Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread Steve McIntyre
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: >Franco Martelli wrote: >> On 25/07/24 at 15:07, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > Yeah... I have to use a Private window (Firefox) or an Incognito >> > window (Chrome) to duplicate this. If I'm using my regular browser >> > sessions where I'm logged in to the wiki, I do

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread debian-user
Franco Martelli wrote: > On 25/07/24 at 15:07, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Yeah... I have to use a Private window (Firefox) or an Incognito > > window (Chrome) to duplicate this. If I'm using my regular browser > > sessions where I'm logged in to the wiki, I don't get that result. > > > > When i

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread Franco Martelli
On 25/07/24 at 15:07, Greg Wooledge wrote: Yeah... I have to use a Private window (Firefox) or an Incognito window (Chrome) to duplicate this. If I'm using my regular browser sessions where I'm logged in to the wiki, I don't get that result. When in editing mode by clicking "Preview" button i

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 20:02:11 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 25/07/2024 19:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 18:54:38 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables?action=recall&rev=32 > [...] > > I can't quite guess what "text has no left margin

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/07/2024 19:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 18:54:38 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables?action=recall&rev=32 [...] I can't quite guess what "text has no left margin" means here. Firefox-115, see the attachment. Notice that "General",

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 18:54:38 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > A space before " <>" combined with 2 empty lines after > cause extra "" closing before following text. So > most of article text has no left margin. > > https://wiki.debian.org/WikiSandBox?action=recall&rev=144 > https://wiki.debian.org

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/07/2024 10:42, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 09:50:43 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables?action=raw&rev=33 has one empty line after "<>" while rev=22 has 2 empty lines and it may be more significant than a space before "<<". I assume y

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
on that team will have to be the one to fix it. I feel sympathy for anyone who's trying to translate a wiki page that keeps changing. I can only imagine how much effort that must be. I suspect that part of the reason the Debian wiki doesn't get updated as often as it probably should is because people don't want to create extra work for the translators.

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/07/2024 02:05, Franco Martelli wrote: I'm using firefox-esr version: 115.13.0esr-1~deb12u1 Here I see the TOC not indented (no space before << tag): https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables?action=raw Here instead I see the TOC indented (a space before << tag): https://wiki.debian.org

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Franco Martelli
On 24/07/24 at 20:15, Greg Wooledge wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/Permissions?action=raw here there's a space before the << tag and, as I said, clicking on the "Preview" button when in edit mode, it didn't help. Well, the table of contents is indented on that page as well. It sounds like you'

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 20:08:08 +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > On 24/07/24 at 15:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Could anybody tell me what I did wrong? > > You had a leading space before the << tag. That caused the TOC to be > > indented. I removed that. > > Oh, Thank you very much Greg, what

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Franco Martelli
On 24/07/24 at 15:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: Could anybody tell me what I did wrong? You had a leading space before the << tag. That caused the TOC to be indented. I removed that. Oh, Thank you very much Greg, what confused me it was the page that I took as reference: https://wiki.debian.or

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 15:19:29 +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables > > The trouble is that the page has lost indentation, the text begins on the > left side of the page. The only part that was indented was the table of contents itself. I fixed that. >

Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

2024-07-24 Thread Franco Martelli
Hi, I've added <> (the index of all paragraphs inside the wiki page) directive to this wiki page: https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables The trouble is that the page has lost indentation, the text begins on the left side of the page. In addition when I'm in editing mode and I click the

Re: Debian Wiki IP Address Unban Request

2023-08-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 05:02:22PM -0400, Oliver Wenston wrote: > I purchased a vps to use as my vpn server, and found out that it was black > listed from the https://wiki.debian.org/ website. I am currently using > Bookworm, and would love to be able to visit the wiki with my vpn. > > Who should

Debian Wiki IP Address Unban Request

2023-08-22 Thread Oliver Wenston
Dear Debian mailing list, I purchased a vps to use as my vpn server, and found out that it was black listed from the https://wiki.debian.org/ website. I am currently using Bookworm, and would love to be able to visit the wiki with my vpn. Who should I contact next on a private channel to get my I

Re: CPU Microcode - Debian Wiki

2023-01-10 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 1/10/23 13:12, Dan Ritter wrote: Georgi Naplatanov wrote: Hi all! I've just read Debian's Wiki page about CPU Microcode and there are mentioned Intel's and AMD's processors for AMD64 architecture. What is the situation with processors from other architectures (arm64/AArch64 for example)?

