Re: Choice of init system?

2014-09-19 Thread Brian
On Thu 18 Sep 2014 at 20:15:57 -0400, Ed Jabbour wrote: > Does (or will) the Jessie install offer a choice of systemd or > sys5init? https://lists.debian.org/5412f584.6080...@aol.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-19 Thread Reco
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:56:14 +0300 softwatt wrote: > But that is not risk-free. What if the thing that's overwriting the file > on startup dislikes not being able to write to the file and crashes? Look at it from the different angle - overwriting /etc/network/interfaces is wrong, no sensible pro

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-19 Thread softwatt
Thanks for explaining. Debian guys teach me something new every day. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 19 September 2014 07:52:33 softwatt wrote: > I knew* You knew what?? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201409190850.08157.lisi.re...@gm

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread softwatt
I knew that one day I'd have to upgrade so I put my home folder on a different partition. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-09-19 Thread Joel Rees
2014/09/19 5:27 "lee" : > > Joel Rees writes: > > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:43 PM, lee wrote: > >> Joel Rees writes: > >> > >>> 2014/09/14 6:55 "lee" yun.yagibdah.de > >>> >: > > Joel Rees @ gmail.com > >>> > writes: > >>> > >>> I can't think of any reason it would be dependent on

old PC's as thin client

2014-09-19 Thread Abdelkader Belahcene
Hi, why there is no login window in the panel controlin last distro ( for exampel linuxMinut : since mint 13 ) ??? . with mint13, I solved my problem, but not with others, here is my Pb: I want to use old PC's as thin client, to connect to remote machine running XDMCP. the XDMCP is activate

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Sven Hartge
softwatt wrote: > On 09/18/2014 08:50 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: >> On some systems it has been necessary (during the Squeeze to Wheezy >> upgrade) to first use only "apt-get upgrade" after upgrading apt and >> dpkg and then issuing the full dist-upgrade as final step to get a >> smoother upgrade. Th

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Sven Hartge
softwatt wrote: > Also, does a clean install offer any advantage over an upgrade? It's > really a pain and I prefer to avoid it, but if there are good reasons > I'll do it. After an upgrade you have to do some manual housekeeping to remove old cruft like no longer existing packages, leftover con

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread softwatt
Perfect. Thanks :) Assume this fails. What's the worst case scenario? I don't mind a broken system, I *do* mind losing my /home/ folder. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-19 Thread Bret Busby
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, Curt wrote: Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:35:18 From: Curt To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Faking it with skype Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:35:50 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org On 2014-09-17, Scott Ferguson wrote: As others have po

Re: old PC's as thin client

2014-09-19 Thread Abdelkader Belahcene
thanks, but I want to login to the remote machine directly, without login in the local machine, I want to use the local machine just as a thin client. thanks a lot On 9/19/14, Joel Roth wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:29:01AM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: >> Hi, >> >> why there is no

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Fothergill
I'm not sure what you mean by "it was also hooked up to wheezy updates". Keeping both sets of repositories would be useful if a package you require was dropped from the current "testing" and even then you might be better off compiling it for your current system. If the wheezy package has dependenci

Re: Q: security fixes

2014-09-19 Thread Ста Деюс
В Thu, 18 Sep 2014 21:09:02 +0200 Hans пишет: > is there any reason, why security fixes are done in sid and stable, > but not in testing? Latest example: apt. Yes, it is not testing and is targerted for other purposes. Ста. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Xfce actions denied after reverting to sysvinit

2014-09-19 Thread Nate Bargmann
Hopefully this is something minor that I've overlooked. I reverted my laptop, Thinkpad T410, to sysvinit and now cannot do at least a couple of things that I could before with systemd as pid 1. As having the laptop suspend simply by closing the lid while running on battery has been broken for som

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Sven Hartge
softwatt wrote: > Perfect. Thanks :) > Assume this fails. What's the worst case scenario? I don't mind a > broken system, I *do* mind losing my /home/ folder. Worst case scenario? Depends on how you define such a thing and on your skills in asessing and fixing the situation. During an upgrade

Re: Slight New Sound Problem

2014-09-19 Thread Martin G. McCormick
"T.J. Duchene" writes: > Pulseaudio has had a long history of being poorly handling certain audio > chipset drivers, I'm afraid. You may be able to solve your problem by > adjusting the the driver parameters in the file: /etc/pulse/default.pa. The more I dig in to this, the less I know. Ba

