Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-15 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 14 Dec 2014 23:56:02 Chris Dennis wrote: > I know I'm very late to this party, but has anyone tried this Skype > alternative? > > https://appear.in/ > > It uses WebRTC, and claims to be "secure". It's good to know about all these different tools, although this one appears to be v

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-15 Thread Stephen Wolff
Just tried it with a couple of collegues in the Netherlands, and it worked a treat. No setup (in latest Chrome - Ubuntu and OSX) Thanks! On 14/12/2014 23:56, Chris Dennis wrote: > I know I'm very late to this party, but has anyone tried this Skype > alternative? > > https://appear.in/ > > It

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-14 Thread Chris Dennis
I know I'm very late to this party, but has anyone tried this Skype alternative? https://appear.in/ It uses WebRTC, and claims to be "secure". Cheers Chris -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-01-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New threa

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-09 Thread Terry Coles
On Monday 08 Dec 2014 19:20:55 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > I've worked it out. > > Good. > > > The Mozilla crew didn't enable it by default for all users because > > they didn't want everyone hammering their servers at once (Google for > > 'How to enable Firefox Hello'). > > > > You have to do a b

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-08 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > > > I've found https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8683830 which > > > suggests you need to enable it in 34! > > > > I tried, but it isn't in the list of Add-ons. Maybe it is because > > Kubuntu's V34.0 is different to the raw one? > > I've worked it out. Good. > The Mozilla crew

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-08 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 16:58:13 Terry Coles wrote: > On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 16:45:16 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > > I have Firefox 34.0 installed here and it doesn't have Hello. > > > > 35 improves on 34's Hello. So says > > http://thenextweb.com/apps/2014/12/04/firefox-35-beta-arrives-updated-hell >

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-08 Thread Terry Coles
On Monday 08 Dec 2014 16:29:54 Terry Coles wrote: > On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 21:42:54 Stephen Wolff wrote: > > Have you tried Google Hangouts out of interest - had some better > > experiences (video-wise) than with Skype for work calls fairly recently > > - with multiple people (ie conference type) us

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-08 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 21:42:54 Stephen Wolff wrote: > Have you tried Google Hangouts out of interest - had some better > experiences (video-wise) than with Skype for work calls fairly recently > - with multiple people (ie conference type) using a mixed bag of OSs (ie > Ubuntu, OSX, Win7). Might be

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Stephen Wolff
Have you tried Google Hangouts out of interest - had some better experiences (video-wise) than with Skype for work calls fairly recently - with multiple people (ie conference type) using a mixed bag of OSs (ie Ubuntu, OSX, Win7). Might be worth a shot given Google are reasonably OS agnostic? On 07

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 16:45:16 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > I have Firefox 34.0 installed here and it doesn't have Hello. > > 35 improves on 34's Hello. So says > http://thenextweb.com/apps/2014/12/04/firefox-35-beta-arrives-updated-hello-> > plugin-free-video-chat-functionality/ and > http://www.g

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > I assume that the extra 850 kbps is the resends. I think $ netstat -s | grep "segments retransmited" 27 segments retransmited will show you those. You can keep an eye on it over time, untested. l= while :; do sr=`netstat -s | sed -n 's/ segments retrans

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > > > > http://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2014/10/16/test-the-new-firefox-hello-webrtc-feature-in-firefox-beta/ > > > > > In fact, it will be Firefox 35 that will support the 'Hello' > > > feature with video conferencing. The link in the page that you > > > cited is to the beta do

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 16:13:50 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi Terry, > > > Well it doesn't and I've now worked out that I probably need an uplink > > speed of at least 1 Mbps to use Skype with the low-res camera and 4 > > Mbps to use it with the hi-res one. I have about 480 kbps. > > Is that based

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 16:08:23 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi Terry, > > > > Was Firefox 34 any use? Mentioned in an off-list email to you > > > yesterday. It includes this feature from October: > > > http://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2014/10/16/test-the-new-firefox-h > > > ello-webrtc-feature-

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > Well it doesn't and I've now worked out that I probably need an uplink > speed of at least 1 Mbps to use Skype with the low-res camera and 4 > Mbps to use it with the hi-res one. I have about 480 kbps. Is that based on non-compression of the video stream? https://en.wikipedia.org/wi

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > > Was Firefox 34 any use? Mentioned in an off-list email to you > > yesterday. It includes this feature from October: > > http://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2014/10/16/test-the-new-firefox-hello-webrtc-feature-in-firefox-beta/ ... > In fact, it will be Firefox 35 that will suppor

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 07 Dec 2014 14:04:32 Peter Merchant wrote: > That webcam looks just like the one that I got from the market for 50 > pence a few weeks ago, that I opened up and it did not have a microphone > in it. did you have to add the string env > LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1com

