Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks

2013-01-11 Thread Tim Goodyear
The cause of the cracks was wet core just outboard / above the solid glass at the turn of the bilge (right by the mast step). There was a void between the mast step assembly (glass) and the hull proper that allowed water to sit for a while (29 years?) against the inner laminate... I now have full

Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks

2013-01-11 Thread dwight veinot
Tim Do you have any photos of the repair that you can share? If so I'd like to have a look, please Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear Sent: January 11, 2013 9:59 AM

Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks

2013-01-11 Thread Joel Aronson
Tim, Any preventitive measures others can take? On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Tim Goodyear wrote: > The cause of the cracks was wet core just outboard / above the solid glass > at the turn of the bilge (right by the mast step). There was a void > between the mast step assembly (glass) and

Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks

2013-01-11 Thread Tim Goodyear
Not yet, Dwight, but there will be some. I'll also share some from the prior (more extensive) core work I had done a couple of years ago. Any idea how I can effectively share with this list...? They're not great quality photos (taken with a phone by the yard), but they tell the story. As to pre

Re: Stus-List Stus-Trip Planning

2013-01-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe
We should be in Saint Mike's by 7/3 or 7/4. Try and make our annual regatta if you can - I'm going to make a "cruising" division for people that don't want to go to Baltimore light and race over. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nyla

Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks

2013-01-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe
The 35-1 will have a "crack" if the keel bolts need tightening, AKA the C&C Smile, but AFAIK the keel stub itself stays on the hull with no cracks. BTW - while the 35 is a lightly built boat and a bit flexible, ours has taken a pounding and then some in 20 foot breaking seas and hung in there. J

Stus-List Barrier Coating after Soda Blasting

2013-01-11 Thread Edd Schillay
Listers, I'm getting the hull of the Enterprise soda blasted this year and the plan is to do the barrier coating myself afterwards. So, a few questions: 1. I've heard Interprotect is a good product. Anyone have any recommendations? How many gallons for a 37+'s hull?

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coating after Soda Blasting

2013-01-11 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Who have you hired for Science Officer? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:48 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Barrier Coating after Soda Blasting Listers, I'm gettin

Re: Stus-List Stus-Trip Planning

2013-01-11 Thread Gary Nylander
I will be here - probably no Wednesday race on July 4, as they tend to avoid holidays - too many powerboats. Are you going to be at Higgins Yacht Yard again? Gary - Original Message - From: Della Barba, Joe To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:34 AM Sub

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coating after Soda Blasting

2013-01-11 Thread Edd Schillay
Mike, Lt. Kurt, who I've known since third grade, was the best man at my wedding, and has been racing on my team for years is my Science Officer. He can calculate, in his head, time-on-time racing handicaps during a race and the physics of air flow over the sail. In his "real life", he'

Re: Stus-List Stus-Trip Planning

2013-01-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Nah - we anchor out if we don't need shore power for heat. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:50 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-Trip Planning I will be here - probably

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coating after Soda Blasting

2013-01-11 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Edd Lt Kurt sounds like the logical person to research your barrier coat question. The one main piece of advice - make sure it is not an old batch and has no lumpy qualities. Sucks to make the bottom smooth and then put on a lumpy bottom coat! Contact Interlux support. They have a support

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coating after Soda Blasting

2013-01-11 Thread Dennis C.
Edd,  I had Touche' barrier coatedtwice.  The first time an idiot did it and rolled it on.  The second time a guy who specialized in bottoms (boat bottoms, that is) did it and he sprayed it on.  My vote goes to spraying it on.   I2000E is a very good product. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Man

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coating after Soda Blasting

2013-01-11 Thread LKL Architects
Hello Edd, May of 2011, here along the Texas Gulf Coast I too had Finesse , a LF39, soda blasted and on the recommendation of the boat yard: 1. Used the Interlux primer-cleaner 2. Applied 2 full coats of the 2000E and a 3rd coat over the keel and up the hull about 1/2 way using a rolle

Stus-List Barrier coat

2013-01-11 Thread Maturo, John
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Re: Stus-List Barrier Coating after Soda Blasting

2013-01-11 Thread Tim Goodyear
I was advised to apply one coat of your chosen antifouling (Trinidad hard antifouling was what I used as the base and have applied Vivid over that since) before the final coat cures completely, otherwise you will have to sand to get it to adhere to the epoxy. Tim Mojito 1984 C&C 35-3 Branford, CT

