Re: Stus-List Help needed C&C 44

2019-06-03 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
FWIW, my 42 Custom is ZCC built in the NOL (Bruckmann) plant in 1976. My 34 was also ZCC built in NOL in 1978. From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 3:08 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Re: Stus-List Help needed C&C 44 This seems backw

Re: Stus-List Help needed C&C 44

2019-06-03 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Yes, apparently that is what happened. Until there was a Rhode Island Plant the Manufacturer's code (MIC) for C&C Yachts was CCY. Once C&C started manufacturing in the USA the CCY designation was moved to the US plant and Canada got a new code, ZCC. I read that somewhere in the past, but I don't

Re: Stus-List Help needed C&C 44

2019-06-03 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
This seems backwards, Mine is a CCY built in NOL, they didn't even have a Rhode Island Plant back then. Regards, Bill Coleman Ex C&C39 Erie From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 9:02 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list

Re: Stus-List Help needed C&C 44

2019-06-02 Thread robert via CnC-List
Patrick: In all likelihood, the 1988 C&C 44 you are looking at was built in Niagara on the Lake, Ont. Canada. The Middleton, Rhode Island plant closed in November 1985. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%26C_Yachts Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. Hello, I'm in the proces

Re: Stus-List Help needed C&C 44

2019-06-02 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
If it helps, The U.S. Coast Guard's Boating Safety Division, From here: https://www.uscgboating.org/content/manufacturers-identification.php ZCC = https://www.uscgboating.org/content/manufacturers-identification-detail.php?id=31723 CCY = https://www.uscgboating.org/content/manufacturers-identific

Re: Stus-List Help needed C&C 44

2019-06-02 Thread randal johnston via CnC-List
And this should explain the build location based on HIN. CCY is the Rhode Island plant ZCC is the Niagara on the Lake plant. randy Tamanawas 29-2 Hood River, OR > On Jun 2, 2019, at 3:34 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List > wro

Re: Stus-List Help needed C&C 44

2019-06-02 Thread Patrick Gateley via CnC-List
Hi Chuck, Thanks for the quick response. The customs broker claims the HIN just states the manufacturer and not actual place of origin. I personally think they're being a bit too onery about all this. I'm hoping for a manual or brochure that says something like "proudly built in Canada/US" -Pa

Re: Stus-List Help needed C&C 44

2019-06-02 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
The HIN identifies place of origin. Is there no HIN stamped into the transom? The HIN will also be on your title and documentation. Chuck S > On June 2, 2019 at 6:13 PM Patrick Gateley via CnC-List > wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm in the process of purchasing a 1988 C&C 44 and my customs

Re: Stus-List Help

2019-04-01 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
From: CnC-List on behalf of Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 12:06:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Subject: Re: Stus-List Help That’s a lot of boat for $15,500. I noticed it has the old style windows. They can be be replaced with Lewmar

Re: Stus-List Help

2019-04-01 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
: Stus-List Help Bruce, You can get some useful info from the NADA Guides. For example, a 1980 C&C 36/SL has a base average value of $28,900. But this was without any options selected (i.e. canvas, electronics, …) See the NADA website: https://www.nadaguides.com/Boats/Manufacturers -

Re: Stus-List Help

2019-04-01 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
Bruce, You can get some useful info from the NADA Guides. For example, a 1980 C&C 36/SL has a base average value of $28,900. But this was without any options selected (i.e. canvas, electronics, …) See the NADA website: https://www.nadaguides.com/Boats/Manufacturers - Paul E. 1981 C&C L

Re: Stus-List Help

2019-04-01 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
CnC-List Cc: Neil Gallagher Subject: Re: Stus-List Help Not sure where you're located, but here's a 36. https://longisland.craigslist.org/boa/d/stamford-cc-36-boat-for-sale-1978/6849185510.html Neil Gallagher Weatherly, 35-1 Glen Cove, NY On 4/1/2019 10:33 AM, Bruce Roland vi