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-19 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:37:38AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: >Hi guys, >i am using wheezy with libvirt virtualization i have configured a bridge >interface for that purpose.  >i have statically set the bridge interface in interfaces file.  >like this As another alterna

Re: old PC's as thin client

2014-09-19 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:29:01AM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > Hi, > > why there is no login window in the panel controlin last distro ( > for exampel linuxMinut : since mint 13 ) ??? . I can't speak for Mint (this is a Debian user group, rather than a Mint user group), but GDM3 (the

Re: old PC's as thin client

2014-09-19 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:29:01AM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > Hi, > > why there is no login window in the panel controlin last distro ( > for exampel linuxMinut : since mint 13 ) ??? . > > with mint13, I solved my problem, but not with others, here is my Pb: > I want to use old PC's

FingerPrint ID 138a:0008 Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS300 Fingerprint Reader

2014-09-19 Thread Benedito Junior
Hello everybody, Does anyone here know where can I download the driver for my fingerprint ID 138a:0008 Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS300 Fingerprint Reader I'm using debian wheezy and I didn't find the correct driver for it.

Re: Xfce actions denied after reverting to sysvinit

2014-09-19 Thread Brian
On Fri 19 Sep 2014 at 05:40:20 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > Hopefully this is something minor that I've overlooked. > > I reverted my laptop, Thinkpad T410, to sysvinit and now cannot do at > least a couple of things that I could before with systemd as pid 1. As > having the laptop suspend simp

Re: Choice of init system?

2014-09-19 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/18/2014 at 08:15 PM, Ed Jabbour wrote: > Does (or will) the Jessie install offer a choice of systemd or > sys5init? According to my best understanding (having not taken the time to try a new install myself recently), the installer itself doe

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/09/14 19:34, Bret Busby wrote: > On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, Curt wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:35:18 >> From: Curt >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Subject: Re: Faking it with skype >> Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:35:50 + (UTC) >> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org >>

Re: Xfce actions denied after reverting to sysvinit

2014-09-19 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 19 Sep 08:18 -0500, Brian wrote: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754850 > > and > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=757348 Thanks, Brian. Obviously my Google-fu just doesn't find these things like it used to. Sadly, the last comment from the Xfce

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 05:04:02PM +0100, J Rowan wrote: > > I'm aware that nothing can possibly be set in stone yet, but the people > responsible for systemd-shim and other compatibility components must > have a fair idea whether these are intended as temporary workarounds > until 'all' packages

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:55:41PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Erwan David writes: > > It is also importat to know if it is worth the effort to report bugs > > on software which happen in a systemd-shim or sysvinitcore without any > > systemd > > Yes. Provide patches when possible. If reportbug

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 01:56:47PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Slavko writes: > > I was try this some days ago (when latest systemd-shim goes into > > testing). By my understand of the root of problem, the policykit based > > users rights depends on libpam-systemd which relies on the > > libsystemd

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-19 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
@softwatt Thanks for the info but there are many workaournd like these. what i wanted is to investigate the cause. @Reco thinks for your input. but i want to investigate which process is doing this? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:39 PM, softwatt wrote: > Thanks for explaining. Debian guys teach me

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 08:36:53AM +0300, softwatt wrote: > On 09/18/2014 08:50 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: > > On some systems it has been necessary (during the Squeeze to Wheezy > > upgrade) to first use only "apt-get upgrade" after upgrading apt and > > dpkg and then issuing the full dist-upgrade as

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 08:52:55AM +0300, softwatt wrote: > On 09/18/2014 11:54 PM, Gary Dale wrote: > > If you didn't do a dist-upgrade since Jessie came out, you could be > > running the older wheezy packages as part of your system. Not recommended. > > What about the claim that it's best to do

Re: Choice of init system?

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 08:15:57PM -0400, Ed Jabbour wrote: > Does (or will) the Jessie install offer a choice of systemd or > sys5init? Seems like it will offer a choice. How obvious that there is a choice, I have no idea about, you/we will have to wait until Jessie is declared the new Stable.

