Re: exim with both smarthost and direct send

2002-10-21 Thread Michael West
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 07:49:25PM +0200, Patrik Modesto wrote: > Hi, > First: I'm using Debian testing, daily updated as my home PC, exim is > setup to send outgoing mail directly to MX record. > Second: Now I need to setup exim to send all mail for some domain > through my ISP's smtp server. > >

Mailing list software for debian.org

2002-10-21 Thread Mike Egglestone
Hi, Which software package does this mailing list use to run the list? I understand that Mailman is popular but wonder what others are out there. Mostly curious as to what this list uses. Thanks Mike - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.or

Re: Mailing list software for debian.org

2002-10-21 Thread Claudio Bley
On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 18:54, Mike Egglestone wrote: > Quoting Mike Egglestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hi, > > Which software package does this mailing list use > > to run the list? > > I understand that Mailman is popular but wonder what > > others are out there. Mostly curious as to what > >

exim with both smarthost and direct send

2002-10-21 Thread Patrik Modesto
Hi, First: I'm using Debian testing, daily updated as my home PC, exim is setup to send outgoing mail directly to MX record. Second: Now I need to setup exim to send all mail for some domain through my ISP's smtp server. So how to setup exim to do this? Thanks Patrik msg08150/pgp0.pgp Des

Re: Missing packages on CD?

2002-10-21 Thread John Hasler
Rob writes: > I'm not sure where they fit on the CDs tho. Non-free and contrib are not included in the official Debian CD images. Any vendor could add packages from them if he wanted to, but he'd have to read all the licenses to find out which non-free packages he could legally distribute. So far

Re: Problems install, DVD on hdc

2002-10-21 Thread daves work
On Monday 21 Oct 2002 12:46 am, Gerard Robin wrote: > On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 10:03:49PM +0100, daves work wrote: > > On Sunday 20 Oct 2002 11:28 pm, you wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 10:33:46AM +0100, dave jk wrote: > > > > mount: /dev/hdc is not a valid block device > > > > > > > > >

Re: OT: The Simpsons

2002-10-21 Thread Robert L. Harris
No, it was Diamond Joe's nephew who was framed for beating up the amazingly clumbsy waiter. Thus spake Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:20:12 -0700 > To: Debian-User List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: OT: The Simpsons > From: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-M

Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)

2002-10-21 Thread Michael Cardenas
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:49:34PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > [I am not subscribed to -user.] > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > - broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody) > > You'll have to persuade the upstream bash/libreadline cabal tha

Re: How to pronounce "Debian"?

2002-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 10:20:06AM -0400, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > I thought it was the Quimby nephew, come to think of it... Not even close. -- Baloo msg08155/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

bibtex command in Auctex/Xemacs

2002-10-21 Thread Neilen
Hi. I'm using Xemacs from sid, and the AucTeX that go with it. If I use C-c C-c to compile my latex document, and it then tells me I need to run BibTeX, the command entry it automatically generates seems to be wrong. It is bibtex, instead of BiBTeX. If I press enter then, it gives an error abou

Re: Mailing list software for debian.org

2002-10-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:54:07AM -0700, Mike Egglestone wrote: [headers] From: Mike Egglestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mike Egglestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What the heck? You Bcc:ed the list? This makes it difficult to use most sane email programs to respond to you. > Quoting Mike Egglestone

Re: Lighter window managers

2002-10-21 Thread Jason Wojciechowski
Hello Jamin, On Oct 21, "Jamin W.Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > this is a complete minimalist one liner: | > | > apt-get install fluxbox xterm mozilla xmms xchat gaim xserver-xfree86 | > gpm xbase-clients xfonts-100dpi xfonts-base xscreesaver linuxlogo | > xpenguins | | You can'

Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot

2002-10-21 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On 21 Oct 2002 13:26:46 +0800 Crispin Wellington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I would look at the commercial distro's dependency hell and say "This > is simple fundamental stuff, the kind of thing Debian had sorted out > back in 97 when no one knew what Linux even was." Absolutely. This and t

Re: Mailing list software for debian.org

2002-10-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:51:45AM -0700, Mike Egglestone wrote: > Which software package does this mailing list use > to run the list? Smartlist. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: Lighter window managers

2002-10-21 Thread jeff
Russell wrote: Hi all, I've been using fvwm2, and it has tons of configuration options, which i find hard to master. What are some good window managers that are even more light weight, have less options (simpler to configure), and work well? I'm into functionality more than flashness. A large

Re: custom kernel compilation scripts

2002-10-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Michael West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.21.2005 +0200]: > the `make-kpkg --added-patches` option allows you to specify which > patches to apply for a specific kernel build. right. but the modules aren't so easily handled. > What kind of interface are you looking for? Something li

rage128 and dri (?)