Re: CPU Microcode - Debian Wiki

2023-01-10 Thread Dan Ritter
Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > Hi all! > > I've just read Debian's Wiki page about CPU Microcode and there are > mentioned Intel's and AMD's processors for AMD64 architecture. > > What is the situation with processors from other architectures > (arm64/AArch64 for example)? > > - do they have micro

CPU Microcode - Debian Wiki

2023-01-10 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
Hi all! I've just read Debian's Wiki page about CPU Microcode and there are mentioned Intel's and AMD's processors for AMD64 architecture. What is the situation with processors from other architectures (arm64/AArch64 for example)? - do they have microcode? - can microcode be updated for t

Re: Debian wiki update: ask for review

2022-12-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 22:03:16 +0100 Yvan Masson wrote: > I made a few modifications based on your comments: > https://wiki.debian.org/GRUB2?action=diff&rev2=28&rev1=27 > > Hope it is clear now. Much better, thank you. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https:/

Re: Debian wiki update: ask for review

2022-12-01 Thread Yvan Masson
Le 01/12/2022 à 18:14, Charles Curley a écrit : On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 16:07:53 +0100 Yvan Masson wrote: I have just updated the GRUB2 page on the wiki to briefly explain how GRUB2 should be configured in case of software RAID [1]. As I am not an expert nor an English native, could someone have a

Re: Debian wiki update: ask for review

2022-12-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 16:07:53 +0100 Yvan Masson wrote: > I have just updated the GRUB2 page on the wiki to briefly explain how > GRUB2 should be configured in case of software RAID [1]. As I am not > an expert nor an English native, could someone have a look to check > this? Being a native Englis

Debian wiki update: ask for review

2022-12-01 Thread Yvan Masson
Hi, I have just updated the GRUB2 page on the wiki to briefly explain how GRUB2 should be configured in case of software RAID [1]. As I am not an expert nor an English native, could someone have a look to check this? Thanks, Yvan 1. https://wiki.debian.org/GRUB2?action=diff&rev2=27&rev1=26

Re: Debian Wiki down

2021-09-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 09:54:48PM +0200, s...@hardwarepunk.de wrote: > Hello alltogether, > > the Debian Wiki seems to be down, and I do not know where and how to > send a bug report to. If I go to any side below > https://wiki.debian.org/, I only get the following message:

Debian Wiki down

2021-09-09 Thread s...@hardwarepunk.de
Hello alltogether, the Debian Wiki seems to be down, and I do not know where and how to send a bug report to. If I go to any side below https://wiki.debian.org/, I only get the following message: Forbidden You are not allowed to access this! Greetings Sven

Re: SystemVirtualization: Debian-wiki page update?

2020-05-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 12 mai 20, 10:24:51, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > Hi, > > 12 mai 2020 à 09:55 de riveravaldezm...@gmail.com: > > > not sure if this is the place for this, but I've found a little > > confusing to find where to mention a debian-wiki issue... > > > I'

Re: SystemVirtualization: Debian-wiki page update?

2020-05-12 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 12 mai 2020 à 09:55 de riveravaldezm...@gmail.com: > not sure if this is the place for this, but I've found a little > confusing to find where to mention a debian-wiki issue... > I'm not answering the "issue" part itself but here are two pointers regarding h

SystemVirtualization: Debian-wiki page update?