Re: Stus-List Help

2019-04-01 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
Not sure where you're located, but here's a 36. https://longisland.craigslist.org/boa/d/stamford-cc-36-boat-for-sale-1978/6849185510.html Neil Gallagher Weatherly, 35-1 Glen Cove, NY On 4/1/2019 10:33 AM, Bruce Roland via CnC-List wrote: I am interested in finding out just a ball park figu

Re: Stus-List Help

2019-04-01 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Bruce, Trying to assess a “replacement” figure on your 36 is purely market and condition driven. You can find C&C 36s in sailable condition on Yachtworld ranging in price from $15-60K depending on year, model, and how well they’re outfitted. If your insurance company has yet to make a settle

Re: Stus-List Help

2019-04-01 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Terribly sorry for your loss. The repair cost is beyond justification. Replacement boats can be readily found in a wide range of conditions and prices but $50k to $75k is probably in the ballpark. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mon, Apr 1, 2019, 10:34 AM Bruce Roland vi

Re: Stus-List Help on installing accumulator tank on 33-2

2018-06-15 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Doug - I have no accumulator tank and the water does not spurt... Dave Windstar 33-2 Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Doug Welch wrote: > > Thanks. Replacing all water lines on my list but probably a winter job. Under > my galley sink there is a line that draws from the

Re: Stus-List Help on installing accumulator tank on 33-2

2018-06-15 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
Thanks. Replacing all water lines on my list but probably a winter job. Under my galley sink there is a line that draws from the tank and runs through a strainer. Is that the suction strainer you are referring to? There is also some tees and valves. One valve seems to control water coming from t

Re: Stus-List Help on installing accumulator tank on 33-2

2018-06-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The accumulator probably won't stop the spurting. Air is most likely being sucked in to the system. A probable cause is the suction strainer. The accumulator is used to even out the pressure and minimize pump cycles. The hot water tank often has a check valve on the cold water inlet which would

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-20 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Sorry This should have read RH16DX14P-3 Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:06 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights? Hi Rick I have a 10

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-19 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
Francois, It’s great to hear that someone else has had good experience with the Martec prop. I’m happy with mine. I will be sending it in for the first rebuild. I’ve owned the boat for 18 years and this is the first time it will be needed. Of course, in those 18 years I’ve only logged 80

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-19 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
: Saturday, February 17, 2018 1:17 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass Subject: Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights? Bruce; My 38, Imzadi, came with a 16x10 ½ RH Martec prop when I bought her in 2003. 16x10 ½ was the prop recommended for my 15,000lb boat with a 36hp engine and

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-18 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Rodney is correct, of course. But also consider that some C&C models come with different gear ratios for the same boat. Get the ratio off the gearbox name plate before ordering a prop. My PO didn't do that and I got a boat with the wrong prop. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C&C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, U

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-18 Thread Rodney Meryweather via CnC-List
The engine and gear ratio, together with the engine power, are critical for any propeller sizing. When choosing an engine &/or propeller for your boat, it is important to consider the effect of the gearbox ratio on the propeller. Most marine diesel engines have a reduction gearbox, which makes t

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-16 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Bruce; My 38, Imzadi, came with a 16x10 ½ RH Martec prop when I bought her in 2003. 16x10 ½ was the prop recommended for my 15,000lb boat with a 36hp engine and whatever gear reduction I have. I was quite pleased with the performance. It would get hull speed (about 7.2 kn) at 2400 RPM and reach

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-16 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
My two cents, I had the Martec Folding Eliptic on our boat from 2002 to 2007. I had a few close calls when it wouldn't open. These may have been my inexperience with a large boat. It seemed like I needed to put it in reverse at four boat lengths from the dock to get it to stop reliably in my sl

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-16 Thread john sandford via CnC-List
Tremblay [mailto:tremblay.pie...@yahoo.ca] Sent: February-16-18 2:25 PM To: C&C List Subject: Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights? I also have the original Martec Eliptic on my 38-3. No vibration, hull speed at 2400 RPM, and in reverse, you have to think ahead. To align the b

