@Carlos, I think we have to be careful with the open source term. I think the independent aspect is the key, as like I said earlier in the conversation the small piece of the Flash platform that is proprietary is the very reason why browser vendors have not be able to cripple Flash, have not been able to stop it from holding the web 10 years ahead of its time for 10 years straight, have not been able to refrain it from bringing the user experience of their desktop and mobile proprietary system. It is also why Jobs wanted it dead. On the other end of the spectrum, it is precisely because HTML5 is an open standard with implementation left to the browser that it has been a huge lie and a failure.
Which takes us to @Erik, your point on the language is duly noted. You are right, this is not my forum. Regardless of the fact that I barely re-read and hardly edit my social media content by choice (I believe in authenticity and spontaneity, not diplomacy and even less political correctness), I should be more careful outside of my social media. You are also (see I was going to say d*&6m) right I am angry! The concern should not be whether or not or why I am angry, but how can the large majority of the community not be? Where I come from, the people put an entire country on fire and kept their corporate world under control for less than what Silicon Valley alone has been inflicting to nearly every class of consumers, from general public, to developers, small businesses and enterprise. It was May 1968, not very long ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1968_events_in_France. So yeah, I am angry, bitter, and not having any of it ever since the day Thoughts on Flash hit apple.com. I was on a contract at Adobe Consulting at the time, and was made aware almost in real time about what this was about. I have been consistent since 2010: Apple Steve Jobs' ban of Flash is the greatest and largest smear campaign, antitrust and corporate bullying scam in the entire history of Internet and the world wide web. It is the closest the modern civilized and democratic world got to Hitler burning books in the street of London with an entire nation applauding him for it. I have been called crazy, liar. and various species of animals for years. Some Adobe employees themselves challenged me on the antitrust nature of the corporate move, to the point I had to respond in social media with copy of correspondence with FTC and EU proving the ongoing international preliminary investigation of Apple for antitrust violations in regard to the ban of Flash and AIR. I have been told there is no monopoly so there cannot be antitrust (that comes from a "tech press" journalism). I wonder was 75% of digital entertainment market and 80% of mobile application market at the time of the ban should be called if not monopoly. The fact the market moved rapidly and changed the numbers does not change the fact that requiring developers who want to put an app on iPhone, which is the single point of entry to mobile market, have to 1/ buy a Mac and 2/ develop for Apple and Apple only, is not just antitrust but probably racketeering as well. I told Sheryl Sandberg publicly on Facebook from 2010 to 2013 that the company will fail with HTML5 codename Spartan. It ended up failing their entry to mobile market which largely contributed to failing their IPO to the point that their CEO has to go on the record and state "HTML5 is one of the, if not the biggest mistakes in the history of Facebook" in an attempt to apollogize and appease the company's shareholders. I do not care what Sencha has to say about it, trying to twist the facts by saying that Facebook still uses HTML5 on the web. That is not what we were sold. We were sold HTML5 is the replacement for Flash, fully supported by Apple, and pushed by the Master of Evil Magic himself. That was a lie. There were bugs related to background music which was key to success for Facebook HTML5 platform, that were marked "not to be fixed" by executive order. That is Apple executive branch telling mobile Safari engineers to not fix those bugs. iOS7 was called the buggiest version since #1 by an HTML5 expert. At no point in time has Apple walked the talked, in such blatant way that to see not just the public, but entire world of professional, Silicon Valley included, still drink the coolaid drove me mad. In 2013 I was introduced to HBO VP by Adobe after a successful assignment for another large network through Adolbe Consulting. I met with the two directors in charge of HBO and HBOGO. We talked about what was coming down from Apple, there was no resistence, it was clear to the entire room. Then I explained why I believe HTML5 will fail them, and that did not go so well. They passed. Two years later, there is still no HBO HTML5 anything to show for beside some interface in controlled environment on Google Cast. Three years later, last month, they shutdown their entire HTML5 labs in Seattle after pumping $100M/year in it, fired everyone, gave up trying, CTO resigned, and they are not outsourcing video streaming. I hope you can see how insane this is... HBO, the