RE: [Debconf-team] Microphones - Any good for the video team?

2006-04-25 Thread Daniel
Neil: It?s an MXL Cardioid condenser mic, if you want the exact model I can give it to you tomorrow, It does?nt include the stand. Greetings! Daniel Aspuru --- http://daniel.aspuru.com -Mensaje original- De: Neil McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de Neil McGovern Enviado el

Re: [Debconf-team] Organizational Meeting Minutes, April 20th

2009-04-21 Thread Daniel Silverstone
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 19:35 -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > - Talk selection > - Ganneff will assemble the team this week. > - talk scheduling: Daniel S, Andreas T, Tássia Camões Given I'll be working with Andreas and Tássia on scheduling, I'm happy to also assist Ganneff

[Debconf-team] Not able to attend debcamp/debconf

2009-07-13 Thread Daniel Baumann
ve to spend the time studying. I'm sorry about the inconvenience and thank you for the understanding. Regards, Daniel - -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: daniel.baum...@panthera-systems.net Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.n

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 sponsoring brochure, please review sections Debian and DebConf

2012-07-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 24/07/12 02:01, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:20:02PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >> >> Please review my changes both with regard to content as for english >> language improvements. > > I commited some attempts at that. > >> Gaudenz >> \subsection{Debian is Cho

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next

2012-07-25 Thread Daniel Pocock
Comments on the issues raised by Gunnar and Gaudenz: > However, I fear the effort might be too hard, and -want it or not- > part of it will fall upon the shoulder of the DC13 locals. This time, In fact, the locals (I'm only a semi-local, living in Zurich for 2 years now and haven't been part of

[Debconf-team] [survey] of DebConf and Debian community?

2012-07-25 Thread Daniel Pocock
I've heard various feedback comments about DebConf12, and also questions about DebConf13, and I started thinking that maybe a survey is needed to uncover more about the possibilities for DebConf, the attendee preferences and feelings about different subjects, etc I understand some data can alrea

Re: [Debconf-team] Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next

2012-07-26 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 26/07/12 06:35, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > (We should maybe consider dropping -discuss as this is clearly -team > material, > IMHO) > > Hi all, > > Le mercredi, 25 juillet 2012 23.31:52, Daniel Pocock a écrit : >> In any commercial project, if a

[Debconf-team] sponsored tracks?

2012-07-26 Thread Daniel Pocock
Has there ever been any variation to the existing sponsorship model, for example, having sponsors for particular tracks? E.g. if there is a free/open VoIP track next year, there are a few commercial VoIP operators I could reach out to - such sponsors could be asked to pay a premium for things l

Re: [Debconf-team] Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 26/07/12 22:55, Philip Hands wrote: > Daniel Pocock writes: > ... >> Just imagine if one hops on a train by mistake - there are many trains >> in Switzerland, very frequently too, some children love trains > > From what I hear, the local railway station doens'

Re: [Debconf-team] sponsored tracks?

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 27/07/12 10:27, Moray Allan wrote: > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 21:49 +0000, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> Has there ever been any variation to the existing sponsorship model, for >> example, having sponsors for particular tracks? > > We have had sponsors pay for specific elements.

Re: [Debconf-team] sponsored tracks?

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 27/07/12 14:14, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Daniel Pocock dijo [Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 09:49:33PM +]: >> Has there ever been any variation to the existing sponsorship model, for >> example, having sponsors for particular tracks? >> >> E.g. if there is a free/open VoIP t

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] DC13 sponsoring brochure, sponsorship levels

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
> And yes... Raising 200,000 CHF still... makes me shiver :-( I just > hope we can make it. Keeping a "plan B" in case we don't should be a > priority :-/ That is an interesting point - people from beyond Europe are likely to spend a lot of their own money coming to DebConf, buying tickets months

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] DC13 currency issues (renamed)

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 26/07/12 20:52, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > > Hi there > > Norman García Aguilar writes: > >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:21:03 +0200 >> Luca Capello wrote: >> >> >> Was it agreed to use CHF instead of EUR/USD? usually for DC in America >> sposnorship brochure use USD and in Europe EUR... > > A

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] DC13 currency issues (renamed)

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 27/07/12 16:14, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 03:35:26PM +0000, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> e) set a deadline for getting signed sponsorship pledges, and tell >> people not to buy plane tickets until DebConf hits the sponsorship target > > to protect Deb