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-16 Thread Pierre Tremblay via CnC-List
I also have the original Martec Eliptic on my 38-3. No vibration, hull speed at 2400 RPM, and in reverse, you have to think ahead.  To align the blade, I installed a cheap fleabay car backup camera connected to the video input of my chartplotter (Zeus Touch). With paint mark on the tranny and cu

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-16 Thread Bruce via CnC-List
uary 16, 2018 11:52 AM To: C&C List Cc: Gary Russell Subject: Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights? I have to provide the dissenting opinion on the Martec prop. Many years ago, I had to make a quick stop when two kids in a dinghy came out of a mooring field in front of me. In o

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-16 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
I have to provide the dissenting opinion on the Martec prop. Many years ago, I had to make a quick stop when two kids in a dinghy came out of a mooring field in front of me. In order not to hit them I slammed the boat in reverse. Being not geared, one of the blades did not open. The resulting

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-16 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
My LF38 came with a 2 blade Martec Eliptec (LH18DX14P-3 1-1/8), and I agree with others that the performance is surprising good. Yes I often forget/neglect to align the blades, and I have experienced the boat shake on a rare occasions. Performance wise, forward to hull speed is no problem in

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-16 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
knows what I’m talking about. Overall, I’m pleased with this upgrade. From: Dave Godwin via CnC-List Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 7:08 AM To: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List Cc: Dave Godwin Subject: Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights? Bruce, For reasons that have been lost in distant

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-16 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:02 PM > To: CnClist mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>> > Sub

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis > C. via CnC-List > *Sent:* Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:02 PM > *To:* CnClist > *Cc:* Dennis C. > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights? > > > > Bruce, > > > > You'r

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-15 Thread Bruce via CnC-List
: Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights? Bruce, You're not going to get a lot of positive comments about Martec props on this list. You'll get a lot of suggestions about this prop and that prop. Having said that, I have a Martec Elliptical on Touche'. Wh

Re: Stus-List Help with folding prop insights?

2018-02-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Bruce, You're not going to get a lot of positive comments about Martec props on this list. You'll get a lot of suggestions about this prop and that prop. Having said that, I have a Martec Elliptical on Touche'. While it might not be everyone's favorite, I don't have any problems with it. Sure,

Re: Stus-List HELP

2016-09-19 Thread Jim Lynch via CnC-List
Hello, I didn't use a password to sign up because I thought it was optional. But now I can't sign in to change my subscription status. I don't want to receive more than one email a day summarizing what was discussed. If it's all or nothing, I will opt for nothing and unsubscribe. Thank you v

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat - now 33'

2016-08-09 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Hear you Josh. The Tartan boats are nice - just don’t have the level of woodwork of the original. John > On Aug 9, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List > wrote: > > Did you say 121? I don't NEED a 121 but I also don't need a new wife... > Doesn't mean I don't like to look. > > Josh

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat - now 33'

2016-08-09 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Did you say 121? I don't NEED a 121 but I also don't need a new wife... Doesn't mean I don't like to look. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Aug 9, 2016 7:50 PM, "John Pennie via CnC-List" wrote: > Ok, forget what I said. The 33’ is just too damned pretty. Let me know >

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat - now 33'

2016-08-09 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Ok, forget what I said. The 33’ is just too damned pretty. Let me know if anyone knows of a centerboard version somewhere near the east coast. I see the one in Buffalo. Also, if anyone is interested in a 121… John > > - Original Message - > From: "John Pennie via CnC-List"

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

2016-08-09 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
good (relatively speaking) for the crew of 6 and had good cooking facilities.Boat flies in a close/beam reach.Ron From: S Thomas via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: S Thomas Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat C&C27 mark

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

2016-08-09 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
heriC&C 30-1STL From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Gilchrest Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 9:13 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat Mk V C&C 27.  Ticks all the boxes and puts money back in your pocket. My friend Bill Dingwe

