Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic (cats v monos vs tris)

2013-09-05 Thread Della Barba, Joe
t.com Subject: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic (cats v monos) Hi Steve. I have to chime in on the Cat v Mono debate. There are good cats and not so good cats (we call em dogs - or condomarans) - just like monos. I spent 5 years and 30K miles on a Switch 51 cat wit

Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic (cats v monos)

2013-09-05 Thread Joe at Zialater
ls. I'm not convinced - but the owner brought it back (with skipper) from France.and outside of Beaufort, the dolphins swimming between the hulls was something I'll never forget! Gary ----- Original Message - From: "Steve Thomas" To: Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 8:

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-05 Thread Steve Thomas
:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Russ & Melody Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:11 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic Simply stated, "It can be like driving a Jeep over a plowed field."

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-05 Thread Andrew Burton
t; -Original Message- > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]*On Behalf Of *Russ > & Melody > *Sent:* Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:11 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross th

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-05 Thread Steve Thomas
Correction, Elizabeth Harbour, Great Exuma. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Steve Thomas Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 10:09 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atla

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-05 Thread Russ & Melody
Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic One way to look at it, an open 40 would be anything but a comfortable ride. Flat bottom trough landings in one of those must knock your teeth out. Brent. ___ This List is provided by the C&

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-05 Thread Knowles Rich
There used to be a large cat ferry between Yarmouth Nova Scotia and Bar Harbour Maine that was fondly known as the Vomit Comet. It and other cats I've been on live up to the name. Mono hulls for this kid. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-09-05, at 10:05, "Gary Nylander" wrote: My li

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-05 Thread Gary Nylander
ursday, September 05, 2013 8:08 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic I wonder what the motion on a cat would be like. On a mono hull the roll is dampened by the wind on the sails. On a cat there is that wide stance. Anyone here have comparative experie

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-05 Thread Della Barba, Joe
e way or another. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 8:15 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic I took a 46' cruising cat f

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-05 Thread Knowles Rich
I've rethought this. I'd haul the c&c, winterize her, cover her and head for the airport. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-05 Thread Andrew Burton
er > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:38 PM > To: ja...@jpiworldwide.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic > > > One way to look at it, an open 40 would be anything but a comfortable > ride. Flat bottom trou

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-05 Thread Steve Thomas
.com]On Behalf Of Brent Driedger Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:38 PM To: ja...@jpiworldwide.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic One way to look at it, an open 40 would be anything but a comfortable ride. Flat bottom trough

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-04 Thread Della Barba, Joe
.@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Indigo > Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:33 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the > Atlantic > > > > Lots of very valid points - but as far as size, storage space is > con

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread Brent Driedger
> From: Jack Brennan [mailto:jackbren...@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:39 PM > To: ja...@jpiworldwide.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic > > Don't forget Webb Chiles going ar

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread Jack Brennan
c-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic Yeah, and they are better sailors than a novice or first timer... However, my very first boat was a copy of Tinkerbelle (Called Tinkerbelle 2), the 13' sloop sailed by Robert Manry. It's not a sea k

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread J.P.
Fer Sure JP -Original Message- From: Jack Brennan [mailto:jackbren...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:39 PM To: ja...@jpiworldwide.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic Don't forget Webb Chi

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread J.P.
kilo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:07 PM To: ja...@jpiworldwide.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic The Pardeys' boat is much more seakindly than a C&C. It's not just about size. Cheers Colin On

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread J.P.
Er Uh LIN and Larry Pardey JP From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of J.P. Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:49 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic And what about Lynn and Larry Parde

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread J.P.
And what about Lynn and Larry Pardey? J JP From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:33 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic Lots of very valid po

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread Indigo
down, and I am sure a 35Mk1 will cope easily with a crossing of the pond Jonathan _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 1:59 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread Colin Kilgour
gt; Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:33 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic > > > > Lots of very valid points - but as far as size, storage space is concerned, > I am reminded that Sir Robin Knox Johnsto