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] venue issues (renamed)

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
> Of course, given the family-hostile accommodation that exists at Le Camp, > and the fact that camping isn't sounding like it's going to be allowed > (bizarrely), and the nearest alternative accommodation being miles away, > and there apparently being nothing nearby for non-debianites to non-deb

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] venue issues (renamed)

2012-07-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 27/07/12 23:48, Moray Allan wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 08:10:34PM +0000, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> I don't want to give my own opinions on those things, I felt it was >> better to initiate the discussion about a [survey] to find out what the >> wider community feel

Re: [Debconf-team] Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next

2012-07-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
no support for disabled people, but they still get the Olympics. > On 07/26/2012 06:02 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> The final word on the subject is that getting people to pay for >> something is the only completely unbiased survey: > > Sorry to pull this one quote out of a

[Debconf-team] free hotel in Switzerland?

2012-07-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
They have some kind of promotion, win the hotel for a night: http://www.pilatus-drachenstein.ch/enCH It asks you to complete 5 trivial `tasks' and then gives you a form to fill in The form data is submitted via HTTP POST using content type application/x-amf - the whole exchange is easily cap

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancellation policy

2012-08-02 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 02/08/12 11:22, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > On 31.07.2012 18:02, Moray Allan wrote: >> We should create a cancellation policy. This might just be that >> DebConf registration fees are non-refundable. Or, that they are >> non-refundable after some date a few months before the conference. In >>

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancellation policy

2012-08-03 Thread Daniel Pocock
> Is this topic the result of a real experience/demand we had? I have > not yet heard from (of course, that does not imply there has not been) > any refund request. I don't know if we need an explicit one, or we can > keep addressing it on a case-to-case basis. If we start drafting > policies for

Re: [Debconf-team] Scandal!

2012-08-03 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 03/08/12 20:29, Henning Sprang wrote: > Look what the swiss did! > > DC13 must be stopped! > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lazylava/7701464960/in/set-72157630257037958 Actually, there is concern that he might have escaped into orbit on one of the large number of fireworks ignited for the Sw

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancellation policy

2012-08-03 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 03/08/12 21:05, Judit Foglszinger wrote: > Why not a much simpler (and less scary) policy like: > "Refunds are not available regularly, > but expections can be given by $whoever" > > This tells "we will decide, if your reasons are reasonable for us" > without using ugly lawyer wording. > > If

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 sponsoring brochure, sponsorship levels

2012-08-08 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 08/08/12 19:27, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mercredi, 8 août 2012 20.57:15, Luca Capello a écrit : >> * PLATINUM - starting from CHF 20'000 [DC10 30'000, DC11 30'000, DC12 >> 25'000] >> >> Benefits from gold, and also: >> >> + Name and description of sponsor in all press releases relati

Re: [Debconf-team] Meeting with Le Camp

2012-08-08 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 08/08/12 19:54, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Martin Zobel-Helas (zo...@ftbfs.de): >> Hi, >> >> On Tue Aug 07, 2012 at 16:35:16 +0200, Michele Cane wrote: >>> I discussed this issue with Mr. Pianaro several times. They are really >>> against camping. >>> Concerning more beds we considered

Re: [Debconf-team] Meeting with Le Camp

2012-08-08 Thread Daniel Pocock
> I have put the "DebConf13 venue decision" up for decision by the DebConf team > at its next meeting [2]; both the localteam volunteers and Le Camp need to > know rather soon if DebConf13's going to happen there or not. In my It is an unpleasant subject, but certainly should be discussed in

Re: [Debconf-team] SVN -> GIT migration

2012-08-13 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 13/08/12 15:47, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > > Hi > > Richard Darst writes: > >> Hi, >> >> (a bit late, but...) > > From the timing I'm not sure if your mail was sent before you read my > last mail to this thread [1] or afterwards. Could you please clarify if my > mail addresses your concerns

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 Venue constraints

2012-08-13 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 13/08/12 18:46, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >>> (3) The venue was advertized as "camping will be allowed" and now it >>> sounds like camping won't be possible. You are telling lies. It's >>> true that the local team thought that camping will be possible in >>> some form. We are still ne

