Re: KDE media players (was Re: Noatun crash at startup?)

2004-04-13 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Alejandro Exojo [Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:35:02 +0200]: > deb http://darkshines.net/debian unstable amarok > The version is 0.99, but it corresponds to 1.0-beta1, which was released > yesterday. If new betas are released, I will name them 0.999, 0., etc. > (yes, probably not the best naming sc

Re: KDE media players (was Re: Noatun crash at startup?)

2004-04-11 Thread Zack Cerza
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun April 11 2004 16:35, Alejandro Exojo wrote: > I agree. I was happy with noatun, but now I'm using very happily juk, > amarok, and kaffeine. > I am the ITP'er :-). The package isn't ready yet, but improving, so after > reading that, I will uploa

Re: KDE media players (was Re: Noatun crash at startup?)

2004-04-11 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Domingo, 11 de Abril de 2004 02:22, Zack Cerza escribió: > On Sat April 10 2004 11:01, Tom wrote: > > On my desperate search for a decent music player > > I can't offer you any advice on Noatun (it's unusable for me as well) but I > can suggest a couple of alternatives. Neither are in Debian yet

KDE media players (was Re: Noatun crash at startup?)

2004-04-10 Thread Zack Cerza
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat April 10 2004 11:01, Tom wrote: > On my desperate search for a decent music player I can't offer you any advice on Noatun (it's unusable for me as well) but I can suggest a couple of alternatives. Neither are in Debian yet, but Intent to Pack

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-20 Thread Wolfgang Mader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 01:36 schrieb R. Rodriguez: > Hi. I just wanted to know why there are so many multimedia players for KDE. > Why do exist kaboodle, noatun, kplayer (named in the latest kde cvs > digest), kmplayer...?? Wouldn't be better just

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-18 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 11:01:51AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > > arts/artsd package you have installed and try againe. > > ERROR: Communication problem with noatun, it probably crashed. > > Try apt-get install kdemultimedia-dev. Must beat calc into fixing this. Please beat the reason into me as

Re: (full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-18 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 10:09:02PM +0200, Lucas Moulin wrote: > But all the replies make me believe I was wrong on this point. I got > confused about mixing and full duplex terms, but again, I don't know if > a simple card can play two sources at a time. If someone could verify > that, that would c

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread David Bishop
On Wednesday 16 April 2003 11:48 am, Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Wednesday 16 April 2003 14:54, Lucas Moulin wrote: > > You misunderstoo. I said I can't use noatun without arts running. And > > my sound card doesn't work with arts, hence my problem :( > > The second part is the one I didn't understan

Re: (full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Lucas Moulin
On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 20:49:22 +0200 Wolfgang Rohdewald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This defines simplex, half duplex, full duplex: > http://physinfo.ulb.ac.be/cit_courseware/datacomm/dc_014.htm > > This defines full duplex for sound cards (the same way) : > http://www.techtv.com/callforhelp/answer

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Lucas Moulin
On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:48:06 +0200 Kevin Krammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The second part is the one I didn't understand. > Which driver are you using for your card? > Arts always worked with OSS and ALSA drivers on my machines. I'm using OSS. I didn't say OSS or ALSA doesn't work with arts,

Re: (full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Wolfgang Rohdewald
what about google? This defines simplex, half duplex, full duplex: http://physinfo.ulb.ac.be/cit_courseware/datacomm/dc_014.htm This defines full duplex for sound cards (the same way) : http://www.techtv.com/callforhelp/answerstips/story/0,24330,2236390,00.html Does anybody have a link which def

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday 16 April 2003 14:54, Lucas Moulin wrote: > You misunderstoo. I said I can't use noatun without arts running. And > my sound card doesn't work with arts, hence my problem :( The second part is the one I didn't understand. Which driver are you using for your card? Arts always worked wit

Re: (full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Randy Kramer
On Wednesday 16 April 2003 07:27 am, Lucas Moulin wrote: > On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:45:14 +0100 (WET DST) > Joao Pedro Clemente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Are you sure about this? I was pretty confident that "full duplex" > > meant being able to send & receive simultaneously... Like speaking

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Petr Baláš
Dne st 16. dubna 2003 11:47 Tom Badran napsal(a): > On Wednesday 16 Apr 2003 10:22 am, Frank Van Damme wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 April 2003 05:59, Magnus von Koeller wrote: > > > Well, arts is a sound server. That means there can be multiple > > > clients, all sending audio data to the server. The

Re: (full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Casper Gielen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Op woensdag 16 april 2003 12:45, schreef Joao Pedro Clemente: > > > For example, you can listen to music using Noatun but still hear > > > system sounds. If your sound card doesn't support multiple parallel > > > sound inputs (there's probably a more s

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Lucas Moulin
On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 13:11:46 +0200 Kevin Krammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, it's called full duplex actually. All recent sound cards (or > > not too cheap ones) can do this. > > I think full dublex means input and output at the same time. Right. I've made a correction in my post above.