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:56:14AM +0300, softwatt wrote: > But that is not risk-free. What if the thing that's overwriting the file > on startup dislikes not being able to write to the file and crashes? At least a culprit is proven. > By the way, my solution would fail if the overwriting is happ

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-19 Thread Reco
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:38:23 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > thinks for your input. but i want to investigate which process is doing > this? Please do not top post. Come thinking of it, I believe there's a way of accomplish what you need. Try this: apt-get install auditd auditctl -w /etc/

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:54:49 +0400 Reco wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:51:30 +0300 > softwatt wrote: > > > Can Jessie keep my home partition intact and just overwrite the > > other partition? > > Current Debian installer can be persuaded to do so, sure. You can do > even better - co-install

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 12:07:57 +0300 softwatt wrote: > Perfect. Thanks :) > > Assume this fails. What's the worst case scenario? I don't mind a > broken system, I *do* mind losing my /home/ folder. > Back it up. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshootin

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/09/2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > Have you successfully run any version of Skype on that build previously? > In a message posted last month, was; " -- Forwarded message -- From: Bret Busby Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 06:42:38 +0800 Subject: Re: Skype access cancelled for Deb

Re: Xfce actions denied after reverting to sysvinit

2014-09-19 Thread Brian
On Fri 19 Sep 2014 at 08:49:37 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2014 19 Sep 08:18 -0500, Brian wrote: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754850 > > > > and > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=757348 > > Thanks, Brian. > > Obviously my Google-fu just d

Hibernate not working anymore

2014-09-19 Thread Erwan David
Hello I used to have a working hibernation. But I upgraded RAM from 8G to 16G So I also made a bigger swap partition for hibernation. Now I see the disk activity when going to hibernation, when starting the laptop, it tries to start on the hiberation data, however it fails and I get a completely

Re: Hibernate not working anymore

2014-09-19 Thread Erwan David
Le 19/09/2014 18:14, Erwan David a écrit : > Hello > > I used to have a working hibernation. But I upgraded RAM from 8G to 16G > > So I also made a bigger swap partition for hibernation. Now I see the > disk activity when going to hibernation, when starting the laptop, it > tries to start on the hi

Re: Slight New Sound Problem

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 06:30:13AM -0500, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > "T.J. Duchene" writes: > > Pulseaudio has had a long history of being poorly handling certain audio > > chipset drivers, I'm afraid. You may be able to solve your problem by > > adjusting the the driver parameters in the file: /

Re: Hibernate not working anymore

2014-09-19 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 19 Sep 2014 18:14:42 +0200 Erwan David napísal: > Hello > > I used to have a working hibernation. But I upgraded RAM from 8G to > 16G > > So I also made a bigger swap partition for hibernation. Now I see the > disk activity when going to hibernation, when starting the laptop, it

Re: word clouds

2014-09-19 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 02:03:23AM +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello List, > > is there any tools to generate `Word clouds' withing Debian ? > Today by chance I found this: https://github.com/danbernier/WordCram Not in Debian repos, but Open Source. Will that do? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread T.J. Duchene
I do not understand something that has been bugging me for a while and I'd like to ask the many minds of the list why this would not be possible, especially since Debian has some of the best Linux people out there, who have worked on the system for 20+ years. Why is it not possible to create a com

Re: word clouds

2014-09-19 Thread Curt
On 2014-09-18, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello List, > > is there any tools to generate `Word clouds' withing Debian ? > I can only find rednotebook (journal intime?). http://rednotebook.sourceforge.net/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Reco
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 11:36:58 -0500 "T.J. Duchene" wrote: > Why is it not possible to create a completely generic shell script - > basically ala SysV that can parse systemd config files for those use cases > where Systemd is undesirable? Everything is possible. Yet your question brings bunch of

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Joe
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 01:51:56 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 05:04:02PM +0100, J Rowan wrote: > > > > I'm aware that nothing can possibly be set in stone yet, but the > > people responsible for systemd-shim and other compatibility > > components must have a fair idea wheth

How to write an init.d script which runs a perl program?

2014-09-19 Thread Thomas H. George
My system is Wheezy and I would like to add a script to init.d run a simple perl program at startup. The scripts in init.d look very different these days, they used to be numbered so I could make my program run last. I have tried reading the debian-policy manual and examining some of the foo.sh

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 20 Sep 2014 01:51:56 +1200 Chris Bannister napísal: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 05:04:02PM +0100, J Rowan wrote: > > > > I'm aware that nothing can possibly be set in stone yet, but the > > people responsible for systemd-shim and other compatibility > > components must have a fair

Re: streaming over ssh and decrypting a file

2014-09-19 Thread Ross Boylan
gpg-agent was already on the system, which I have also been able to reboot. Unfortunately, gpg-agent didn't seem to solve the problem. I used it once successfully, but every other time I tried the transfer would never start. Also I had to use gpg2 to access the agent. I noticed, even when I did

Re: How to write an init.d script which runs a perl program?

