or force them to rea

Re: Did Flex lost contact to its investors?

2012-01-15 Thread jude
I was joking sortof. It's there job to tell us about what there are trying to do which can be different than what they want or think they want). I bring it up because Joe startup read or oh JavaFX or Silverlight was better than Flash on engadget and now wants his intranet rewritten in it. On Sund

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Amit Goel
I beg pardon to disagree David Arno on: who gives a shit about a 250 extra bytes in a SWF?! I had times when I was required to produce the reason to my client whenever my subsequent release build of Flex swf increased by 1K. So that means I need to clarify my client that 4 interfaces have been adde

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Peter Elst
I think the discussion is going on a bit of a tangent - maybe worth renaming the topic if you want to continue it? - Peter

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Omar Gonzalez
8000 lines of code isn't any better than 16000 when the class drives every single component that is put on screen. Alex said it best when he said something along the lines of it being like trying to run fast with really heavy shoes. I've never written a class over 500 lines of code and felt good ab

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread jude
I think it should be clarified that a class or function with what we would determine is a high number of lines of code does not mean that its an indicator of crap code. If you go by line numbers then anyone who places the opening brace on the next line will have at least 25% more lines than someone

Re: Non-core code, contrib and samples (was: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications...)

2012-01-15 Thread Anne Kathrine Petterøe
On 15 January 2012 11:25, Sebastian Mohr wrote: > @Bertrand > > Would there be any legal issues when using > third party Opensource libraries in these Apache > Flex code examples? > > Here are some Opensource-Microarchitectures > which are commonly used when building Flex apps: > > Cairngorm 2, Ca

RE: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread David Arno
>> Whilst Adobe will own the specification of ActionScript 3, we will own >> the mxmlc and falcon compilers. We therefore get to choose what >> changes we make to the language that Flex is written in. If our >> changes require us to rename the language to ApacheScript or some such, then so be it

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Omar Gonzalez
> Also, every byte matters. You say "who gives a shit about a 250 extra bytes > in a SWF?!". I say this guy and many others. Many people are pushing for a > smaller lighter framework, not a bigger one. > I hear what you're saying, Jon, but honestly, the framework is not going to get any smaller by

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Erik Lundgren
"Flex 3 to Flex 4 was a small change compared with what many of us are planning for Apache Flex: an interface, composition & DI-based framework written in AS3++ targeting JavaScript and HTML5 no less." Davids comment made me want to hear more! What will people be working on as the project progr

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:01 AM, David Arno wrote: > Whilst Adobe will own the specification of ActionScript 3, we will own the > mxmlc and falcon compilers. We therefore get to choose what changes we make > to the language that Flex is written in. If our changes require us to > rename the langu

[LOGO] ritesh

2012-01-15 Thread Ritesh
Hi Mike, As i do not have any web space to share the files , thats why i used freespace from web may be due to that you are getting "Hotlinking Error "[ bloked by firewalls] Now i have uploaded logos n source on google docs hope you will able to view them. Let me know if face issue again * **Apac

Re: Compiler optimization for getter/setter

2012-01-15 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/15/12 4:19 AM, "jude" wrote: > What situation does "...force all the getters to be re-evaluated?" Stopping in the debugger with the object referenced in the context. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

RE: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread FRANKLIN GARZON
We will review the possibility to join maybe 1 developer full time into Apache Flex contributor from us, I will propose to our CEO. I will know some weeks later if this is possbile. Franklin Garzón Regional Development Manager MCTS - MCITP Microsoft SQLServer 2005 *Si el hombre dejara d

Re: [VOTE] PPMC members to decide voting procedure

2012-01-15 Thread Scott Delamater
I hope I don't come across as snippy, but is it normal to have a lot of discussion within a VOTE thread? It seems to turn that VOTE callout into a false alarm. Just wondering about typical procedures. sD On Jan 15, 2012 2:39 AM, "Peter Elst" wrote: > > Because I have created a Apache Flex Logo

RE: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread David Arno
From: Amit Goel [mailto:agoel@gmail.com] Sent: 15 January 2012 06:41 > Adobe will be donating the Flex SDK, and not the AVM/playerglobals etc. > So Adobe will continue to own the legacy on Flash and it's heart - > ActionScript/AVM. Adobe will continue to own and control the flash players a

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr #2

2012-01-15 Thread Martin Heidegger
Michael, I found previews on the google code page. Are they not enough? Cheers Martin. On 15/01/2012 23:48, Michael Schmalle wrote: Sebastian, The rules state a png/jpg preview and a ZIP which just means source/archive. All other 18 entries have managed to supply a URL to a preview. I can

[LOGO] András Csizmadia #2

2012-01-15 Thread Andras Csizmadia
Hi, I've made a second sketch: http://www.vpmedia.eu/get/asf/apache_flex-logo_contest_acsizmadia_2012-v2.png http://www.vpmedia.eu/get/asf/apache_flex-logo_contest_acsizmadia_2012-v2.zip -- Just some comment for other designers: I don't think it's a good idea to use ASF branding in the Apache

