Re: KDE media players (was Re: Noatun crash at startup?)

2004-04-13 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Alejandro Exojo [Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:35:02 +0200]: > deb http://darkshines.net/debian unstable amarok > The version is 0.99, but it corresponds to 1.0-beta1, which was released > yesterday. If new betas are released, I will name them 0.999, 0., etc. > (yes, probably not the best naming sc

Re: KDE media players (was Re: Noatun crash at startup?)

2004-04-11 Thread Zack Cerza
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun April 11 2004 16:35, Alejandro Exojo wrote: > I agree. I was happy with noatun, but now I'm using very happily juk, > amarok, and kaffeine. > I am the ITP'er :-). The package isn't ready yet, but improving, so after > reading that, I will uploa

Re: KDE media players (was Re: Noatun crash at startup?)

2004-04-11 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Domingo, 11 de Abril de 2004 02:22, Zack Cerza escribió: > On Sat April 10 2004 11:01, Tom wrote: > > On my desperate search for a decent music player > > I can't offer you any advice on Noatun (it's unusable for me as well) but I > can suggest a couple of alternatives. Neither are in Debian yet

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-20 Thread Wolfgang Mader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 01:36 schrieb R. Rodriguez: > Hi. I just wanted to know why there are so many multimedia players for KDE. > Why do exist kaboodle, noatun, kplayer (named in the latest kde cvs > digest), kmplayer...?? Wouldn't be better just

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-18 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 11:01:51AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > > arts/artsd package you have installed and try againe. > > ERROR: Communication problem with noatun, it probably crashed. > > Try apt-get install kdemultimedia-dev. Must beat calc into fixing this. Please beat the reason into me as

Re: (full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-18 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 10:09:02PM +0200, Lucas Moulin wrote: > But all the replies make me believe I was wrong on this point. I got > confused about mixing and full duplex terms, but again, I don't know if > a simple card can play two sources at a time. If someone could verify > that, that would c

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread David Bishop
On Wednesday 16 April 2003 11:48 am, Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Wednesday 16 April 2003 14:54, Lucas Moulin wrote: > > You misunderstoo. I said I can't use noatun without arts running. And > > my sound card doesn't work with arts, hence my problem :( > > The second part is the one I didn't understan

Re: (full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Lucas Moulin
On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 20:49:22 +0200 Wolfgang Rohdewald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This defines simplex, half duplex, full duplex: > http://physinfo.ulb.ac.be/cit_courseware/datacomm/dc_014.htm > > This defines full duplex for sound cards (the same way) : > http://www.techtv.com/callforhelp/answer

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Lucas Moulin
On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:48:06 +0200 Kevin Krammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The second part is the one I didn't understand. > Which driver are you using for your card? > Arts always worked with OSS and ALSA drivers on my machines. I'm using OSS. I didn't say OSS or ALSA doesn't work with arts,

Re: (full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Wolfgang Rohdewald
what about google? This defines simplex, half duplex, full duplex: http://physinfo.ulb.ac.be/cit_courseware/datacomm/dc_014.htm This defines full duplex for sound cards (the same way) : http://www.techtv.com/callforhelp/answerstips/story/0,24330,2236390,00.html Does anybody have a link which def

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday 16 April 2003 14:54, Lucas Moulin wrote: > You misunderstoo. I said I can't use noatun without arts running. And > my sound card doesn't work with arts, hence my problem :( The second part is the one I didn't understand. Which driver are you using for your card? Arts always worked wit

Re: (full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Randy Kramer
On Wednesday 16 April 2003 07:27 am, Lucas Moulin wrote: > On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:45:14 +0100 (WET DST) > Joao Pedro Clemente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Are you sure about this? I was pretty confident that "full duplex" > > meant being able to send & receive simultaneously... Like speaking

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Petr Baláš
Dne st 16. dubna 2003 11:47 Tom Badran napsal(a): > On Wednesday 16 Apr 2003 10:22 am, Frank Van Damme wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 April 2003 05:59, Magnus von Koeller wrote: > > > Well, arts is a sound server. That means there can be multiple > > > clients, all sending audio data to the server. The

Re: (full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Casper Gielen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Op woensdag 16 april 2003 12:45, schreef Joao Pedro Clemente: > > > For example, you can listen to music using Noatun but still hear > > > system sounds. If your sound card doesn't support multiple parallel > > > sound inputs (there's probably a more s

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Lucas Moulin
On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 13:11:46 +0200 Kevin Krammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, it's called full duplex actually. All recent sound cards (or > > not too cheap ones) can do this. > > I think full dublex means input and output at the same time. Right. I've made a correction in my post above.

