Joseph, what is the name you are actually going to use? Does it contain only Flex or Apache Flex?
Alex, could you ask Apache trademark the registration numbers related to Flex? I could not find any entry in the USPTO registry. Also, trademark disclaimer on the site does not include "Flex", it reads: "Apache Flex, Apache and the Apache feather logo are trademarks of The Apache Software Foundation". -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Balderson [mailto:n...@joeflash.ca] Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 11:39 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache Flex Examples Proposal Alex, how is Apache trademarks going to be aware of the full intent of the future site if you cannot forward the contents of my proposal detailed above? I gotta be honest man, I am really not liking where this is going. Methinks it might have been better to allow me the opportunity to describe the project a little more formally before submitting a proposal on my behalf? I came to this list seeking advice on protocol, not to have the trademark request submitted without my knowledge. Please advise. _______________________________________________________________________ Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book Alex Harui wrote: > Trademarks is a private list so I can't forward without permission. I > will say that I did get a response today and the answer was not an > unequivocal "no". More discussion has to happen in private before a > final ruling is made. > > -Alex > > On 1/4/14 12:44 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: > >> Thanks Alex. If you could forward me a copy of their reply off-list >> to jbdes...@joeflash.ca and/or forward them my email, that would be >> greatly appreciated. >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> __ >> >> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: >> http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: >> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >> >> Joseph Balderson wrote: >>> My only concern is that, in the absence of the details contained in >>> my formal request as outlined below, the initial contact to Apache >>> trademarks regarding this issue might not constitute "putting our >>> best foot forward" in having this use case approved. And since I do >>> not know the content of your initial communication to them on my >>> behalf, I cannot say one way or another. It would ease my mind to >>> know that Apache were aware of the contents of my proposal before >>> reaching a verdict, which is why I wonder if waiting to send them >>> this information would be the wisest course of action. >>> >>> Thanks very much for your help, >>> >>> Joseph >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>> ___ >>> >>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: >>> http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: >>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>> >>> Alex Harui wrote: >>>> Joe, >>>> >>>> If it were me, I'd wait until Tuesday to contact trademarks@a.o. >>>> I've already asked trademarks for their guidance on this matter and >>>> they haven't responded yet. I did see trademarks answer another >>>> email, but they may not be fully engaged and caught up on everything until Monday. >>>> >>>> I would suggest tweaking it a bit to make it clear you've read the >>>> domain name policy documents on the Apache site, otherwise the >>>> first response you get might just be a pointer to those documents. >>>> It is pretty clear to me from those documents that you will have to >>>> have a disclaimer on your site. >>>> IMO, asking "if desired" implies that you haven't read those >>>> documents. >>>> >>>> -Alex >>>> >>>> On 1/3/14 7:17 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> FYI, here is my official request proposal to Apache. Alex, if you >>>>> would be so kind as to forward this on to the folks at Apache that >>>>> would be greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> ----- >>>>> -- >>>>> January 3, 2014 >>>>> >>>>> To Who It May Concern, >>>>> >>>>> My name is Joseph Balderson, and I am a professional ActionScript >>>>> 3.0 developer of 13 years, and a specialist Flex developer for 8 >>>>> years now as of January 2014. >>>>> I have been, in my professional life as an ActionScript developer, >>>>> an Adobe-certified Trainer, a teacher of Flash programming at >>>>> Humber College in Toronto, a speaker at user groups, and a >>>>> professional tech writer. I have tech edited a number of books by >>>>> Peachpit, Friends of Ed and O'Reilly, and in >>>>> 2009 I >>>>> lead