2020-05-12 Thread riveravaldez
Hi, not sure if this is the place for this, but I've found a little confusing to find where to mention a debian-wiki issue... The SystemVirtualization[1] wiki-page offers as first 'Debian solution' VirtualBox[2], which is non-free and "not available in Debian 10 and won'

Re: Debian Wiki and LSB (https://wiki.debian.org/LSB)

2019-08-17 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Sat 17/Aug/2019 04:13:28 +0200 Steffen Dettmer wrote: > - https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts > - https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot > > It would be great if someone experienced could take a look. Especially > the last two pages could need more updating, since AFAIK i

Re: Debian Wiki and LSB (https://wiki.debian.org/LSB)

2019-08-16 Thread Steffen Dettmer
. Steffen On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:19 PM Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:15:32PM +0200, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > >Hi, > > is the "Debian Wiki" at [1]https://wiki.debian.org/ "official"? If > so, I > >hope her

Re: Debian Wiki and LSB (https://wiki.debian.org/LSB)

2019-08-16 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:15:32PM +0200, Steffen Dettmer wrote: >Hi, >is the "Debian Wiki" at  [1]https://wiki.debian.org/ "official"? If so, I >hope here is the right place to ask. The wiki at e.g. >[2]https://wiki.debian.org/LSB tells &q

Debian Wiki and LSB (https://wiki.debian.org/LSB)

2019-08-16 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, is the "Debian Wiki" at https://wiki.debian.org/ "official"? If so, I hope here is the right place to ask. The wiki at e.g. https://wiki.debian.org/LSB tells "Currently all major distributions comply with the LSB" and https://wiki.debian.org/DebianLsb tells

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-10-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > I thought nobody said "should better not be used," but sticking that quoted > phrase in a search engine produces over 12,000 hits. 12 thousand is not much. Popular germanisms get more. We are busy spoilers of english language. ---

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-29 Thread Lee
On 9/29/18, Dominic Knight wrote: > On Sat, 2018-09-29 at 08:59 +, Curt wrote: >> On 2018-09-28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: >> > This is not "unreliable" it is "clueless". >> > Insofar Curt's proposal is technically more correct. >> > But actually i see no improvement over my shorter statement. >>

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-29 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-29, Dominic Knight wrote: > > Maybe an implicit threat of resulting danger needs to be implied? Implicit threats? Yeah, man. Like: "Got money and DVD/BD media to burn? Then burn 'em up with wodim*, the geeky masochist's premier choice for an unspecifiable subset of his burning needs.

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-29 Thread Dominic Knight
On Sat, 2018-09-29 at 08:59 +, Curt wrote: > On 2018-09-28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > This is not "unreliable" it is "clueless". > > Insofar Curt's proposal is technically more correct. > > But actually i see no improvement over my shorter statement. > > (Maybe it's better english, but it's no

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-29 Thread Étienne Mollier
On 9/29/18 10:59 AM, Curt wrote: > Doubts now linger in my mind as to whether I haven't used up a lot of > electrons > for nothing. > > There's so many of them, though, I guess frugality isn't an issue (unless > Wheeler was right, and I've sent the one zipping all over the place). That's quit

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-29 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > This is not "unreliable" it is "clueless". > Insofar Curt's proposal is technically more correct. > But actually i see no improvement over my shorter statement. > (Maybe it's better english, but it's not better message.) I thought nobody said "should bette

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-29 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Insofar Curt's proposal is technically more correct. > But actually i see no improvement over my shorter statement. > (Maybe it's better english, but it's not better message.) As specified in the part of my article you snipped, the unique purpose of my prop

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt proposed: > Wodim has proved to fail under certain conditions and as a general rule > should probably be avoided when burning to DVD or BD media. I like this better than what Brian (i assume) committed now: https://wiki.debian.org/BurnCd?action=diff&rev1=36&rev2=37 "Wodim has pro

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: >> > So how should the statement be improved ? >> > ["wodim should better not be used with DVD or BD media."] > > Curt wrote: >> You could say: >> It is preferable not to use wodim for DVD or BD media. >> Or >> It's better to avoid using wo

discussing debian wiki on the wiki (was Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?)