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Peter Merchant
On 06/12/14 17:00, Terry Coles wrote: On Friday 05 Dec 2014 16:56:31 Terry Coles wrote: After a bit of Googling, I managed to get the Creative CT6840 working with Cheese, QTox and Venom, but not Skype ;-( I'm seriously considering trying to get my hands on a low-res webcam from Maplin or PC Wor

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 06 Dec 2014 17:00:00 Terry Coles wrote: > So what I have is video from the Trust and audio from the Logitech and Skype > seems to work fine. I've only tested it over our internal network so far, > but there was zero packet loss and crystal clear video and sound. Well the news is not b

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-06 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 05 Dec 2014 16:56:31 Terry Coles wrote: > After a bit of Googling, I managed to get the Creative CT6840 working with > Cheese, QTox and Venom, but not Skype ;-( > > I'm seriously considering trying to get my hands on a low-res webcam from > Maplin or PC World. The trouble is, all the lo

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-06 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 05 Dec 2014 21:22:02 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > After a bit of Googling, I managed to get the Creative CT6840 working > > with Cheese, QTox and Venom, but not Skype ;-( > > Was Firefox 34 any use? Mentioned in an off-list email to you > yesterday. It includes this feature from October:

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-05 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > After a bit of Googling, I managed to get the Creative CT6840 working > with Cheese, QTox and Venom, but not Skype ;-( Was Firefox 34 any use? Mentioned in an off-list email to you yesterday. It includes this feature from October: http://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2014/10/16/te

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-05 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday 04 Dec 2014 19:33:53 Peter Merchant wrote: > One of the webcams that I could not get working on Skype was identified > as an ov_519. After a bit of Googling, I managed to get the Creative CT6840 working with Cheese, QTox and Venom, but not Skype ;-( I'm seriously considering trying t

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-04 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday 04 Dec 2014 19:33:53 Peter Merchant wrote: > > A bit more info snipped from modprobe: > > Module Size Used by > > . > > gspca_ov51948736 0 > > gspca_main 36735 1 gspca_ov519 > > uvcvideo 81065 0 > > videobuf2_vmalloc 13216

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-04 Thread Peter Merchant
On 04/12/14 19:23, Terry Coles wrote: On Thursday 04 Dec 2014 17:52:43 Terry Coles wrote: When I plug it in the system doesn't seem to recognise it as a video camera but I get this from dmesg: [ 1510.740065] usb 5-2: new full-speed USB device number 5 using ohci-pci [ 1510.901122] usb 5-2: New U

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-04 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday 04 Dec 2014 17:52:43 Terry Coles wrote: > When I plug it in the system doesn't seem to recognise it as a video camera > but I get this from dmesg: > [ 1510.740065] usb 5-2: new full-speed USB device number 5 using ohci-pci > [ 1510.901122] usb 5-2: New USB device found, idVendor=05a9, i

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-12-04 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 10 Aug 2014 16:01:38 Terry Coles wrote: > I just tried to use V 4.3.0 for the first time (Kubuntu 14.04; delivered by > update) and it is just about unusable when the video is on. Here are the > symptoms: > 1. Remote user complains about video freezing and voice garbled. > 2. Video an

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-10 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 10 Aug 2014 17:03:37 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > http://community.skype.com/t5/Windows-desktop-client/Skype-and-increased-ban > dwidth-usage/td-p/3057790 suggests you can't limit the quality of the video > used; the best the bandwidth can cope with is chosen. > > https://support.skype.com/e

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-10 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > 4. Send network bandwidth approx 27 kBytes per second, which is about > what the Internet bandwidth tools tell me I have available on this > connection today. > > It seems to me that the new version takes every ounce of bandwidth it > can get, with no cognizance taken of the bandwidt

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-10 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 08 Aug 2014 13:57:16 Simon P Smith wrote: > >> You need to download the 4.3 .deb from the skype web site. The 4.2 > >> version does not work with the authentication API anymore. It cut me > >> off in the middle of a call! > > Glad it worked - it also seems to have fixed the pulse audio

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-08 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 08 Aug 2014 13:28:32 Terry Coles wrote: > Maybe they decided to withdraw that update. Answering myself. I thought it odd that I hadn't seen any updates for nearly a week so I launched the updater manually. Sure enough, there were a whole raft of updates to be applied, including *Skyp

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-08 Thread Simon P Smith
On 07/08/14 20:55, Peter Merchant wrote: > Peter, >> >> You need to download the 4.3 .deb from the skype web site. The 4.2 >> version does not work with the authentication API anymore. It cut me >> off in the middle of a call! >> >> Simon >> > Thanks Simon, That got everything working again. > Pe