Re: (full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Lucas Moulin
On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:45:14 +0100 (WET DST) Joao Pedro Clemente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you sure about this? I was pretty confident that "full duplex" > meant being able to send & receive simultaneously... Like speaking to > mic and listening to onother sound... Yes I am. Full duplex al

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday 16 April 2003 12:16, Lucas Moulin wrote: > On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 05:59:40 +0200 > > Magnus von Koeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For example, you can listen to music using Noatun but still hear > > system sounds. If your sound card doesn't support multiple parallel > > sound inputs

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread R. Rodriguez
ok... now i can answer myself... alsa works great without arts... even though noatun and kaboodle still load arts themselves for playing something... but well... who cares :P Regards, Rafael Rodriguez El Miércoles, 16 de Abril de 2003 11:04, R. Rodriguez escribió: > Oh i see... well, then i t

(full-duplex) Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Joao Pedro Clemente
> > For example, you can listen to music using Noatun but still hear > > system sounds. If your sound card doesn't support multiple parallel > > sound inputs (there's probably a more scientific term), you need arts > > for this to work. > > Yes, it's called full duplex actually. All recent sound

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Lucas Moulin
On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 05:59:40 +0200 Magnus von Koeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, you can listen to music using Noatun but still hear > system sounds. If your sound card doesn't support multiple parallel > sound inputs (there's probably a more scientific term), you need arts > for

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread R. Rodriguez
Oh i see... well, then i think i can use just ALSA with my sb live 5.1 i hope this one is capable of playing several parallel streams! Regards, Rafael Rodriguez El Miércoles, 16 de Abril de 2003 04:59, Magnus von Koeller escribió: > On Tuesday 15 April 2003 23:41, R. Rodriguez wrote: > > >

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Tom Badran
On Wednesday 16 Apr 2003 10:22 am, Frank Van Damme wrote: > On Wednesday 16 April 2003 05:59, Magnus von Koeller wrote: > > Well, arts is a sound server. That means there can be multiple > > clients, all sending audio data to the server. The server mixes these > > multiple sound streams and plays t

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Frank Van Damme
On Wednesday 16 April 2003 05:59, Magnus von Koeller wrote: > Well, arts is a sound server. That means there can be multiple > clients, all sending audio data to the server. The server mixes these > multiple sound streams and plays them over your sound card. It also means that it sucks more cpu ti

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday 16 April 2003 05:59, Magnus von Koeller wrote: > On Tuesday 15 April 2003 23:41, R. Rodriguez wrote: > > > Oh, and since I don't need arts anyway (my sound card supports > > > multiple parallel sound inputs), I hardly see the point. > > > > Can you explain that to a newbie? :P > > Well

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-16 Thread Hendrik Sattler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 16. April 2003 03:01 schrieb Daniel Stone: > Try apt-get install kdemultimedia-dev. Must beat calc into fixing this. Yes, it runs now. Also pulled in libarts1-mpeglib. Thanx HS - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 23:41, R. Rodriguez wrote: > > Oh, and since I don't need arts anyway (my sound card supports > > multiple parallel sound inputs), I hardly see the point. > > Can you explain that to a newbie? :P Well, arts is a sound server. That means there can be multiple clients, all

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 07:31:18PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 18:35 schrieb David Bishop: > > Out of the debian box, noatun gives me kicker integration, full keyboard > > support (I am *always* using ctrl-alt-p, c-a-left/right, and c-a-s), a > > standard KDE file di

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread R. Rodriguez
El Martes, 15 de Abril de 2003 19:28, Magnus von Koeller escribió: > Oh, and since I don't need arts anyway (my sound card supports > multiple parallel sound inputs), I hardly see the point. Can you explain that to a newbie? :P By the way, i use orth's cvs debs... and noatun crashes everytime i t

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 19:50, David Bishop wrote: > > > Well, the fact that your install is broken doesn't make noatun bad > :-) I use sid, so I can't really help you, but I bet Ralf would > appreciate a bug report. Well, it /is/ kind of weird, though, that almost all installs of noatun seem

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 19:50, David Bishop wrote: > > > Well, the fact that your install is broken doesn't make noatun bad :-) > I use sid, so I can't really help you, but I bet Ralf would appreciate > a bug report. It works with the woody packages as well. At least it does here :) Cheers, Ke

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread David Bishop
Well, the fact that your install is broken doesn't make noatun bad :-) I use sid, so I can't really help you, but I bet Ralf would appreciate a bug report. -- MuMlutlitithtrhreeaadededd s siigngnatatuurere D.A.Bishop

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Hendrik Sattler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 18:35 schrieb David Bishop: > Out of the debian box, noatun gives me kicker integration, full keyboard > support (I am *always* using ctrl-alt-p, c-a-left/right, and c-a-s), a > standard KDE file dialog to add stuff, and dec

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread David Bishop
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 10:11 am, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 04:34 schrieb Daniel Stone: > > Noatun is a full-featured, full-blooded media > > player. > > That is surely to be discussed ;) > Personally, I think noatun is pure bloat and thus extremely slow. Mostly, > users

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Hendrik Sattler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 04:34 schrieb Daniel Stone: > Noatun is a full-featured, full-blooded media > player. That is surely to be discussed ;) Personally, I think noatun is pure bloat and thus extremely slow. Mostly, users are much happier with

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 12:36:35AM +0100, R. Rodriguez wrote: > Hi. I just wanted to know why there are so many multimedia players > for KDE. Why do exist kaboodle, noatun, kplayer (named in the > latest kde cvs digest), kmplayer...?? Wouldn't be better just one > GOOD player? (i'm not saying those

Re: KDE media players

2003-04-14 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 12:36:35AM +0100, R. Rodriguez wrote: > Hi. I just wanted to know why there are so many multimedia players for KDE. > Why do exist kaboodle, noatun, kplayer (named in the latest kde cvs digest), > kmplayer...?? Wouldn't be better just one GOOD player? (i'm not saying those

KDE media players

2003-04-14 Thread R. Rodriguez
Hi. I just wanted to know why there are so many multimedia players for KDE. Why do exist kaboodle, noatun, kplayer (named in the latest kde cvs digest), kmplayer...?? Wouldn't be better just one GOOD player? (i'm not saying those ones aren't good... but a joint effort could be more powerful i th