Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread RAYMOND SHIBE
Gary, Never mind I answered my own question on Google. I agree the Robertson as I see them might be a better choice. Ray Shibe On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 01:40 AM, RAYMOND SHIBE wrote: Gary, Won't the Robertson screws need to be counter sunk? I'm not sure I know exactly what they are. Ray Shib

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread RAYMOND SHIBE
Gary, Won't the Robertson screws need to be counter sunk? I'm not sure I know exactly what they are. Ray Shibe On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 03:20 PM, Gary Nylander wrote: As most screws get 'screwed' up - no pun intended' , I would vote for the Robertson head screws in stainless, and an electric

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread RAYMOND SHIBE
Dennis, Now take that new hair dryer and connect it to your car battery to see how it works. My situation is somewhat different but we had a 12 v coffee maker. 45 minutes to make coffee. We now use a Sea Cook propane stove in the cockpit, 10 minutes to perc a pot and better coffee.. Ray Shibe

Re: Stus-List Flexible Solar panels

2014-03-26 Thread RAYMOND SHIBE
Richard I purchased (2) Honda 2000i generators at the Annapolis  Show 2013. Price was less than $2,000. Shipping to New Jersey was $25.00 I think. Having priced them elsewhere I thought it was a good deal. The two units can be interconnected which will produce close to 4 kw. Ray Shibe On Wed

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread dwight
Good ears Jim, long row too…aren’t you on the west coast? I will definitely keep my eyes peeled for Paradigm Shift whenever I use that generator on board which is not all that often. :-) _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts Sent: March 27

Re: Stus-List Flexible Solar panels

2014-03-26 Thread dwight
Richard I got mine from Pro Cycle in Dartmouth NS and I paid about $1500 tax included 3 years ago. Not sure what they cost now but I thought that price was good at the time. Went there to get parts for my bike and came home with a generator and no parts.that is just the crazy way I shop somet

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Jim Watts
You might not hear it much, but I will hear it very well and I will row over and push it overboard. Preferably after making sure you are holding the dryer. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 26 March 2014 17:20, dwight wrote: > Looking good is very important, no matter

Re: Stus-List Nightmare winter

2014-03-26 Thread Paul Baker
Yeah, it's been a nightmare winter out this way too. There have been a few weekends with not enough wind to bother going sailing. Paul Orange Crush 27MkII, Sidney, BC On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:41 PM, M Bod wrote: Yesterday I met a young guy at my Mirage 24 - he's very interested in buying. I l

Re: Stus-List Nightmare winter

2014-03-26 Thread M Bod
Good on ya Dennis. Ski hills closed down here (one due to 'spring' and one due to the 100+km/hr winds). I was happy to see close to 2ft of snow while skiing 2 weeks ago in. Sunday River Maine. But now I'm done. Ready to hit the water! Just need mother nature to assist! Mark On 26 Mar 2014 17

Re: Stus-List Flexible Solar panels

2014-03-26 Thread Richard N. Bush
Dwight, do you remember where you purchased the Honda generator, and approximate cost? Thanks Richard 1985 37CB; with spring projects now underway! Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: dwight

Re: Stus-List Flexible Solar panels

2014-03-26 Thread Rick Brass
Your 220AH house bank (2 batteries is the house bank and not the total complement for batteries?) gives you about 110AH of usable power. 50percent discharge is about what you can get from deep cycle batteries before you start doing damage and losing battery life. My boat uses about 75-85 AH per

Re: Stus-List Flexible Solar panels

2014-03-26 Thread Wally Bryant
Solbian would be the way to go. I would have bought them, but they were in pre-production when I was doing the project, and unless you were Bruce Schwab you couldn't get your hands on them. FWIW, I have three little 11W flexible panels on my dodger, w

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread dwight
Looking good is very important, no matter the cost you have to get something to dry that hair while she’s on the boat or she may not like being on the boat and that will be a drag…the Honda generator may be your best bet, with an extension cord she will be able to use the dryer of her choice and it

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Jack Brennan
You forgot one type of hair dyer that is easy to use, energy efficient and time-tested A towel. Jack Brennan Former C&C 25 Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. From: j...@svpaws.net Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:29 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Inverters So th

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread j...@svpaws.net
So the suggestions are: Stick her head in the oven Plumbers torch Dinghy ride @ 20 knots Other propane torch Triple ought cable to a $1000 inverter Short hair sounding good right about now? John Sent from my iPad > On Mar 26, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Jim Watts wrote: > > You could probably lash so

