s altogether. I might have been among the last "regular
> people" allowed to visit if his prediction came true.
>
> Steve Thomas
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Rick
> Brass
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30,
Try this link:
http://chrismolloy.com/page.php?u=p152
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Ronald B. Frerker wrote:
>
> Great Fred! It's a nice link, but it's like a trail of bread crumbs. Now
> I'll
Great Fred! It's a nice link, but it's like a trail of bread crumbs. Now I'll
have to check on all those esoteric additional links.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
STL
--- On Wed, 1/30/13, Frederick G Street wrote:
From: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
To: cn
There are meridian marks in several locations around Paris, including inside
the Louvre; and yes, the building (Paris Observatory) still stands:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_meridian
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Jan
came true.
Steve Thomas
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Rick Brass
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:36 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
These days you'd be REALLY far out to sea. You are supposed t
-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della
Barba, Joe
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 2:57 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Hint: Don't tell the Sunfish rental guy you were miles out to sea. They get
annoyed for some reason.
Joe Della Barba
From
rote:
From: elev...@grayinsco.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
To:
Cc: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" , "CnC-List"
Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 4:11 PM
I will add another element to the GPS/Sextant
thread. It is a story I read years ago in a magazine.
A circumnavigator was
unfamiliar shores, islands, and shoals.
Ed
C&C 30 Mk 1 Dreamgirl
C&C 34 (To be named)
New Orleans
From: Martin DeYoung
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" ,
Date: 01/29/2013 02:12 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Sent by:"CnC-List"
At the finish of
l may have been a factor.
Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle
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Joe
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:57 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Hint: Don'
Hint: Don't tell the Sunfish rental guy you were miles out to sea. They get
annoyed for some reason.
Joe Della Barba
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Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 2:29 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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t;Welcome to Jamaica" was priceless.
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
>
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Steve
> Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:54 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
>
&g
ways due
north before setting course to Newport.
Steve Thomas
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Della Barba,
Joe
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:58 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Bermuda is harder
until reaching the latitude of your destination and then just sailing due
east, keeping the latitude constant.
Eric Frank
Cat'sPaw
> From: "Della Barba, Joe"
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
> Message-ID:
> <107
ing to the
> correct latitude and then east or west to the destination. That's what the
> knotted line and stick were for.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30
> STL
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 1/29/13, Della Barba, Joe * wrote:
>
>
> From: Della Barba, Joe
> Subject:
Re: Stus-List Sextant
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 11:30 AM
We used a sextant to find Bermuda in 1980 and it was a major PITA. In rough
seas on a small boat getting any accuracy beyond maybe +/- 15 miles is doing
very well. Just taking the sight and no
Welcome to Jamaica" was priceless.
Joe Della Barba
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Steve Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:54 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Some people have used jet contrails to find Hawaii.
Steve Thomas
Some people have used jet contrails to find Hawaii.
Steve Thomas
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Joel Aronson
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Those were the days
Those were the days!
Joel Aronson
On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:30 PM, "Della Barba, Joe"
wrote:
We used a sextant to find Bermuda in 1980 and it was a major PITA. In rough
seas on a small boat getting any accuracy beyond maybe +/- 15 miles is
doing very well. Just taking the sight and not falling ov
We used a sextant to find Bermuda in 1980 and it was a major PITA. In rough
seas on a small boat getting any accuracy beyond maybe +/- 15 miles is doing
very well. Just taking the sight and not falling overboard or dropping the
sextant was an accomplishment. We ended up running a latitude line n
ace in '91. And the knowledge of those
methods aids in understanding some modern equipment.Useful for off shore and
coastal boaters.RonWild CheriC&C 30STL
--- On Mon, 1/28/13, Jim Brown wrote:
From: Jim Brown
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Monday, Jan
f nautical
topics.
Rick Brass
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Frerker
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:35 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Thomas
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:02 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
One thing about GPS is that the system is under the direct
the front of my nautical almanac.
Rick Brass
Washington, NC
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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
.and also remember, a chronometer doesn&#
ry 28, 2013 7:01 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Is it not common knowledge that the sun essentially remains fixed for all
intents and purposes and the earth does the moving?
Do sextants work in the southern hemisphere?
