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Hi,
I'm on mobile, so only a quick reply: merging should be done with msgmerge as
well — you need to call it twice, once with the po files from both branches,
and once again with the pot file to fix all the location comments and fuzzy
flags.
Alternatively, you can define a filter in git to rem
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 04:29:24PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
However if Debian dismiss those ideas, the argument that the fully free
installer doesn't exist because "nobody is working on this, go create
them and it will happen" does not seem valid to me. My reading is that
these images doesn
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Charles Plessy writes:
> On Fri, 2025-03-07 at 09:51 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
>
>> > I have prepared a stub for a "Gateway to NEW" on Salsa:
>> >
>> > https://salsa.debian.org/newgateway-team
>
> Le Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 06:00:55PM +0800, Maytham Alsudany a écrit :
>
>> Am I correct in assu
On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 08:33:50PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
I wonder if we get a reply from the OP or if this was just an attempt
to trigger a flame war. We will see...
Yup.
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On 2025-03-06 15:45 +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
Your question perhaps
incorporates an underlying assumption that "two days", or "[less] than
three or four weeks" is not slow.
I'd like to challenge this assumption.
I can ship code from a VCS host, for free, in a few seconds. Heck, I can
eve
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Geert Stappers writes:
>> > We're not obligated to validate their questionable choices in buying
>> > hardware that ships with non-free firmware
>>
>> There are a lot of competing priorities here, and it's the height of
>> arrogance to be so certain that one's own opinion is best as to try to
>>
Philip Hands writes:
> Hi Simon,
>
> Simon Josefsson writes:
>
>> While this may be fine to you it is not fine to me, and it is fine to
>> disagree on that.
>
> If there were a method of building images that did not touch the
> non-free components, I presume that would satisfy you.
That sounds
tl;dr: We need more docs about best practices to handle translations as
a package maintainer
My fellow developers,
there are two things in being a DD that I truly despise. The one is
keeping the machine readable debian/copyright up to date, the other is
handling of translations, regardless of
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On 3/11/25 6:18 PM, Wookey wrote:
Do we still even _need_ to pre-review the archive the same way we have
been for 30 years? Could not post-review when actual problems are
noted be sufficient (given that much of the rest of the ecosystem
seems to manage this, although a lot of that is source rathe
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 11:03:49AM +0100, Julien Plissonneau Duquène wrote:
[text/markdown instead of text/plain]
That's IMO something much more interesting than text/html that should
be implemented in MUAs (falling back to displaying it as text/plain
eventually) but for now it doesn't display
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Hello,
Sean Whitton wrote on 06/03/2025 at 02:01:13+0100:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed 05 Mar 2025 at 11:35pm +0530, Nilesh Patra wrote:
>
>> Do you mind clarifying why that's the case, unless the reason is truly
>> personal or undisclosable?
>
> It's pretty simple -- there is no-one with the free time t
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Hi Sean,
Am Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 10:01:06AM +0800 schrieb Sean Whitton:
> > As defined by our constitution (§6.2.2), the Debian Technical Committee
> > has recommended the appointment to the committee of:
> >
> > * Paul Tagliamonte
> >
> > I agree with their recommendation, and hereby appoint P
On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 06:21:10PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> However, I'm reasonably certain that there are other cases where diversions
> are intentional and perfectly valid. Unless 'missing-breaks' learns to
> handle them it will report CI failures for *all* of them, at which point we
> mi
> On Thu 06 Mar 2025 at 01:21pm +09, Charles Plessy wrote:
>
> > Around 12 years ago, I proposed a peer-review system to increase the
> > quality of
> > the packages in the NEW queue. https://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightReview
Le Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 05:41:14PM +0800, Sean Whitton a écrit :
>
> I
On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 06:58:08PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
If you don't trust the vendor, then it makes no difference whether or not new
official firmware/microcode can be uploaded/flashed or not. If you don't trust
the vendor, then the initial microcode that came with your device might
On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 14:36:20 -0500, "Helmut K. C. Tessarek"
wrote:
>On the other
>hand, it's not always possible to have a test bed for every single setup.
It is way easier to have a test bed or to arrange for console access
than even trying to cater for every situation that might happen. Rest
as
> > We're not obligated to validate their questionable choices in buying
> > hardware that ships with non-free firmware
>
> There are a lot of competing priorities here, and it's the height of
> arrogance to be so certain that one's own opinion is best as to try to
> prevent other people from maki
On 2025-03-09 17:17:52 +0100 (+0100), Simon Josefsson wrote:
[...]
Right, in the sense that they embed non-free software in the
hardware.
None of those machines require them to be loaded by me as a user
for them to be useful to me.
This distinction is important to me.
[...]
For me there are
Simon Josefsson wrote:
>Philip Hands writes:
>
>> Let's say that we could make that image bit-for-bit reproducible with an
>> image that was produced by taking the normal with-nonfree-firmware
>> image, and filtering it somehow (e.g. overwriting the non-free bits with
>> zeros, say).
>>
>> Would y
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 08:36:45PM +0900, Simon Richter wrote:
The current state where we have free software drivers for a lot of
hardware is the result of a lot of people investing a lot of time into
creating them.
In the same way, we need to do both: support our current users by
allowing th
On 2025-03-11 18:52:07 +0530 (+0530), Pirate Praveen wrote:
[...]
I think in previous discussions, it was suggested to pay for a proper
legal opinion, may be from SFC or SFLC. I think this would be a good
use of Debian's money.