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coating after Soda Blasting

2013-01-11 Thread Rick Brass
I've been told that bottom paint (particularly ablative paint) has a hard time sticking to cured 2000E, even after sanding. So it is best to apply a thin coat of hard bottom paint to the last coat of 2000E before it is fully cured. The bottom paint bonds with the barrier coat and acts as a primer f

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 84, Issue 37

2013-01-11 Thread MICHAEL CULLEN
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Re: Stus-List Barrier Coating after Soda Blasting

2013-01-11 Thread Wally Bryant
Edd - I used Interlux 2000E on Stella Blue in 2011, and used 5-1/2 gallons. It's the thickness, not the number of coats, so go ahead and use a solvent-resistant roller and brush and lay it on thick. It has a pretty long pot life, and if you mix up too much at any one time you can put the can

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coating after Soda Blasting

2013-01-11 Thread Ken Heaton
Hi Edd, +1 to what everybody else said. I've used Interlux InterProtect 2000E too. I like it. As Mike said, there is lots of info on http://www.yachtpaint.com/can/diy/media-center/technical-bulletin.aspx Here's a good overview of the process: http://www.yachtpaint.com/LiteratureCentre/gelcoat

Re: Stus-List Stus-Trip Planning

2013-01-11 Thread schil...@bloomingdalecom.net
Not quite that simple. The levels of Lake Michigan/Lake Huron have really crashed this year. We are at the lowest recorded level since they have been taking data. Lots of theories as to why (dredging out the bedrock in the St Clair river, two warm dry years, etc.). We have been in South Have

Stus-List Now my usual rambling drivel (was: Trip Planning)

2013-01-11 Thread Wally Bryant
Well, perhaps it's time to buy 'Land' about a mile east of Lake Shore Drive in Chicago... Heck, 50 years ago everybody laughed at the fools who bought Florida swamp land, and the fools are all millionaires. I recently watched 'Six Degrees Could Change The World.' Apparently we're only 1.8 d

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coating after Soda Blasting

2013-01-11 Thread Wally Bryant
Roger that. Interlux also recommends it, and provides timing info. I put hard paint on, then ablative over that, with a different color. While I prefer to clean my own hull these days, I've been known to get lazy and hire a local. Some of these guys think every boat is like his brother-in-la

Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks

2013-01-11 Thread Tim Goodyear
I haven't tried sharing anything via Google+, so don't know if they force you to have a Google ID. Anyway, here are some pictures of the core work from Spring 2011 and a couple of pictures from chainplate reinforcement from the prior year. This year it's just the keel sump (pictures to be posted

Re: Stus-List Now my usual rambling drivel (was: Trip Planning)

2013-01-11 Thread Rich Knowles
S! Don't tell anyone! Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-01-11, at 16:38, Wally Bryant wrote: > Apparently we're only 1.8 degrees away from Canada becoming the new > Breadbasket Of The World. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Al

Re: Stus-List Now my usual rambling drivel (was: Trip Planning)

2013-01-11 Thread Andrew Burton
Well given that I'm sitting on a boat in Buzzards Bay headed to Newport right now, I wouldn't mind a little global warming. It's cold! Besides what do we care if the seas rise? We have boats! We'll be ok. Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/and

Re: Stus-List Now my usual rambling drivel

2013-01-11 Thread Sam Salter
I live at 4,280 ft. Another 1.8 degrees and this will be lake front property! sam :-) C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta On 11/01/2013 1:38 PM, Wally Bryant wrote: Well, perhaps it's time to buy 'Land' about a mile east of Lake Shore Drive in Chicago... Heck, 50 years ago everybody laughed

Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks

2013-01-11 Thread dwight veinot
Picasa Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear Sent: January 11, 2013 11:12 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks Not yet, Dwight, but there

Re: Stus-List Now my usual rambling drivel (was: Trip Planning)

2013-01-11 Thread Russ & Melody
Once I learned that Canada is going to be a net benefactor of global warming I was all over it. "I'll have the diesel truck with the biggest engine ya got!" I could not understand why my Lotus Land companions supported the B.C. carbon tax. And I became a fan of the Alberta oil sands projects

Re: Stus-List Now my usual rambling drivel (was: Trip Planning)