2002-10-21 Thread Phil Reardon
I am trying to get XFree86 4.2 to like my rage 128 video card. I can get a grey X screen up and mouse around, but thats all. When I ctrl-alt-backspace, I see these messages on the console: I am running kernel 2.4.18 - bf2.4 on sid. (EE) R128(0): No DFP detected (EE) R128(0): [dri] R128DRISc

Re: inittab and graphical login

2002-10-21 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Mark L. Kahnt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021021 08:11]: > If you are going to get into shuffling around these items, I would > suspect that long-term package management considerations *might* be > better respected if you use update-rc.d(8) to make your changes, rather > than just diving in and renaming

OT: The Simpsons

2002-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 04:09:55AM +1000, Rob Weir wrote: > Er, I think he means the character that said: > "It's chawdah! Say it right! Chawdah! Chawdah!" > was Quimby's nephew. Oh. I thought you were talking about some mysterious Kennedy relative. You might be right, though I'm fairly certa

Re: How to pronounce "Debian"?

2002-10-21 Thread Dave Thurman (Mailing List Email)
on 10/21/02 12:06 PM, Paul Johnson stated: > Pick any character or place that is a regular part of the show and > explain where Groening got the idea for it. I'll post my sources when > I post the Quimby question. > > Hint: Matt Groening is a native Oregonian and damn proud of it. Springfield

x startup

2002-10-21 Thread Billy Bump
I have just completed installing debian3.0 on my laptop. The touchpad does not work so i use a microsoft usb trackball. this trackball worked in my previous linux mandrake install. When i try to startx it fails and most of the error messages are about the mouse not being present. anybody have a

Re: inittab and graphical login

2002-10-21 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Lance Simmons ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021021 08:28]: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 08:28:54AM -0500, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > > "Paul" == Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Paul> Go into /etc/rc2.d and mv S99gdm K99gdm and this should > > Paul> prevent gdm from starting up. > >

Re: x startup

2002-10-21 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Billy Bump ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021021 12:28]: > I have just completed installing debian3.0 on my laptop. The touchpad does > not work so i use a microsoft usb trackball. this trackball worked in my > previous linux mandrake install. When i try to startx it fails and most of > the error messag

Re: custom kernel compilation scripts

2002-10-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Simon Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.21.2116 +0200]: > You might want to look at the kernellab package, which appears > to do what you want. it can't do modules, patches and version yet, so effectively, it is only a centralized repository for configs. i have that part working.

Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot

2002-10-21 Thread Joey Hess
Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:51:33PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > echo expert >~/.dselect.cfg > > Holy schnikes, Batman! Why isn't this obviously documented? YM in the man page? Well, it is. You can also use dselect --expert of course. -- see shy jo msg08171/pgp0.pgp

Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)

2002-10-21 Thread Michael Cardenas
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 02:45:44PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:15:16PM -0700, Michael Cardenas wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:49:34PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > > > > > - broken ho

Re: x startup

2002-10-21 Thread Kent West
Billy Bump wrote: The laptop is a gateway 2300 p200 with neomagic video card and tft display and a 4.1 gb harddrive. The touch pad does not work at all i have been working to fix it but is broken now. That doesn't quite answer Vineet's question. Is the touch pad physically broken (cracks, smo

Re: How to pronounce "Debian"?

