We developers, the rest of the world consumers, professional and businesses do not care about the personal feeling of Silicon Valley CEOs, not do we care or are concerned by their thoughts about the competition. If Apple helped Adobe become the company it is today good for Apple, the helped a company become the most creative corporate entity on the planet, empowering in turn millions of creative amateurs and professional with unmatched market penetration and tooling integration. If Adobe changed focused when Microsoft scored 85% of the computer market, good for Adobe and not doing so could have almost been a failure of its duty toward shareholders. This is America, for the better and for the worse, corporate laws clearly established the rules of the game: you put your shareholders bottom line first and foremost, and if you fail to do so you get fired if not sued.
Moreover, Steve Jobs might have been raised to the status of a semi god, it does not change the gact that it is one of the most obnoxiously despicable human being corporate America has ever known, who screwed the entire planet to build to largest company ever known with 3 products based on the most outraging business pradctices and such megalomania that the man did not even hide any of it, to the point that his nasty email spread all over Silicon Valley in the conduct of his business shown through half a dozen antitrust lawsuit over the past few years, to the point that his estate, Tim Cook, several members of the board and executive team are now getting sued by Apple shareholders put to shame by way the company has been operated. To the extent that team cook fired every bit of Steve Jobs legacy from VP iOS, to the crazy maniac head of corporate communication and PR with her journalist blacklist and scare tactics, to VP here, Director there... Bye everyone. As far as we are concerned, whatever grief toward Adobe he might have had, probably legitimately for that matter, it did not give him the right to deal with the free web as if it was the property of Apple, it did not give him the right to destroy the career of 3 million Flash developers the same way he was recently shown in court as the mastermind behind an illegal conspiracy to screw 100,000+ tech workers from Silicon Valley. It did not give him the right to assassinate the best technology in the history of the world wide web, pushing a lame decoy called HTML5, and by doing so orchestrate the biggest antitrust and corporate bullying scam in the entire history of the world wide web. I invite you to read this note, make sure to read the comment and what Steve Wozniak has to say about the Steve Jobs' Apple, here: https://www.facebook.com/flexengineer/posts/10152480754810679 And here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151055432260679&set=a.10150163968065679.301814.569205678 On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > I have an historical note about Apple and Adobe. > > Adobe would not exist without Apple and the generous $1,000 Postscript > license fee for every LaserWriter that Apple paid Adobe in the mid-1980s. > > Adobe was originally a Mac shop. > > Adobe switched to a Windows shop in the early 1990s. I think we can trace the > break to that era. > > I've heard that Bill Gates didn't like Adobe either and you could never give > him a PDF.... > > Of course it is ancient history now ... it is so 20th century. > > On Feb 11, 2015, at 7:43 AM, f...@dfguy.us wrote: > >> Good stuff, yes all of us who actually knew flex and action script knew all >> the claims in the thoughts letter weren't actually true at the time. Lies! >> :) I did not know however that iPhone use the QuickTime plugin! Ha! Also, >> more security risks in Firefox, chrome and IE, and OSX than Flash, that's >> surprising. >> >> David >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Fréderic Cox" <coxfrede...@gmail.com> >> To: dev@flex.apache.org >> Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 9:10 AM >> Subject: Re: "The Player", a case for an independent Flash Player >> >> That is a great document Jude >> >> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:54 AM, jude <flexcapaci...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I came across some more misinformation and decided to keep a document of >>> rebuttals and other info to refer back to when attempting to educate >>> people. I've posted it here, >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UYbS1t6FInwqC1luYceYLzXDnQJe3L0DSQFi7KlIa5g/edit?usp=docslist_api >>> >>> I'm trying to keep it unbiased. I need to add a pro's and con's section to >>> it. >>> >>> Feel free to use it and add to it (contact me for edit permissions). >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 20, 2015, Stephane Beladaci < >>> adobeflexengin...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> This is not an official Adobe answer as I am not and have never been on >>>>> the player team, plus Adobe has a policy of not releasing staffing >>>>> numbers. >>>> >>>> >>>> Noted, and agreed... that is why I am getting those number using other >>>> methods :) >>>> >>>> >>>>> Nick may have been right at one point in time when there was no >>>>> Adobe AIR and the Player only had to work on Mac and Windows without >>>> GPUs, >>>>> but OTOH, I am pretty sure that re-creating the Adobe runtimes from >>>>> scratch today would be a significant effort as the number of devices, >>>>> operating system versions, GPUs and other platform differences would >>> make >>>>> hardware abstraction a huge task. >>>> >>>> >>>> At this point I am not trying to define whether it is going to be easy >>> task >>>> or not, the harder I am told it will be, the more motivated I am to find >>> a >>>> way :) At this point what I am trying to define is >>>> >>>> 1/ how much we can reuse from what has been made open source over the >>> years >>>> 2/ what are the vital IP we will need to get from third parties and who >>> are >>>> those parties >>>> 3/ how much will need to be engineered on top of 1 and 2 to get a viable >>>> player running AS3 modern RIA on desktop browsers and mobile browsers. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> IMO, that was a goal of the Open Screen >>>>> Project: to get the hardware and os vendors to take on the abstraction >>>>> load. And I believe there are still terms-of-use issues around >>>>> interpreting byte code on some of these platforms. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Funny you mention OSP, Adobe has abandoned the trademarks and I acquired >>>> the. ThePlayer will be supported by the Open Screen Project as part of >>> the >>>> Open Screen Foundation. The domain name will be openscreen.org. I am >>> also >>>> in the process of reaching out to every companies involved in the Adobe >>>> effort, starting with all CEO featured in this video: >>>> >>>> Top CEOs Advocate for Adobe Flash >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CwI227m-hs> >>>> >>> >
