Alex, if I may intrude I do not believe you would have any legal ground to
oppose joeflex.ca and even if you had, it would be such a stretch that
having Apache oppose something Adobe would not have would be beyond ironic
and very concerning. This is not Apple, is it? ;) I do understand your
concern
Angelo, I totally agree with your point! The time when it was all about the
domain, title and tags is long gone. It is funny you mention that, because
I was going to add to my previous email that a shorter domain with just
flex might be better because of the higher ratio of "flex" compared to the
t
You mean in case Trademark refuse to allow its use and outside lawyers
confirm it is not fair use righr? Because Trademark, whoever that is is not
god and I start to really dislike this conversation. Let me build one
then, and tell you when its on production and if you don't like it tell
trademark
gt; I would appreciate it if you would not waste resources of Apache by
> > testing them on this topic. There are a set of lawyers who volunteer
> time
> > to Apache to guide them on legal issues. Let's wait until we get an
> > official reply from trademarks.
> >
>
2014 at 2:47 PM, Stephane Beladaci <
adobeflexengin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Again there is what the Apache lawyer wants and there is what we can do.
> They defend Apache's interest, not ours. Amd there is what they want, and
> what they can't do anything about. And then the
the thing though -- it's not a "us vs. them" type of situation. We
> are all Apache (including the community). The trademark group within the
> Apache Foundation is there to protect us. Please see it that way. We live
> in a litigious world and we all need to realiz
Hey Mike, good to see your name again ;) Interesting point, something I was
not thinking about to take into consideration indeed. I think we got it
convered for the purpose of this thread and each party / role expressed
their concern. I'm looking forward to reading the feedback from Apache
lawyers
I was told Disney Interactive os dropping AIR because Adobe ruled support
to community basis, I checked the enterprise support program on Adobe
website and saw AIR but not Flex. I answered my contact bringing good
attention on it but the conversation went cold. I assumed it meant Flex
since I could
to, as they were using AIR with Flex, not straight AS3.
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/aedp.html
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Stephane Beladaci <
adobeflexengin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was told Disney Interactive os dropping AIR because Adobe ruled support
> to community basis, I
s not have plans to provide support for
> Apache released versions of the Flex SDK. We anticipate that third parties
> will offer support for releases of Apache Flex.
>
>
> -Alex
> [1] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html
>
> On 1/3/14 11:09 PM, "Stephane
Joseph, what is the name you are actually going to use? Does it contain only
Flex or Apache Flex?
Alex, could you ask Apache trademark the registration numbers related to
Flex? I could not find any entry in the USPTO registry. Also, trademark
disclaimer on the site does not include "Flex", it rea
That is precisely what I am creating with the Open Screen Foundation, Open
Screen Academy and iflex.mx :-) Your analysis is pertinent, except it is
not going to come from the inside as a subdivision would. Instead the crowd
takes over communication, developer advocacy, developer training, developer
I'm coming up with iflex.mx, I welcome Adobe to drop everything it wants,
by any mean. Im even preparing with Open Screen Foundation in the
eventuality Adobe gives us one its plendid balls drop with Flash or AIR.
Almost everything is open source and I'm talking with former product and
group nanager
Hi everyone,
Wow, that was quick! :) I'm actually behind iflex.mx which is one of the
projects of the Open Screen Foundation I will be unveiling on Bastille day.
The foundation is pretty much taking things when the Occupy HTML5 movement
left them: ridding the World of HTML5 purism and promoting th
.2.2
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:6y4i29.2.3
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:6y4i29.2.4
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:6y4i29.2.5
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:6y4i29.2.6
On M
Hi Everyone
I'm curious to know what is the outcome regarding that friendly email. For
once that someone is usong a blatant copy of the Flex logo and name, for
commercial purpose, with no disclaimer, I am very surprised that you guys
are not more aggressive especially after all the hard time given
I think it means it drops a few ranks, the fluctuation is expectable
though.
On Aug 25, 2014 11:04 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just noticed ActionScript has climbed a few more spots in the Tiobe index
> and is now at 17. [1] Was was actually 14 in June! Here's the graph [2]. I
> certain
I'm part of the Azure Advisors group with direct access to Azure engineers.
I'm not familiar with the matter here but if there is anything I can try to
escalate or any help I can try to ask let me know.
On Nov 22, 2014 3:44 PM, "Christofer Dutz"
wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I'm currently packing my stuff,
Hi Flexers,
I am preparing to make a case for the development of a new independent
Flash Player for desktop and mobile browsers. I am presently working on
identifying the best candidates for what would be a dream team to develop a
complete Flash player with the same features and capabilities as Fl
t; alternative that packages WinRT apps.
>
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Stephane Beladaci <
> adobeflexengin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Flexers,
> >
> > I am preparing to make a case for the development of a new independent
> > Flash Player fo
e on this forum.
> >
> > Also, on a personal note: if you make statements like "HTML5 failed,"
> > I would ask you to provide references, or you risk being labelled a
> > troll, I'm afraid.
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Ja
@Tom, I see your point and anticipate many others. We have the choice to be
part of the problem or the solution. Let's say there is a show blocker, a
piece of proprietary technology that we cannot engineer ourselves. I have
two answer to that. First, I see a huge PR campaign to tell the world "see,
Hector, you just point to another major issue with open source software,
One day down the road, in two weeks, two months or two years that guy and
his buddies who started the project walk out.The project cannot be pushed
forward by a distributed community and its contribution based on per hour
free
.
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Stephane Beladaci <
adobeflexengin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hector, you just point to another major issue with open source software,
> One day down the road, in two weeks, two months or two years that guy and
> his buddies who started the project walk
If the discussion is not about what I cannot do, but rather what I can and
how yes I would love to.
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote:
> > What we need is an independent Flash player.