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 Venue constraints

2012-08-13 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 13/08/12 20:33, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi there! > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:56:26 +0200, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: >> If Le Camp is destroyed by a tornado, [...] > > ...then we will not have any DebConf13-in-Switzerland problem, given > that the not-so-big-Switzerland will not exist anymore :-( >

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancellation policy

2012-08-14 Thread Daniel Pocock
r emails, or the words from Holger's email which really says the same thing. But on the issue of whether we have no policy: I just think that is a bad idea. It is better to tell people the worst case scenario before they pay any money, then if something goes wrong, they will not feel angry. &

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancellation policy

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 14/08/12 14:26, Brian Gupta wrote: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Dienstag, 14. August 2012, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: >>> Not really. Until we start giving something to the customers, we are >>> obliged to return money to the customer, if he ask so. Yo

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 14/08/12 20:17, Michele Cane wrote: > On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 20:11 +0000, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> >> >> Given the threshold for 200 beds/night, does it make sense to have >> DebCamp elsewhere, but not too far away hopefully? > > No, DebCamp is used to prepare t

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 15/08/12 13:03, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mercredi, 15 août 2012 14.51:20, Daniel Pocock a écrit : >> Another idea: what if (…) > > In french we say: "Avec des `si', on peut mettre Paris en bouteille". Which > translates to something like &quo

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 15/08/12 14:23, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > On 15.08.2012 15:37, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> But the issue of attendance during the DebCamp week has very real >> financial implications - you don't think it is worth looking at options >> to mitigate such risks? > > it

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 15/08/12 15:41, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi there! > > On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:01:20 +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 03:08:51PM +0100, Nattie Mayer-Hutchings wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 01:37:45PM +, Daniel Pocock wrote: >>>> Bu

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
>> c) after DebConf: will bandwidth still be available for another 1-2 >> weeks? Will there be billing issues? > > I don't think Le Camp will be available after DebConf. And I think we > should only think about DebCamp parallel events. > Topping up numbers for the DebCamp week is the highest pr

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
>> We can decide these things at the meeting where we discuss the issue > > You are continuing the "what if" game. > > We cannot engineering all possibilities, and we are Debian / DebConf, so > no committee. but doers! If you want to continue with your idea, go > asking informally people, give u

Re: [Debconf-team] Next IRC DebConf meeting - Poll for dates/times

2012-08-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 17/08/12 15:39, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > This year, the priority is to have a time where most Swiss people can > participate. The rest of us are nice-to-have, but not a priority. The > proposed times are OK in Europe and in America (and they fall in line > with the meeting times we have had over th

Re: [Debconf-team] Alternative ways of raising money

2012-08-19 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 19/08/12 19:31, Marcus Moeller wrote: > On 08/19/2012 07:22 PM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >> Ana Guerrero writes: >>> Back when DebConf10, we even sent a press release asking for donations: >>> http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100519 >>> Some people donated after this, but we didn't exactly trac

Re: [Debconf-team] Alternative ways of raising money

2012-08-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 20/08/12 13:38, Richard Darst wrote: > Hi, > > Consider targeting of the source: while individuals may not donate a > huge amount, perhaps small businesses would make also make (bigger) > crowdfunding donations. > > We have lots of merchandising we have done in the past: umbrellas, Merchandis

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancellation policy

2012-08-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 20/08/12 15:12, Richard Darst wrote: > > p.s. the original thread was about cancellations, which morphed into > refunds, but refunds are the only practical effect of cancellation, > and that only affects a few people. Sponsored people not attending is > the other case, which we deal with thro

Re: [Debconf-team] mailing lists on lists.debian.org

2012-08-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 21/08/12 11:50, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > here my very personal thoughts on it and i need to say that i have not > yet discussed with any of the other listmasters of lists.d.o! > > On Tue Aug 21, 2012 at 11:33:31 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 09:58:20

[Debconf-team] collaboration/conferencing solutions (beyond IRC/email)

2012-08-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
I'm just wondering if there is ongoing interest in anything beyond IRC, either for the -team meetings, or for use at DebConf itself I've been evaluating various products, like SylkServer, and I'm happy to support such initiatives either for DebConf or a wider Debian use case. SylkServer ITP b

Re: [Debconf-team] collaboration/conferencing solutions (beyond IRC/email)

2012-08-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
team, or a mini-DebConf) On 21/08/12 13:40, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > I'm just wondering if there is ongoing interest in anything beyond IRC, > either for the -team meetings, or for use at DebConf itself > > I've been evaluating various products, like SylkS