2018-09-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 06:49:26PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: - Does the wiki have means to discuss facts or to leave messages to other editors why a particular change was undone ? Moin doesn't directly have the "talk" feature that some other wikis do, sorry. It can have Discussion pages v

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Brian
On Fri 28 Sep 2018 at 19:10:40 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 at 15:59:26 +, Curt wrote: > > > On 2018-09-28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > > > > Curt wrote: > > >> > It's been reverted but as the formulation is a little awkward it's too > > >> > bad we didn't take this opportunity t

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote towards Jonathan Dowland: > > Thanks for sparing me the questionable deed to revert the change myself. > > So it is not a wiki war. Brian wrote: > Why is it questionable? Either you stand behind your statement or not. Wikis going forth and back several times don't make a good impress

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > So how should the statement be improved ? > > ["wodim should better not be used with DVD or BD media."] Curt wrote: > You could say: > It is preferable not to use wodim for DVD or BD media. > Or > It's better to avoid using wodim when burning to DVD or BD media. > Or > Wodim h

Future of cdrkit. Was: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Steve McIntyre wrote: > The only 2 reasons I've had for keeping the cdrkit package in Debian > were: > 1. hfs hybrid support in genisoimage, a topic that Thomas and I have >spoken about in the past. Now that we no longer have powerpc in >Debian stable and I don't have to care about mak

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Brian
On Fri 28 Sep 2018 at 15:59:26 +, Curt wrote: > On 2018-09-28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > > Curt wrote: > >> > It's been reverted but as the formulation is a little awkward it's too > >> > bad we didn't take this opportunity to unawkwardate it. > > > > Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> I opted to

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Brian
On Fri 28 Sep 2018 at 17:47:34 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > For the avoidance of any doubt, jmtd is me (Jonathan Michael Thomas > > Dowland). > > Thanks for sparing me the questionable deed to revert the change myself. > So it is not a wiki war. Why is it q

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Steve McIntyre
Jon Dowland wrote: >On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 10:00:42PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: >>wodim is factually abandoned by its cloners Joerg Jaspert, Steve McIntyre, >>and Eduard Bloch. Its home page is gone, its change history is gone. > >That would be reason enough to avoid wodim IMHO... but it would

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hey Thomas! Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >is perhaps the Debian wiki user StephenKeeling subscribed here ? >We need to discuss the recent wiki change > https://wiki.debian.org/BurnCd?action=diff&rev1=30&rev2=31 > >Alternatively: >- Does the wiki have means to contact

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, September 28, 2018 01:32:38 AM Richard Hector wrote: > How about something like: > > "wodim may sometimes work with DVD or BD media, but the results will not > meet the relevant specifications." > > or perhaps s/work/appear to work/ I am also not an expert in this area, but I would as

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 03:59:26PM +, Curt wrote: > "should better not be used" is a bit twisted. > > You could say: > > It is preferable not to use wodim for DVD or BD media. > > Or: > > It's better to avoid using wodim when burning to DVD or BD media. > > Or: > > Wodim has proved le

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Brian
On Fri 28 Sep 2018 at 16:29:56 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 02:53:35PM +, Curt wrote: > > It's been reverted but as the formulation is a little awkward it's too > > bad we didn't take this opportunity to unawkwardate it. > > For the avoidance of any doubt, jmtd is

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Curt wrote: >> > It's been reverted but as the formulation is a little awkward it's too >> > bad we didn't take this opportunity to unawkwardate it. > > Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> I opted to restore the text exactly as it was (a pure revert) rather >> than

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > For the avoidance of any doubt, jmtd is me (Jonathan Michael Thomas > Dowland). Thanks for sparing me the questionable deed to revert the change myself. So it is not a wiki war. > I'm not involved in cdrkit development. Nobody is involved there. Else i would chew

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-28, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 02:53:35PM +, Curt wrote: >>It's been reverted but as the formulation is a little awkward it's too >>bad we didn't take this opportunity to unawkwardate it. > > For the avoidance of any doubt, jmtd is me (Jonathan Michael Thomas

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 02:53:35PM +, Curt wrote: It's been reverted but as the formulation is a little awkward it's too bad we didn't take this opportunity to unawkwardate it. For the avoidance of any doubt, jmtd is me (Jonathan Michael Thomas Dowland). I'm not involved in cdrkit developme