2014-09-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 19 sep 14, 13:47:50, Thomas H. George wrote: > My system is Wheezy and I would like to add a script to init.d run a > simple perl program at startup. ... > Can someone give me a simple example script? /etc/init.d/skeleton Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUse

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 19 sep 14, 18:14:42, Joe wrote: > I'd certainly prefer that a systemd upgrade wasn't mandatory > during a wheezy-jessie upgrade. See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762194 It seems to me like whatever the outcome will be there will be a clearly documented procedure for h

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/18/2014 01:30 PM, softwatt wrote: Hello. How does one upgrade the distro? I have searched the web but I am getting some contradictions, and I am hesitant to mess things up. All websites suggest updating the /etc/apt/sources.list file. This makes a lot of sense. However, the consensus ends

Re: streaming over ssh and decrypting a file

2014-09-19 Thread Reco
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 12:07:22 -0700 Ross Boylan wrote: > Did you mean to go offlist? No, my mistake, sorry. I didn't check 'To:' field. > > Ok, try from the other end - transfer an encrypted file, encrypt your > > backup and compare those. It's a kludge, of course, but worth the > > effort. > I

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Brian
On Fri 19 Sep 2014 at 20:59:54 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 19 sep 14, 18:14:42, Joe wrote: > > I'd certainly prefer that a systemd upgrade wasn't mandatory > > during a wheezy-jessie upgrade. > > See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762194 It seems to > me like whateve

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/18/2014 09:30 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 09/18/2014 11:50 AM, Haines Brown wrote: I normally reinstall the operating system on a refreshed HD with a Debian Installer each time there is an upgrade. +1 Then I copy over my custom directories (such as /usr/local/share) Assuming /us

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/19/2014 05:07 AM, softwatt wrote: Perfect. Thanks :) Assume this fails. What's the worst case scenario? I don't mind a broken system, I *do* mind losing my /home/ folder. There ya go, install the good stuff directories to /opt// (on an /opt partition) and after create links to them in

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/19/2014 01:54 AM, softwatt wrote: Also, does a clean install offer any advantage over an upgrade? It's really a pain and I prefer to avoid it, but if there are good reasons I'll do it. For me, it is less likely to blow up and leave you with something you didn't bargain for. If it does blo

MTRR: CPU 0: SYSCFG[MtrrFixDramModEn] not cleared by BIOS, clearing this bit

2014-09-19 Thread Dylan Bass
I bought a used Dell Latitude D531 laptop on eBay. I installed Debian to it. I'm getting this error everytime on boot, and waking up out of suspend mode. I would like to know how to fix or troubleshoot the problem. Output of "dmesg |grep MTRR": [0.00] [Firmware Warn]: MTRR: CPU 0: SYSCF

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Ric Moore
On 09/19/2014 02:54 AM, Reco wrote: On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:51:30 +0300 softwatt wrote: Can Jessie keep my home partition intact and just overwrite the other partition? Current Debian installer can be persuaded to do so, sure. You can do even better - co-install Jessie with the current Wheezy

Re: MTRR: CPU 0: SYSCFG[MtrrFixDramModEn] not cleared by BIOS, clearing this bit

2014-09-19 Thread Sven Hartge
Dylan Bass wrote: > I bought a used Dell Latitude D531 laptop on eBay. I installed Debian > to it. I'm getting this error everytime on boot, and waking up out of > suspend mode. I would like to know how to fix or troubleshoot the > problem. Two possible solutions: a) Update the BIOS b) igno

Re: MTRR: CPU 0: SYSCFG[MtrrFixDramModEn] not cleared by BIOS, clearing this bit

2014-09-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:18:47 -0600 Dylan Bass wrote: Hello Dylan, >it. I'm getting this error everytime on boot, and waking up out of >suspend Those aren't errors but warnings. You're being warned (i.e. told) that something was odd, but has been corrected. To avoid the issue, best advice see

Re: Choice of init system?