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] DebConf 13 legal association

2012-08-31 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 31/08/12 11:21, Philipp Hug wrote: >>> not be much more bureaucratic burden than "provide conclusive accounting >> for >>> DebConf13" and "agree where the remaining money (or depts) shall go" >> that we >>> will have to do anyway. >> > > The accounting has to be separate anyway and the good t

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] DebConf 13 legal association

2012-08-31 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 31/08/12 14:21, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le vendredi, 31 août 2012 13.28:06, Daniel Pocock a écrit : >> On the issue of (a) leftover money and (b) membership, this is where a >> limited company may be more appropriate, e.g DC13 GmbH or DC13 AG? > > No.

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] DebConf 13 legal association

2012-08-31 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 31/08/12 15:39, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > On 31.08.2012 14:46, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >> For example, I've heard that anyone who wants to make a GmbH or AG has >> to pay a big security deposit for their employer taxes, and 10,000 CHF >> per year in admin fees -

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] DebConf 13 legal association

2012-08-31 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 31/08/12 13:56, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Freitag, 31. August 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> In Switzerland, DebConf's worst case scenario is that every foreign >> sponsor and every person paying the professional rate will be charged >> VAT (about 8%). Swiss companie

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] DebConf 13 legal association

2012-09-01 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 01/09/12 20:41, Philipp Kern wrote: > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:21:09AM +0200, Philipp Hug wrote: >> The budget of dc13 is above the limit where you have to start paying VAT, >> whereas debian.ch's budget isn't and won't be in the near future. > > Why is that? Do you think that it's not eligib

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] DebConf 13 legal association

2012-09-02 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 02/09/12 11:30, Philipp Hug wrote: > For non-swiss companies we expect to not need to charge VAT. This is really positive and what I'm sure everyone was hoping - but when you say `expect', does that mean it is still being investigated, or it is subject to some application for charitable statu

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] Le Camp Contract

2012-09-02 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 02/09/12 12:07, Michele Cane wrote: >> * Forfait for accomodation is calculated incorrectly if based on a >> minimum 200person occupancy. >> He just calculated 200x (most expensive rooms), but there only exist >> 129 of those :-) >> Much fairer would be a price based on average room price. > >

Re: [Debconf-team] Information gathered for travel sponsorship

2012-09-03 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 03/09/12 08:33, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > I think that the sponsorship committee should: > 1) verify that the funding asked for is adequate (given the expected >travel costs from the originating country) > 2) rank demands based on *benefit of attendance for Debian*. >If you quantify, for

Re: [Debconf-team] Information gathered for travel sponsorship

2012-09-03 Thread Daniel Pocock
>> c) or a focus on young people/students, perhaps? >> >> This last option stands out most for me, whether it is 100% sponsorship >> or just 33% discount, the intention is to stimulate a future generation >> rather than to pay for results now. > > You are making the assumption that the future gen

Re: [Debconf-team] Information gathered for travel sponsorship

2012-09-04 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 04/09/12 19:07, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > On Montag, 3. September 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> Actually, that is an interesting point > > no, its a boring old point... > >> If somebody's employer gives them a week of work time to attend

Re: [Debconf-team] Information gathered for travel sponsorship

2012-09-05 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 05/09/12 09:31, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Dienstag, 4. September 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: >>> no. We only count money (or directly valuable ressources, usually things) >>> into account for sponsoring. >>> >>> (I guesstimate) Half of

Re: [Debconf-team] Information gathered for travel sponsorship

2012-09-05 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 05/09/12 14:28, Holger Levsen wrote: > problem per se. What is a problem is that you seem to insist on your ideas... I don't mean to `insist' or `rant' about any one idea, nor waste anybody's time (mine is no less valuable than yours) However, when I see a comment such as your choice of the w

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 sponsoring brochure, sponsorship levels

2012-09-07 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 07/09/12 03:03, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi there! > > On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:03:01 +0200, Luca Capello wrote: > >> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:20:25 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: >> >>> So my idea would be to go with <2000, 2000+, 6000+, 12000+ and 25k+. >>> >> These new levels are even mo

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 sponsoring brochure, sponsorship levels