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-28, Curt wrote: > On 2018-09-28, Brian wrote: >> On Fri 28 Sep 2018 at 10:57:12 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: >> >>> Hm. Another user "jmtd" is editing in BurnCd. >>> Now i am curious whether the wodim-DVD-BD statement will be changed too. >> >> Have you satisfied your curiosity? > > He

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-28, Brian wrote: > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 at 10:57:12 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >> Hm. Another user "jmtd" is editing in BurnCd. >> Now i am curious whether the wodim-DVD-BD statement will be changed too. > > Have you satisfied your curiosity? He says: revert StephenKeeling's edit

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Brian
On Fri 28 Sep 2018 at 10:57:12 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hm. Another user "jmtd" is editing in BurnCd. > Now i am curious whether the wodim-DVD-BD statement will be changed too. Have you satisfied your curiosity? -- Brian.

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 12:46:27PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: I still hope for a statement by the (nominal) wodim maintainers. I spoke to one this morning, and they're aware of this thread but very busy, I think they intend to do something at some point, so watch this space :-) -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-28, Brian wrote: > On Fri 28 Sep 2018 at 11:02:37 +, Curt wrote: > >> On 2018-09-27, Brian wrote: >> > >> > "wodim should better not be used with DVD or BD media." >> >> The French Wiki has something like: >> >> It is preferable not to use wodim with DVD or BD media. >> >> Not

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > The French Wiki has something like: > It is preferable not to use wodim with DVD or BD media. It advise to stay with this for now. > > I still hope for a statement by the (nominal) wodim maintainers. Brian wrote: > Keep hoping. Well, Steve McIntyre does show up here from t

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Brian
On Fri 28 Sep 2018 at 11:02:37 +, Curt wrote: > On 2018-09-27, Brian wrote: > > > > "wodim should better not be used with DVD or BD media." > > The French Wiki has something like: > > It is preferable not to use wodim with DVD or BD media. > > Notice the elimination all weasly padding of

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Brian
On Fri 28 Sep 2018 at 12:46:27 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Brian wrote: > > Then revert the edit and link to this thread: > > wodim should [[https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/09/msg01031.html > > better|not be used]] with DVD or BD media. > > I still hope for a statement by th

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-27, Brian wrote: > > "wodim should better not be used with DVD or BD media." The French Wiki has something like: It is preferable not to use wodim with DVD or BD media. Notice the elimination all weasly padding of the "Some believe it would be better" variety (as began Keeling's un

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian wrote: > Then revert the edit and link to this thread: > wodim should [[https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/09/msg01031.html > better|not be used]] with DVD or BD media. I still hope for a statement by the (nominal) wodim maintainers. ... or maybe StephenKeeling shows up ... Ha

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Brian
On Fri 28 Sep 2018 at 10:57:12 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > -- > > The Debian BurnCd wiki page shall give tangible instructions for users, > not discuss under what circumstances inappropriate SCSI preparations > succeed neverth

Re: DVD+R DL and BD media. Was: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deloptes wrote: > I was trying to burn DVD+DL and had the feeling it does not do what I want > it to do. I trashed couple of DL DVDs - each costs ~3€. Yes. I too experienced that DVD+R DL are the most early type to fail on an ageing drive. I still have half a spindle of them, but only for the

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread deloptes
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Nevertheless, i plan to defend my version duely, unless a wodim maintainer > shows up and promises to take care of the bugs and code shortcommings. > I would be willing to help. Thanks, I suspected something wrong with DVD writing for a long time already. Your post tells m

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian proposed: > There is (strong? extensive?) evidence that wodim should not be used > with DVD or BD media. However, the many variables involved, especially > burner types and media type and quality, could result a successful > burn. There are not that many variables: Drive type: burn

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 10:00:42PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: wodim is factually abandoned by its cloners Joerg Jaspert, Steve McIntyre, and Eduard Bloch. Its home page is gone, its change history is gone. That would be reason enough to avoid wodim IMHO... but it would also suggest that wodim