2013-01-11 Thread Frederick G Street
Enough sea-level rise and you'll be able to cross the Isthmus without using the Panama Canal... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Jan 11, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Russ & Melody wrote: > Sadly, the global warming benefit is unlikely t

Stus-List HAM radio on board

2013-01-11 Thread Colomba
Good day last October I made my ham radio licence. Whatever, hard stuff. Of cause my main idea is to bring the ham radio onto Colomba (C&C34) and I`m wondering ho to install the antenna. Perhaps someone had same idea and some solutions. In the moment I`m modelling the boat incl. rigging wit

Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks

2013-01-11 Thread William Hall
Ouch. Brings back bad memories. I re-cored the deck of an E-22 once. Not fun. Did the surveyor go over the hull with a moisture meter as part of the survey? How long was that before you had to tear into it like this? On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Tim Goodyear wrote: > I haven't tried sha

Re: Stus-List HAM radio on board

2013-01-11 Thread Frederick G Street
Peter -- on this side of the pond, it's common to use a completely-isolated backstay for the antenna. I'd be concerned about getting RF burns if you don't isolate at the top (using the mast and the rest of the stays/shrouds as antennas); and depending on your transmit power, you'd need quite a

Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks

2013-01-11 Thread Tim Goodyear
Yes, the survey included use of a moisture meter, and showed some wetness in the deck, which I fixed last year (and had expected to for some time), and a very limited area of the hull (which turned out to be fine and solid glass when samples were taken). It was about four years before I saw issues

Re: Stus-List Stus-Trip Planning

2013-01-11 Thread wwadjo...@aol.com
Neil, I am in Pentwater, Mi and feel your pain. Is it your dockage or your channel out to Lake Michigan that is the problem? We are all fighting the channel dredging issue with the State/Feds. Bill Walker Evening Star C n C 36 - Reply message - From: "schil...@bloomingdalecom.net"

Re: Stus-List Keel stub cracks

2013-01-11 Thread dwight veinot
Tim Once that job is done right you'll have a real sound and a very pretty boat.I think she was worth the effort and expense. I noted a year or two back on this list about mast step/ keel sump area issues with the 35 MKIII and the 33MKII but that info did not go over well with some owners

Re: Stus-List HAM radio on board

2013-01-11 Thread Colomba
Hi Fred of cause, basic idea is to use only an auto-tuner ... but, if you look at the possibilities, on 7 MHZ ( 40m band) there will be no chance for any auto-tuner to match the aft stay (on the C&C 34 with 12.7m isolated aft stay length, other length of cause may be possible). To illustrate

Re: Stus-List Stus-Trip Planning

2013-01-11 Thread Schiller
Actually, it's both. I slip at the Municipal marina (Museum Docks). They have been dredging since closing and I seriously think that the water is a good 8-9 feet below the dock. The docks were place 6 feet above mean low water (MLW). When we had the boat pulled out we were showing a couple o

Stus-List Adjusting wire tension in Edson steering systems

2013-01-11 Thread Eric Frank
Inspecting and lubricating the cables below the cockpit on my Edson steering system (radial quadrant on the rudder post located aft of the pedestal), the cables appear to be rather loose. Where do I take up the tension in this wire? Can it be done from the top of the pedestal with the compass

Re: Stus-List Adjusting wire tension in Edson steering systems

2013-01-11 Thread dwight veinot
Should be 2 turn buckles on the wire aft of the quadrant Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric Frank Sent: January 11, 2013 9:26 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Adju

Re: Stus-List Adjusting wire tension in Edson steering systems

2013-01-11 Thread Andrew Burton
There may be two eye bolts at the quadrant, each with two nuts. Adjust them equally if you want the wheel to remain the same, ie, if you have a mark for when the rudder's centered. Also, read what Edson says about tension, it's very important not to over-tension the cables. Andrew Burton 61 W N

Re: Stus-List Barrier Coating after Soda Blasting

2013-01-11 Thread kirk sneddon
Did the bottom of my boat six years ago when I purchased it. We did 2 coats of the high build primer (I think the designation is Interprotect 3000) followed by 3 coats of the Interprotect 2000. It is a good product line. The key is build thickness. If you don't get enough thickness the epox

Re: Stus-List Stus-Ian Matthews

2013-01-11 Thread Richard N. Bush
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