2012-09-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 17/09/12 22:40, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi there! > > On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 03:03:44 +0200, Luca Capello wrote: >> Given that we need to go forward (at least two possible sponsors are >> waiting for the brochure), I propose to discuss the final levels >> *before* the next IRC meeting, i.e. before 2

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 15/08/12 19:54, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > We cannot engineering all possibilities, and we are Debian / DebConf, so > no committee. but doers! If you want to continue with your idea, go > asking informally people, give us something like: > - the OpenCowGroup: a group of 12 people and 2 cows

Re: [Debconf-team] collaboration/conferencing solutions (beyond IRC/email)

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel Pocock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 22/08/12 08:57, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mardi, 21 août 2012 13.40:07, Daniel Pocock a écrit : >> I've been evaluating various products, like SylkServer, and I'm >> happy to support such initia

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 18/09/12 14:36, Michele Cane wrote: > >> The discussion about the contract suggests it is not 200, more like 235 >> bed average now: so the `risk' factor is higher > > > Let's stop talking about average number of people in Le Camp. > > To have the full access at Le Camp we have to pay 4880 C

[Debconf-team] map to DC13

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel Pocock
I just took the train from Zurich to Geneva a few days ago, passing Le Camp I had the embedded Ganglia agent running in Lumicall on my phone, it has collected a nice map of network coverage along the route There is a dot for Vaumarcus <>___ Debconf-

Re: [Debconf-team] BSP in Le Camp

2012-09-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 20/09/12 16:00, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > > Hi > > Michele Cane writes: > >> Hi all, >> >> I just spoke with Le Camp for the BSP on October 27. >> >> We can have the Passerelle building (minimum 650 CHF) >> >> Two problems: >> >> - There is no kitchen available so we will have to buy kooked

Re: [Debconf-team] BSP in Le Camp

2012-09-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 23/09/12 12:08, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi there! > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:00:14 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >> Michele Cane writes: >>> Please if is not ok for you to rent it at this conditions let me know >>> ASAP because I have to give the confirmation on Monday 24. >> >> I'm a bit unsur

Re: [Debconf-team] BSP in Le Camp

2012-09-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 23/09/12 21:17, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > P.S.: I'm a bit worried about the recent news regarding the contract for > DebConf with Le Camp. It seems that all my initial hopes that we will be > able to reduce the price somewhat were wrong. We really need a plan > about how to get all that money

Re: [Debconf-team] Final call for DebConf13 sponsorship levels and benefits

2012-09-25 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 25/09/12 09:00, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >> I find the level for silver way too high for what you get in response. > > end I think the benefits don't matter that much to companies. I guess > that most of them sponsor DebConf because they want to support Debian, > not because of the benefits.

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract

2012-09-26 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 26/09/12 14:15, Ana Guerrero wrote: > If we start DebConf let's say in Tuesday with arrival day being Monday, > I expect people to keep the same routine and just attend 2-3 days to DebCamp. > Everybody who is already a Debian contributor or have a okish "Debconf plan" > tends to get sponsorhip

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

2012-09-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 28/09/12 10:12, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi there! > > I just committed (SVN r3732 [1]) the version of the contract Le Camp > sent us with the our last comments. Since the original is in French, I > quickly translated it to English, please other French-speaking people > check my translation! > >

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

2012-09-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 28/09/12 14:21, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi there! > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:43:45 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> On 28/09/12 10:12, Luca Capello wrote: >>> I just committed (SVN r3732 [1]) the version of the contract Le Camp >>> sent us with the our last co

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

2012-09-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 28/09/12 17:10, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi there! > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:05:17 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> On 28/09/12 14:21, Luca Capello wrote: >>> If the above numbers do not change for 2013, it means that we can still >>> cancel without having pa

[Debconf-team] sponsorship / budget / registration fee

2012-09-29 Thread Daniel Pocock
These discussions have been on IRC again and appear to be circular dependencies These appear to be the key facts: - Le Camp contract: 160k CHF, with 60k to be paid by non-refundable installments well in advance, and if we don't come up with the other 100k by July, no DC13 - DC12 had less than th

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

2012-10-05 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 05/10/12 10:44, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi there! > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:29:18 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: >> until when wants Le Camp us to sign the contract? > > Sorry, I missed this question. > > I actually do not know: from my understanding they wanted us to sign it > ASAP, but then I h

