Re: Hello, I have a question . . .

2020-09-23 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hello Peter, The latest release is 4.1.7 I am not sure what you tried. Have you tried Mark the section you want to copy, then Menue Edit pick Copy. Open Your Email Application and insert there as you are used by the email application. As an Alternative instead going through the menue you can

Hello, I have a question . . .

2020-09-23 Thread PETER LOVE
Hello, Dev: I have still another question concerning Open Office version 4.11 ( not quite sure of correct version but it's still pretty much the latest ) I'm trying to copy only a section of a document I wish to send to somebody, but when I copy and what I'm trying to duplicate shows up in

Re: a question about the hyphenator

2018-04-11 Thread toki
On 04/09/2018 06:46 AM, Mauro Trevisan wrote: > Hi, I would like to ask you if there are some documentation on the > hyphenation algorithm, particularly on the non-standard hyphenation and -- > mainly -- on the NEXTLEVEL keyword. a) I haven't looked at the code; b) This is from memory, based on

a question about the hyphenator

2018-04-09 Thread Mauro Trevisan
Hi, I would like to ask you if there are some documentation on the hyphenation algorithm, particularly on the non-standard hyphenation and -- mainly -- on the NEXTLEVEL keyword. I don't understand how it is used. It divides the patterns in two groups where the first is used in the hyphenation of a

Re: A question before I download

2017-03-23 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi Please don't ask any user questions on this list. This is the developer mailing list. Please go to https://forum.openoffice.org/ for this question, thanks! Regards, Raphael Am .03.2017, 23:02 Uhr, schrieb MISTY BLUE : Hi, I have an HP laptop that came with reduced-priced WORD Home comb

A question before I download

2017-03-23 Thread MISTY BLUE
Hi, I have an HP laptop that came with reduced-priced WORD Home combo (WORD, EXCEL, etc.) That one-year special is about to end and I'd really like to switch over to your software because of the high renewal price. I really only use word processing but I guess your download is everything just li

Hello, I have a question about rsc compiler & gbuild

2017-02-20 Thread 김재석
Hello, My name is jaeseok kim. I knew this e-mail address on fourm.openoffice.org/forum. And I have a few question about OpenOffice. I use openoffice source code in my project. But it is so difficult. So I need some helps. I want to convert the '.hrc/.src file' to the '.res file.' I know th

RE: FW: Internationalization of 4.1.2-patch1 (was RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat")

2016-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[Please cross-post all replies] Two localizations for the 4.1.2-patch1 hotfix are near completion. They are for German (de) and Nederlands (nl) (often "Dutch" in English). It would be very useful to have localizations in French, Italian, and Spanish, preferably by native speakers. NAMING

Re: FW: Internationalization of 4.1.2-patch1 (was RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat")

2016-08-22 Thread Dick Groskamp
Dutch translated files added to issue 127084 (https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127084) -- DiGro ___ Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 (Dutch) and scanned with Ziggo extended security (F-Secure)

RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat"

2016-08-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
this on post-4.1.2 releases :). Thanks again, There are some future utility cases where the parsing of text will be important. > -Original Message- > From: Oliver Brinzing [mailto:oliver.brinz...@gmx.de] > Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 00:12 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > S

RE: Internationalization of 4.1.2-patch1 (was RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat")

2016-08-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC to l10n list] > -Original Message- > From: Jörg Schmidt [mailto:joe...@j-m-schmidt.de] > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 15:32 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org > Subject: Re: Internationalization of 4.1.2-patch1 (was RE: a question > about &

RE: FW: Internationalization of 4.1.2-patch1 (was RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat")

2016-08-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
on of 4.1.2-patch1 (was RE: a > question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat") > > Op 20-8-2016 om 21:49 schreef Dennis E. Hamilton: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2- > > >patch1/hotfix.html > I've translated README, APPLY.bat (message

Re: FW: Internationalization of 4.1.2-patch1 (was RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat")

2016-08-21 Thread Dick Groskamp
Op 20-8-2016 om 21:49 schreef Dennis E. Hamilton: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2- >patch1/hotfix.html I've translated README, APPLY.bat (messages) and REVERT.bat (messages) into Dutch I've adjusted the page Jörg made at CWIKI with a table to register translations. T