2002-10-21 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 08:28, Kent West wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > >On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 10:59:03PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: > > > > > >>>Well, the capital city is called bus-ten ("ten" that rhymes with "ster" > >>>above), right? > >>> > >>> > >>Nah, it's more like "bah-stin". A

Re: purge packages already removed

2002-10-21 Thread David Z Maze
Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 21 Oct 2002, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: >> one thing i missed out on was that instaed of purging the packages, i >> removed them. if i understand correctly, it means that the configuration >> and other files will be on the system still. (Just the p

Re: Mailing list software for debian.org

2002-10-21 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Monday 21 October 2002 18:51, Mike Egglestone wrote: > Which software package does this mailing list use > to run the list? Dunno, but... > I understand that Mailman is popular but wonder what > others are out there. I run Mailman, but there are many things I don't like with it. I'm looking

Re: booting to console

2002-10-21 Thread Bijan Soleymani
Phil Reardon wrote: How can I boot to the console? I am stuck in a loop at the graphical login screen due to a faulty XF86Config file (I think!) Phil Reardon You can boot from a floppy or a cd. Then mount your drive, fix the problem and reboot. Or if you're feeling lucky you can hold cont

Permissions for a FAT partition

2002-10-21 Thread Rich
Howdy all, I want to change the default permissions of files in a FAT partition. I understand that FAT file systems have no concept of permission or ownership. When I mount the partition ownership is set to root and permissions are set to 755. This means that only root can write to it. I'd li

Re: Apache configuration and host names?

2002-10-21 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021021 11:19]: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 01:45:55PM +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote: > > Why does it still redirect to baboon.localnet? Or might it be my client, > > Because you have that set in your /etc/hosts. Change it and all will > be good. He did say th

Re: xdm config help

2002-10-21 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 11:18:42AM -0700, Paul Mackinney wrote: > Karl E. Jorgensen declaimed: > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 11:10:39PM -0700, Paul Mackinney wrote: > > > I'm trying to set up xdm. Whenever I boot the last message I see before > > > the login prompt is: > > > > > > Not starting X Dis

Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)

2002-10-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:15:16PM -0700, Michael Cardenas wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:49:34PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > > > - broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody) > > > > You'll have to persuad

Re: Lighter window managers

2002-10-21 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 15:26:57 -0400 jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/ > > and a nice screenshot of my current desktop: > > http://home.earthlink.net/~jmr71769/screenshot.jpg > > this is a complete minimalist one liner: > > apt-get install fluxbox xterm mozilla xm

Re: custom kernel compilation scripts

2002-10-21 Thread Vineet Kumar
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021021 12:31]: > in the meantime, maybe someone can tell me what to do about the > /usr/src/modules and /usr/src/kernel-patches trees, which are owned > by root. the last time i built a kernel as root must have been like > 1876 or so... and at least kernel-pat

Re: Modem Ring Event

2002-10-21 Thread Joey Hess
Tom Cook wrote: > Can it SMS me the DHCP'd address too? It can run arbitrary scripts after catching the ring event, so if you can write a script that can do that, it can run it. -- see shy jo msg08184/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Problems with isdn...

2002-10-21 Thread Randy Orrison
I have installed an Asus ISDNLink 128k card (it says on the box P-IN100-ST-D, and on the card 80-TA200S106-1) in my debian box. I've done modconf and added isdn and hisax (I'm using the 2.2.20 kernel). I installed isapnptools and have tried to use pnpdump to see what the io and irq parameters sho

Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot

2002-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:51:33PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > echo expert >~/.dselect.cfg Holy schnikes, Batman! Why isn't this obviously documented? > What confused me is that both reviews chose to go into dselect, even > though the woody installer defaults to not running it if you choose to > r

RE: x startup

2002-10-21 Thread Billy Bump
The laptop is a gateway 2300 p200 with neomagic video card and tft display and a 4.1 gb harddrive. The touch pad does not work at all i have been working to fix it but is broken now. the trackball is pu=luged into the usb port and the system looks to /dev/gmpdata and i guess yes to the gmp quest

Re: LDAP address book - where to start?

2002-10-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.19.0819 +0200]: > it seems like the debian slapd is build with tls so no need to > manually build it, apt-get install should work. or is there some other > reason for manual buid? AFAIK, testing's has SSL/TLS, but i can't get either to work.