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread Knowles Rich
A gentleman at RNSYS in Halifax by the name of Denis Linton sailed his 1985 CC27 to Ireland in around 2000 or do. No problem except lots of headsail changes. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-09-03, at 14:59, "Della Barba, Joe" wrote: > We all know the bigger C&Cs can do this, but wh

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Reasons and methods to go across: 1. Delivery: you need the boat on the other side of the ocean. Add a liferaft and EPIRB and go. Fix anything that looks defective. This is what a paid crew would do. Pick time and route to avoid "perfect storms". The boat will remain on the other side an

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread Joel Aronson
lass 3/8 BBB gipsy and 5/16” gipsy >> >> Spare tackle 100’ of 3/8” BBB spliced in another 100’ or rhode on a 35lbs >> CQR.**** >> >> Main tackle 275’ of 5/16” BBB on a 45lbs CQR. >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> Petar Horvatic

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread Colin Kilgour
> ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck > S > *Sent:* Sunday, September 01, 2013 1:31 PM > *To:* Brent Driedger > *Cc:* cnc-list CNC boat owners > *

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread Petar Horvatic
boat owners Subject: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic Brent, I think most C&Cs are built strong enough to make an Atlantic crossing, but I would prefer a heavier, stiffer vessel like a Swan for such a task. It made me ask the question: how would I prepare my pres

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-03 Thread Gary Nylander
13 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic I wonder what Joshua Slocum would make of this conversation? He managed with very little. I've lived in St. John's and Halifax for the last 27 years and have seen scores of small boats from 8 to 40 fee

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-01 Thread Andrew Burton
One thing to emphasize, this can be a fairly easy trip. You can usually choose your weather by heading south for lighter stuff or north for heavier. I'm generalizing of course. Preparing your boat and crew for storm conditions is imperative. Antoine lists good starting points. Andrew Burton 6

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-01 Thread Andrew Burton
Not sure this came through on this thread so here goes again. Please excuse me if its a repeat. Storm boards for the windows might be a good idea, but I'd check the strength of what,s there first; our boats are pretty well engineered and it's hard to conceive that they'd leave something that im

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-01 Thread Antoine Rose
Interesting to observe that most people think about adding pieces of gear. I would put preparation under six sub topics: - Boat integrity: how do I ensure that the boat is top shape. Think about hull/deck joint, keel bolts, thru hulls, bulkheads, mast step, chainplates, rig, steering... I replace

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-01 Thread Chuck S
locum and Spray were eventually lost at sea. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ F rom: "David Risch" To: "Knowles Rich" , cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 4:09:06 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-01 Thread Colin Kilgour
You want some way to communicate long distance - either ssb or satphone, or both. You'll probably want sailmail or something similar as well. You'll need some batteries to run that autopilot 24/7 You'll need tankage for fuel. And for water unless you go with a watermaker. But if you go with a

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-01 Thread David Risch
David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 cell -Original Message- From: Knowles Rich Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 19:58:37 To: Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic I wonder what Joshua Slocum would make of this conversa

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-01 Thread Knowles Rich
I wonder what Joshua Slocum would make of this conversation? He managed with very little. I've lived in St. John's and Halifax for the last 27 years and have seen scores of small boats from 8 to 40 feet head off to Europe and other distant ports in various states of repair and equipment. A very

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-01 Thread Joel Aronson
Other items: extra battery? secure batteries with straps radar reflector radar? backup GPS emergency tiller service thru hulls wooden plugs for all through hulls check all hoses. Sat phone SSB receiver be able to secure and open cabin boards from inside and outside cabin solar? refrigeration? tool

Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-01 Thread Andrew Burton
Storm boards for the windows might be a good idea, but I'd check the strength of what,s there first; our boats are pretty well engineered and it's hard to conceive that they'd leave something that important out of the equation. Epirb is good, and I bought one for overnight sailing in New England

Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

2013-09-01 Thread Chuck S
Brent, I think most C&Cs are built strong enough to make an Atlantic crossing, but I would prefer a heavier, stiffer vessel like a Swan for such a task. It made me ask the question: how would I prepare my present boat for such a challenge? Here's a short list to start: Rehead all rod ends A