2014-09-19 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 09/19/2014 10:52 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 08:15:57PM -0400, Ed Jabbour wrote: Does (or will) the Jessie install offer a choice of systemd or sys5init? Seems like it will offer a choice. How obvious that there is a choice, I have no idea about, you/we will have to wa

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 21:08:45 +0400 Reco wrote: > 4) Why re-implementing systemd? Writing your own init is much more > fun, as [1] shows to us. What other things, besides firing up /dev/tty* and running all daemons, does an init program absolutely have to do? For authentication, is there any way

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread David Christensen
On 09/19/2014 12:20 PM, Ric Moore wrote: I always keep a rather large /opt directory on it's own partition. There I keep all the personal stuff that has nothing to do with the install of the / directory/partition. All of the usual user directories, such as Documents, Downloads, Music, Videos and

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread David Christensen
On 09/18/2014 10:54 PM, softwatt wrote: Also, does a clean install offer any advantage over an upgrade? Yes, because: 1. You get a systems programming product that has been through a quality assurance process. 2. It is easier to trouble-shoot if you run into problems -- both for you and

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:25 AM, Ric Moore wrote: > On 09/19/2014 05:07 AM, softwatt wrote: >> >> Perfect. Thanks :) >> >> Assume this fails. What's the worst case scenario? I don't mind a broken >> system, I *do* mind losing my /home/ folder. > > > > There ya go, install the good stuff directorie

Re: How to write an init.d script which runs a perl program?

2014-09-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 19 sep 14, 13:47:50, Thomas H. George wrote: My system is Wheezy and I would like to add a script to init.d run a simple perl program at startup. ... Can someone give me a simple example script? /etc/init.d/skeleton Neat! Never knew that was around... Hugo

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 20/09/14 01:38, Bret Busby wrote: > On 19/09/2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > > >> >> Have you successfully run any version of Skype on that build previously? >> > > In a message posted last month, was; Which'd be why I didn't read it. > > " > -- Forwarded message -- > Fr

Re: Hibernate not working anymore

2014-09-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Slavko wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 19 Sep 2014 18:14:42 +0200 Erwan David napísal: Hello I used to have a working hibernation. But I upgraded RAM from 8G to 16G So I also made a bigger swap partition for hibernation. Now I see the disk activity when going to hibernation, when starting the laptop,

Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-19 Thread Frank Miles
Strange. Doing a web-search, I find a page for the geda-gaf package (old form at https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/geda-gaf.html which seems to say that geda-gaf is part of stable, testing, and unstable. There are update dates from earlier in 2014. But if I search on the Debian web-site,

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:55:41PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: >> Erwan David writes: >> > It is also importat to know if it is worth the effort to report bugs >> > on software which happen in a systemd-shim or sysvinitcore without any >> >

Re: Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-19 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/19/14, Frank Miles wrote: > Strange. Doing a web-search, I find a page for the geda-gaf package (old > form at > https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/geda-gaf.html > which seems to say that geda-gaf is part of stable, testing, and unstable. > There are update dates from earlier in 2014. >

Re: Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-19 Thread Brian
On Fri 19 Sep 2014 at 22:42:23 +, Frank Miles wrote: > Strange. Doing a web-search, I find a page for the geda-gaf package (old > form at > https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/geda-gaf.html > which seems to say that geda-gaf is part of stable, testing, and unstable. > There are update dat

Re: Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-19 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/19/14, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 9/19/14, Frank Miles wrote: >> Strange. Doing a web-search, I find a page for the geda-gaf package (old >> form at >> https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/geda-gaf.html >> which seems to say that geda-gaf is part of stable, testing, and >> unstable. >> T

Re: Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-19 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/19/14, Brian wrote: > > geda-gaf is the name of the source package. I think you want to search > with "geda". That explains what I found then. Am on dialup and it's just too much to try to download those 6+MB sized files purely to peek inside for what they contain.. :)) Cindy -- Cindy-Su

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, David Christensen wrote: > On 09/18/2014 10:54 PM, softwatt wrote: > >Also, does a clean install offer any advantage over an upgrade? > > Yes, because: > > 1. You get a systems programming product that has been through a > quality assurance process. Users of debian test both

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread John Hasler
Joel Rees writes: > I'm sure you don't mean that reportbug is able to automatically > generate the patches. That would be reportbug-ng-ng version .01. Not quite ready for uploading to Experimental. Its still got a few bugs that it hasn't been able to generate patches for yet. -- John Hasler jh

