Ok, round two! https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/142117?lang=en :)
The AI survey is live again, it will require you to re-fill it out
unfortunately as the previous data couldn't be saved, and it would be a bit
useless anyway as the ranking question has now been replaced with what I
hope is a bet
Thank you all for the feedback, I hear what you're saying and the best
thing to do is to either scrap this initial survey and launch an updated
one that reflects people's preferences to not have AI in certain parts of
the project, or edit the ranking question to do this and make it more
explicit on
On 7/2/24 04:59, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> I guess how the question is phrased 'where do you feel like AI/ML has the
> best fit in Fedora' assumes the responder will choose where they feel it
> works best as top choice, and least-best (terrible English :) ) as last, so
> reviewers of the survey would
On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 11:53:22AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 09:17:55AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > I can't see how this helps understand the Fedora contributor's preferences
> > about the use of AI, when the survey is restricting the possible answers
> > to "y
On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 09:17:55AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> I can't see how this helps understand the Fedora contributor's preferences
> about the use of AI, when the survey is restricting the possible answers
> to "yes", "definitely yes", "very much yes". I would question the validity
>
On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 11:09:15AM +0100, Luis Correia wrote:
> I get that all conversations about AI/ML are controversial (at best)
>
> But I have just realised that there's even another, and worst, point of
> view:
> you can say that Fedora Council has already decided on using AI/ML going
> forw
I get that all conversations about AI/ML are controversial (at best)
But I have just realised that there's even another, and worst, point of
view:
you can say that Fedora Council has already decided on using AI/ML going
forward and only wants to know where implementing priorities will go...
Hope
*a terrible time with that question in particular
(Sorry, autocorrected and I didn't spot it before hitting send)
Aoife Moloney
Fedora Operations Architect
On Tue, Jul 2, 2024, 10:59 AM Aoife Moloney wrote:
> I guess how the question is phrased 'where do you feel like AI/ML has the
> best fit
I guess how the question is phrased 'where do you feel like AI/ML has the
best fit in Fedora' assumes the responder will choose where they feel it
works best as top choice, and least-best (terrible English :) ) as last, so
reviewers of the survey would likely assume 'oh the option
scored lowest, t
Aoife Moloney venit, vidit, dixit 2024-07-01 22:21:37:
> I disagree a little on the results to be meaningless just because the tone
> or phrasing is positive, particularly with the topic of AI because it is
> far too easy to list all the negatives associated with AI, and doing that
> doesn't move
On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 at 09:45, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 4:19 AM Daniel P. Berrangé
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 08:07:46PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> > > DJ & Tom - thank you for that clarification on how to interpret your
> > > ranking, and I can assure you and ot
On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 4:19 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 08:07:46PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> > DJ & Tom - thank you for that clarification on how to interpret your
> > ranking, and I can assure you and other folks who feel similar about
> > answering that question
On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 08:07:46PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> DJ & Tom - thank you for that clarification on how to interpret your
> ranking, and I can assure you and other folks who feel similar about
> answering that question that that is indeed the way we will be analysing
> the results - top
I found myself too in that situation, where I was forced to rank things
that I don't consider suitable at all. For example, my first and second
choice, I do mean it, ... my 3rd, not at all, however, it will count to
the result as a "3rd" choice, artificially.
I went ahead and clarified my choi
I disagree a little on the results to be meaningless just because the tone
or phrasing is positive, particularly with the topic of AI because it is
far too easy to list all the negatives associated with AI, and doing that
doesn't move the conversation forward. Structuring that question in this
ran
On 01/07/2024 20:07, Aoife Moloney wrote:
I would also like to add that we deliberately took a positive tone for
this survey as it is far too easy to find (many) negatives for AI (and
for good reason!), and we wanted to try to look at the benefits we could
get from AI instead if applied proper
DJ & Tom - thank you for that clarification on how to interpret your
ranking, and I can assure you and other folks who feel similar about
answering that question that that is indeed the way we will be analysing
the results - top ranked being best fit, 5th or last ranked being least or
worst fit. Al
I found the last question disappointing - it required me to rank five
options as to how well they fit in Fedora, without letting my say how
well I think each of them fit in Fedora. There was no way to say
"Doesn't fit" although I would have preferred they all be marked that
way.
Consider my answ
Survey: Please select at most 5 answers
User: Selects 2 answers
Survey: Please rank all items
User: Remembers why they hate surveys and gives up
To be clear as there are only two items where I think there is
any chance of AI being useful I am unable to rank the others.
Tom
On 01/07/2024 18:33,
Hi folks,
Thank you for contributing to our discussion on what kinds of questions are
useful for us to ask our community on the subject of AI in the Fedora
ecosystem [1]. We've created a short survey [2] based on the questions that
were proposed that we feel are general enough for everyone to feel
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