RE: apache query

2002-10-21 Thread Randy Orrison
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Randy Orrison wrote: >> Note that in /etc/apache/httpd.conf just after the /doc/ alias line >> is: >> >>order deny,allow >>deny from all >>allow from 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 >>Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews >> > (snip) > > No

Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)

2002-10-21 Thread Branden Robinson
[I am not subscribed to -user.] On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > - broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody) You'll have to persuade the upstream bash/libreadline cabal that actually supporting DEC VT100 and later terminal emulation is a worthwhile thi

Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot

2002-10-21 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Jamin W.Collins wrote: > Without a doubt. Why not educate your friends about how their PCs work? > A fundamental problem today is that people don't understand the "how" and > "why". To attempt to protect the user from how a PC operates is IMHO to > do much more harm than go

Re: custom kernel compilation scripts

2002-10-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.21.1343 +0200]: > It's hardly a lot to type in, and surely you don't do kernel compiles > *that* often... (if you do, why? It seems to indicate a curiosity > that could be better directed...) i operate 57 machines each with their own kernel. some

Re: Lighter window managers

2002-10-21 Thread B. Yuksel
If you are looking for something tight, try BlackBox or if you are a complete minimalist, ratpoison should be just for you. - From: Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Lighter window managers "rjshaw" == rjshaw wri

Re: inittab and graphical login

2002-10-21 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
Shyamal Prasad wrote: Paul> Go into /etc/rc2.d and mv S99gdm K99gdm and this should Paul> prevent gdm from starting up. IMHO this is a better way (and more correct) than apt-removing gdm. You should do the same for S99kdm and S99xdm if you have them. This way you can always change your ru

Re: Why Cant I unsubscribe?

2002-10-21 Thread Greg Ray
Obviously I have followed the instructions on the end of all the letters hence when I tried to unsubscribe I got a unknown name error. As to flaming the boards I am not that immature but as to the listmaster I have tried e-mailing him several times with no response, that would be debians que to get

Missing packages on CD?

2002-10-21 Thread Victor Munoz
Hi. I downloaded CD images of woody last month, to take them home and install new packages as needed. I used jigdo. I also use woody at my office, where I install via internet connection. This weekend I noticed there are three packages that don't seem to be in my CDs, but which are part of th

Re: Lighter window managers

2002-10-21 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
> I *could* see xfce being a viable option, except that when I ran it, it > just didn't look, well, all that good. The icons looked like they were > drawn by someone that *had to put something there* to identify the > buttons, and there was a lot of *reinventing the wheel* with > applications that

Bits from the uw-imap maintainer [update]

2002-10-21 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
Just an update on some of the issues raised last time around. Last night I upload upstream 2002 RC8 to my apt-repository (see below for URLs) A method has been found for enabling plaintext logins without recompiling. I thought of making this an option in the debconf dialog but ultimately decided

x start

2002-10-21 Thread Billy Bump
-Original Message- From: Kent West [mailto:westk@;acu.edu] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: x startup ok the touch pad in not cracked but it does not work in any configuration windows98, linux, mandrake kde. It quit and I have not fixed it yet. I

Re: Debian Gamers/Developers

2002-10-21 Thread James Hughes
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 11:46:49AM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:24:53 -0500 Gianfranco Berardi > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I agree. Debian and Linux in general sorely needs a decent Pacman game > > Yea... but can we do so without infringing on some copyright? *s

Re: custom kernel compilation scripts

2002-10-21 Thread Michael West
> Maybe I am not quite clear on the modules and patches thing. > > I want to go ahead and produce kernel-image and kernel-headers with > a selection of the installed kernel-patch and *-modules packages. > > Say I have kernel-patch-freeswan, kernel-patch-2.4-grsecurity, > kernel-patch-vlan, and ke

Re: which half are you in?

2002-10-21 Thread Shawn Lamson
--- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:04:22AM -0700, Dave Carrigan wrote: > > I am in the second half. I've never done rm -r anywhere important. > I > > have however done a mkfs on a partition that was supposed to be > part of > > a Disksuite stripeset. Does that

Re: custom kernel compilation scripts

2002-10-21 Thread Simon Law
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 08:42:31PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > yes, that in combination with a rcfile listing the combinations allows > me to do > kcompile 2.4.19 albatros > > but the script is a *bad* hack, and i think there's a lot that i am > doing wrong. > > i'd like to hear from the ad

Re: exim configuration

2002-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 08:08:20PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: > the way i look at it is, i am connected to the net. i have dns servers > resolving hostnames for me. do i still need something else *on some > other machine* to send mails? Only if your ISP won't let you send directly, or you s

Re: Mailing list software for debian.org

2002-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 07:28:31PM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > I run Mailman, but there are many things I don't like with it. I'm > looking to move to Sympa, but there is quite a lot of configuration to > be done before I can get it to do what I want, so I haven't started the > transition, b

Re: which half are you in?