Re: Internationalization of 4.1.2-patch1 (was RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat")

2016-08-21 Thread Marcus
x27;s see for the feedback. Thanks Marcus [...] -Original Message- From: Jörg Schmidt [mailto:joe...@j-m-schmidt.de] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 01:53 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat" Hello, Maybe, i would like to

Re: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat"

2016-08-21 Thread Oliver Brinzing
Hi, Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 *does* *not* install hwp.dll. It should not be there. wouldn't it be better to check the "version.ini" instead of hwp.dll ? an upcoming aoo420 release will not contain hwp.dll too ... for example, something like this: @echo off setlocal FOR /F "tokens=1,2 delims=

Re: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat"

2016-08-20 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 *does* *not* install hwp.dll. It > should not be there. > > That is one of the ways that we can determine that the patch > is likely being applied to 4.1.2 and not an incorrect > version. hwp.dll was rem

Re: Internationalization of 4.1.2-patch1 (was RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat")

2016-08-20 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > All of the information on the release of 4.1.2-patch1, > including readmes and messages from the patch install and > uninstall scripts, is in English. See >

Internationalization of 4.1.2-patch1 (was RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat")

2016-08-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
n area of "Help Wanted" that would be valuable in support of the project. > -Original Message- > From: Jörg Schmidt [mailto:joe...@j-m-schmidt.de] > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 01:53 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: a question about &quo

RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat"

2016-08-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 09:09 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat" > > Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 *does* *not* ins

RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat"

2016-08-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Please confirm if that is the case. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Jörg Schmidt [mailto:joe...@j-m-schmidt.de] > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 01:53 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat" > > Hello,

a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat"

2016-08-20 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, Maybe, i would like to create a German-annotated version of patch, but I do not understand a line of APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat. What is the purpose of line: IF EXIST "%AOOPATCH%\hwp.dll" GOTO :FAIL2 I have an original version of AOO installed 4.1.2 and there is hwp.dll exists. But that do

Re: A Question about Open Office Password Protected Text Documents

2016-06-10 Thread Roger Bentley
Dear Ms Shanahan Thank you very much for your email and comments. They are greatly appreciated. Yours sincerely Roger Bentley -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 3:51 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: A Question about Open Office

Re: A Question about Open Office Password Protected Text Documents

2016-06-10 Thread Roger Bentley
Dear Mr Jovanovic Thank you very much for your email. Your reply is greatly appreciated. Thank you. With sincere regards Roger Bentley -Original Message- From: Damjan Jovanovic Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 3:29 PM To: Apache OO Subject: Re: A Question about Open Office Password

RE: A Question about Open Office Password Protected Text Documenets

2016-06-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:49 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: A Question about Open Office Password Protected Text > Documenets [ ... ] > # > > From a security perspecti

RE: A Question about Open Office Password Protected Text Documenets

2016-06-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
tions2/accelerator/current.xml, is completely known already. > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:55 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: A Question about Open Office Password Protected

RE: A Question about Open Office Password Protected Text Documenets

2016-06-10 Thread toki
Roger wrote: >Is there any likelihood in the future of any ‘redundancy’ or suchlike where >these documents would be no longer accessible by future then current software >etc? The presence or absence of a specific feature or function being on the roadmap, does not preclude it from being in a fu

RE: A Question about Open Office Password Protected Text Documenets

2016-06-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Damjan Jovanovic [mailto:dam...@apache.org] > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 07:29 > To: Apache OO > Subject: Re: A Question about Open Office Password Protected Text > Documenets > > Hi Roger > > If you saved them in OpenOffice&

Re: A Question about Open Office Password Protected Text Documenets

2016-06-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
That said, if I had a set of business-critical documents, I would test some sample documents at each major OS, hardware, or office software upgrade. Before decommissioning the last instance of the old system, load and read a few sample documents on the new system. If there is a problem, use the

Re: A Question about Open Office Password Protected Text Documenets

2016-06-10 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Hi Roger If you saved them in OpenOffice's default format, OpenDocument (.odt / .ods / .odb etc.), then yes. Password protection is part of the OpenDocument standard, and should be supported by us and other OpenDocument software such as AbiWord, Gnumeric, Microsoft Office, etc. for a long time. Th