Re: [Logo] Sebastian Mohr #2

2012-01-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
Sebastian, The rules state a png/jpg preview and a ZIP which just means source/archive. All other 18 entries have managed to supply a URL to a preview. I cannot in good faith of the rules post a link to your wiki. Basically since all other contestants have complied with the rule, I will

Re: [LOGO] ritesh

2012-01-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
I'm getting a "Hotlinking Error " cannot view the logos. Mike Quoting Ritesh : Hi All, My submission for apache flex logo PNGs http://www.riteshubha.freewebpages.org/ApacheFlex_logo_Option-One.png http://www.riteshubha.freewebpages.org/ApacheFlex_logo_Option-Three.png http://www.riteshubha

Re: Did Flex lost contact to its investors?

2012-01-15 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/15/2012 2:27 AM, jude wrote: It's not their job to tell us what technology to use. You've never worked for an Enterprise client, have you? While some clients may be oblivious they have no problem choosing technologies and forcing them on the developers. [Sometimes w/o developer input]

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Raju Bitter
Amit, I've voiced my concerns around the runtime a few times, both in the incubator mailing lists, and in this mailing list. http://old.nabble.com/-PROPOSAL--Flex-for-Apache-Incubator-to33005429.html#a33012665 http://markmail.org/search/?q=+list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.flex-dev+avm Roy Fielding sa

Re: Non-core code, contrib and samples (was: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications...)

2012-01-15 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Sebastian Mohr wrote: > For the moment, I doubt that it is time- and cost-effective > build large-scale Flex apps (e.g. more then 250 MXML files) > without the use of third-party Microarchitectures. Therefore, > I would only contribute code which shows the usage w

Re: [LOGO] Denis Kristianto

2012-01-15 Thread Denis Kristianto
@Pablo Thanks pablo..:) 2012/1/14 Jesus Pablo Macedo Rodriguez > Hello guys! Here is my vote! > > - *Preview:* http://omdenis.com/files/apache_flex2.png > - *Zip:* http://omdenis.com/files/apache_flex.ai2.zip > > Greetings from Mexico :) >

Re: Non-core code, contrib and samples (was: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications...)

2012-01-15 Thread Peter Elst
> > Be careful guys. Remember that if this is what he wants to work on he can. > We all can vote if these projects go into our samples rather than his > sandbox later. > Absolutely, good point to make. I'm just giving my own perspective but anyone is obviously free to work on whatever he/she want

Re: Non-core code, contrib and samples (was: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications...)

2012-01-15 Thread Jonathan Campos
> I agree. We should to the best of our abilities focus on just Flex right > now. Be careful guys. Remember that if this is what he wants to work on he can. We all can vote if these projects go into our samples rather than his sandbox later. We can't dictate what people work on, only what we acce

Re: Compiler optimization for getter/setter

2012-01-15 Thread jude
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Tink wrote: > If you don't specify a custom event (which IMO is lazy), it still > shouldn't run all the getters, as when the PropertyChangeEvent is caught, > the value of 'event.property' is checked. If the string matches the name of > the property that the code i

Re: Compiler optimization for getter/setter

2012-01-15 Thread Tink
I'm not saying we shouldn't optimize, the point of my response was to clarify how it currently works, True, unless the handler is inefficiently written, we all know that any code that is inefficiently written isn't good. but even then, the handler is pounded an awful lot and it would b

Re: Non-core code, contrib and samples (was: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications...)

2012-01-15 Thread Rui Silva
> Can't speak to any legal issues but personally I'd prefer generic plain > vanilla Flex code examples rather than examples of various > microarchitectures, trying to keep those in sync as they change and ending > up with more support questions about the third party implementations than > the ac

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Amit Goel
Could you pls provide me link where this runtime has been discussed? I am sorry I missed that, probably I was not subscribed to this list that time. On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Peter Elst wrote: > > I have full faith on Apache Flex, but not on Adobe any more! > > > I don't really get the po

Re: Non-core code, contrib and samples (was: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications...)

2012-01-15 Thread Sebastian Mohr
Sorry ... me German ... here the last sentence again: If there would be a gathering of another team which could prove that building large-scale Flex apps is [also] affordable [without the usage of Microarchitectures], then, I would be happy to see their code in the Apache Flex "samples" folder.

Re: Non-core code, contrib and samples (was: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications...)

2012-01-15 Thread Sebastian Mohr
For the moment, I doubt that it is time- and cost-effective build large-scale Flex apps (e.g. more then 250 MXML files) without the use of third-party Microarchitectures. Therefore, I would only contribute code which shows the usage with Microarchitectures. And when a Microarchitecture needs to

Re: Non-core code, contrib and samples (was: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications...)

2012-01-15 Thread Peter Elst
> Would there be any legal issues when using > third party Opensource libraries in these Apache > Flex code examples? > > Here are some Opensource-Microarchitectures Can't speak to any legal issues but personally I'd prefer generic plain vanilla Flex code examples rather than examples of various

Non-core code, contrib and samples (was: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications...)

2012-01-15 Thread Sebastian Mohr
@Bertrand Would there be any legal issues when using third party Opensource libraries in these Apache Flex code examples? Here are some Opensource-Microarchitectures which are commonly used when building Flex apps: Cairngorm 2, Cairngorm License, MIT License ... http://sourceforge.net/adobe/c

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Peter Elst
> I have full faith on Apache Flex, but not on Adobe any more! I don't really get the point of this thread, if you're talking about runtime dependency its been discussed at great length - we're here to move the Flex SDK forward not to bash Adobe. Regardless of your opinion about Adobe, their str

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Amit Goel
I have full faith on Apache Flex, but not on Adobe any more! On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Amit Goel wrote: > Well I think there might be other words to say it, but Adobe has to do > that. > > @Omar: > Sure we all need to stay positive about it. Apache Flex community will > take the Flex SDK

Re: [VOTE] PPMC members to decide voting procedure

2012-01-15 Thread Peter Elst
> Because I have created a Apache Flex Logo proposal > myself I should NOT be able to [VOTE] - even though I am > PPMC member. IMHO the same rule should apply to other > [LOGO] creators, too. > I guess that is assuming PPMC members would vote for their own proposal, don't think that is necessaril

Re: [VOTE] PPMC members to decide voting procedure

2012-01-15 Thread Sebastian Mohr
Because I have created a Apache Flex Logo proposal myself I should NOT be able to [VOTE] - even though I am PPMC member. IMHO the same rule should apply to other [LOGO] creators, too. -- Sebastian On Jan 15, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Matthew Poole wrote: > I saw your post and figured you'd got my

Re: GPU / DisplayList / Future of Flex

2012-01-15 Thread Matthew Poole
Ah focus too. That does pretty much destroy any accessibility, we'd have to be very careful as reputationally poor support for accessibility would be bad (as we've seen historically) On 15 January 2012 07:05, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/14/12 1:55 AM, "Matthew Poole" wrote: > > > are you thi

Re: [VOTE] PPMC members to decide voting procedure

2012-01-15 Thread Matthew Poole
I saw your post and figured you'd got my meaning. Thanks Matt On 14 January 2012 23:01, Michael Schmalle wrote: > > BTW, > > Doug brought this up today and you might have read the post. I wrote a > thread called [LOGO INFO] replying to the group. I didn't quite address > your real issue (multip

[Logo] Sebastian Mohr #2

2012-01-15 Thread Sebastian Mohr
Due to the request of some people asking to have different color versions of my logo proposal, I decided to to create a Flex app in which you can change the colors and the style of my Apache Flex Logo proposal: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/352808/code/ApacheFlexLogo/index.html The source code of

Re: [LOGO] Carlos Rovira

2012-01-15 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi, right. This is only a proposal like the contest rules say and is only a path to follow. Final versión should come for the winner. Arrow cuts are in some designs only to show a possible variation. For The logo I think it should not necesary have tipical motivs of flex until now (The F and X). T

[LOGO] ritesh

2012-01-15 Thread Ritesh
Hi All, My submission for apache flex logo PNGs http://www.riteshubha.freewebpages.org/ApacheFlex_logo_Option-One.png http://www.riteshubha.freewebpages.org/ApacheFlex_logo_Option-Three.png http://www.riteshubha.freewebpages.org/ApacheFlex_logo_Option-Two.png Source Zip https://docs.google.com

Re: apache flex logo

2012-01-15 Thread Ritesh
Hi All, My submission for apache flex logo PNGs http://www.riteshubha.freewebpages.org/ApacheFlex_logo_Option-One.png http://www.riteshubha.freewebpages.org/ApacheFlex_logo_Option-Three.png http://www.riteshubha.freewebpages.org/ApacheFlex_logo_Option-Two.png Source Zip https://docs.google.com

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Amit Goel
Well I think there might be other words to say it, but Adobe has to do that. @Omar: Sure we all need to stay positive about it. Apache Flex community will take the Flex SDK forward, and the time is gonna tell that. Long Live Apache Flex! -- Thanks, Amit Goel On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Ale

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/14/12 11:54 PM, "Amit Goel" wrote: > I believe that point of going opensource is just that Adobe wants to get > rid of it. Hmm. Not sure what you mean by that, but there is probably a cheaper way to "get rid" of Flex than to pay me and others to continue to work on it. > No body needs a

Re: Flex incubation on Apache as Opensource

2012-01-15 Thread Omar Gonzalez
I can't tell if Amit is a strong Flex supporter (as stated in his email) or if Amit thinks it is a lame SDK (as stated in his email). Either way, the Apache Flex community will decide what the future of Flex will become, and I have a strong feeling it will be with or without the AVM. Either way it