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

2012-10-05 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 05/10/12 11:08, Michele Cane wrote: > Hi, >> - will they reconsider the possibility of allowing us to cook? > No. If this is 100% impossible to change, and if global team members are not 100% committed to the budget, then I personally would not feel it is productive use of Luca's time making a

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

2012-10-05 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 05/10/12 11:51, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Freitag, 5. Oktober 2012, Philipp Hug wrote: >> For me there are two problems: >> * Food must be by meals consumed and not full board. And if there's an >> option that we don't need to take the food from them, I would just have the >> number of meals rem

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

2012-10-05 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 05/10/12 13:47, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Freitag, 5. Oktober 2012, Philipp Hug wrote: >> The current offer for food is about 25% of their annual food sales budget. >> And this only for 2 weeks. >> So, I think there should be some flexibility on their side :-) > > ui. > > > to say it very mil

[Debconf-team] more Swiss venues

2012-10-08 Thread Daniel Pocock
I'm sure it's not necessary to repeat the back-up venues[1] However, as it feels like there is something of an impasse over the contract and budget, I thought I would see what else exists I found a few other links that serve to a) validate Le Camp's pricing b) offer alternatives (not necessarily

Re: [Debconf-team] more Swiss venues

2012-10-09 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 08/10/12 23:37, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > I'm sure it's not necessary to repeat the back-up venues[1] > > However, as it feels like there is something of an impasse over the > contract and budget, I thought I would see what else exists > > I found a few other li

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

2012-10-11 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 11/10/12 19:28, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi there! > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:12:56 +0200, Luca Capello wrote: >> I just committed (SVN r3732 [1]) the version of the contract Le Camp >> sent us with the our last comments. Since the original is in French, I >> quickly translated it to English, ple

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp contract, 2012-09-27

2012-10-12 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 12/10/12 13:49, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Donnerstag, 11. Oktober 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >> On 11/10/12 19:28, Luca Capello wrote: >> >>> Here a resume of the problems, please correct me if I am wrong or if I >>> have missed s

[Debconf-team] Interlaken - alternative

2012-10-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've just visited Interlaken this morning. My initial impression is that: a) it is a viable alternative - it is not necessarily cheaper, but it would work just as well as Le Camp b) there may be more flexibility in the contract - no need to pay f

[Debconf-team] Interlaken - wiki page added

2012-10-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
I've put my findings about Interlaken on the wiki page: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Interlaken The only thing I am still waiting for is a detailed price list from the potential venue - I will share that when it is available. ___ Debcon

[Debconf-team] for next IRC meeting - bid acceptance criteria

2012-10-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
The discussion on IRC suggests there is not universal support for the DC13 budget around Le Camp's contract There is also an alternative Swiss option emerging (Interlaken) which may or may not address some of the concerns I would propose for the next meeting we need to reach a decision on crit

[Debconf-team] partner slides (good for DC14 bidders)

2012-10-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
I prepared some slides for my discussions with potential partners in Interlaken and I feel they worked well. I've added them in SVN svn+ssh://u...@svn.debian.org/svn/debconf-data/misc/partner-development/partner-prospectus These are generic enough for any year, people preparing DC14 bids may

[Debconf-team] the self-cooking option

2012-10-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
Whether self-cooking is viable or not for DC13 (or beyond) is not completely clear to me. I've heard different opinions and so I've created a wiki page with some of the possible risks and opportunities: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/SelfCooking Of particular note is the `hybrid' possibility

[Debconf-team] Interlaken meetings / 26 October

2012-10-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
There are some meetings lined up in Interlaken on 26 October (next Friday, the day before BSP) I realise it is late notice for people, but as we are expecting at least one visitor (Holger), and one of the venues closes from 29 October, it really needs to happen next week. Please email me if

[Debconf-team] Interlaken / Jungfrau Park quote

2012-10-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
I've received a proposal from Jungfrau Park in Interlaken It has been committed in SVN svn+ssh://u...@svn.debian.org/svn/debconf-data/dc13/venue-evaluation/interlaken Initial observations: - 16 August they have another event, and 17 August they need to work in the Pegasus room. We could con

[Debconf-team] Jungfrau Park - Internet?