2002-10-21 Thread Paul Smith
%% Dave Carrigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: dc> On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 14:29, dave mallery wrote: >> those who have done an rm -R * in root and those who have not done >> it yet. dc> I am in the second half. I've never done rm -r anywhere dc> important. I have however done a mkfs on a

Re: Lighter window managers

2002-10-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:42:15PM -0400, Chip Rose wrote: > On Monday 21 October 2002 12:23 pm, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: > > Use xscreensaver, it has a lock feature. > - > Ok - I remember using it several years ago, but it would lock up my *entire* > computer. I also had this problem with

Re: Terminal like server for linux

2002-10-21 Thread Curtis Vaughan
Unfortunately, when trying ot install xlibs-dev, I get the following error. Can I force it? And is it advisable? Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: xlibs-dev: Depends: xlibs (= 4.1.0-16) but 4.1.0-17 is to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages Crispin Wellington wrote:

Re: exim configuration

2002-10-21 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Sandip P Deshmukh said: > well, here is what i discovered wrt questions shyamal had asked. > > i am yet to understand the term smtp smart host. > > the way i look at it is, i am connected to the net. i have dns servers > resolving hostnames for me. do i still need som

Re: inittab and graphical login

2002-10-21 Thread David Z Maze
"Mark L. Kahnt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you are going to get into shuffling around these items, I would > suspect that long-term package management considerations *might* be > better respected if you use update-rc.d(8) to make your changes, rather > than just diving in and renaming files t

Re: inittab and graphical login

2002-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 08:28:54AM -0500, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > BTW, in Debian all multi-user run levels are set up to be the same by > default. You are supposed to customize them as you need. So you can go back to the default setting, if you fixed it the way I suggest, by typing init 3 or init

Re: Backup Script

2002-10-21 Thread Auke Jilderda
On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 12:19:11PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > Read the following page, then modify the associated script to your > system. It's geared toward tape. For drive-to-drive, I'd suggest rsync > rather than tar. Why? Auke -- PGP: 0x4A34DD6D, http://bunny.sourceforge.net/ m

browsers choke on Asian chars

2002-10-21 Thread Kevin Coyner
I've got a strange one here that I can't figure out ... Galeon, Opera and Mozilla all choke if I go to any websites that use Asian characters. By choke I mean freeze up - the browser can't be used nor can it be killed except by through its PID. I asked some other Linux users to check out their

Re: rage128 and dri (?)

2002-10-21 Thread Bob Underwood
sent to poster in error. message to list below. On Monday 21 October 2002 14:17, Phil Reardon wrote: > I am trying to get XFree86 4.2 to like my rage 128 video card. I > can get a grey X screen up and mouse around, but thats all. When I > ctrl-alt-backspace, I see these messages on the consol

Re: Debian Gamers/Developers

2002-10-21 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:48:16 -0400 James Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 11:46:49AM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > Yea... but can we do so without infringing on some copyright? > > Basically, you can't copyright an idea, only the expression of an > idea. So, any co

Re: Apache configuration and host names?

2002-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 01:45:55PM +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote: > Why does it still redirect to baboon.localnet? Or might it be my client, Because you have that set in your /etc/hosts. Change it and all will be good. > ps. Please CC. No. If you want a private tutor, hire one, don't expect

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2002 #206

2002-10-21 Thread Dale K Dicks
When I boot up I get "Cannot locate char-major-6" It seems like it is when the discover script is running that this happens. Correct me if I am wrong but I think char-major-6 is the LPT Port. I don't have LPT enabled in my kernel or as a module because I don't need it as I do all printing over t