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-27 Thread Richard Hector
On 28/09/18 8:00 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Greg Wooledge wrote: >> In the case of the BurnCd page, I actually *do* think that it would be >> of general interest to readers to have a paragraph explaining the limits >> of wodim, and when not to use it. > > Let me try ... hrr-umm ... > >

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-27 Thread Brian
On Thu 27 Sep 2018 at 12:07:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 05:59:42PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Alternatively: > > - Does the wiki have means to discuss facts or to leave messages > > to other editors why a particular change was undone ? > > The "Comment" box on

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > In the case of the BurnCd page, I actually *do* think that it would be > of general interest to readers to have a paragraph explaining the limits > of wodim, and when not to use it. Let me try ... hrr-umm ... wodim was cloned from cdrecord in 2006. At that time, cdrec

Re: How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 05:59:42PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Alternatively: > - Does the wiki have means to discuss facts or to leave messages > to other editors why a particular change was undone ? The "Comment" box on the edit page is the obvious place to state your reason for reverting s

How to react on a factually wrong Debian wiki change ?

2018-09-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, is perhaps the Debian wiki user StephenKeeling subscribed here ? We need to discuss the recent wiki change https://wiki.debian.org/BurnCd?action=diff&rev1=30&rev2=31 Alternatively: - Does the wiki have means to contact a particular Debian wiki user ? - Does the wiki have means to

Re: dpkg-scanpackages instructions on the Debian wiki

2018-05-15 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2018-05-15 16:12 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > It seems that the dpkg-scanpackages instructions on the Debian wiki > are wrong. In the generated Packages file, for libltdl7, I get only: > > Package: libltdl7 > Source: libtool > Version: 2.4.6-2.1+local2 > Architectu

dpkg-scanpackages instructions on the Debian wiki

2018-05-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
It seems that the dpkg-scanpackages instructions on the Debian wiki are wrong. In the generated Packages file, for libltdl7, I get only: Package: libltdl7 Source: libtool Version: 2.4.6-2.1+local2 Architecture: i386 Maintainer: Kurt Roeckx Installed-Size: 417 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14) Filen

Re: debian wiki

2017-07-10 Thread Fungi4All
> From: to...@tuxteam.de > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 08:57:35AM -0500, David Wright wrote: >> On Mon 10 Jul 2017 at 13:32:00 (+), Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: >> > On Dom, 09 Jul 2017, tomas wrote: >> > >So I thin

Re: debian wiki

2017-07-10 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 08:57:35AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 10 Jul 2017 at 13:32:00 (+), Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > On Dom, 09 Jul 2017, tomas wrote: > > >So I think the top menu only reacts to the preferred language set in > > >the

Re: debian wiki

2017-07-10 Thread David Wright
On Mon 10 Jul 2017 at 13:32:00 (+), Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Dom, 09 Jul 2017, tomas wrote: > >So I think the top menu only reacts to the preferred language set in > >the browser. The wiki content itself obeys both the URL (i.e. the > >intercalated /fr/ element) and to the browser prefe

Re: debian wiki

2017-07-10 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Dom, 09 Jul 2017, tomas wrote: So I think the top menu only reacts to the preferred language set in the browser. The wiki content itself obeys both the URL (i.e. the intercalated /fr/ element) and to the browser preference. Does this correspond with your findings? That's also what happens h

Re: debian wiki

2017-07-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 07:19:24PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 09 Jul 2017 at 17:32:29 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Perhaps that's something to communicate to the debian-www administrators, > > as detailed in https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWik

Re: debian wiki

2017-07-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Jul 2017 at 17:32:29 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Perhaps that's something to communicate to the debian-www administrators, > as detailed in https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/Contact#content-admins > or in https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/Contact#wiki-sys-admins, not > sure which

Re: debian wiki

2017-07-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 10:55:06AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote: > > From: to...@tuxteam.de [...] > > @Fungi4All: if you are interested in constructive discussions and not > > just in ranting off, please describe what you are seeing, at least > > with an U

Re: debian wiki

2017-07-09 Thread Fungi4All
> From: to...@tuxteam.de >> It"s probably based not on your IP, but on headers sent by your browser >> (Accept-Language or something like that). There should be somewhere in >> the settings where you can change that. At least on Firefox there is. > I can confirm that (tested on https://wiki.debian.