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

2016-08-09 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
hat may be for sale at end of season. Very nice condition with Yanmar 1G > diesel. Jerry J&J > > > > -Original Message- > From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List > To: cnc-list > Cc: Chuck Gilchrest > Sent: Mon, Aug 8, 2016 10:14 pm > Subject: Re: Stus-Li

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

2016-08-09 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <mailto:csgilchr...@comcast.net>> Sent: Mon, Aug 8, 2016 10:14 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat Mk V C&C 27. Ticks all the boxes and puts money back in your pocket. My friend Bill Dingwell bought one aft

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

2016-08-09 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
Sent: Mon, Aug 8, 2016 10:14 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat Mk V C&C 27. Ticks all the boxes and puts money back in your pocket.My friend Bill Dingwell bought one after selling his C&C 40 and still kicks butt in local PHRF on Buzzards Bay.Chuck GilchrestPadanaram, MAS

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

2016-08-08 Thread S Thomas via CnC-List
C&C27 mark I to IV all have 4.5 foot draft, but the mark 1 and II will be better for PHRF racing if not light air and only double handed. The mark III and IV versions are faster in light air but more tender and require rail meat to work best when the wind picks up. All versions are seaworthy, ea

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

2016-08-08 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Mk V C&C 27. Ticks all the boxes and puts money back in your pocket. My friend Bill Dingwell bought one after selling his C&C 40 and still kicks butt in local PHRF on Buzzards Bay. Chuck Gilchrest Padanaram, MA Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2016, at 8:09 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List > wrote

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

2016-08-08 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/Islander-28-2799836/TX/United-States#.V6k0xscnuq0 > > Cheers, > Randy > > From: "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" > To: "cnc-list" > Cc: "Lorne Serpa" > Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:48:14 PM > Subje

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

2016-08-08 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
Message - From: "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" To: "cnc-list" Cc: "Lorne Serpa" Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:48:14 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat For 25K, that is, sorry not free. On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Lorne Serpa < lorne.s

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

2016-08-08 Thread Lorne Serpa via CnC-List
For 25K, that is, sorry not free. On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Lorne Serpa wrote: > You can have my 1988 MkII in Jan/Feb. It's a 30' and in great shape, > works great for racing (proven winner) and I currently live on it, fridge, > hatch AC, very very good shape! Have to wait though as it's

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

2016-08-08 Thread Lorne Serpa via CnC-List
You can have my 1988 MkII in Jan/Feb. It's a 30' and in great shape, works great for racing (proven winner) and I currently live on it, fridge, hatch AC, very very good shape! Have to wait though as it's my house. Lots of extra sails, way too many recent things to mention. ​

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

2016-08-08 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Good boat, but can’t do it Fred. You know me and Sabre just don’t get along. Would love a 33 mkIi centerboard but a bit bigger and a bit pricier than I’m thinking right now John > On Aug 8, 2016, at 8:19 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List > wrote: > > How about a Sabre 28? > > http://www.y

Re: Stus-List Help me pick next boat

2016-08-08 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
How about a Sabre 28? http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/Sabre-28-2984425/Erie/PA/United-States#.V6khP2Xiucw Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > On Aug 8, 2016, at 7:09 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List > wrote: > > Ok, so situations change and the boa

Re: Stus-List Help needed from Annapolis area sailors

2015-11-07 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
C-List Della Barba" To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Cc: "Joe Della Barba" Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 11:54:52 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Help needed from Annapolis area sailors I just called them about lifelines and they are there. You can call right now. Joe Coqu

Re: Stus-List Help needed from Annapolis area sailors

2015-11-06 Thread Steve Sharkey via CnC-List
-list.com Cc: Neil Andersen Subject: Re: Stus-List Help needed from Annapolis area sailors Yes to both, he just isn’t returning my calls or emails. This seems very unusual for Jay and his operation. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent

Re: Stus-List Help needed from Annapolis area sailors

2015-11-06 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Help needed from Annapolis area sailors Neil, How depressing! I might be able to make it middle of next week. (No Saturday hours this time of year) I trust you have tried j...@anapolisrigging.com or (410)269-8035? Joel On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Neil