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Jim Watts
You could probably lash something up with a small 12V fan and a plumber's propane torch. Don't get too close. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 26 March 2014 15:14, dwight wrote: > That's funny, I thought it was too obvious that the bilge blower not the > head went in the

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread dwight
That’s funny, I thought it was too obvious that the bilge blower not the head went in the oven…interesting variant though, I’ll take a book of tickets _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of j...@svpaws.net Sent: March 26, 2014 6:45 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Della Barba, Joe
My dinghy goes about 20 knots. I cannot understand why that is not a good enough dryer for anyone. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:12 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Inverters

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread dwight
I knew about them and I looked briefly on line but did find a source, that's when I thought a starship captain might have the knowledge and resources to design and build one and in so doing maybe make a little profit on his invention _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.c

Re: Stus-List Flexible Solar panels

2014-03-26 Thread dwight
I have a Honda 2000i, that is good for a hairdryer but not the use I got it for...we both like shorter hair and natural wind / sun dry...the 2000i is compact and clean but I would not want to carry it too far and it runs quiet...I can store it on the cabin sole just aft of the V berth or I can stor

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread j...@svpaws.net
Ed: If you tell your wife of two years to stick her head in the oven while you run bilge blowers please sell tickets! With luck you'll be on the Genesis planet when you make the suggestion. John Sent from my iPad > On Mar 26, 2014, at 2:59 PM, "dwight" wrote: > > Edd > > Turn the oven o

Re: Stus-List Flexible Solar panels

2014-03-26 Thread j...@svpaws.net
And the flexible variant tends to be less efficient than fixed. That's changing but at a price. John Sent from my iPad > On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > > I bet you'd get more milage out of insulating your ice box better. > Don Casey has a whole chapter about this in his

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Rick Brass
Actually, my former girlfriend did have a propane hair dryer. It was something she got from a camping outfitter. Had batteries to run the fan, a piezo-electric igniter for the butane, and was refilled by one of the butane cans you use to refill a lighter. She was happy with it. Wonder if you cou

Re: Stus-List Flexible Solar panels

2014-03-26 Thread ahycrace
I think I'm going to go with one of those small Honda generators. They are so quiet now that you almost can't hear them. I was on a C&C 37 last year an they used it for an hour or so during the day and it worked great. We were at Block Island and 10 feet from the boat you could not hear it.

Re: Stus-List Flexible Solar panels

2014-03-26 Thread Stevan Plavsa
>From what I've read the Solbian panels are the only flexible panels worth getting. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Robert Boyer wrote: > I have two 100-watt semi-flexible Solbian-brand panels--one on my hard > dodger and the other one on the bimini. On the hard

Stus-List Flexible Solar panels

2014-03-26 Thread Robert Boyer
I have two 100-watt semi-flexible Solbian-brand panels--one on my hard dodger and the other one on the bimini. On the hard dodger, I bolted thru the corrugated plastic sheet that is needed for cooling. On the bimini, I fastened it with 6 twist lock fasteners--the bimini was reinforced at the c

Re: Stus-List Nightmare winter

2014-03-26 Thread Dennis C.
Nightmare winter? I'm in Colorado skiing...again. Had a great day on the slopes. Sitting in bar at base watching the beginning of a 24+ hour snow event. Going to be good skiing tomorrow. :) Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:41 PM, M Bod w

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread Wwadjourn
Thanks all for replies. I'll let you know how it turns out. -Original Message- From: Dennis C. To: cnc-list Sent: Wed, Mar 26, 2014 4:27 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners Gets my vote. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:20 PM, "Gary Nylander" wr

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread Dennis C.
Gets my vote. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:20 PM, "Gary Nylander" wrote: > > As most screws get 'screwed' up - no pun intended' , I would vote for the > Robertson head screws in stainless, and an electric screwdriver. > > Gary > - Original Message - > From

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread Rich Knowles
And flatheads fare better than round head screws as far as the sockets getting chewed up are concerned. Rich > On Mar 26, 2014, at 17:08, Bill Connon wrote: > > Gary Nylander wrote: >> As most screws get 'screwed' up - no pun intended' , I would vote for the >> Robertson head screws in stain

