Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
>> We can decide these things at the meeting where we discuss the issue > > You are continuing the "what if" game. > > We cannot engineering all possibilities, and we are Debian / DebConf, so > no committee. but doers! If you want to continue with your idea, go > asking informally people, give u

Re: [Debconf-team] And regarding the Penta replacement

2012-08-15 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 06:22:43PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Now, what do we need to get this working? > > - More people involved. I'm very bad at managing my time and have > several projects going on, so I know I will fail if I do this > myself. Who are the Ruby coders amongst us, besides

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 08/15/2012 06:13 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >>> c) after DebConf: will bandwidth still be available for another 1-2 >>> weeks? Will there be billing issues? >> >> I don't think Le Camp will be available after DebConf. And I think we >> should only think about DebCamp parallel events. >> > > T

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mercredi, 15 août 2012 18.13:29, Daniel Pocock a écrit : > Given the limited (326) beds, my feeling is we should aim for groups > that won't stay during DebConf itself. For the same reason, given the expressed concerns about 325 being not enough, I'm quite convinced we'll reach the average of

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
>> c) after DebConf: will bandwidth still be available for another 1-2 >> weeks? Will there be billing issues? > > I don't think Le Camp will be available after DebConf. And I think we > should only think about DebCamp parallel events. > Topping up numbers for the DebCamp week is the highest pr

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 15/08/12 15:41, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi there! > > On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:01:20 +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 03:08:51PM +0100, Nattie Mayer-Hutchings wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 01:37:45PM +, Daniel Pocock wrote: But the issue of attendance during the D

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:01:20 +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 03:08:51PM +0100, Nattie Mayer-Hutchings wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 01:37:45PM +, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> > But the issue of attendance during the DebCamp week has very real >> > financial implic

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
On 15.08.2012 16:49, Daniel Pocock wrote: On 15/08/12 14:23, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: On 15.08.2012 15:37, Daniel Pocock wrote: But the issue of attendance during the DebCamp week has very real financial implications - you don't think it is worth looking at options to mitigate such risks? i

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi Nattie, On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 03:08:51PM +0100, Nattie Mayer-Hutchings wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 01:37:45PM +, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > But the issue of attendance during the DebCamp week has very real > > financial implications - you don't think it is worth looking at options > >

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 15/08/12 14:23, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > On 15.08.2012 15:37, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> But the issue of attendance during the DebCamp week has very real >> financial implications - you don't think it is worth looking at options >> to mitigate such risks? > > it is an interesting options. Many

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Nattie Mayer-Hutchings
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 01:37:45PM +, Daniel Pocock wrote: > But the issue of attendance during the DebCamp week has very real > financial implications - you don't think it is worth looking at options > to mitigate such risks? As much as your willingness to be helpful is appreciated, there ha

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] Updates from Le Camp meeting

2012-08-15 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Christian, On Mittwoch, 15. August 2012, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Just as a confirmation, by the way, for the local team: I will 100% > come with my own car. That makes transportation of all video gear from > IRILL in Paris a non problem and also bring to Vaumarcus a 7-seater > Citroen Evasio

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
On 15.08.2012 15:37, Daniel Pocock wrote: But the issue of attendance during the DebCamp week has very real financial implications - you don't think it is worth looking at options to mitigate such risks? it is an interesting options. Many conferences has satellite conferences just before or af

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 15/08/12 13:03, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mercredi, 15 août 2012 14.51:20, Daniel Pocock a écrit : >> Another idea: what if (…) > > In french we say: "Avec des `si', on peut mettre Paris en bouteille". Which > translates to something like "With `what if's, one can put Paris in a bottle"

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] Updates from Le Camp meeting

2012-08-15 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Marc SCHAEFER (schae...@alphanet.ch): > Nature: walking is free, and from Le Camp you can go to many places (bath > at the lake -- usually adequate temperature in August -- or take > the boat for a lake excursion [2]; climb up the mountains > to the Creux-du-Van natural preservation site [

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mercredi, 15 août 2012 14.51:20, Daniel Pocock a écrit : > Another idea: what if (…) In french we say: "Avec des `si', on peut mettre Paris en bouteille". Which translates to something like "With `what if's, one can put Paris in a bottle". ___ Debcon

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancellation policy

2012-08-15 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 15. August 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: > As mentioned before, I believe publishing a statement like this will > help getting people to pay earlier. It may also give sponsors more > confidence in the event. I have not seen any indication that sponsors are not confident in the even

Re: [Debconf-team] And regarding the Penta replacement

2012-08-15 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Mario, thanks for joining the conversation! On Mittwoch, 15. August 2012, Mario Manno wrote: > I'm maintaining the "katastrophie" frab fork. We used that one for the > SIGINT12 conference and I'm currently working towards a CCC-wide frab > installation. cool. Do you think/know whether this ye

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] split debcamp?

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 14/08/12 20:17, Michele Cane wrote: > On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 20:11 +, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> >> >> Given the threshold for 200 beds/night, does it make sense to have >> DebCamp elsewhere, but not too far away hopefully? > > No, DebCamp is used to prepare the venue and the venue is Le Camp.

Re: [Debconf-team] Cancellation policy

2012-08-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 14/08/12 14:26, Brian Gupta wrote: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Dienstag, 14. August 2012, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: >>> Not really. Until we start giving something to the customers, we are >>> obliged to return money to the customer, if he ask so. Yo

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] Updates from Le Camp meeting

2012-08-15 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:35:34PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: ... > be best (this would mean 3. to 17. august). This year quite some people > left one day early because they wanted to be home on Sunday to restart > work on Monday. Could this be because a lot of people had to take a transanlati

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] Updates from Le Camp meeting

2012-08-15 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
Hello, IF a trip/excursion is wanted, as was mentionned before, public transportation can be used e.g. to Neuchâtel (slow) or Yverdon (slightly faster). Note that the Swiss Railway System has group tickets, so we might get a discount on the normal price if we travel together. However, this may pr

Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf13-localteam] Updates from Le Camp meeting

2012-08-15 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi Michele Cane writes: > Hi > On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 23:35 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >> Hi >> >> For debconf-team readers, please see the start of the thread at: >> http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20120814.194536.48d8e25a.en.html >> >> debconf13-localteam members: Please crosspos