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 1:36 AM, T.J. Duchene wrote: > I do not understand something that has been bugging me for a while and I'd > like to ask the many minds of the list why this would not be possible, > especially since Debian has some of the best Linux people out there, who > have worked on the

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Joel Rees
I'm tending to think you intended these as rhetorical, but I'm also inclined to believe that many on the list won't see what we wish was obvious, so I'm going to respond. On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:08 AM, Reco wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 11:36:58 -0500 > "T.J. Duchene" wrote: > >> Why is it not

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:27 AM, John Hasler wrote: > Joel Rees writes: >> I'm sure you don't mean that reportbug is able to automatically >> generate the patches. > > That would be reportbug-ng-ng version .01. Not quite ready for > uploading to Experimental. Its still got a few bugs that it has

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 21:08:45 +0400 > Reco wrote: > > >> 4) Why re-implementing systemd? Writing your own init is much more >> fun, as [1] shows to us. > > What other things, besides firing up /dev/tty* and running all > daemons, does an init pr

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread agr
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 08:59:54PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 19 sep 14, 18:14:42, Joe wrote: > > I'd certainly prefer that a systemd upgrade wasn't mandatory > > during a wheezy-jessie upgrade. > > See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762194 It seems to > me like what

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:34:02 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 1:36 AM, T.J. Duchene > wrote: > > What systemd does is basically a generic process of reading > > parameters from a file and using them to start a service. > > If that were true, I don't think anyone would be fussin

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread John Hasler
agr writes: > Do you know, why DDs are insisting to include a bit of Systemd? What bit might that be? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
softwatt wrote: I knew that one day I'd have to upgrade so I put my home folder on a different partition. The 'unclean partition' install, not much info out there, but with Debian you can delete system files and keep what you want, using the same 'user' name do the install but do not format

re: Slight New Sound Problem

2014-09-19 Thread T.J. Duchene
Martin, I'm sorry you had problems with my suggestion. Most often, these problems have to be handled by trial and error. I'm afraid I can only offer advice based on my own experience and the fact you mentioned you were using Pulseaudio. I assumed you had it already installed and was using it. A

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread softwatt
I do not intend to upgrade now. I ask in order to learn. (: signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-19 Thread Frank Miles
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 01:20:01 +0200, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 9/19/14, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: >> On 9/19/14, Frank Miles wrote: >>> Strange. Doing a web-search, I find a page for the geda-gaf package >>> (old form at >>> https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/geda-gaf.html >>> which seems to

Re: apache2 what is the standard way to enable modules?

2014-09-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Harry Putnam wrote: > Raffaele Morelli writes: > >> Is that what you are warning about? > > > > Nope, my warning was to use `a2enmod cgi` instead of `a2enmod cgi.load` > > (which is wrong) > > OK, thanks. But once again you've failed to explain the nature of the > wrongness. > > Can you define w

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 20 September 2014 05:40:40 softwatt wrote: > I do not intend to upgrade now. I ask in order to learn. (: At that rate, wait and read the release notes before upgrading. Sometimes it is slightly more complicated than that. E.g., I think, Squeeze to Wheezy. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 19 September 2014 07:56:14 softwatt wrote: > But that is not risk-free. What if the thing that's overwriting the file > on startup dislikes not being able to write to the file and crashes? > > By the way, my solution would fail if the overwriting is happening after > startup. softwatt, d

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 19 September 2014 15:57:38 Reco wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:38:23 +0500 > > Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > thinks for your input. but i want to investigate which process is doing > > this? > > Please do not top post. Better top-posting than not quoting at all. Well, less awful any

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 20/09/2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 20/09/14 01:38, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 19/09/2014, Scott Ferguson >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> Have you successfully run any version of Skype on that build previously? >>> >> >> In a message posted last month, was; > > > Which'd be why I didn't read it. >

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 20 September 2014 07:32:54 Bret Busby wrote: > It has just occurred to me - I believe that the appropriuate term for > the Microsucks action, is crippleware. Microsucks has crippled > versions of Skype, that have version numbers earlier than 4.3. I don't use Skype so can't test, but wh

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-19 Thread softwatt
Why is quoting always needed? Mail clients know which mail is a reply to which. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature