Re: Stus-List halyards

2015-05-07 Thread William Walker via CnC-List
Ditto APS. They did my halyard last year on my 36 in crystalline. I mailed them my shackle. Bill Walker Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Thursday, May 7, 2015 Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: Hi Allen, Defender sells the wire to rope halyards.  All rope halyards can work in your sheaves if they

Re: Stus-List halyards

2015-05-07 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
ot; To: "C&C List" Cc: "Josh Muckley" Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:48:40 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List halyards With the new hi-tech/low stretch lines there really aren't any cons. Rope doesn't need fancy splices, it can be cut, you can freshen up the worn

Re: Stus-List halyards

2015-05-07 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
VPC would be fine for halyards, relatively inexpensive, but is a bear to splice. You could easily go with 1/4 inch Dyneema and put covers near the shackle and where it is cleated/goes through clutch. Easy to splice, great value. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Sam Salter via

Re: Stus-List halyards

2015-05-07 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
‎I did this on my 26 about 6 years ago. Originally I just replaced the line as I didn't have the mast down. The sheaves were in okay shape and the wire / rope sheaves didn't chew up the new line. When I had the

Re: Stus-List halyards

2015-05-07 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Hi Allen, Defender sells the wire to rope halyards. All rope halyards can work in your sheaves if they are not chewed up. The choices for halyards are many, mostly driven by cost. I like Chrystalyne or V100 for Jib and main halyards. The halyards on my 36 footer are 3/8". You may be able to go

Re: Stus-List halyards

2015-05-07 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
With the new hi-tech/low stretch lines there really aren't any cons. Rope doesn't need fancy splices, it can be cut, you can freshen up the worn end at the head or flip it end for end. I considered replacing my sheeves but they weren't too badly chewed up and were a "V" shape to accommodate wire

Re: Stus-List halyards again( 10 aloft = 1 on the rail )

2013-12-05 Thread Marek Dziedzic
Neil, this cannot be. As Rick said, if the CB was below the CG, the boat would instantly turtle, at the slightest provocation (the state of equilibrium at rest (flat on the water, with the mast upright) would be inherently unstable). Btw. this is why we carry around the heavy keels (to move the

Re: Stus-List halyards again( 10 aloft = 1 on the rail )

2013-12-05 Thread Neil Gallagher
boat to offset the extra weight of halyards aloft. Now there's an idea that should make the crew happy. Rick Brass *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dr. Mark Bodnar *Sent:* Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:45 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re

Re: Stus-List halyards again( 10 aloft = 1 on the rail )

2013-12-05 Thread dwight
Worse yet, one bad tack and the beer may go overboard!!! _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott Sent: December 4, 2013 9:30 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List halyards again( 10 aloft = 1 on the rail ) Rick: I am confident I

Re: Stus-List halyards again( 10 aloft = 1 on the rail )

2013-12-03 Thread Rick Brass
make the crew happy. Rick Brass From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:45 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List halyards again( 10 aloft = 1 on the rail ) Add to that the fact that as the boat

Re: Stus-List halyards again( 10 aloft = 1 on the rail )

2013-12-03 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
he head of the mast, it would seem that it is even less of an effect. Am I missing something? -- Paul Eugenio 1979 C&C 29 mk1 S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL -•— Subject: Re:

Re: Stus-List halyards again( 10 aloft = 1 on the rail )

2013-12-02 Thread dreuge
ssing something? -- Paul Eugenio 1979 C&C 29 mk1 S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL -•— Subject: Re: Stus-List halyards again Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hi David, ... The weight aloft does make a differenceI don't remembe

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread jtsails
.com Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List halyards again Right.I never go up there except when on the hook and neither does anyone else.we carry a furling 135 and a main sail, both of them pretty good performance sails but we don't race and we don

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread jtsails
, December 02, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List halyards again I never get the wire on my hands, so I don't worry about fish hooks.you need to adjust length at the wire end to make that right.my boat was delivered with rope to wire about 40 years ago.the sheaves don't mind some

Re: Stus-List halyards again wire-to-rope

2013-12-02 Thread Mark G
he length of wire. Mark '73 C&C 25 - Original Message -From: dwight To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSent: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 21:41:12 -0000 (UTC)Subject: Re: Stus-List halyards again I never get the wire on my hands, so Idon’t worry about fish hooks…you need to adjust length at the

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread dwight
not the bow but racing I mean) I finally know where the fun really is _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jtsails Sent: December 2, 2013 7:02 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List halyards again Dwight, you obviously don't work on t