Re: Permissions for a FAT partition

2002-10-21 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Rich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021021 11:51]: > Howdy all, > > I want to change the default permissions of files in a FAT partition. I > understand that FAT file systems have no concept of permission or > ownership. When I mount the partition ownership is set to root and > permissions are set to

openssl: changing the attributes within a CA

2002-10-21 Thread martin f krafft
is it possible to change the parameters stored inside a CA certificate (self-signed), or do i have to create a new CA? -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; net@madduck because light travels faster than sound, some people

Re: Mailing list software for debian.org

2002-10-21 Thread Mike Egglestone
Quoting Mike Egglestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > Which software package does this mailing list use > to run the list? > I understand that Mailman is popular but wonder what > others are out there. Mostly curious as to what > this list uses. Ahh, after checking around a bit more, Majordomo l

Need help installing PHP (Linux) with MySQL and Apache

2002-10-21 Thread Chip Rose
I can't get PHP-4.2.3 compiled to work with MySQL and Apache, despite months of trying. Apache compiled ok, and so did MySQL -both work, on my Debian Linux box. I've tried various combos of installing the Deb packages, compiling from source, and various combinations thereto. I started out usi

Re: which half are you in?

2002-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:04:22AM -0700, Dave Carrigan wrote: > I am in the second half. I've never done rm -r anywhere important. I > have however done a mkfs on a partition that was supposed to be part of > a Disksuite stripeset. Does that count? I'm pretty sure you just won this worst-data-acc

Re: Debian Gamers/Developers

2002-10-21 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 04:00:25PM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > So, you're telling me that a game with a yellow circle chomping little > dots in a blue maze being chased by ghosts can be created without > infringing upon Pac-Man? I don't claim to be a lawyer and don't recall > ever having done

RE: apache query

2002-10-21 Thread Mark Carroll
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Randy Orrison wrote: (snip) > Sorry for assuming. Those lines are there in the fresh install Woody No problem. > system at one of my jobs, and my Potato-upgraded-to-Woody systems at home > and at my other job. It seems odd that whatever upgrade put the Alias It may be that

Re: which half are you in?

2002-10-21 Thread Robin
Dave Carrigan wrote: On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 14:29, dave mallery wrote: those who have done an rm -R * in root and those who have not done it yet. I am in the second half. I've never done rm -r anywhere important. I have however done a mkfs on a partition that was supposed to be part of a

Re: Enterprise Kernel

2002-10-21 Thread Tyler F. Creelan
> > I had to re-compile the kernel to map the RAM above 1GB. > > ...on one machine with 4 Xeons, 4.5GB RAM. Did you also enable PAE mode for 36-bit addressing? Technically you're only seeing 4.2 Gb (2^32) on that Xeon box even with highmem enabled, right? Or would the drawbacks of larger VM table

Re: cross platform development

2002-10-21 Thread Michael D. Crawford
Try ZooLib, it is the best thing since sliced bread. Compile native applications for Linux, Win32, Mac OS and BeOS written from a single C++ source base with very little need for platform specific client code. http://zoolib.sourceforge.net/ There is the beginnings of a tutorial at: http://www.

echo message to users screen

2002-10-21 Thread Mike Egglestone
Hi, I'm looking for a way I can send a small message to a user that is logged into the same box as me. If I run # w to see who is logged in, then I would like to echo something to their screen so I can tell them something. Any ideas? Thanks Mike

Re: echo message to users screen

2002-10-21 Thread Mark Ferlatte
begin Mike Egglestone quote on Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 02:43:08PM -0700: > Hi, > I'm looking for a way I can send a small message to a user > that is logged into the same box as me. > If I run > # w > to see who is logged in, then I would like to echo something > to their screen so I can tell them so

Re: echo message to users screen

2002-10-21 Thread nate
Mike Egglestone said: > Hi, > I'm looking for a way I can send a small message to a user > that is logged into the same box as me. > If I run > # w > to see who is logged in, then I would like to echo something > to their screen so I can tell them something. echo "THE COMPUTER IS ON FIRE LOG OFF

Re: echo message to users screen

2002-10-21 Thread nate
nate said: > echo "THE COMPUTER IS ON FIRE LOG OFF NOW!!!" >>/dev/pts/X > > where X is the tty they are logged in on > > or you can do > > echo "THE COMPUTER IS ON FIRE LOG OFF NOW!!" | wall > > to send a message to everyone logged on I forgot to mention that the first method usually requires roo

Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)

2002-10-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 01:21:00PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 02:45:44PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Whining about Debian developers whining about upstream implies that you > > expect Debian developers to fix every problem. For instance, I suppose > My problem is

Re: echo message to users screen

2002-10-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Mike Egglestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-21 14:43:08 -0700]: > I'm looking for a way I can send a small message to a user > that is logged into the same box as me. > If I run > # w > to see who is logged in, then I would like to echo something > to their screen so I can tell them something. Do

Re: custom kernel compilation scripts

2002-10-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.21.2226 +0200]: > You should be able to just chown it with no ill effects. Right, but that's going to break on the next upgrade, and the other users can't use it then either... -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :pro

Re: echo message to users screen

2002-10-21 Thread Mike Egglestone
Thanks! This is exactly what I needed. Mike > I forgot to mention that the first method usually requires root > access, the second, may too. > > write is usually the 'standard' way to do it, but users can > easily disable it on their side by doing 'mesg n'. some systems > this is the default. >

Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)

2002-10-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 01:21:00PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 02:45:44PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Whining about Debian developers whining about upstream implies that you > > expect Debian developers to fix every problem. For instance, I suppose > > My problem i

Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)

2002-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 05:04:43PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > submitter to work with upstream directly, or the maintainer has to add > the bug to the bottom of his own long TODO list. I don't see why...it takes a few seconds to pass on a bug. > If a bug submitter comes to me with a well-forme

Re: echo message to users screen

2002-10-21 Thread Mike Egglestone
Hi, I wanted the write. We have lots of servers with lots of techs. Some of them are very new to Debian. So, when were working on systems its nice to chat. We use the "talk" program as you mentioned. but as root is defaulted to mesg n then its nice to echo a message to their screen to say something

Re: kernel upgrading

2002-10-21 Thread np rpr
Prasad, Thanks for your reply, I don't seen any initrd file in /boot yeas vmlinuz-2.4.19-k6 is there which is obvious. Why initrd was not installed? One more thing won't a message craete a new thread.. I am not sure please correct me. Thanks, Nitin --- Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: Debian Gamers/Developers

2002-10-21 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 11:55:52PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote: > On Monday 21 October 2002 23:25, Dave Sherohman wrote: > > That is correct, just so long as you don't use any of the original > > author/publisher's code, artwork, etc. If you create everything from > > scratch, you're completely clea

Re: Make Debian better (Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot)

2002-10-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 03:21:40PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 05:04:43PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > > submitter to work with upstream directly, or the maintainer has to add > > the bug to the bottom of his own long TODO list. > I don't see why...it takes a few seconds

"sudo su" Permission denied

2002-10-21 Thread Q. Gong
Hi, I am trying to use "sudo su -". But I always get "su: Permission denied". The purpose is to make su only available through sudo. Any ideas? Qian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: "sudo su" Permission denied

2002-10-21 Thread Christopher Swingley
> I am trying to use "sudo su -". But I always get "su: Permission > denied". Eh? Why not 'sudo bash' ? -- Christopher S. Swingley email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IARC -- Frontier Program Please use encryption. GPG key at: University of Alaska Fairbankswww.frontier.iarc.uaf.ed

GTK issues

2002-10-21 Thread Paladin
Hi all, First, I don't program, but I'll do my best to make myself clear. If it isn't enough reply directly to me! =) For some time now I've been having some problems with GTK's rendering of ISO-8859 fonts. Everytime a character with an accent appears something weird happens. In sylpheed's mes

Re: 'sudo su' Permission denied

2002-10-21 Thread nate
Q. Gong said: > Hi, > > I am trying to use "sudo su -". But I always get "su: Permission denied". > The purpose is to make su only available through sudo. Any ideas? wouldn't something like 'sudo bash' accomplish about the same thing as sudo su - ? I don't use sudo much so maybe not ... nat

No core files being created

2002-10-21 Thread Peter Nyhan
Title: No core files being created I just recently switched from FreeBSD to Debian 3.0 and transported my current C project over to this platform. My project crashed today and did not generate a core file. Ulimit -a reports that cores are set to 0. When I type ulimit -c unlimited and forced

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