2012-10-18 Thread Daniel Pocock
Jungfrau Park management provided the following comments about internet. We need to tell them the minimum and the preferred bandwidth for them to get quotes: So now I have answers about the internet. - which type of connection do you have? Cable TV Glass fiber - how many megabits? 5MB - w

[Debconf-team] Interlaken / Kongress Centre quote added

2012-10-18 Thread Daniel Pocock
I've just received the quote from Kongress Centre Kursaal It is now in SVN: svn+ssh://u...@svn.debian.org/svn/debconf-data/dc13/venue-evaluation/interlaken It is more expensive, but the brochure gives a very detailed overview of Interlaken, not just the Kongress Centre My initial feeling is t

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf13 sponsorship brochure: last details

2012-10-18 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 18/10/12 13:42, Philipp Kern wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 01:35:00PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > >> My personal opinion is that LeCamp is still the most probable venue and that >> sponsors don't care "that much" about the place. So if we drop "Vaumarcus / >> Le >> Camp" from t

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf13 sponsorship brochure: last details

2012-10-18 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 18/10/12 14:34, Raphael Walther wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I had an interesting conversation with somebody from "Trois-lacs et > Jura" [1] which is the tourist office responsible for Vaumarcus. > > She told me it may be possible to get support from them because our > event has an international im

[Debconf-team] DC13 videos

2012-10-19 Thread Daniel Pocock
In the region of Vaumarcus: http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/video/index.cfm?id=2301 The video includes an interesting quote: "here, those who are stressed out will find the relaxation they have been looking for" For Interlaken, this video covers some of the venues mentioned on the wiki, and

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf13 sponsorship brochure: last details

2012-10-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 20/10/12 12:00, Raphael Walther wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > Le jeudi 18 octobre 2012 à 14:42 +0200, Daniel Pocock a écrit : > >> I think we should apply for sponsorship for both possible cantons/venues >> - they are both valid options if we get sponsorship >>

[Debconf-team] Balmer's quote added to SVN

2012-10-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
fficial partner, this does not seem unreasonable for us. Nonetheless, this is an initial quote and may be subject to further negotiation. Regards, Daniel ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team

Re: [Debconf-team] Balmer's quote added to SVN

2012-10-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 20/10/12 16:29, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le samedi, 20 octobre 2012 14.03:15, Daniel Pocock a écrit : > >> Average rate is 25 CHF/night including breakfast and bus pass. >> >> I believe this is highly competitive, as they would normally charge >>

[Debconf-team] Venue comparison wiki and spreadsheet

2012-10-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
I've prepared a spreadsheet and wiki comparing the budget and high level issues for DC13 in CH: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/VenueComparison http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debconf-data/dc13/venue-evaluation/cashflow-alternatives.xls ___ De

Re: [Debconf-team] Venue comparison wiki and spreadsheet

2012-10-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 21/10/12 17:22, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi there! > > On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:33:24 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> I've prepared a spreadsheet > ^^^ > [...] >> http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debconf-data/dc13/venue-eval

[Debconf-team] Switzerland checklist issues, Interlaken checklist added

2012-10-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
I used the Vaumarcus checklist as a template for creating an Interlaken checklist: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Switzerland/Bid/Vaumarcus http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/InterlakenChecklist While going through it, I noticed some issues: "Visas: Which/how many countries' cit

[Debconf-team] DebConf13 fundraising page

2012-10-22 Thread Daniel Pocock
I've added a fundraising wiki page: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Fundraising I've added the links I found for Interlaken and also the link supplied by Raphael. Does anyone have links for the Swiss foundations that have been mentioned? _

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf13 fundraising page

2012-10-22 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 22/10/12 13:19, Raphael Walther wrote: > Hi everyone ! > Le lundi 22 octobre 2012 à 12:37 +0200, Daniel Pocock a écrit : >> >> >> I've added a fundraising wiki page: >> >> http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Fundraising >> >> I'v

[Debconf-team] not a registration fee, but...

2012-10-22 Thread Daniel Pocock
I understand that there is not widespread support for the registration fee concept at face value However, there is some benefit to advertising such a fee, and then `sponsoring' individuals by waiving the fee for them. The main benefit is that DebConf can ask people to `find their own sponsor' b

Re: [Debconf-team] Switzerland checklist issues, Interlaken checklist added

2012-10-22 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 22/10/12 15:36, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Daniel Pocock writes: > >> I used the Vaumarcus checklist as a template for creating an Interlaken >> checklist: >> >> http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Switzerland/Bid/Vaumarcus >> >> http://wiki.debc

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