Re: debian wiki

2017-07-09 Thread tomas
locale/ip even though the language is nowhere used on > > this pc.  But debian-wiki will pick and not reverse the choice?  Even though > > I choose english the drop boxes and menus are an another language based > > on IP.  This makes life hard for traveling users. > > It&#x

Re: debian wiki

2017-07-08 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 8 de julho de 2017 17:16, Fungi4All wrote: > I thought only sites for idiots like gloogloo pick on their own the language > of > the menus based on locale/ip even though the language is nowhere used on > this pc.  But debian-wiki will pick and not reverse the choice?  Even thoug

Re: debian wiki

2017-07-08 Thread davidson
On Sat, 8 Jul 2017, Fungi4All wrote: I thought only sites for idiots like gloogloo pick on their own the language of the menus based on locale/ip even though the language is nowhere used on this pc. But debian-wiki will pick and not reverse the choice? Even though I choose english the drop

debian wiki

2017-07-08 Thread Fungi4All
I thought only sites for idiots like gloogloo pick on their own the language of the menus based on locale/ip even though the language is nowhere used on this pc. But debian-wiki will pick and not reverse the choice? Even though I choose english the drop boxes and menus are an another language

Suggested Change for Debian Wiki, Simple backport creation

2016-05-21 Thread T.J. Duchene
I'd like to suggest a change to the "Simple Backport" wikipage at https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation The page suggests using: dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc. I've found that backporting from unstable goes much more smoothly if you use: debuild -us -uc instead. The package scripts seem t

Re: Debian WIKI Forbidden for my VPN

2014-03-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
Ivan wrote: >Hello to all, > >today I try to open Debian wiki page https://wiki.debian.org/ but I got error: > >Forbidden >You are not allowed to access this! > >But when shutdown VPN connection I can to access on debian wiki page. I check >on my VPN provider and fro

Debian WIKI Forbidden for my VPN

2014-03-14 Thread Ivan Jurišić
Hello to all, today I try to open Debian wiki page https://wiki.debian.org/ but I got error: Forbidden You are not allowed to access this! But when shutdown VPN connection I can to access on debian wiki page. I check on my VPN provider and from VPN side I don't have any limitation. Any

Re: Debian Wiki account creation frozen?

2013-01-15 Thread Nate Bargmann
I was contacted by one of the admins in response to this message and it seems I got caught as a false positive in the new trap. He put me on the whitelist and my account is created and running. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fe

Re: Debian Wiki account creation frozen?

2013-01-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Nate Bargmann wrote: > Does anyone know if the Debian Wiki is accepting new accounts? I've > tried to create an account with no apparent success: > > Account creation failed: Error 913: please contact > debian-...@lists.debian.org for help if this continues. > > If t

Debian Wiki account creation frozen?

2013-01-15 Thread Nate Bargmann
Does anyone know if the Debian Wiki is accepting new accounts? I've tried to create an account with no apparent success: Account creation failed: Error 913: please contact debian-...@lists.debian.org for help if this continues. If there is no known freeze on new accounts, I'll c

Re: Debian Wiki

2013-01-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 14 ian 13, 17:08:30, Dick Thomas wrote: > > I've had bad experiences on the Gentoo wiki with people flaming and > deleting pages > so i wanted to make sure what was acceptable as the Debian wiki is a > little sparse when comapared to others If in doubt you could as

Re: Debian Wiki

2013-01-14 Thread Dick Thomas
feel I should post somewhere > > That would be great; I suppose that if (1) it is Debian related (like you > said, "fixed to work on Debian") and (2) you can find a place for it on the > wiki, then post it! I've had bad experiences on the Gentoo wiki with people flaming and

Re: Debian Wiki

2013-01-14 Thread green
Dick Thomas wrote at 2013-01-13 23:19 -0600: > are there any limits on what can be added to the wiki? > I'm asking as there are so many things on the arch wiki I've "fixed" > to work on debian > that I feel I should post somewhere That would be great; I suppose that if (1) it is Debian related (li

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