I meant Flex 2 (not 1.5), AS3 was developed for the purpose of supporting Flex 2 and was released as beta for that purpose. A year or two later, AS3 become available for timeline based Flash animation. This marked the clear distinction between Flash prior to AS3/Flex/Flash Player 9 and after. Jobs Thoughts on Flash fooled the world to believe Flash was still the pre-2006 tech.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Stephane Beladaci <adobeflexengin...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Carlos Velasco > <carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I think the flex framework and universe needs to pass a rebranding process >> to separate itself from the Adobe products past and future destiny. I mean, >> it is no more an Adobe product, but a new one with its own lifecycle... So, >> moving to a new brand would throw away every Adobe's bad inheritances from >> the past. > > The brand is the strongest and most popular brand the web has even > known. Adobe spent 4 billion to acquire it from Macromedia, and did a > decent job at migrating it from an animation solution used to move > stuff around on web pages (including banner ads, the worst thing > happening to Flash), into an enterprise class technology, toolchain, > workflow and ecosystem called the Flash Platform. > > Adobe toke the new language (AS3) and VM to the next level. AS3 was > entirely rewritten from the ground up to support Flex as a fully > object oriented, enterprise class programming language released > co-jointly with Flex 1.5 over a year before being available in the > Flash Pro (timeline based) IDE. Adobe took the Flex 1.5 technology (a > $12,000 application server with a Dreamweaver based IDE), turned it > into a few hundreds dollars Eclipse plugin, evangelized the hell out > of it to the Java community, and made it the best in class application > development technology EVER, to this day. > > We, Flex developers, introduced the very concept of "apps" a decade > ahead of industry, Apple included. We invented Rich Internet > Applications (RIA), a revolutionary concept meant to bring the desktop > application experience onto the web. Everyone calls it "apps" today. > Apollo, known today as Adobe AIR, completed the full circle of > cross-platform apps from desktop, to web browsers, back to desktop, > and eventually mobile devices. > > This is what made Steve Jobs crap his pants because it truly had the > mean and power to make the iOS ecosystem irrelevant. Without iOS > owning 95% of the mobile application market for over 2 years, there > would have been no such thing as Apple as we know it today. This is > what pushed the Machiavellian to orchestrate what I have been calling > since November 2010 "the biggest smear campaign, unfair competition > scheme, and antitrust violation in the entire history of the World > Wide Web, probably even in the history of modern technology. Bill > Gates got humiliated by the Federal Trade Commission, and Windows > banned from the entire European Community for a fraction of what Steve > Jobs pulled off. > >> The product, in my opinion, should focus on covering what it was made for >> (and Adobe always failed to get the world to fully understand); what is: >> Heavy Enterprise Rich Internet Applications. > > Agreed. > >> I mean. JS is for web development and so it should be, but it becomes a >> nightmare when used in complex applications. That is where FLEX is the best >> technology, and so it should take its market. > > JS is today what AS was until 2006: a script to move stuff around in > web pages. I know we should never say never, but read my lips: JS will > NEVER compete with the Flash Platform, unless the platform is > assassinated and the web retrograded to what it was 15 years ago. > Remind you something? It is called the mobile web today. > >> I also think that if the community is to be taken in a serious way, it >> should refactor some other things: >> >> - Create an open source virtual machine maintained by the community. >> (Please run away from the Player word at the name, it is not a serious >> name), but depending on Adobe is the tomb way in the near future. > > Amen. This is the project I named "The Player" because to the > contrary, this is what it is. I believe the way to go is to take it to > the opposite of what everyone is trying to do, avoid the word > "Player". It should be called just that, "The" Player. > >> - Expand the AS language to get improvements and a roadmap. > > Adobe released the blue print of what should have been AS4. Why? It > screamed: take it and do something with it! > >> - Forget about basic web features and be centered in the big companies >> world. > > They can be sub-grounds with developers micro-communities who need > those features. > >> - Encourage web developers to adopt JS or others as their platform. Focus >> on enterprise developments where a big team is required to get the goal. > > We do not need to encourage them to adopt JS, the creative communities > and W3C evangelists are doing a good job at it. If we can do it with > JS, it should not be Flash in the first place. > >> - Clean the Framework API and extend it. > > Logical. > > >> Flex was sold as the Web Technology for every project, so it got many >> enemies in the way, but Adobe failed defending the product. Now the new >> Apache product has to find its place in the market, needs a lot of >> reliability from big companies, and having the Adobe's past so present is >> resting so much to the technology's future. >> >> Do you agree? > > I am putting together the Open Screen Foundation to accomplish that. > The idea is a new approach to technology nonprofit organization, which > will do what Adobe is unable or unwilling to do, in ways that diverge > from other foundation such as Apache. Few programs include Occupy > Silicon movement, this is what should have been the response to Jobs' > "thermonuclear war" on competition (instead of what I believe turned > to be a conspiracy as part of which Adobe killed Flash Player on > Android). Add a watchdog, to keep Silicon Valley accountable for its > actions, exposing corporate games and nasty agendas. A developer > Union, to make sure that the scandal that recently exploded to the > face of Apple, screwing over hundred thousand tech workers as part of > an industry wide conspiracy of which Judge Koh (the same judge that > gave Apple its billion dollar patent victory against Samsung), named > Steve Jobs "the principal element" to the point that Apple > shareholders are now suing Tim Cook, a bunch of executive, board > members, and the personal estate of Steve Jobs for "walking antitrust" > conspiracy, costing Apple millions, and its reputation. A developer > academy and placement agency, along with a technical support service > provider to train, market and support the next generation of > application developers, bringing Flex tech and community back where it > belongs, at the top of the games, the most highly demanded class of > developers professionals, with rates at top of the pay scale. A > crowdfunding platform for those who want to build their own apps > instead of working for corporation to do the same. And a PR branch to > take on the big fancy CEOs in the media face to face. And the Open > Screen Project, taken where Adobe left it (the company abandoned the > trademarks and I acquired them). > > -Stephane
