Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Hi Josh, I found bronze threaded tees and plugs from West Marine and use marelon barb fittings. The bronze fittings have tapered treads while the marelon fittings have straight thread which adds some drama, but a good seal is possible. I used full size fittings. I don't use teflon tape, but use

Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Had some worry yesterday morning. Our temps here in Maryland would be cold for *January*, let alone November. I usually don’t winterize until around Christmas, so I just turned the heat on the low 500 watt setting and set the thermostat to 50. Apparently it was not enough and when I got to work

Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Chuck, I would not mix thread types. Your seal is only as good as the glue because you don't have enough surface contact between the threads.I like the idea of a tee, but I have not gotten around to installing one. Joe, I only winterized the fresh water and waste. I figure the Bay water is stil

Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Gary Zuehlke via CnC-List
Now you have me worried Joe. My heat is set to 50 also and it has been very cold. Good news is everything is winterized but since I'm bubbling, I always worry. One thing to crack a thru hull, another for it to cause the boat to sink! Also got a call from a fellow boater in the area of the marin

Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
My boat is a solid glass hull, so my cabin temperature is very much influenced by the water temperature. If your boat is balsa cored you will have less heating from warmer water than I do. The temps are going back up, so you are likely fine for now, but I would not count TOO much on salt water b

Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Plenty of boats sit all winter with no heat in Maryland. I have never heard of a thru-hull freezing and cracking even when boats sit locked in ice. Maybe it is possible, but I would not worry too much about it. I like to keep the boat warm because I hate going to do some work in a cold-soaked ca

Re: Stus-List Winterizing Checklist

2014-11-20 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
Smart alec! Freezing here in STL; 20deg F below normal. Ron Wild Cheri On Tue, 11/18/14, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Checklist To: "CnClist" Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2014, 4:18 PM Touche' winterizing che

Re: Stus-List Winterizing Checklist

2014-11-20 Thread Gary Zuehlke via CnC-List
Looking like two bubblers per boat. We'll shut off when we can to save power, but I think they'll be running around the clock. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Gary, > Do you use a bubbler where you are now? I figured you st

Re: Stus-List Winterizing Checklist

2014-11-20 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
I believe one of the sail lofts gave the name "blooper" to a cruising spinnaker as well. That would be basically an asymmetrical spinnaker that's only about 165% overlap instead of the 180% width for a symmetric. Don't exactly know how they figure the size to replace the symmetric on an older b

Re: Stus-List Winterizing Checklist

2014-11-20 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
I've dried them on the grass after washing. But did you ever notice that seems to drive birds crazy and they feel they have to dive bomb the sails??? Then you end up spot cleaning and wonder if it was all worth it. Ron Wild Cheri On Tue, 11/18/14, Chu

Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
I agree with those that suggest a heater of some kind if nothing can be done. It's amazing what a 100w bulb can do. But to put your mind a bit at ease, the water has to freeze pretty solid to have enough pressure to crack the block. First it goes through the mushy stage and expands in all dire

Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
Speaking of heaters, what types do you use? We have been using an oil radiator for years because I thought they would be safer. But I heard on caught fire on a boat last year and am a little less confident about that now. Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 C&C 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 ___

Re: Stus-List Winterizing Checklist

2014-11-20 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Dart board -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:34 PM To: Letsgo Sailing; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Checklist I believe one of the sail loft

Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Gary Zuehlke via CnC-List
I was the same but then a oul filled caused an outlet in my basement to fry. Now I ama fan of new if there is any question at all. On Nov 20, 2014 12:08 PM, "Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Speaking of heaters, what types do you use? We have been using an oil > radia

Stus-List heaters

2014-11-20 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Check your insurance policy. Mine specifically states no unattended heaters between Dec 1 and April 30. They are OK to have one while you are aboard I use ceramic heater. On our J27 would fire up three of those on boxing day and watch the World Junior Hockey championship on board on my digita

Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Fear of fires has been the reason I don't leave ANY electric space heaters on while not on the boat. I use a ceramic heater while working on it through the winter but only under supervision. Josh On Nov 20, 2014 12:08 PM, "Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Speaking of

Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
Per this thread I just bought one of these oil pan heaters for our 2gm20F on our C&C 1989 30-2. http://www.amazon.com/Kats-24050-Watt-Universal-Heater/dp/B000I8YPQ4 We use the boat all winter and occasionally race her Sundays t

Stus-List Annual sailing invite

2014-11-20 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
As always, listers needing a winter sailing fix are welcome for a sail on Touche' anytime they have occasion to be in the New Orleans/Lake Pontchartrain area. The Admiral and I plan to cruise the Pensacola area the 1st week of December then head home. I hope to have Touche' back in the slip in Ma

Stus-List Looks like a C&C design...

2014-11-20 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
An article was referenced in this week’s Cruising Compass about a family moving their newly-purchased 1969 sailboat through the Great Lakes. Check out the accompanying photo — from the cove stripe, she looks like a C&C: http://vineyardgazette.com/news/2014/11/12/duluth-vineyard-haven-island-fam

Re: Stus-List Looks like a C&C design...

2014-11-20 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
The comments made an interesting read. Dennis C. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > An article was referenced in this week’s *Cruising Compass* about a > family moving their newly-purchased 1969 sailboat through the Great Lakes. > C

Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30

2014-11-20 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30 "We don’t often have ties in our Best Boats competition, but with two very different and equally exciting boats in the 30ft-and-under performance category, we just couldn’t go with a single winner. The first of the two is the C&C 30. If you’ve been racing sai

Stus-List protocol

2014-11-20 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
What is the accepted method on this list for sharing things like pictures that are larger than 60k? Burt ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribin

Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30

2014-11-20 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Its good to see the boat is being well received. They are taking orders for #19. It is slightly less expensive than a Farr 28​ and is designed for more than around the buoy racing. It is supposed to be a one design in the Annapolis NOOD in the spring. Maybe I can catch a ride? I have nothing aga

Re: Stus-List protocol

2014-11-20 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Burt, Post them to a file/phot sharing site like dropbox, google docs, flickr etc. and send out the link. Joel On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > What is the accepted method on this list for sharing things like pictures > that are large

Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30 and anchor test

2014-11-20 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Also, that issue has an article on testing several anchors. Worth a read if you're in the market. Dennis C. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Its good to see the boat is being well received. They are taking orders > for #19. It is slig

Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Interesting reading on the use of heaters on our boats. I have a 1500 watt electric on board but I only turn it on when I am around ( around means on board or on the the club premises whether in the water or on the hard). On the hard now, of course. I think our club has a boatyard policy which

Stus-List Draft

2014-11-20 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
I just got schooled by my boat (again). The specifications for my boat show it having a draft of 5’6”. (This is a 1974 C&C 33 ¾ tonner). I bought (used) jack stands for her winter stay in my back yard based on that. I just had her delivered and found out my stands are too short. I was able to reco

Re: Stus-List Draft

2014-11-20 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Burt, The brochure for the later 33 shows 3 keels. It is unlikely that someone modified the keel, but it is not unheard of. Better chance that there were factory options. Joel On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I just got schooled by

Re: Stus-List Looks like a C&C design...

2014-11-20 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
Twice I have seen recently repainted boats (one a Catalina, one a Hunter) who put C&C stars under the toe rail. Then there was a Taiwan knock-off (I think they bought a boat and made a mold from the hull) and I was pretty sure it was a C&C 40 knock-off but the owner assured me it was 'just like

Re: Stus-List Looks like a C&C design...