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread Bill Connon
Gary Nylander wrote: As most screws get 'screwed' up - no pun intended' , I would vote for the Robertson head screws in stainless, and an electric screwdriver. Gary - Original Message - *From:* RAYMOND SHIBE *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Flexible Solar panels

2014-03-26 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I bet you'd get more milage out of insulating your ice box better. Don Casey has a whole chapter about this in his book "good old boat". If I ever install refrigeration on my boat I'm only doing it after an icebox rebuild. To answer your question about the panel, the dodger will not help you. Shad

Re: Stus-List FW: Nightmare winter

2014-03-26 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Regarding the winter .. I saw a special on the melting ice caps. It's warmer up there, and colder down here as a result of changes to the jet stream. Or so the theory goes. Those that don't believe in climate change may disagree. One of the factors was air pollution actually settling into the layer

Re: Stus-List FW: Nightmare winter

2014-03-26 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Not sure what this thread is about but I sold my Mirage 24 a couple of years back to a club member for $3700. Sails usable, 155% genoa newish, main old. Honda outboard 8hp. Generally in good shape, newish cushions, it presented fairly well. For what it's worth. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On

Re: Stus-List FW: Nightmare winter

2014-03-26 Thread Della Barba, Joe
I think this is the coldest winter in Maryland in decades at least. We have had over 40 inches of snow when we can go years between seeing ANY stick to the road on the island. I still have anti-freeze in the engine in frickin MARCH and almost April. For the past 4-5 weeks we have got ONE good sa

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread Gary Nylander
As most screws get 'screwed' up - no pun intended' , I would vote for the Robertson head screws in stainless, and an electric screwdriver. Gary - Original Message - From: RAYMOND SHIBE To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List f

Stus-List FW: Nightmare winter

2014-03-26 Thread Bill Coleman
Cardinal.jpg Bill Yesterday I met a young guy at my Mirage 24 - he's very interested in buying.� I listed it for $4400 - with great sails, and all the gear needed to sail. I feel like the price is good, I just want to get the new boat floating and see some sunshine!!! T

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread dwight
Edd Turn the oven on, use a bilge blower fan and connect a hose…presto, hair dryer…or connect to your heating system, especially good for espar forced air or be the first to invent a good propane / butane hair dryer…you are on the Starship Enterprise so you should have the resources…right :-)

Stus-List Flexible Solar panels

2014-03-26 Thread Kim Brown
All, Looking to add some solar. Currently I am only good for about a day at anchor before I have to address the batteries. Main draw is the reefer. (wife has short hair and have gone with LEDs) We were anchored out this past weekend and by the end of day 2 the batteries (2x grp 31h - 110 amp hrs e

Stus-List Nightmare winter

2014-03-26 Thread M Bod
Yesterday I met a young guy at my Mirage 24 - he's very interested in buying.  I listed it for $4400 - with great sails, and all the gear needed to sail. I feel like the price is good, I just want to get the new boat floating and see some sunshine!!! Then today, I can't see 50 yards with the s

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Edd Schillay
Bill, Guarantee? Seriously? I’ve only been married two years and I know there’s no such thing. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread RAYMOND SHIBE
For the price of the PYC fasteners you could buy a battery powered drill/screw driver and simply use regular screws. My near future plans are to use "T" nuts from McMaster and Carr as the threads in the anchor points for my floor boards are no longer viable. Ray Shibe On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Bill Bina
Is there any guarantee that going through all this effort and expense will prevent your wife from cutting her hair short any way, as she apparently wants to do? :-) Bill Bina On 3/26/2014 2:23 PM, Dennis C. wrote: Edd, Took a while but we found a smaller hair dryer that Touché's 1000 watt i

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Dennis C.
Edd, Took a while but we found a smaller hair dryer that Touché's 1000 watt inverter will handle. The admiral likes it OK. Also my research on this indicated that somehow running a European voltage hair dryer on North American voltage works. Not sure how but I read something to that effect on

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Edd Schillay
Tim, Awesome. I better warn my credit card company to brace for impact. Shields Up! All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Lo

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Tim Goodyear
Ed, the defender sale has already started. I am two winches, a gas solenoid / regulator and battery charge relay richer... Tim On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Edd Schillay wrote: > Listers, > > As part of my ongoing battle for my wife not to cut her hair short, she > would like to be able t

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Bill Coleman
Let nature take its course and pocket the $$ !! Took me years to get my girlfriend to cut her hair, Looked great, and now she let it grow back! (Probably to tick me off) Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay S