company that was rocking video streaming with Flash years years ago, now in 20015 gives up entirely. Based on my estimate Jobs' ban of Flash costed HBO alone nearly a billion dollars in money wasted on HTML5 and loss of revenue. Netflix? I still have to see what they got, hope it is great cause it has been 5 years. Adobe? They said in 2012 that they will bring HTML5 further than what Flash was, I am still waiting now 3 years later for Adobe to bring HTML5 where Flash was half a decade if not a decade ago. YThe review of Edge Animate by design expert from PCPRO was titled "With Animate, Adobe bring the web back 15 years". Adobe also sent back recently Edge Code where they found it when they grabbed it, the open source community. The whole Edge line of product has been in beta for nearly 4 or 5 years. So has been the HTML5 player from Youtube. None of the above is fully operational and performing today. LinkedIn head of engineering went on the record about the decision to dump HTML5, calling it a mistake. A leaked internal email from Google Engineering state that JS is so flawed that "it cannot be fixed by merely changing the language". One of the only real success story with HTML5 is the Financial Times in London, what most do not know however is that it takes such rocket scientists to MAKE HTML5 (because it just does not) that the company was not able to source the project and ended up having to buy the entire agency that developed it just for the human resources. That is a (BIP) expensive app most cannot afford, and those who can would have hard time finding in the first place. So yes, I maintain and stand by what I have been saying non stop for the past 4 years: Ban of Flash is an antitrust scam, and the push for decoy HTML5 a lie. Now, I am not going to tell you what I make of Adobe killing Flash on Android. I have the keep the best part for the launch of AppleTruth.com ;) Now let me know if you want to challenge any of the above and I will provide sources, links. court documents etc... Of course all the above is just opinion, and experiences, right? So I got IBM, Microsoft and Rackspace to back me up with nearly $100k/year in software licensing and cloud computing power for 3 startups: iSocialWatch, digital consumer watchdog and advocacy organization; Open Screen Project, yes you know that one, Adobe abandonned the trademark so I grabbed them and will be 1/ trying to unionize Sillicon Valley engineers and developers, 2/ rid the world of HTML5 purism, 3/ train and promote the next generation of Flash an AIR developers, 4/ hopefully come up with"The Player" we talked about; and finally Socialpod, which is an app bringing enterprise class social media management, publishing, and reputation control in the hand of consumers based on artificial intelligence and decentralized private cloud and peer to peer social networking. Back to HTML5, this is my recent post on Azure Advisors group for Machine Learning: Hi Everyone! I have a few projects for which I am trying to define whether or not, how, and to what extend Azure Machine Learning can help. I will use a different post for each project for clarity. Project 1 - HTML5 Professional Opinion I am trying to make a case about HTML5 becoming a buzz word bigger than itself through massive misinformation in digital and social media. For research purpose, I would like to define a way to: 1/ scan all mention of HTML5 in professional context, regardless of the source (news, blog, social media, etc..), or type (article, social media post, comment, etc...) 2/ extract HTML5 technical features being talked about, and the related sentiments, opinions, and claims or affirmation (what it allows to do, availability, compatibility, etc..) 3/ rank data from #2 based based on popularity (how often it is mentioned) and sentiments (positive or negative) 4/ compare data from 1, 2, and 3 with actual release dates, features, and capabilities from 2 angle: the specifications (what the W3C says the standard does and the features added with each update), and the implementation (what the main browsers are actually capable of doing) with known bugs taken in consideration. #4 will probably be entirely or partially manual, but I need to automatize and scale the 3 first tasks. The point I am trying to make is basically than HTML5 as pushed by Steve Jobs to justify the killing of Flash technology is the biggest smear campaign, antitrust violation, and unfair practices scam in the entire history of the Internet. As a domain expert, I know for facts that most of what developers have been fed with regarding HTML5 capabilities and opportunities turned to be false, from massive social media flooding orchestrated by Apple, to bugs marked "not to be fixed" by executive order in an attempt to cripple the fraction of the capabilities claims that actually worked. Being totally knew to machine learning, but with a strong background in software engineering, application development, digital media, and social media, I would appreciate any pointer and ideas on how I can pull this off with machine learning :) Sincerely, Stephane So I hope you are ready to