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
The deal with shooting star sights is that you set the sextant altitude (angle)
to the expected altitude of the star and then line it up with the horizon and
point the sextant in the direction of the star (its azimuth). So for shooting
Polaris you set the altitude to your latitude and point the
list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack Brennan
Sent: January-28-13 10:02 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
The idea that Europeans thought the Earth was flat until the 15th century is
one of the great myths of modern history, apparently invented and perpetuated
by
Marek Dziedzic wrote:
Obviously, this must be winter
I was just thinking the same thing. It's better than cows or British
Motor Cars.
Some older offshore sailors have said to me 'all you *really* need is
latitude, and you can get home from there.' That makes sense, if you
think about it
-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Obviously, this must be winter and we have nothing
better to talk about...
What Eric described applies to 2D position (assuming
(which not that far of) that the Earth is a sphere. Most GPS receivers require
t;
>Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
>
>
>==
>
>
>From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Antoine
>Rose
>Sent: January 28, 2013 12:40 AM
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
>
>
>
>
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Antoine
Rose
Sent: January 28, 2013 12:40 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Back to your original question.
For every moment of every day, the sun is at the zenith somewhere on the
earth. Since the earth
Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
From: Ronald B. Frerker
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 11:34 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Greeks and Arabs were aware of a round earth back in 400BC.
After the Greek epicycle fiasco, they probably figured out about the
earth rota
Eric Haberfellner" <[ mailto:e...@firstclass.com ]e...@firstclass.com>
>To: [ mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com ]cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
>Message-ID:
><[ mailto:fc.86e905b9b9b13b9aca00b8aaf7aa.5b9b...@firstclass.com
>]fc.86e905b9b9b13b9ac
accuracy)). You
need more satellites to get a 3D fix.
Marek
C&C24 Fennel in Ottawa
Message: 5
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:23:51 -0500
From: "Eric Haberfellner"
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
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Just
ailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On
Behalf Of dwight veinot
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013
10:01 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Was the sextant invented before we knew the
difference?
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of
Fennel in Ottawa
From: Rich Knowles
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
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Interesting stuff. FWIW, it's now common practice for broadcasters,
some problems?No right or
wrong, since earth and sun are both moving.RonWild CheriC&C 30STL
--- On Mon, 1/28/13, dwight veinot wrote:
From: dwight veinot
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 9:40 AM
13 10:31 AM
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
>
>
>
>
>The sextant is comparable to a hand saw and chisel these days, but as
>pointed out, the use and study of celestial nav allows one to understand the
>whole concept of nav with celestial objec
One thing about GPS is that the system is under the direct control of the U.S.
military. They might decide to mess with it if
there was an operational reason for doing so. More remote possibilities would
be damage to the system from solar activity or
electromagnetic pulse from an atomic bomb abov
AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
I don't think so - but the sextant was far from the first celestial
navigation tool.
In real life electricity flows from - to + in copper wire, but we all work
with the idea it goes + to - with no issues. The math is the same whichever
.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
STL
--- On Sun, 1/27/13, Antoine Rose
mailto:antoine.r...@videotron.ca>> wrote:
From: Antoine Rose mailto:antoine.r...@videotron.ca>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: Sunday, January 27,
CheriC&C 30STL
--- On Sun, 1/27/13, Antoine Rose wrote:
From: Antoine Rose
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Sunday, January 27, 2013, 9:43 PM
Hi Chuck,You're absolutely right, sextant will eventually be seen only in
museums. A good fix with a sextant will g
Barba
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:01 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Was the sextant invented before we knew the difference?
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret&
bject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Yes, that's common knowledge; but the process of doing celestial navigation
actually presumes that the earth (or your location on it) is fixed, and the
sun is doing the moving.
Here's one of the more concise books on the topic:
http://www.amazon.com/C
rederick G Street
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:38 AM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
>
>
>Heck, you can get your exact time from a broken watch TWICE a day… :^)
>
>
>Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38)
Yes, that's common knowledge; but the process of doing celestial navigation
actually presumes that the earth (or your location on it) is fixed, and the sun
is doing the moving.
Here's one of the more concise books on the topic:
http://www.amazon.com/Celestial-Navigation-Yachtsmen-Mary-Blewitt/
Heck, you can get your exact time from a broken watch TWICE a day… :^)
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Rick Brass wrote:
> Actually you get exact time from your GPS 8 times each day.