Re: Stus-List Help needed from Annapolis area sailors

2015-11-06 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
ubject: Re: Stus-List Help needed from Annapolis area sailors ? I go to Annapolis frequently, but I am not sure what exactly is going on here. Annapolis rigging has your mast and will not answer the phone? Their contact info is: (410)269-8035 (410) 216-9099 fax www.annapolisriggin

Re: Stus-List Help needed from Annapolis area sailors

2015-11-06 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
? I go to Annapolis frequently, but I am not sure what exactly is going on here. Annapolis rigging has your mast and will not answer the phone? Their contact info is: (410)269-8035 (410) 216-9099 fax www.annapolisrigging.com j...@annapolisrigging.com If you c

Re: Stus-List Help needed from Annapolis area sailors

2015-11-06 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Neil, How depressing! I might be able to make it middle of next week. (No Saturday hours this time of year) I trust you have tried j...@anapolisrigging.com or (410)269-8035? Joel On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Neil Andersen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > My friends and fellow

Re: Stus-List Help? on the scrounge!!

2015-06-09 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Jonathan, I have an old 150 for my C&C 37+ — you’ll probably have to get it cut to fit your boat. I, P, J and all that can be found here: http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5997 Has, I believe, #6 luff tape on it. Sitting (

Re: Stus-List Help? on the scrounge!!

2015-06-09 Thread Chuck Borge via CnC-List
Hi Jonathon, I have an old 135% for my C&C 34 that has not seen daylight in a few years at least. It would be a short hoist for your boat, I think your I/J= 46.3'/13.6 and the 34 is 44'/14'. If none of the 35 guys can help, and you are in a pinch, let me know. I'm just about 20 minutes east of Pr

Re: Stus-List Help (volume 2) Terrible Ordeal really

2014-07-12 Thread coltrek via CnC-List
I would say so! Wild Bill Original message From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List Date:07/12/2014 1:04 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Wally Bryant , cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Help (volume 2) Terrible Ordeal really Perhaps I should revise my comment about mental health

Re: Stus-List Help (volume 2) Terrible Ordeal really

2014-07-12 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Perhaps I should revise my comment about mental health :) Andy C&C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Jul 12, 2014, at 12:48, Wally Bryant via CnC-List > wrote: > > We had atypicalli

Re: Stus-List help

2014-05-15 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Us Niagara 26 owners never go away even when our boats change . From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Graham Collins via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:33 PM To: Frederick G Street; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List help I know Dan, he

Re: Stus-List help

2014-05-14 Thread Graham Collins via CnC-List
I know Dan, he is very dapper. And his writing of the log while commodore was first rate... so I guess Rich is correct. Welcome aboard Dan, wasn't sure your intentions when you sold the Niagara... Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2014-05-14 5:00 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-Li

Re: Stus-List help on subscription

2014-05-14 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
emails. Marek From: Rich Knowles via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 3:40 PM To: Dan Sargeant ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List help Dan. Go to the cncphotoalbum site, unsubscribe an dressy scribe to your new address. Rich On May 14, 2014, at 16:28, Dan Sargeant via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List help

2014-05-14 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Rich — did you just call Dan a “dressy scribe”?! :^) Go to http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com and follow the instructions for changing your email address; or unsubscribe and *re-subscribe* with the new email address. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Lan

Re: Stus-List help

2014-05-14 Thread Rich Knowles via CnC-List
Dan. Go to the cncphotoalbum site, unsubscribe an dressy scribe to your new address. Rich > On May 14, 2014, at 16:28, Dan Sargeant via CnC-List > wrote: > > > (Not sure I’m doing this properly but here goes... (No that’s not me > yelling earlier!) > > I would like to change my desti

Re: Stus-List help

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Bina via CnC-List
Go to the cncphotoalbum.com website at the link provided at the bottom of every list email. Click on the big "SUBSCRIBE" link on the main page. It will take you to a page with all options for changing info, or unsubscribing. You should be able to figure it out from there. Bill Bina On 5/14/20

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread Jim Watts
Depends on the water temperature and the state of undress of the participants. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 1 March 2014 20:32, Rich Knowles wrote: > All I know is; people on the inside, water on the outside. Works for me. > > Rich > > On Mar 1, 2014, at 22:52, Denni

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread Rich Knowles
All I know is; people on the inside, water on the outside. Works for me. Rich > On Mar 1, 2014, at 22:52, Dennis Cheuvront wrote: > > John, > > For more info, go here: > > Lots of info on resin infusion, fiberglass fabric, roving, mat, an

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread Dennis Cheuvront
John, For more info, go here: Lots of info on resin infusion, fiberglass fabric, roving, mat, and lots of stuff you don't want to know about. Articles and videos. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 7:16 PM, j..

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread sam . c . salter
ot;H" beam keeps the outer flanges apart - where most of the stiffness resides. sam :-) C&C 26 Liquorice  Ghost Lake Alberta    Original Message   From: j...@svpaws.net Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 6:24 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread j...@svpaws.net
Got it - thanks John Sent from my iPad > On Mar 1, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Graham Collins wrote: > > Vacuum bagging clamps everything and draws out air bubbles, gives a more > consistent result with less resin. Resin infusion is vacuum bagging on > steroids, you pull a vacuum and you inject resi

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread Graham Collins
Vacuum bagging clamps everything and draws out air bubbles, gives a more consistent result with less resin. Resin infusion is vacuum bagging on steroids, you pull a vacuum and you inject resin at pre-set points, the resin is drawn in with great control - so even less material, better results.

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread Ken Heaton
As I understand it, yes. The resin has strength but yields more that the reinforcement. When a load is applied to a composite, the resin stretches enough (while the reinforcement stretched less for the same load) to shift all the load onto the glass or carbon or kevlar. The resin just holds it a

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread j...@svpaws.net
yes, clearly balsa would rot when wet where as the core cell would not. Presumably the latter would just delaminate much like a blister? Is the advantage of the foam core that any moisture intrusion would be more localized? Is there a weight and/or cost benefit? I would guess the balsa would

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread j...@svpaws.net
So vacuum bagging essentially draws the resin into the substrate as opposed to just letting it sink in? I could see how that would be more precise and require less resin. On that note, resin adds minimal strength but bonds ? All questions. John Sent from my iPad > On Mar 1, 2014, at 3:25 P

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread j...@svpaws.net
Thanks - was confusing the terms mat and roving. Wish the book was still in print - will need to find a copy. John Sent from my iPad > On Mar 1, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Jim Watts wrote: > > Glass mat and chopped strand are the same thing...CSM. The 34+ was probably a > layup of CSM, woven roving

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread Ken Heaton
Oops, make that 1.5 oz where ever I said 1 oz. I think the changes in materials over the years makes less of a difference that what Graham said, "From hand layup, to vacuum bagging, to resin infusion and/or pre-preg." Reducing the amount of resin using these techniques results in a hull that is j

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread Ken Heaton
The schedule for the 1990 37+ Below the waterline the layup was one layer 1 oz. chop, one layer 1 oz. mat and one layer of C77K/200 Kevlar Fabmat (a blend of fibreglass and kevlar 49) outside the balsa and one layer of C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat inside. This Fabmat is much heavier than the 1 oz. chop

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread Graham Collins
From hand layup, to vacuum bagging, to resin infusion and/or pre-preg. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2014-03-01 4:25 PM, Chuck S wrote: You sound on track, though you should start with a solid fiberglass hull like the 1961 Alberg 35. Surprised the spec shows only 12600# displa

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread dwight
Balsa core rots when it gets wet but it is quite strong on end if ebcapsutaed but a solid surface like a several layers of glass matt in cured polyester or other resin...aligned E glass fibers used with knowledge of where the stresses are highest offer more tensile strength than chopped strand and

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread Chuck S
You sound on track, though you should start with a solid fiberglass hull like the 1961 Alberg 35. Surprised the spec shows only 12600# displacement. Checking the brochure info, the 1990 34+ used "biaxial fiberglass/kevlar hybrid laminate with (waterproof) Hydrex isothalic NGP resin w aircraft q

Re: Stus-List Help understanding composites

2014-03-01 Thread Jim Watts
Glass mat and chopped strand are the same thing...CSM. The 34+ was probably a layup of CSM, woven roving, and kevlar in a vinylester matrix with balsa core. E glass is the same basis as woven roving, just a different weave. Cloth is a lighter version of roving. The woven roving in the 34+ and the 1

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-03-01 Thread Joel Aronson
A Bene 36.7. On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Rick Brass wrote: > So who won? > > > > *From:* CnC-List > [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] > *On Behalf Of *Joel Aronson > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:04 AM > *To:* > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subj

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-03-01 Thread Rick Brass
So who won? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:04 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail! Here is the FB link: <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=730860123615

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread Joel Aronson
You need > more FB friends (;-) > > Marek > -- > > Message: 7 > > Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:58:26 -0500 > From: "Steve Sharkey" < > stevebshar...@gmail.com> > To: > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail! &

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread Marek Dziedzic
ubject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail! Message-ID: <033DFF523901407FB6CB74B078A98DE1@Familykitchen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I?m going to jump on the opportunity to note that I?ll also be racing and am one of the 13 entered. I would love to also get your vot

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread Steve Sharkey
Yes, that's correct since it makes you log in to "like" somebody. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Della Barba, Joe wrote: > It seems like you need to be a Facebook user to vote L > > > > *Joe Della Barba* > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Ph

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread Steve Sharkey
4 AM, Danny Haughey wrote: >> >>> I Found Steve's name but not Joel... >>> >>> Hey! another "juno" email address! >>> >>> >>> -- Original Message -- >>> From: "airdale...@juno.com" >>&

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread Steve Sharkey
Wne to the site and do not see any. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Steve Sharkey" > To: > Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail! > Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:58:26 -0500 > > I'm going to jump on the opportunity to note th

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread Della Barba, Joe
It seems like you need to be a Facebook user to vote :( Joe Della Barba ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread Joel Aronson
nny Haughey wrote: >> >>> I Found Steve's name but not Joel... >>> >>> Hey! another "juno" email address! >>> >>> >>> -- Original Message -- >>> From: "airdale...@juno.com" >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread Stevan Plavsa
> -- Original Message -- >> From: "airdale...@juno.com" >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail! >> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:34:39 GMT >> >> Steve, apparently we are only to vote once, howe

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread Joel Aronson
;s name but not Joel... > > Hey! another "juno" email address! > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "airdale...@juno.com" > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail! > Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:34:39 GM

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread Danny Haughey
I Found Steve's name but not Joel... Hey! another "juno" email address! -- Original Message -- From: "airdale...@juno.com" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail! Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:34:39 GMT Steve, apparently

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread airdale...@juno.com
Steve, apparently we are only to vote once, however, where is the list to find your name? Wne to the site and do not see any. -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Sharkey" To: Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail! Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:58:26 -0500 I’

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Steve > > *From:* Dave Godwin > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:00 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail! > > Sooo, there I was, in Facebook, all ready to vote for Joel and then I > notice that there's another local C&

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread Steve Sharkey
Unfortunately the information that they provided says that there’s only one-vote per person. I would much prefer the vote early and often approach! Steve From: Dave Godwin Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail

Re: Stus-List Help me win a free sail!

2014-02-26 Thread Joel Aronson
Let's get a couple more C&C entries and we can have our own trophy! Joel On Wednesday, February 26, 2014, Dave Godwin wrote: > Sooo, there I was, in Facebook, all ready to vote for Joel and then I > notice that there's another local C&C in the race. A nice looking 37 no > less! > > Now I have a

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