A Question about Open Office Password Protected Text Documenets

2016-06-10 Thread Roger Bentley
Dear Sir/Madam I have a large number of important documents that I have created over the years in Open Office, which were created as password protected documents. Is there any likelihood in the future of any ‘redundancy’ or suchlike where these documents would be no longer accessible by future

A question about algorithm of basic module

2014-04-09 Thread Clarence GUO
Hi~ When I debug code for verifying VBA macros in a spreadsheet document, I find there are recursive calls in calling stack. Each time when basic code run to execute a macro step, finally it will send out a broadcast in order to get a value for a variable. But when basic module response the broadca

Re: A question

2013-09-15 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 13/09/13 00:55, David Stang a écrit : Hi David, > From the tone of messages, it appears to me that this could be something that > could be easily done with the database AOO has in their package. > > I have searched for solutions but have found no way to achieve this outcome. > Well, you c

Re: A question

2013-09-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 13/09/2013 David Stang wrote: For the last several years I have had a need to "blast" messages to a group of people. ... it appears to me that this could be something that could be easily done with the database AOO has in their package. You may review the "mail merge" functionality of OpenO

A question

2013-09-13 Thread David Stang
For the last several years I have had a need to "blast" messages to a group of people. An example might be, "A canoe broke loose from its mooring in a windstorm". And with a database of around 500 property owners a notice needs to be sent advising this issue. From the tone of messages, it ap

Re: A question about StarBasic

2013-09-03 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
Clarence, I assume that Jürgen was referring to objects that are part of AOO. In the example provided by Peter, creating an Excel.Sheet references an object that is not part of AOO, but it is known to Windows (if it works) and so AOO is able to find it. While you are running AOO, the objec

Re: A question about StarBasic

2013-09-02 Thread Clarence GUO
; > Juergen > > > > Clarence > > > > > > 2013/9/2 Peter Eberlein > > > >> > >> Hi Clarence, > >> Am 02.09.2013 08:47, schrieb Clarence GUO: > >> > >> Hi~ > >>> I'm totally green at StarBasic and VBA. Now

Re: A question about StarBasic

2013-09-02 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Clarence GUO wrote: > I'm totally green at StarBasic and VBA I suggest you read this. Since StarOffice was OpenOffice.org -w some addons- which is now AOO, it is totally relevant. http://toolkit.its.isu.edu/Documentation/StarOffice/StarOffice_Basic_Guide_en-US.PD

Re: A question about StarBasic

2013-09-02 Thread Fernand Vanrie
Hallo Peter , Hi Clarence, Am 02.09.2013 08:47, schrieb Clarence GUO: Hi~ I'm totally green at StarBasic and VBA. Now I have a question about CreateObject. I installed SAP and have below macros. Dim SapGuiAuto As Variant Set SapGuiAuto = CreateObject("SAPGUI") &quo

Re: A question about StarBasic

2013-09-02 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
here else. Juergen > Clarence > > > 2013/9/2 Peter Eberlein > >> >> Hi Clarence, >> Am 02.09.2013 08:47, schrieb Clarence GUO: >> >> Hi~ >>> I'm totally green at StarBasic and VBA. Now I have a question about >>> Creat

Re: A question about StarBasic

2013-09-02 Thread Clarence GUO
Thanks Peter, Yes Set SapGuiAuto = CreateObject("Excel.Sheet") works. Why "SAPGUI" must be an ActiveXObject? Is it by design? Clarence 2013/9/2 Peter Eberlein > > Hi Clarence, > Am 02.09.2013 08:47, schrieb Clarence GUO: > > Hi~ >> I'm to

Re: A question about StarBasic

2013-09-02 Thread Peter Eberlein
Hi Clarence, Am 02.09.2013 08:47, schrieb Clarence GUO: Hi~ I'm totally green at StarBasic and VBA. Now I have a question about CreateObject. I installed SAP and have below macros. Dim SapGuiAuto As Variant Set SapGuiAuto = CreateObject("SAPGUI") "SAPGUI" must be an

A question about StarBasic

2013-09-01 Thread Clarence GUO
Hi~ I'm totally green at StarBasic and VBA. Now I have a question about CreateObject. I installed SAP and have below macros. Dim SapGuiAuto As Variant Set SapGuiAuto = CreateObject("SAPGUI") But I got error "BASIC runtime error. '91' Module cannot be loaded;

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-22 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Donald Whytock > wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >>> My take away from the thread was that the preference is not to do > >>> a

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-21 Thread TJ Frazier
artitions". [1] <http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/User:TJFrazier/Reveal_Codes> /tj/ -Original Message- From: TJ Frazier [mailto:tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 02:10 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: A question about existing practices On 3/18/2013 11:12

RE: A question about existing practices

2013-03-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
zier [mailto:tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 02:10 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: A question about existing practices On 3/18/2013 11:12, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > ... > - Dennis > > PS: My all-time favorite unreconcilable voted-for issue i

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-21 Thread TJ Frazier
On 3/18/2013 11:12, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... - Dennis PS: My all-time favorite unreconcilable voted-for issue is the request for "Reveal Codes" in the manner of WordPerfect. Hi, Dennis, This is one of my favorites, too, and you might be of great help to my work. I read somewhere that

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-21 Thread Joost Andrae
Hi Rob, But whatever the reason, I think it demonstrates that vote counts from the earlier years are extremely difficult to compare fairly with recent vote counts. And the fact that we don't even have a formal RFE for iOS or Android, even though we get daily requests for this via other means is

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> My take away from the thread was that the preference is not to do >>> anything, and in effect continue to ignore the votes. Whether t

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> My take away from the thread was that the preference is not to do >> anything, and in effect continue to ignore the votes. Whether they >> are reset or ignored is immaterial to me. I'll

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 20/03/2013 22:03, Rob Weir a écrit : My take away from the thread was that the preference is not to do anything, and in effect continue to ignore the votes. Whether they are reset or ignored is immaterial to me. I'll just work on better and more accurate ways of getting user feedback, that a

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Donald Whytock
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > My take away from the thread was that the preference is not to do > anything, and in effect continue to ignore the votes. Whether they > are reset or ignored is immaterial to me. I'll just work on better > and more accurate ways of getting user

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: > Top post. > > Since it's rather clear that there will never be any agreement about this, > why doesn't PMC start a [Vote]? > This topic is eating energy for nothing. There is no point arguing > furthermore. > > If I understand correctly the pr

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Hagar Delest
Top post. Since it's rather clear that there will never be any agreement about this, why doesn't PMC start a [Vote]? This topic is eating energy for nothing. There is no point arguing furthermore. If I understand correctly the problem (even if it was not exactly the initial point from Jörg), t

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Donald Whytock
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > Now, if we had a way to get the detailed counts on issues, and do this > over time, then we could find a way of highlighting "trending issues", > e.g., those that have recently been getting more votes, or more > comments. (The number of users who

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: >>> >>> Is there a way to list bugs in order by the number of votes they've >>> received? I couldn't find "votes" in the axis fie

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Donald Whytock
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: >> >> Is there a way to list bugs in order by the number of votes they've >> received? I couldn't find "votes" in the axis fields under tabular >> reports. >> > > You can use the vote coun

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> I was curious to check my intuition on this. So with a bit of effort >> I was able to get the following data out of Bugzilla, showing the >> yearly percentage of enhancement or feature i

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Donald Whytock
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > I was curious to check my intuition on this. So with a bit of effort > I was able to get the following data out of Bugzilla, showing the > yearly percentage of enhancement or feature issue types have had at > least one vote. So it is showing for

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 3/20/13, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Andrea Pescetti > wrote: >> Hagar Delest wrote: >>> >>> if the votes are reset, I'll take it as a huge setback for the users >>> decisions >> >> >> Resetting votes does not make sense. There is a limit on how many bugs a >> user can v

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Joe Schaefer
; From: Rob Weir >To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:25 AM >Subject: Re: A question about existing practices > >On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Keith N. McKenna > wrote: >> Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:39

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: > Rob Weir wrote: >> >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Andrea Pescetti >> wrote: >>> >>> Hagar Delest wrote: if the votes are reset, I'll take it as a huge setback for the users decisions >>> >>> >>> >>> Resetting vot

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Hagar Delest wrote: if the votes are reset, I'll take it as a huge setback for the users decisions Resetting votes does not make sense. There is a limit on how many bugs a user can vote for and votes can be reallocated

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Joost Andrae wrote: > Hi Rob, > > maybe it has other reasons like missing access to the former OOo login on > the Apache infrastructure eg. one thing that went wrong with my OOo account. > But that doesn't explain the steady decline from 2002 to 2010, for example.

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Joost Andrae
Hi Rob, maybe it has other reasons like missing access to the former OOo login on the Apache infrastructure eg. one thing that went wrong with my OOo account. There could be several reasons for this: 1) Older issues are better issues because they were entered by smarter people. But then th

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Hagar Delest wrote: >> >> if the votes are reset, I'll take it as a huge setback for the users >> decisions > > > Resetting votes does not make sense. There is a limit on how many bugs a > user can vote for and votes can be reallocated, so

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Guenter Marxen wrote: > Hi, > > I have a little bit the impression, that Rob and Jürgen are not > understanding, what is meant. > > There is no demand, that special issues shouldt be resolved asap. > There is no demand, to give a date or release, when the issue is

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-19 Thread Guenter Marxen
Hi, I have a little bit the impression, that Rob and Jürgen are not understanding, what is meant. There is no demand, that special issues shouldt be resolved asap. There is no demand, to give a date or release, when the issue is resolved. There is only the wish, issues not to reset or to dele

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-19 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/19/13 5:04 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM, RGB ES wrote: >> 2013/3/19 Rob Weir >> >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Guenter Marxen >>> wrote: Hi, Am 18.03.2013 19:05, schrieb Dave Fisher: > There is no consensus here to eliminate or reset t

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM, RGB ES wrote: >> 2013/3/19 Rob Weir >> >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Guenter Marxen >>> wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > Am 18.03.2013 19:05, schrieb Dave Fisher: >>> > >>> >> There is no consensus here to

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM, RGB ES wrote: > 2013/3/19 Rob Weir > >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Guenter Marxen >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Am 18.03.2013 19:05, schrieb Dave Fisher: >> > >> >> There is no consensus here to eliminate or reset the votes. Some who are >> >> more in touch

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-19 Thread RGB ES
2013/3/19 Rob Weir > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Guenter Marxen > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Am 18.03.2013 19:05, schrieb Dave Fisher: > > > >> There is no consensus here to eliminate or reset the votes. Some who are > >> more in touch with users have stated that it would be harmful. I trust >

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Guenter Marxen wrote: > Hi, > > Am 18.03.2013 19:05, schrieb Dave Fisher: > >> There is no consensus here to eliminate or reset the votes. Some who are >> more in touch with users have stated that it would be harmful. I trust their >> judgement. > > > as a longtime

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 March 2013 01:21, Guenter Marxen wrote: > I always have accepted, that the lack of ressources/developers prevents to > solve some/many issues "in time", but I could hardly accept, that "old" > stuff in bugzilla is reset/deleted and hence forgotten. I think, that some > old users ("issuers")

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-19 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
...@apache.org] I'd say, "Thanks for the suggestion. We take all suggestions seriously, and user suggestions are often the source of ideas that make it into the product. Thank you for using AOO." Sounds fine for me. The title of the tread is "A question about existing prac

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Guenter Marxen
Hi, Am 18.03.2013 19:05, schrieb Dave Fisher: There is no consensus here to eliminate or reset the votes. Some who are more in touch with users have stated that it would be harmful. I trust their judgement. as a longtime "OpenOffice"-user (since StarWriter 2.0), I think that in this case, R

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dave Fisher wrote: There is no consensus here to eliminate or reset the votes. Some who are more in touch with users have stated that it would be harmful. I trust their judgement. Indeed. No reasons to elaborate further. We have votes in Bugzilla; we can only keep them and, in case we want to

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Dave Fisher
--Original Message- >>>>>>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd say, "Thanks for the suggestion. We take all suggestions >>>>>>> seriously, and user suggestions are often the s

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Dave Fisher
; >> - Dennis >> >> PS: My all-time favorite unreconcilable voted-for issue is the request for >> "Reveal Codes" in the manner of WordPerfect. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] >> Sent: Monday, Mar

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Rob Weir
he suggestion. We take all suggestions >>>>>>> seriously, and user suggestions are often the source of ideas that >>>>>>> make it into the product. Thank you for using AOO." >>>>>> >>>>>> Sounds fine for me.