>>
>My understanding is that the sextant measures the angle between the Moon or
>Sun and the horizon. If you're careful reading the solar or lunor tables
>it gives you the latitude where you are. Longitude is something else. I
>know it requires a good timepiece, but how does one convert the time
problem, that the average
>error of a GPS system using the US satellites got up to 8 miles
>
>-Original Message-
>From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally
>Bryant
>Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:25 PM
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Subject
dwight veinot wrote:
Is it not common knowledge that the sun essentially remains fixed for
all intents and purposes and the earth does the moving?
Do sextants work in the southern hemisphere?
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
---
list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Antoine
Rose
Sent: January 28, 2013 12:40 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Back to your original question.
For every moment of every day, the sun is at the zenith somewhere on the
earth. Since the earth rotation covers 360 deg
Check out: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth's_rotation
Interesting stuff.
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-01-28, at 0:39, Antoine Rose wrote:
Back to your original question.
For every moment of every day, the sun is at the zenith somewhere on the earth.
Since the earth rotation
problem, that the average
error of a GPS system using the US satellites got up to 8 miles
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally
Bryant
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Yo
Back to your original question.
For every moment of every day, the sun is at the zenith somewhere on the earth.
Since the earth rotation covers 360 degree in 24 hours, the sun nadir point is
traveling 15 degrees over the earth surface every hour. The ephemeris gives you
precisely that, the locat
--Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally
Bryant
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
You can always get accurate time from your GPS... (sorry, I couldn't hel
e way like 24hr runs of over 500 miles. Amazing
> stuff. It played out like a match race. The 2nd place boat after 78 days at
> sea, was only 3 hrs behind.
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
> From: "Antoine Rose"
> To: cnc-list@cn
e"
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 7:41:41 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Chuck,
The sextant is just a sophisticated piece of equipment to measure an angle with
the precision of a minute, one sixtieth of a degree. A sextant alone will not
get you anywhere w
You can always get accurate time from your GPS... (sorry, I couldn't
help myself.)
Wal
Chuck S wrote:
I know it requires a good timepiece,
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Chuck,
The sextant is just a sophisticated piece of equipment to measure an angle with
the precision of a minute, one sixtieth of a degree. A sextant alone will not
get you anywhere without a chronometer. Any sailor visiting England should pay
a visit to the Greenwich Royal Observatory where you
2:13:02 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Power Squadron.
When I took the courses, they covered the same material as the Naval Academy.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
STL
--- On Sun, 1/27/13, David Risch wrote:
From: David Risch
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
To: "CNC CNC"
D
Boat is in MD, but I'm in CNY (finger lakes region).
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David
Risch
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:11 PM
To: CNC CNC
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Where are you located. I have a buddy who makes it very simple an
.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Anyone know where one can get training on how to use a sextant? I always get
nervous with things like You-Tube as you can’t always count on the provider
being knowledgeable.
Neil
FoxFire, 1982 C&C32
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] O
C 30
> STL
>
>
> --- On Sun, 1/27/13, David Risch wrote:
>
> From: David Risch
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
> To: "CNC CNC"
> Date: Sunday, January 27, 2013, 1:10 PM
>
> Where are you located. I have a buddy who makes it very simple
Power Squadron.When I took the courses, they covered the same material as the
Naval Academy.RonWild CheriC&C 30STL
--- On Sun, 1/27/13, David Risch wrote:
From: David Risch
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
To: "CNC CNC"
Date: Sunday, January 27, 2013, 1:10 PM
Where are yo
) 229 for Navy or 249 for Air Force.
The US Power Squadron used to use HO 229; now I believe they've gone calc.I'd
have to refresh since we don't use celestial navigation too much in St.
Louis!RonWild CheriC&C 30STL
--- On Sun, 1/27/13, Chuck S wrote:
From: Chuck S
Subje
Where are you located. I have a buddy who makes it very simple and fun. He
is in the NH/Ma area.
David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
From: neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:04:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sextant
Anyone know where one can
nday, January 27, 2013 1:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Sextant
My understanding is that the sextant measures the angle between the Moon or Sun
and the horizon. If you're careful reading the solar or lunor tables it gives
you the latitude where you are. Longitude is
My understanding is that the sextant measures the angle between the Moon or Sun
and the horizon. If you're careful reading the solar or lunor tables it gives
you the latitude where you are. Longitude is something else. I know it requires
a good timepiece, but how does one convert the time to lon
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