raise hell, because I am: Raising Hell - A Citizens Guide to the Fine Art of Investigation http://www.scribd.com/doc/252130578/Raising-Hell-A-Citizens-Guide-to-the-Fine-Art-of-Investigation On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Carlos Velasco < carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've always said that having an open source virtual machine to stand FLEX > is the good way forward, so... At least interested in knowing more about > the project. > > 2015-01-18 14:39 GMT-03:00 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl>: > > > I applaud any new Open Source initiatives, and I think you are right > > to use this forum to look for people willing to help you out. The Flex > > community would greatly benefit from an Open Source player able to > > playback SWF files. > > > > I do however ask you to mind your language and temper the emotional > > content of your emails: you sound very angry and you curse a lot. That > > is not the way to communicate on this forum. > > > > Also, on a personal note: if you make statements like "HTML5 failed," > > I would ask you to provide references, or you risk being labelled a > > troll, I'm afraid. > > > > EdB > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Stephane Beladaci > > <adobeflexengin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > We would leverage and use the full extend of the open sources > components > > of > > > the Flash Platform, and build the proprietary part of the player. It is > > > actually the key, without it it would be merely the same as open > > standards > > > and would fail for the same reasons HTML5 did. In order to run > innovation > > > in the browser with true cross browser capability the implementation > > cannot > > > be left up to the vendor. We know what they would do, use it to f*uck > > each > > > other all around the W3C table. WIth this in mind, anything that run > > modern > > > AS3 apps and deliver best in class video is good enough. > > > > > > Thanks for the LightSpark pointer, will look up everyone I can on > > LinkedIn > > > and reach out. > > > > > > -SB > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 2:35 AM, Héctor A <neverbi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > >> Well, even if you are fully aware of it, I'll just say that what you > are > > >> looking to make isn't something trivial, years of work. Maybe the best > > >> option would be to use LightSpark as the starting point. As for people > > to > > >> work on it, I'd say that trying to contact anyone who contributes or > > >> contributed to LightSpark would be the best first option. > > >> > > >> I feel that instead of a new player, people would love more some ADT > > >> alternative that packages WinRT apps. > > >> > > >> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Stephane Beladaci < > > >> adobeflexengin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hi Flexers, > > >> > > > >> > I am preparing to make a case for the development of a new > independent > > >> > Flash Player for desktop and mobile browsers. I am presently working > > on > > >> > identifying the best candidates for what would be a dream team to > > >> develop a > > >> > complete Flash player with the same features and capabilities as > Flash > > >> > Player 11 on PC, Mac, and Android browsers. > > >> > > > >> > Please nominate whoever you believe to be among the best in research > > and > > >> > development, engineering, product management, and marketing, with > > >> expertise > > >> > relevant to the tasks in hand. > > >> > > > >> > Let's avoid losing ourselves in rhetoric over whether or not this > is a > > >> good > > >> > idea, whether it is smart or crazy. All the self bashing noise from > > >> within > > >> > the community has been our worst enemy over the past 4 years, much > > worse > > >> > that Jobs himself. > > >> > > > >> > I dedicated extensive time and effort in investigating, researching, > > and > > >> > networking over the issues of both the ban of Flash by Apple and the > > >> > killing of Flash Player on Android by Adobe. All the results of > those > > >> years > > >> > of work will be releases on AppleTruth.com anytime soon (under legal > > >> > review), and we will have plenty of time and space to debate, > > including > > >> > discussing an antitrust case against Apple for which I believe we > > have a > > >> > course of action. > > >> > > > >> > For now, please guys just help me build a list of names for this > dream > > >> > team. > > >> > > > >> > May the Force be with us :) > > >> > > > >> > -Stephane > > >> > > > >> > Articles on LinkedIn Pulse: > > >> > http://www.linkedin.com/today/author/5629395 > > >> > > > >> > Facebook Profile: > > >> > http://facebook.com/flexengineer > > >> > > > >> > Twitter Timeline: > > >> > http://twitter.com/flexengineer > > >> > > > >> > OccupyHTML5 Facebook Page: > > >> > http://facebook.com/occupyhtml5 > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Ix Multimedia Software > > > > Jan Luykenstraat 27 > > 3521 VB Utrecht > > > > T. 06-51952295 > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl > > >