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread jtsails
2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List halyards again I never get the wire on my hands, so I don't worry about fish hooks.you need to adjust length at the wire end to make that right.my boat was delivered with rope to wire about 40 years ago.the sheaves don't mind some new wire.my l

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Dennis C.
truly believe I've saved money by doing this.Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA From: niall buckley To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, December 2, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List halyards again Hi David,I switched to spectra for both genoa halyards and the main h

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread dwight
5 years for me.I can handle that _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley Sent: December 2, 2013 1:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List halyards again Rope is lighter, DIY, easier on the hand, easier on the sheaves, rope doesn&

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread niall buckley
Hi David, I switched to spectra for both genoa halyards and the main halyard. They are expensive, they are much nicer on the hands and there is no noticeable stretch. The weight aloft does make a differenceI don't remember the numbers but 10 lbs aloft equals one man on the rail.or somethin

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Andrew Burton
Good sailmaker, Alan! Bet you wouldn't go anywhere else for a sail, now. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Dec 2, 2013, at 15:34, Alan Bergen wrote: > Many years ago, when I

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Alan Bergen
Many years ago, when I wasn't winning races with my first boat, I spoke with my sailmaker about getting a new sail. Instead of selling me a new sail, he suggested I work on my crew work, and only consider getting a new sail when I'm losing races by seconds. Dave, are you losing races by seconds?

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Joel Aronson
11:32:05 -0500 > From: Joel Aronson > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > Subject: Re: Stus-List halyards again > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > David, > > The rope is stretching over the entire 100 foot -plus l

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Josh Muckley
Rope is lighter, DIY, easier on the hand, easier on the sheaves, rope doesn't get fish hooks and won't chew on the other lines as bad. Often times the rope will float depending on the material and may be hydrophobic. You can also flip rope end for end when it starts to get worn or simply freshen

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Marek Dziedzic
) __ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 11:32:05 -0500 From: Joel Aronson To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List halyards again Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" David, The rope is stretching over

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Joel Aronson
David, The rope is stretching over the entire 100 foot -plus length. Halyard tension should be adjusted during a race - less downwind, more upwind. You would need to check the sheaves to see if they were changed. Rope compatible sheaves are more V shaped. Rope is more of a DIY project unless you

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread dwight veinot
David I agree with you on that rational for using wire to rope halyards...I use all wire to rope except for the spinn halyards Dwight Veinot Alianna C&C 35 MKII Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:58 AM, David Knecht wrote: > I was thinking about the recent discussions of n

Re: Stus-List halyards again

2013-12-02 Thread Hoyt, Mike
David Have your ruled out slippage of the halyards in the clutches? We have this problem on a number of boats on which I sail. Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 11:58 AM To: Cn

Re: Stus-List Halyards moved to keel

2013-10-22 Thread j...@svpaws.net
You might want to have a chat with the folks at Mars Metals. They may have a more modern take on the keel design if you want to go deep. Cost vs. someone's old castaway keel is a different animal of course. John Sent from my iPad > On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:31 PM, niall buckley wrote: > > Hel

Re: Stus-List Halyards

2013-10-22 Thread niall buckley
Hello Harold, I'm new to this Group so, don't know the format exactly. I changed to high tech lines on all my halyards over the past few years. My perceived advantages are as follows: less weight aloft (considerable, maybe equivalent to a man on the rail), much nicer on the hands if you need to ha

Re: Stus-List Halyards

2013-10-22 Thread Jake Brodersen
Harold, I swapped halyards to all rope because I race and the old ones were getting a bit ratty. Those wire halyards weigh a lot more than you think. Can I feel the difference? Not sure, but I know I had a positive effect on stability. Less weight aloft. The wire/rope sheaves are OK for al

Re: Stus-List Halyards - now 35-3 FK vs K/CB

2013-10-22 Thread Dennis C.
Rate the same?  H. Only one 35-3 in my PHRF area (a FK) now but when there were both versions, they were rated differently.  My 35-1 owed the K/CB but the 35-3 FK owed me.  Don't recall the differentials. Remember we usually held our time on the FK version both buoy and distance racing.  T

Re: Stus-List Halyards

2013-10-22 Thread Joel Aronson
Harold, I switched to all rope (VPC) using the same sheaves with no issues over 2 seasons. If weight were an issue I would go with Dyneema with a cover for the clutch. The PHRF ratings are the same for the 2 models. I've never sailed against a c/b model. (I need to race Chef Dave next year!) I