a 6-person team to write a 1400-page book Professional Adobe >>>>> Flex 3 by Wrox Publishing, rated 4.5 out of 5 stars on Amazon. >>>>> >>>>> With the migration of the Flex framework from Adobe to Apache, >>>>> good internet resources for Flex have fallen through the cracks, >>>>> namely Tour De Flex and flexexamples.com, both of which have >>>>> functioned as essential micro-tutorial resources for the beginner, >>>>> a quick reference for the more experienced programmer, and >>>>> visibility on its use to managers and stakeholders. >>>>> These >>>>> two >>>>> resources have yet to be migrated/updated to Apache Flex. >>>>> >>>>> Thus, seeing a need in the programming community, and wanting to >>>>> help restore and promote the adoption of Flex for its own sake, I >>>>> have purchased the domain apacheflexexamples.com, with the >>>>> intention of turning it into a micro-tutorial site with the same >>>>> purpose and intent of the former flexexamples.com. >>>>> (An >>>>> archive of the site as it existed prior to Flex's migration from >>>>> Adobe to Apache in 2012 can be seen here: >>>>> >>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20111010030748/http://blog.flexexample >>>>> s.com >>>>> / >>>>> ). >>>>> >>>>> To be specific, the purpose and features of apacheflexexamples.com >>>>> will >>>>> include: >>>>> >>>>> 1) provide blog-like micro-tutorials; >>>>> 2) will be administrated and authored by myself, Joseph Balderson >>>>> 3) tutorials will be short, on average "single page", thus no code >>>>> repository or downloads of any kind will be necessary; >>>>> 4) where possible the most recent version of Apache Flex will be >>>>> used and indicated; >>>>> 5) an average of one post per business day will be issued on the >>>>> site; >>>>> 6) commenting will be disabled, and users will be encouraged to >>>>> discuss the tutorials on the official us...@flex.apache.org list; >>>>> 7) an email address will be set up where users can contact the >>>>> administrator >>>>> (me) for the specific purpose of pointing out typos or problems >>>>> specific to the examples which are non-specific to Flex framework >>>>> errata issues; >>>>> 8) a resource/"blogroll" list of resource links will be situated >>>>> in a prominent location in the left or right column so as to help >>>>> users refer to official Apache Flex resources; >>>>> 9) if desired, to avoid confusion with official Apache websites, a >>>>> disclaimer similar to what is currently used in book titles and >>>>> other publications will be indicated at the top of every page, >>>>> "Apache, Apache Flex, and Flex are trademarks of The Apache >>>>> Software Foundation. Used with permission. No endorsement by The >>>>> Apache Software Foundation is implied by the use of these marks." >>>>> 10) no personal promotions (other than an author credit on my >>>>> part), nor any product reviews, endorsements or sales of any kind >>>>> will be permitted on the >>>>> site: it is strictly for micro-tutorials pertaining to the Apache >>>>> Flex framework. (See the flexexamples.com archive as an example) >>>>> >>>>> In addition, if there comes a time when I am no longer willing or >>>>> able to administer the site or keep up a reasonable posting >>>>> frequency, I will commit in writing to donating the domain and the >>>>> site administration to the Apache Flex group. >>>>> >>>>> The aim is to have a few dozen examples blogged and ready to go >>>>> prior to launch sometime in February of 2014. A private beta will >>>>> be issued, to be reviewed by the Apache Flex development team (and >>>>> the legal department at Apache if such is >>>>> desired) to ensure everyone concerned is satisfied with the end >>>>> result prior to launch. Once the site is launched, posting >>>>> frequency will be as indicated above. >>>>> >>>>> All this to say that I am very vested and interested in conserving >>>>> the quality and integrity of the Apache Flex name. And in order to >>>>> help increase positive adoption of Apache Flex usage, I have >>>>> purchased this domain with the intent of continuing on the work of >>>>> the esteemed former Adobe employee Peter DeHaan at >>>>> flexexamples.com with a new site. In the spirit of this intent, I >>>>> humbly request your permission to use the Apache trademark in the >>>>> domain name apacheflexexamples.com. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> >>>>> Joseph Balderson >>>>> Flex Developer & Tech Writer >>>>> http://www.joeflash.ca >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/joeflash >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>>>> > >