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-08 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday 07 Aug 2014 20:41:45 Peter Merchant wrote: > On 07/08/14 17:22, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > /var/log/apt/history.log should say what packages have been upgraded > > recently? > OK, It's 14.04 that I am on. Here's the history log (Thanks Ralph), it > looks like no newlines! > start-Date:

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-07 Thread Peter Merchant
On 07/08/14 17:42, Simon P Smith wrote: On 06/08/14 17:23, PeterMerchant wrote: Hi, Be careful of Skype. I have just done some updates on Kubuntu 14.10, which required a reboot, and now I cannot log into skype. It won't recognize my password. Peter, You need to download the 4.3 .deb from the

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-07 Thread Peter Merchant
On 07/08/14 17:22, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Terry, Can you remember what the updates were? Skype's working here on 14.10, but I haven't seen any updates today (yet). /var/log/apt/history.log should say what packages have been upgraded recently? Cheers, Ralph. OK, It's 14.04 that I am on. He

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-07 Thread Simon P Smith
On 06/08/14 17:23, PeterMerchant wrote: > Hi, Be careful of Skype. I have just done some updates on Kubuntu > 14.10, which required a reboot, and now I cannot log into skype. It > won't recognize my password. > Peter, You need to download the 4.3 .deb from the skype web site. The 4.2 version do

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > > Can you remember what the updates were? Skype's working here on > > 14.10, but I haven't seen any updates today (yet). /var/log/apt/history.log should say what packages have been upgraded recently? Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Ma

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Thursday 07 Aug 2014 16:58:10 Terry Coles wrote: > On Wednesday 06 Aug 2014 17:23:22 PeterMerchant wrote: > > Hi, Be careful of Skype. I have just done some updates on Kubuntu 14.10, > > which required a reboot, and now I cannot log into skype. It won't > > recognize my password. > > Can you re

Re: [Dorset] Skype

2014-08-07 Thread Terry Coles
On Wednesday 06 Aug 2014 17:23:22 PeterMerchant wrote: > Hi, Be careful of Skype. I have just done some updates on Kubuntu 14.10, > which required a reboot, and now I cannot log into skype. It won't > recognize my password. Can you remember what the updates were? Skype's working here on 14.10, bu

[Dorset] Skype

2014-08-07 Thread PeterMerchant
Hi, Be careful of Skype. I have just done some updates on Kubuntu 14.10, which required a reboot, and now I cannot log into skype. It won't recognize my password. Cheers, Peter -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-27 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 26 Apr 2013 19:08:29 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > It seems to be telling me that the only version available is the one > > installed. > > Yes, it would, I forgot you'd moved up to the latest 13.04 release of > Ubuntu, sorry. > > You're probably getting the package from > http://archive.can

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-26 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > terry@BEIGE:~$ sudo apt-show-versions -a -R -p ^skype > skype 4.1.0.20.0-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 install ok installed > skype 4.1.0.20.0-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 raring archive.canonical.com > skype/raring uptodate 4.1.0.20.0-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 > skype-bin 4.1.0.20.0-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 install ok install

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-26 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 26 Apr 2013 16:52:46 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > > sudo apt-show-versions -a -R -p ^skype > > > > Hmm. that command is returned not found. > > It's from package `apt-show-versions'. I thought Ubuntu had a `command > not found' handler set up in bash that would tell you the command wasn'

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-26 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > > sudo apt-show-versions -a -R -p ^skype > > Hmm. that command is returned not found. It's from package `apt-show-versions'. I thought Ubuntu had a `command not found' handler set up in bash that would tell you the command wasn't found, what you may have intended, and in what packa

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-26 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday 26 Apr 2013 15:04:44 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > sudo apt-show-versions -a -R -p ^skype Hmm. that command is returned not found. I've tried apropos as many combinations of apt / show / version as I can think of and no-show. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-26 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > I'd like to try rolling Skype back to an earlier version, which is > alleged to work. The trouble is that the various pages I've found > just say to do just that without any guidance on what to do. Is Skype currently from a package from a repository, e.g. the Canonical `partner' one,

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-25 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 18:31:56 Natalie Hooper wrote: > My guess would be nvidia, as it's a video driver so it could impact on > whether a camera is found or not (if driver doesn't recognise your > camera anymore for example or if driver sends to Skype some > incompatibility signals). Well after

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-16 Thread Terry Coles
On Tuesday 16 Apr 2013 00:36:41 CPK Smithies wrote: > If it would help, I have at home two working 64-bit Ubuntu installations > of Skype. (I was hoping that I had the installation package but alas > no.) I could e-mail the binary off list. I would also be glad to help > any LUG member who wishes t