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread j...@svpaws.net
True, but the actual load is only 125 amps + the converter inefficiency. Either way, it's not unmanageable. Of course, the load will come at the worst time - in the morning after the batteries have been running the fridge all night but before the engine is running. John Sent from my iPad >

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Due to Peukert’s formula it is going to be a lot more than 15 AH. Maybe as much as double that. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of j...@svpaws.net Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:37 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Inverters

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread Josh Muckley
PYI has some 1/4 turn fasteners that look promissing. They sent me a single free sample. I haven't tried it yet. They are pricey but fewer are required and they are supposed to be much easier and more convienient. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk Solomons, MD On Mar 26, 2014 11:14 AM, "wwadjo...@aol.c

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread j...@svpaws.net
Battery capacity and wiring to/from the inverter are the only constraints. Even at a 200 amp draw (1500 watts/115 x 13 + converter loss) the battery usage is still only 15 amps assuming 5 minutes of usage. Big wires however. Also, check my math! John Sent from my iPad > On Mar 26, 2014, a

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Della Barba, Joe
I am getting a 1000 watt inverter to run the shop-vac on the boat. It overheats my 400 watt unit after about 2 minutes. We have a small "travel" hair dryer that is 1000 watts that should work. If you have a 120+ amp alternator you can run the engine and keep up with it. Don't forget Peukert's fo

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread j...@svpaws.net
Very expensive solution. Unless you're planning serious and extensive offshore sailing, I fail to see why you would do it. I vote for the electric screwdriver. Can certainly sympathize on the glued down floorboard issue. John Sent from my iPad > On Mar 26, 2014, at 11:27 AM, "Marek Dziedzic"

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Edd Schillay
Ken, Yeah — 300 Watts will end up with her either never cruising with me or grabbing the scissors and I’ll be married to a Lt. Ilia look-alike in no time. (http://im.rediff.com/movies/2011/dec/22slid4.jpg) I never run an inverter — or anything that will pull more than 5 amps wi

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Ken Heaton
A 1875 watt Blow Drier is going to cause a 2000 watt inverter to draw a sustained 155 amps steadily off your batteries the entire time the blow drier is running. How much battery capacity do you have onboard? You'd need about 775 amp hours of battery bank to sustain this for any length of time.

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread dwight
You guys who have floor boards screwed down are lucky IMHO.on Alianna the teak and holy cabin sole is glued fast.no easy option to take them home to work on but not many joints either. the bilge cover board us removable as well as a circular cut out that allows access to the after most keel bolt an

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread Chuck S
I really like the SS floorboard fasteners posted by Marek, but a cordless drill with the right tip can remove many screws very quickly for inspection. I'll stick with the screws. Chuck - Original Message - From: "Marek Dziedzic" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, March 26,

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread Marek Dziedzic
I have seen some quick release fasteners for that. Here is one example: http://www.go2marine.com/product/212864F/floor-anchors-installation-kit.html. They aren’t the cheapest solution, but they might be worth it. Marek -- Message: 11 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 11:13:44

Re: Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Bill Bina
The RV crowd has 12 volt hair driers. Here is one example: http://www.my12voltstore.com/Power_Hunt_12_Volt_Hair_Dryer_p/pnp-210a.htm Bill Bina On 3/26/2014 11:05 AM, Edd Schillay wrote: Listers, As part of my ongoing battle for my wife not to cut her hair short, she would like to be able to

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread Edd Schillay
Bill, Mine were all screwed down as well, except for a few access ports with thumb-holes for them. I keep some of them now unscrewed so I can pull them when needed (bilge pump access, engine thru-hull access, wiring, etc.) All the best, Edd Edd M. S

Re: Stus-List floor board fasteners

2014-03-26 Thread wwadjo...@aol.com
I am redoing my cabin floorboards. Previous owner had them screwed down. Very difficult to remove for inspection. Anyone have link/suggestion for other options for securing with better access? I thought I had saved a similar question but can't find it. Bill Walker Evening Star CnC 36 Pent

Stus-List Inverters

2014-03-26 Thread Edd Schillay
Listers, As part of my ongoing battle for my wife not to cut her hair short, she would like to be able to use a hair dryer on board the boat. My current inverter is rated at 600 Watts AC, which is nowhere near enough to handle a hair dryer. Anyone know of any issues in changin