>
> OK. You have made your case, and then some.
>
> Now, since this forum is dedicated to th
eloper, QA ...).
2/ How was the development effort divided and distributed?
-SB
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Stephane Beladaci <
adobeflexengin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If the discussion is not about what I cannot do, but rather what I can and
> how yes I would love to.
>
> O
Alright Erik, thank you for confirming my concern regarding the fact that
Apache is no longer a good match for Flex. I started feel your change of
direction already a while ago.
Good luck killing Flex with JS.
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Erik de Bruin wrote:
> >> Now, since this forum is
Flash IDE without the player is now no longer
allowed.
Good luck to you guys!
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Stephane Beladaci <
adobeflexengin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alright Erik, thank you for confirming my concern regarding the fact that
> Apache is no longer a good match for Fle
e a bit in the
> late 2000's as they started including some of the new video functions in
> MovieStar.
>
Could you develop what is MovieStar?
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:38 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski
wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:37 AM, Stephane Beladaci <
> adobefl
>
> Things don't often go that way with software development, more people
> doesn't necessarily mean less time, there are tasks that cannot be done in
> parallel or by more than one person. Also, there are certain things in
> development where automatic testing is not 100% possible or worth the tim
>
> This is not an official Adobe answer as I am not and have never been on
> the player team, plus Adobe has a policy of not releasing staffing
> numbers.
Noted, and agreed... that is why I am getting those number using other
methods :)
> Nick may have been right at one point in time when ther
people. I've posted it here,
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UYbS1t6FInwqC1luYceYLzXDnQJe3L0DSQFi7KlIa5g/edit?usp=docslist_api
>>>
>>> I'm trying to keep it unbiased. I need to add a pro's and con's section to
>>> it.
>&
The "proprietary" tiny bit of the player, which is a fraction of the
whole Flash ecosystem mostly open source, is precisely what made it a
success and what made JS a failure. JS implementation is left to the
browser, and you can be sure they will use that last word to screw
each other, block each o
ask that it is continued on another forum.
>
> This list is the dev list for the Apache Flex project, all discussion
> on it should at least be tangentially related to that topic.
>
> Thanks,
>
> EdB
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Stephane Beladaci
> wrote:
>&g
he built in
> HTML views have a lot of limitations so this might allow for reusing a lit of
> the existing code out there, or combining project assets into a single
> codebase.
>
> I've done some initial work on it but don't have anything completed as of yet.
>
> David
&
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Carlos Velasco
wrote:
> I think the flex framework and universe needs to pass a rebranding process
> to separate itself from the Adobe products past and future destiny. I mean,
> it is no more an Adobe product, but a new one with its own lifecycle... So,
> moving t
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Carlos Velasco
wrote:
> I think the flex framework and universe needs to pass a rebranding process
> to separate itself from the Adobe products past and future destiny. I mean,
> it is no more an Adobe product, but a new one with its own lifecycle... So,
> moving t
Thoughts on Flash fooled the
world to believe Flash was still the pre-2006 tech.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Stephane Beladaci
wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Carlos Velasco
> wrote:
>> I think the flex framework and universe needs to pass a rebranding process
&g
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Angelo Anolin wrote:
> With most enterprise (MS on .NET, Google on Angular, Facebook on React), I
> think it should just follow that Adobe perhaps start the process of having
> Flash open sourced so that all possible enhancements and security patches
> it needs can
do much worse, because they have more debt to pay off, for example,
>> > websites made in 1999.
>> > 2) Every big bully wants to have there own environment, developers, so
>> that
>> > that can direct the market, especially Apple who owns both hardware and
&
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:07 AM, wrote:
> Keep in mind though that Adobe is still investing in flash and air. They are
> just focused on gaming.
I agree, this is one of the strategic moves I applauded Adobe for.
There are very specific strategic interest in this focus on gaming:
1/ it keeps t
Oops, wrong link... here it is, Top tech CEOs advocate Flash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CwI227m-hs
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Stephane Beladaci
wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:07 AM, wrote:
>> Keep in mind though that Adobe is still investing in flash and air.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Carlos Velasco <
carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What I was trying to point is: Flash Player is not an Adobe's bussiness
> core tool right now, and depending absolutely from a company which is not
> investing hard on it is the way to certain death, maybe
Absolutely zero doubt. I have track record for the past 2.5 years straight
saying multithreading is coming, a reality, on desktop, browser, and
mobile. I was reassured ny people I trust from the group product management
that resources were allocated. I told those people if one of Windows, Mac,
all
e me wrong
generally speaking,
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Carlos Velasco
wrote:
> With the own respect, Stephane, sometimes reading your comments I find you
> dreaming and dreaming, but not on earth...
>
> 2015-02-26 5:09 GMT-03:00 Stephane Beladaci :
>
>> On Wed, Feb 25,
Erik,
What is your problem exactly? You are the only one complaining, the
discussion is actually picking up, several participants reminded you that
this discussion has its place here. So what it is, am I an obstacle to the
Apache Foundation grand plan to hijack Flex to JS? Or is it just that you
d
>
> > > - Encourage web developers to adopt JS or others as their platform.
> Focus
> > > on enterprise developments where a big team is required to get the
> goal.
> > >
> > > - Clean the Framework API and extend it.
> > >
> > >
> >
at the
> truth was not broadly understood about the technical details and so people
> piled onto flash because Jobs told them too.
>
> Thank you choir! :)
>
> David
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Stephane Beladaci (Flexengineer)"
> To: dev@flex.a
Hi Mike,
So good to hear from you again! I remember your FSCollectionFX,
ResizeManager, and other components pretty well! I think I used them
all :)
I wanted to comment on your tooling concern, this is from a leaked
internal memo by Google engineers on the future of JavaScript in 2011:
"Complex
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