Ditto APS. They did my halyard last year on my 36 in crystalline. I mailed
them my shackle.
Bill Walker
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On Thursday, May 7, 2015 Chuck S via CnC-List wrote:
Hi Allen,
Defender sells the wire to rope halyards. All rope halyards can work in your
sheaves if they
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With the new hi-tech/low stretch lines there really aren't any cons. Rope
doesn't need fancy splices, it can be cut, you can freshen up the worn
VPC would be fine for halyards, relatively inexpensive, but is a bear to
splice. You could easily go with 1/4 inch Dyneema and put covers near the
shackle and where it is cleated/goes through clutch. Easy to splice, great
value.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Sam Salter via
âI did this on my 26 about 6 years ago. Originally I just replaced the line as I didn't have the mast down. The sheaves were in okay shape and the wire / rope sheaves didn't chew up the new line. When I had the
Hi Allen,
Defender sells the wire to rope halyards. All rope halyards can work in your
sheaves if they are not chewed up. The choices for halyards are many, mostly
driven by cost. I like Chrystalyne or V100 for Jib and main halyards. The
halyards on my 36 footer are 3/8". You may be able to go
With the new hi-tech/low stretch lines there really aren't any cons. Rope
doesn't need fancy splices, it can be cut, you can freshen up the worn end
at the head or flip it end for end. I considered replacing my sheeves but
they weren't too badly chewed up and were a "V" shape to accommodate wire
Neil,
this cannot be. As Rick said, if the CB was below the CG, the boat would
instantly turtle, at the slightest provocation (the state of equilibrium at
rest (flat on the water, with the mast upright) would be inherently unstable).
Btw. this is why we carry around the heavy keels (to move the
boat to offset the
extra weight of halyards aloft. Now there's an idea that should make
the crew happy.
Rick Brass
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Worse yet, one bad tack and the beer may go overboard!!!
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Rick:
I am confident I
make the crew happy.
Rick Brass
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Add to that the fact that as the boat
he head of
the mast, it would seem that it is even less of an effect.
Am I missing something?
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Paul Eugenio
1979 C&C 29 mk1
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL
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ssing something?
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Carrabelle, FL
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Hi David,
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The weight aloft does make a differenceI
don't remembe
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Right.I never go up there except when on the hook and neither does anyone
else.we carry a furling 135 and a main sail, both of them pretty good
performance sails but we don't race and we don
, December 02, 2013 4:41 PM
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I never get the wire on my hands, so I don't worry about fish hooks.you need
to adjust length at the wire end to make that right.my boat was delivered with
rope to wire about 40 years ago.the sheaves don't mind some
he length of wire.
Mark
'73 C&C 25
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Stus-List halyards again
I never get the wire on my hands, so Idon’t worry about fish
hooks…you need to adjust length at the
not the bow
but racing I mean) I finally know where the fun really is
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Dwight, you obviously don't work on t
2013 4:41 PM
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I never get the wire on my hands, so I don't worry about fish hooks.you need
to adjust length at the wire end to make that right.my boat was delivered with
rope to wire about 40 years ago.the sheaves don't mind some new wire.my l
truly believe I've saved money by doing this.Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA
From: niall buckley To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, December 2, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List halyards again Hi David,I switched to spectra for both genoa halyards and the main h
5
years for me.I can handle that
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Muckley
Sent: December 2, 2013 1:44 PM
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Rope is lighter, DIY, easier on the hand, easier on the sheaves, rope
doesn&
Hi David,
I switched to spectra for both genoa halyards and the main halyard.
They are expensive, they are much nicer on the hands and there is
no noticeable stretch. The weight aloft does make a differenceI
don't remember the numbers but 10 lbs aloft equals one man on the
rail.or somethin
Good sailmaker, Alan! Bet you wouldn't go anywhere else for a sail, now.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
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Newport, RI
USA02840
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On Dec 2, 2013, at 15:34, Alan Bergen wrote:
> Many years ago, when I
Many years ago, when I wasn't winning races with my first boat, I spoke with my
sailmaker about getting a new sail. Instead of selling me a new sail, he
suggested I work on my crew work, and only consider getting a new sail when I'm
losing races by seconds. Dave, are you losing races by seconds?
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> David,
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> The rope is stretching over the entire 100 foot -plus l
Rope is lighter, DIY, easier on the hand, easier on the sheaves, rope
doesn't get fish hooks and won't chew on the other lines as bad. Often
times the rope will float depending on the material and may be hydrophobic.
You can also flip rope end for end when it starts to get worn or simply
freshen
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David,
The rope is stretching over
David,
The rope is stretching over the entire 100 foot -plus length.
Halyard tension should be adjusted during a race - less downwind, more
upwind.
You would need to check the sheaves to see if they were changed. Rope
compatible sheaves are more V shaped.
Rope is more of a DIY project unless you
David
I agree with you on that rational for using wire to rope halyards...I use
all wire to rope except for the spinn halyards
Dwight Veinot
Alianna
C&C 35 MKII
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:58 AM, David Knecht wrote:
> I was thinking about the recent discussions of n
David
Have your ruled out slippage of the halyards in the clutches? We have
this problem on a number of boats on which I sail.
Mike
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Knecht
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 11:58 AM
To: Cn
You might want to have a chat with the folks at Mars Metals. They may have a
more modern take on the keel design if you want to go deep. Cost vs. someone's
old castaway keel is a different animal of course.
John
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> On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:31 PM, niall buckley wrote:
>
> Hel
Hello Harold,
I'm new to this Group so, don't know the format exactly.
I changed to high tech lines on all my halyards over the past few years.
My perceived advantages are as follows: less weight aloft (considerable,
maybe equivalent to a man on the rail),
much nicer on the hands if you need to ha
Harold,
I swapped halyards to all rope because I race and the old ones were getting
a bit ratty. Those wire halyards weigh a lot more than you think. Can I
feel the difference? Not sure, but I know I had a positive effect on
stability. Less weight aloft. The wire/rope sheaves are OK for al
Rate the same? H.
Only one 35-3 in my PHRF area (a FK) now but when there were both versions,
they were rated differently. My 35-1 owed the K/CB but the 35-3 FK owed me.
Don't recall the differentials.
Remember we usually held our time on the FK version both buoy and distance
racing. T
Harold,
I switched to all rope (VPC) using the same sheaves with no issues over 2
seasons. If weight were an issue I would go with Dyneema with a cover for
the clutch.
The PHRF ratings are the same for the 2 models. I've never sailed against
a c/b model. (I need to race Chef Dave next year!) I
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