With a proper legal opinion, we will be in a much better position
Aurélien COUDERC writes:
> Le 10 mars 2025 11:56:28 GMT+01:00, Simon Josefsson a
> écrit :
>
>>https://www.gnu.org/distros/optionally-free-not-enough.html
>>
>>https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/install-fest-devil.html
>
> … of course … that's where the core of the disagreement lies !
Right, I thi
Hi,
* Pirate Praveen [2025-03-11 18:52]:
I think in previous discussions, it was suggested to pay for a proper
legal opinion, may be from SFC or SFLC. I think this would be a good
use of Debian's money.
With a proper legal opinion, we will be in a much better position to
evaluate changes to
Hi,
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, Blair Noctis wrote:
> > From your initial list, my preferred outcome is to modify
> > tracker.debian.org so that all Uploaders are automatically subscribed,
> > that's what has been requested for a long time in
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=756954
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On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 03:41:50PM +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote:
Simon Richter writes:
their questionable choices in buying hardware that ships with non-free
firmware
Is there hardware that ships with free firmware? Seriously.
Yeah, I think that should read "requires", not "ships with". Shippi
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 08:36:45PM +0900, Simon Richter wrote:
We're not obligated to validate their questionable choices in buying
hardware that ships with non-free firmware
There are a lot of competing priorities here, and it's the height of
arrogance to be so certain that one's own opinion
On 10/03/2025 09:57, Simon Josefsson wrote:
in a Salsa pipeline, and that seems to be a 5-10GB
artifact unless my math is off.
Hi Simon,
sadly, Salsa pipelines will only handle up to 250MB,
a long way short of even 5GB !
https://salsa.debian.org/salsa-ci-team/pipeline/-/issues/389
Che
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On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 11:19:52AM +0100, Timo Röhling wrote:
> I'm not an FTP Team member, but I happen to have analyzed exactly this
> question in detail [1]. The FTP team is very transparent in this regard and
> provides all processing logs, so any DD can verify this for themselves.
Thank you f
Hi Simon,
Simon Josefsson writes:
> While this may be fine to you it is not fine to me, and it is fine to
> disagree on that.
If there were a method of building images that did not touch the
non-free components, I presume that would satisfy you.
Let's say that we could make that image bit-for-
On 05/03/2025 02:45, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
On Wed, 2025-03-05 at 01:32 +0800, Blair Noctis wrote:
On 04/03/2025 21:43, Marc Haber wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 19:15:16 +0800, Blair Noctis
wrote:
[...]
Honestly I never understood how exactly @p.d.o addresses work.
Devref says it's "a simple emai
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Quoting Marc Haber (2025-03-10 13:38:05)
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 09:33:55PM +0900, Simon Richter wrote:
> >We've reached the point where people are shitting on nV for the
> >quality of their drivers, and a kernel that has closed-source drivers
> >loaded is "tainted", and the last release in whi
Le Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 04:39:00PM +0100, Simon Josefsson a écrit :
>
> Could you explain how I would ask for review of a package? I re-read
> this thread, and the newgateway-team homepages, but I still don't
> understand how you think the process should work.
>
> Could we test the process by re
On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 05:32:37PM +, Mathias Gibbens wrote:
> I like that idea, thanks! It would be easy enough to add that to
> Incus' $PATH while making it simple for an end user to modify their
> local environment to directly use `mc` if they wish.
Let me express a concern regarding this
On Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 03:58:59PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>
> Agreed. However none of that hardware require me to load non-free
> firmware from my operating system, which is my point. That situation is
> sufficient for me to accept to use the hardware and install an operating
> system bui
On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 8:29:24 AM MST Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Aurélien COUDERC writes:
> > Le 10 mars 2025 11:56:28 GMT+01:00, Simon Josefsson a
écrit :
> >>https://www.gnu.org/distros/optionally-free-not-enough.html
> >>
> >>https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/install-fest-devil.html
> >>
> > …
Hello Marc,
I am currently new as Debian Maintainer, but I have more experience
from upstream-side.
As I understand your question about a general workflow of translations
in all your email-cases correct, I think the short answer maybe to use
`quilt` to patch the .PO files instead of committing t
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On Wed, 2025-03-12 at 09:52 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> I have just drafted a workflow in
>
> https://salsa.debian.org/newgateway-team/reviews#how-to-request-or-make-a-review
>
> which I quote here:
>
> 0. (We are in pilot phases. Improvements of this workflow are welcome)
>
> 1. The p
Hi Marc,
Here are some of my thoughts based on my (relatively little) experience
with both translating to Arabic and receiving translations.
It might also be worthwhile to forward your message to
debian-i18n@l.d.o, since translators and i18n people are more likely to
be subscribed there and less
Am Montag, dem 10.03.2025 um 13:27 +0530 schrieb Pirate Praveen:
> Basically hardware manufacturers are withholding code that they could
> give you easily
It is often not that easy because of stupid laws, for example laws that
require vendors of radio devices to restrict the frequency range. That
i
Hi,
On 3/10/25 17:52, Marc Haber wrote:
It is fine to disagree that these are concerns worthy spending time on
within the Debian project, which is my perception of the vote outcome.
There are not concerns about spending time. There are no people
willing to do so.
This is, however, a long t
The Wanderer writes:
> To be fair, while I *am* against the proposal, I'm also not a Debian
> Developer - just an interested observer of, and occasional participant
> in, discussions on Debian mailing lists (including this one).
+1
and to clarify my view on format=flowed:
This should not be ma
Before I did anything else, attempting to view your email in aerc
resulted in:
No filter configured for this mimetype ('text/markdown')
What would you like to do?
O Open using the system handler :open
S Save to file :save
| Pipe to shell command :pi
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