*a terrible time with that question in particular (Sorry, autocorrected and I didn't spot it before hitting send)
Aoife Moloney Fedora Operations Architect On Tue, Jul 2, 2024, 10:59 AM Aoife Moloney <amolo...@redhat.com> wrote: > I guess how the question is phrased 'where do you feel like AI/ML has the > best fit in Fedora' assumes the responder will choose where they feel it > works best as top choice, and least-best (terrible English :) ) as last, so > reviewers of the survey would likely assume 'oh the <something> option > scored lowest, that means people really don't see AI/ML as suiting that use > case so we shouldn't focus any energy on this option'. > > Like I said, it really is great feedback because the tone of the question, > while deliberately trying to be positive because this is such a > controversial topic in and of itself, didn't raise this issue of needing a > 'doesn't fit at all' option when the survey questions were reviewed before > going live, and that's something we can take forward for the contributors > survey too for question structuring. > > > > The only reluctance I have on scrapping this survey and changing that > question and then relaunching is that I don't want it to be spammy, because > I'm sure a lot of folks have already completed the current one and there's > still the contributor survey too to be launched, but if folks are having a > terrible that with that question I'm particular, then I will and hope you > give me another few mins of your day again to fill it back out :) > > > > Aoife Moloney > Fedora Operations Architect > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024, 10:03 AM Luis Correia <luis.f.corr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 at 09:45, Neal Gompa <ngomp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 4:19 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berra...@redhat.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 08:07:46PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: >>> > > DJ & Tom - thank you for that clarification on how to interpret your >>> > > ranking, and I can assure you and other folks who feel similar about >>> > > answering that question that that is indeed the way we will be >>> analysing >>> > > the results - top ranked being best fit, 5th or last ranked being >>> least or >>> > > worst fit. Also for anyone who has yet to complete the survey, the >>> last >>> > > question is an optional, free format answer so I would suggest using >>> that >>> > > to expand on reasons why you ranked certain areas #1, #2 etc for what >>> > > problems you see AI addressing in those parts of the project. >>> > > >>> > > I would also like to add that we deliberately took a positive tone >>> for this >>> > > survey as it is far too easy to find (many) negatives for AI (and >>> for good >>> > > reason!), and we wanted to try to look at the benefits we could get >>> from AI >>> > > instead if applied properly and wit the best interest of Fedora >>> driving the >>> > > use of AI in parts of the projects ecosystem. >>> > > >>> > > This survey is just trying to understand the preferences and wants >>> of the >>> > > Fedora community when it comes to AI, and not a guarantee that the >>> project >>> > > will be introducing AI in all of the mentioned areas. >>> > >>> > I can't see how this helps understand the Fedora contributor's >>> preferences >>> > about the use of AI, when the survey is restricting the possible >>> answers >>> > to "yes", "definitely yes", "very much yes". I would question the >>> validity >>> > of any actions taken / priorities set in Fedora based on results of >>> this >>> > survey. >>> > >>> >>> Indeed. This creates a skewed dataset because the questions you've >>> asked essentially prevent a set of responses from being captured. The >>> two choices people have are: pick the least worst option or just don't >>> participate in the survey. Neither of which are good things. >>> >>> >>> >> Continuing with a small comment: >> >> this looks like one of those Human Resources surveys where they only want >> to know if their performance is: >> . good >> . great >> . outstanding >> >> And as we know, it's actually none of those >> >> >> Luís >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Do not reply to spam, report it: >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >> >
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