Re: (full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Lucas Moulin
On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:45:14 +0100 (WET DST) Joao Pedro Clemente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you sure about this? I was pretty confident that "full duplex" > meant being able to send & receive simultaneously... Like speaking to > mic and listening to onother sound... Yes I am. Full duplex al

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday 16 April 2003 12:16, Lucas Moulin wrote: > On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 05:59:40 +0200 > > Magnus von Koeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For example, you can listen to music using Noatun but still hear > > system sounds. If your sound card doesn't support multiple parallel > > sound inputs

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread R. Rodriguez
ok... now i can answer myself... alsa works great without arts... even though noatun and kaboodle still load arts themselves for playing something... but well... who cares :P Regards, Rafael Rodriguez El Miércoles, 16 de Abril de 2003 11:04, R. Rodriguez escribió: > Oh i see... well, then i t

(full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Joao Pedro Clemente
> > For example, you can listen to music using Noatun but still hear > > system sounds. If your sound card doesn't support multiple parallel > > sound inputs (there's probably a more scientific term), you need arts > > for this to work. > > Yes, it's called full duplex actually. All recent sound

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Lucas Moulin
On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 05:59:40 +0200 Magnus von Koeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, you can listen to music using Noatun but still hear > system sounds. If your sound card doesn't support multiple parallel > sound inputs (there's probably a more scientific term), you need arts > for

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread R. Rodriguez
Oh i see... well, then i think i can use just ALSA with my sb live 5.1 i hope this one is capable of playing several parallel streams! Regards, Rafael Rodriguez El Miércoles, 16 de Abril de 2003 04:59, Magnus von Koeller escribió: > On Tuesday 15 April 2003 23:41, R. Rodriguez wrote: > > >

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Tom Badran
On Wednesday 16 Apr 2003 10:22 am, Frank Van Damme wrote: > On Wednesday 16 April 2003 05:59, Magnus von Koeller wrote: > > Well, arts is a sound server. That means there can be multiple > > clients, all sending audio data to the server. The server mixes these > > multiple sound streams and plays t

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Frank Van Damme
On Wednesday 16 April 2003 05:59, Magnus von Koeller wrote: > Well, arts is a sound server. That means there can be multiple > clients, all sending audio data to the server. The server mixes these > multiple sound streams and plays them over your sound card. It also means that it sucks more cpu ti

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday 16 April 2003 05:59, Magnus von Koeller wrote: > On Tuesday 15 April 2003 23:41, R. Rodriguez wrote: > > > Oh, and since I don't need arts anyway (my sound card supports > > > multiple parallel sound inputs), I hardly see the point. > > > > Can you explain that to a newbie? :P > > Well

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Hendrik Sattler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 16. April 2003 03:01 schrieb Daniel Stone: > Try apt-get install kdemultimedia-dev. Must beat calc into fixing this. Yes, it runs now. Also pulled in libarts1-mpeglib. Thanx HS - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 23:41, R. Rodriguez wrote: > > Oh, and since I don't need arts anyway (my sound card supports > > multiple parallel sound inputs), I hardly see the point. > > Can you explain that to a newbie? :P Well, arts is a sound server. That means there can be multiple clients, all

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 07:31:18PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 18:35 schrieb David Bishop: > > Out of the debian box, noatun gives me kicker integration, full keyboard > > support (I am *always* using ctrl-alt-p, c-a-left/right, and c-a-s), a > > standard KDE file di

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread R. Rodriguez
El Martes, 15 de Abril de 2003 19:28, Magnus von Koeller escribió: > Oh, and since I don't need arts anyway (my sound card supports > multiple parallel sound inputs), I hardly see the point. Can you explain that to a newbie? :P By the way, i use orth's cvs debs... and noatun crashes everytime i t

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 19:50, David Bishop wrote: > > > Well, the fact that your install is broken doesn't make noatun bad > :-) I use sid, so I can't really help you, but I bet Ralf would > appreciate a bug report. Well, it /is/ kind of weird, though, that almost all installs of noatun seem

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 19:50, David Bishop wrote: > > > Well, the fact that your install is broken doesn't make noatun bad :-) > I use sid, so I can't really help you, but I bet Ralf would appreciate > a bug report. It works with the woody packages as well. At least it does here :) Cheers, Ke

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread David Bishop
Well, the fact that your install is broken doesn't make noatun bad :-) I use sid, so I can't really help you, but I bet Ralf would appreciate a bug report. -- MuMlutlitithtrhreeaadededd s siigngnatatuurere D.A.Bishop

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Hendrik Sattler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 18:35 schrieb David Bishop: > Out of the debian box, noatun gives me kicker integration, full keyboard > support (I am *always* using ctrl-alt-p, c-a-left/right, and c-a-s), a > standard KDE file dialog to add stuff, and dec

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread David Bishop
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 10:11 am, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 04:34 schrieb Daniel Stone: > > Noatun is a full-featured, full-blooded media > > player. > > That is surely to be discussed ;) > Personally, I think noatun is pure bloat and thus extremely slow. Mostly, > users

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Hendrik Sattler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 04:34 schrieb Daniel Stone: > Noatun is a full-featured, full-blooded media > player. That is surely to be discussed ;) Personally, I think noatun is pure bloat and thus extremely slow. Mostly, users are much happier with

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 12:36:35AM +0100, R. Rodriguez wrote: > Hi. I just wanted to know why there are so many multimedia players > for KDE. Why do exist kaboodle, noatun, kplayer (named in the > latest kde cvs digest), kmplayer...?? Wouldn't be better just one > GOOD player? (i'm not saying those

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-14 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 12:36:35AM +0100, R. Rodriguez wrote: > Hi. I just wanted to know why there are so many multimedia players for KDE. > Why do exist kaboodle, noatun, kplayer (named in the latest kde cvs digest), > kmplayer...?? Wouldn't be better just one GOOD player? (i'm not saying those