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] >>>>> >>>>>> I'd say, "Thanks for the suggestion. We take all suggestions >>>>>> seriously, and user suggestions are ofte

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Rob Weir
t; From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] >> >> >> >> > I'd say, "Thanks for the suggestion. We take all suggestions >> >> > seriously, and user suggestions are often the source of ideas that >> >> > make it into the product. Th

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread RGB ES
ay, "Thanks for the suggestion. We take all suggestions > >> > seriously, and user suggestions are often the source of ideas that > >> > make it into the product. Thank you for using AOO." > >> > >> Sounds fine for me. > >>

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Rob Weir
t; "Reveal Codes" in the manner of WordPerfect. > > -Original Message- > From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 06:13 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: A question about existing practices > > On Mon, Mar 18,

RE: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
"Reveal Codes" in the manner of WordPerfect. -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 06:13 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: A question about existing practices On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Rob Weir
>> > seriously, and user suggestions are often the source of ideas that >> > make it into the product. Thank you for using AOO." >> >> Sounds fine for me. >> >> > The title of the tread is "A question about existing practices". I >> &

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread RGB ES
t; make it into the product. Thank you for using AOO." > > Sounds fine for me. > > > The title of the tread is "A question about existing practices". I > > think the facts are quite clear. If we have many 10 year old > > untouched BZ issues then fixing

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Jörg Schmidt
t; Sounds fine for me. > The title of the tread is "A question about existing practices". I > think the facts are quite clear. If we have many 10 year old > untouched BZ issues then fixing these issues is not part of our > existing practice, whether you define that

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Rob Weir
a > fundamental difference between what we need to do and what we should do so > voluntarily. > The title of the tread is "A question about existing practices". I think the facts are quite clear. If we have many 10 year old untouched BZ issues then fixing these issues is no

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/18/13 1:49 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > >> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] >> A promise to do what? > > The opinion of the user to be taken seriously because you have asked him to > speak his mind. > >> But a feature request? > > This is an opinion of our users. It should b

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > A promise to do what? The opinion of the user to be taken seriously because you have asked him to speak his mind. > But a feature request? This is an opinion of our users. It should be important to us. > I see zero obligation, legal, [...]

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann [mailto:orwittm...@googlemail.com] >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 11:41 AM >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Re: A question

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann [mailto:orwittm...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 11:41 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: A question about existing practices > > Hi, > > sorry, for top-posting, but I have a

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, sorry, for top-posting, but I have a general remark. From my point of view the discussion on this thread went into the wrong direction. I think Jörg just mentioned issue 3959 as an _example_ for feedback from users regarding feature requests via Bugzilla votes. I also think that Jörg ment

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] > This would be a very interesting approach that of course is indeed not > completely new. If we wouldn't have useful patches in BZ I personally > would of course support such an approach. Having a clean and fresh

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/17/13 10:13 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: > Any attempt to reset the votes would mean that once more, high scores > are just ignored. > Of course, nobody would browse the whole list of existing bugs, even to > recast their own votes. So reseting the votes would only lead to forget > about old bugs o

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-18 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > Sorry, I don't mean to say you did anything wrong. Not at all. But I > do believe that there are only a small number real obligations for > what kinds of issues we absolutely must address in the code: > > 1) We must re

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > >> Developers work on what they want to work on. This is not a problem. >> Most developers on the project today have their own list of items they >> want to work on. That is fine. Maybe we get d

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-17 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > Developers work on what they want to work on. This is not a problem. > Most developers on the project today have their own list of items they > want to work on. That is fine. Maybe we get developers who don't > have a preference and would be happy

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Hagar Delest wrote: >> >> if the votes are reset, I'll take it as a huge setback for the users >> decisions > > > Resetting votes does not make sense. There is a limit on how many bugs a > user can vote for and votes can be reallocated, so

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: > Any attempt to reset the votes would mean that once more, high scores are > just ignored. > Of course, nobody would browse the whole list of existing bugs, even to > recast their own votes. So reseting the votes would only lead to forget > abo

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