2014-11-20 Thread Bill Bina via CnC-List
"Like a Swan only cheaper" may have been a Baltic 39. The hull was designed by C&C and has the C&C cove stripe with the familiar diamond/star. They were built to a pretty high standard, complete with teak decks. Bill

Re: Stus-List Draft

2014-11-20 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
The picture shows your boat has the deeper keel. That's better for performance. Deeper, stiffer, lighter. Glad to hear the yard helped with the stands. They sound like good people. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "CNC boat owne

Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30

2014-11-20 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
I sailed on one in New York a couple of weeks ago (it was cold then, but I'm glad it wasn't this week). In ~5-7 knots we were going upwind at 6 at a very tight angle. The wind got up to 12, occasionally gusting 15 and we went back downwind hitting 12.5 knots (trying to heat it up, not soak). All

Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30

2014-11-20 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Wow, 19 boats? That's amazing. What was the boat that tied with the C&C 30 for Best Boat? - Original Message - From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" To: "Heaton, Ken" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:43:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best

Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread randy via CnC-List
Kevin, let me know the dates, we can probably arrange to share a libation with ya! We do a Christmas lights cruise, quite low key, but usually makes the local paper, and I can let you know dates when I hear them. Feel free to contact me if ya need more info about anything, randy 29-II T

Re: Stus-List Sail Magazine Best Boats 2015: C&C 30

2014-11-20 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Probably the 35! :) Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 04:46 PM 20/11/2014, you wrote: Wow, 19 boats? That's amazing. What was the boat that tied with the C&C 30 for Best Boat? -- From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" To: "Heaton, Ken" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sen

Re: Stus-List Looks like a C&C design...

2014-11-20 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
I spent a couple of weeks on one of those Baltic 39s, sailing from St. Martin to Newport, via Bermuda. Definitely not cheaper than a C&C 39. There was a really deep drop down from the cockpit into the main part of the boat because of a "hallway" linking the 2 sides of the rear cabin. Other th

Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
Tom, I use the oil filled heater too, because I think they are safer. I used to use a ceramic heater all the time, but now I'm being more cautious. I still use the ceramic heater, but only when I'm onboard. The heat is almost instant and makes the cabin feel much better. Jake Jake Brodersen "

Re: Stus-List mixed thread fittings

2014-11-20 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Hi Joel, I mention the mixed threads as a warning. Don't see any way around it. My fittings are tight. FYI, I helped my brother replace a seacock on his Boston Whaler 23. Hi quality boat. The bronze thru-hull had a 6" long nipple with non-tapered threads. A mushroom shaped nut secured the thr

Re: Stus-List Looks like a C&C design...

2014-11-20 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
I like my C&C 34R for the 4 step companionway. The Swan and Baltics have 6 to 8 steps down into cabin. Spent some time sailing a Benneteau Sense 55 that had only 3 steps, but it lacked a bridgedeck. - Original Message - From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" To: "Bill Bina" , "CNC boat

Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
Thanks Randy. We do some Christmas shipping in Portland so will have lights on the boat already. Maybe we can slot in. Will be on touch On Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 6:09 PM Jake Brodersen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Tom, > > I use the oil filled heater too, because I think they are sa

Re: Stus-List Draft

2014-11-20 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
I couldn't tell from your picture, Burt, but if your jack stands are sitting on the bare ground (dirt or gravel) I hope you remembered to place plywood under the stands. Otherwise, be prepared to see the stands sink when the weather becomes wet. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC P

Re: Stus-List Winter worries

2014-11-20 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
The heater itself is rarely what catches on fire, it is the cord. The safest thing is a hard-wired marine rated engine compartment heater. That said, the oil heaters don't get hot enough to ignite anything unless they short circuit or something. Be sure to check THE PLUG. THAT is what burns up. Jo

Re: Stus-List Draft

2014-11-20 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
Yes I do have PT 2x6 under each foot of each stand. The ground under the boat is crushed stone bank. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bergen via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:02 PM To: C&C Photoalbum email list Subject: Re: Stus-List Dr

Re: Stus-List Annual sailing invite

2014-11-20 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
Ditto. If in Portland and we are available, anybody is welcome to come out with us. "Roll on Columbia, roll on. " On Thu, Nov 20, 2014, 11:13 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > As always, listers needing a winter sailing fix are welcome for a sail on > Touche' anytime they have occasion to be in