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-15 Thread CPK Smithies
If it would help, I have at home two working 64-bit Ubuntu installations of Skype. (I was hoping that I had the installation package but alas no.) I could e-mail the binary off list. I would also be glad to help any LUG member who wishes to test Skype. My ID is CPKS00. Kindest regards to all, Chr

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-14 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 14 Apr 2013 16:25:13 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > http://community.skype.com/t5/Video-on-Windows/New-Skype-version-6-3-video-d > oes-not-work-anymore-again-with/td-p/1503746 and > http://community.skype.com/t5/Video-on-Windows/My-webcam-stop-working-after- > the-latest-update-to-skype/m-p/1508

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-14 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > An interesting development. My mother called this morning and it > turns out that video has stopped working for her too! Although she > used to run Linux on her Asus netbook, she now runs W7 on her HP > laptop. http://community.skype.com/t5/Video-on-Windows/New-Skype-version-6-3-vid

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-14 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday 14 Apr 2013 12:26:37 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Does the camera have an activity LED? Does that light at all for Skype? > What about the `test webcam' bit of Skype I see mentioned? Yes, no and no it doesn't work in the Skype setup. An interesting development. My mother called this mornin

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-14 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > Just to be on the safe side, I installed qv4l2 and ran it. I was able > to activate the webcam inside that, but still not inside skype. Does the camera have an activity LED? Does that light at all for Skype? What about the `test webcam' bit of Skype I see mentioned? > All video cap

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-14 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 21:11:45 Peter Merchant wrote: > And with our friend google, discovered a forum entry that suggested I > try the following string. I had to stop skype first, and dig out the > password. > > sh -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so > /usr/bin/skype "$@"

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-14 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 18:31:56 Natalie Hooper wrote: > My guess would be nvidia, as it's a video driver so it could impact on > whether a camera is found or not (if driver doesn't recognise your > camera anymore for example or if driver sends to Skype some > incompatibility signals). I though nv

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-13 Thread Peter Merchant
On 13/04/13 19:13, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Terry, Natalie wrote: Start-Date: 2013-04-10 17:30:53 Upgrade: libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64 (9.0.2-0ubuntu0.1, 9.0.3-0ubuntu0.1), My guess would be nvidia It does stick out as a common culprit of all ills, doesn't it. :-) Do you have Cheese installed?

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-13 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, Natalie wrote: > > Start-Date: 2013-04-10 17:30:53 > > Upgrade: libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64 (9.0.2-0ubuntu0.1, 9.0.3-0ubuntu0.1), > > My guess would be nvidia It does stick out as a common culprit of all ills, doesn't it. :-) > Do you have Cheese installed? Does your video camera work in

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-13 Thread Natalie Hooper
On 13 April 2013 13:26, Terry Coles wrote: > On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 12:01:28 Ralph Corderoy wrote: >> Well, it may be that the fix wasn't for your combination of hardware or >> doesn't cover all the breakage in some other way. Could still be worth >> trying an old kernel that you still have from

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-13 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 12:01:28 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Well, it may be that the fix wasn't for your combination of hardware or > doesn't cover all the breakage in some other way. Could still be worth > trying an old kernel that you still have from when Skype did work. It doesn't look like it's

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-13 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > You obviously have a degree in Googling :-) I searched for a similar > problem and didn't find anything ;-( Perhaps it's just learnt the kind of things I "like" searching for. :-) > Just in case; how do I roll back to 3.5.0-23, which apparently works? > My /boot directory includes:

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-13 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 08:32:03 Terry Coles wrote: > That is almost certainly the problem; the kernel was updated to V 3.5.0-27 > two days ago and this is the first time I'd used it since then. It looks > like the previous update, to V 3.5.0-25, took place on the 9th. Apparently > V 3.5.0-26 fix

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-13 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 13 Apr 2013 00:36:00 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > What has changed to stop it working? :-) Perhaps /var/log/apt might > give a clue as to what packages have been upgraded since then, e.g. > kernel. I found > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1147729 which might > be rel

Re: [Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-12 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > Is anyone using Skype? On Kubuntu 12.10, video has suddenly stopped > working, although the webcam kernel module has been loaded and works > in other applications. > > When I try to enable video in Skype the list box says 'No device > found'. What has changed to stop it working? :-

[Dorset] Skype - No Video

2013-04-12 Thread Terry Coles
Hi, Is anyone using Skype? On Kubuntu 12.10, video has suddenly stopped working, although the webcam kernel module has been loaded and works in other applications. When I try to enable video in Skype the list box says 'No device found'. Any thoughts? -- Terry Coles