Stus-List 33 mk II Repowering- Nothing is ever easy.

2013-03-11 Thread Gord Tidmarsh
I'm in the throes of repowering a 1986 33 II. After much deliberation, I chose a Beta 25 to replace the existing Yanmar 2gm. Dimensionally, the replacement sat within the footprint of the existing Yanmar. The problem is that the footprint assumes a square engine space with access on both sides a

Stus-List Roberts screwdrivers

2013-03-11 Thread Marek Dziedzic
or try buying it in Canada. Any hardware store would have it (including Home Depot, Lowe or Canadian Tire). Marek in Ottawa___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels NOw Deisel fuel comparisons................

2013-03-11 Thread Russ & Melody
Hi Ron, I agree with going for the cheaper fuel choice but I hope none of us are willing to pay extra for a higher cetane rating thinking they are getting a "better" fuel for the lil' diesel engine. At the speeds we operate our engines the minimum cetane rated fuels (>42) are just fine. Do

Re: Stus-List Robertson screwdrivers

2013-03-11 Thread Russ & Melody
Hear, hear Glen, True to the subject and to be clear, this is the venerable Robertson screwdriver (and screws). In my electrical apprenticeship days it was a red Robbie or a green Robbie or a black Robbie. A yellow Robbie was probably for girls. I didn't hear about square drive screws until

Re: Stus-List Roberts screwdrivers

2013-03-11 Thread Glen Eddie
When will the world understand what canadian's understand about the sturdy Robbie! Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "Rick Brass" To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Stus-List Roberts screwdrivers Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 11:48 pm Lowes sells them. I have a #1 and #2 that see

Re: Stus-List Roberts screwdrivers

2013-03-11 Thread Rick Brass
Lowes sells them. I have a #1 and #2 that seem to cover all the screws used on Imzadi. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John and Maryann Read Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:31 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Robert

Re: Stus-List Roberts screwdrivers

2013-03-11 Thread Antoine Rose
These are typically Canadian. Try this multi function tool from Lee Valley. Fifteen screwdrivers in one quality tool. It carries Robertson #0, #1, #2, #3. Just hope you're not looking for a #00. http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?p=40859&cat=1,43411,43417&ap=1 Antoine (C&C 30 Cousin) Le

Re: Stus-List A convincing case in favor of boarding ladders

2013-03-11 Thread Colin Kilgour
Well said, Bill. (Or maybe he's a helmsman who never had to grind a winch or hoist a sail) Cheers Colin On 3/8/13, Bill Coleman wrote: > I think that kid must have been playing video games when he should have > been > playing sports and lifting weights! No upper body strength . . . > > > > Bill

Re: Stus-List C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-11 Thread Richard N. Bush
There's a 1979 Landfall 38 on ebay; http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-C-C-Landfall38-/251239442910?pt=Sailboats&hash=item3a7f09a9de The info says its in Accomac, Virginia; anyone know anything about it? Any known or common "issues" with the 1979 model? The owner's description goes into some

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-11 Thread Pat Nevitt
That is just like the one on my North main except under the logo in smaller font is 29-2 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Ken Heaton wrote: > This is what the logo looks like on our North Main: > https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-x2Au24TWnpo/TMzYwz12rII/Jkg/vR2C3pc8pZ

Re: Stus-List Roberts screwdrivers

2013-03-11 Thread Dennis C.
John, I've found #1, #2, and #3 square drives are all I need for Touche'.  I had a nice set of #1, #2, #3 Robertson drivers that got stolen.  I got them from mcmaster.com. Now I have a Husky brand set from Home Depot.  Go here:

Re: Stus-List Roberts screwdrivers

2013-03-11 Thread Joel Aronson
Amazon has a set with size 0. Joel Sent from my iPad On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Rich Knowles wrote: Check any hardware outlet. They will come as part of a kit. Here in the Frozen North they would either be a green or yellow handled Robertson driver. All Canadians have to have one of each to g

Re: Stus-List Roberts screwdrivers

2013-03-11 Thread Rich Knowles
Check any hardware outlet. They will come as part of a kit. Here in the Frozen North they would either be a green or yellow handled Robertson driver. All Canadians have to have one of each to get a drivers license. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-03-11, at 21:31, "John and Maryann Re

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-11 Thread Ken Heaton
This is what the logo looks like on our North Main: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-x2Au24TWnpo/TMzYwz12rII/Jkg/vR2C3pc8pZ4/s1198/IMG_2275.JPG Ken H. On 11 March 2013 20:39, Jim And Micki Reinardy wrote: > Jake, > > Thanks, it's on the order but the sailmaker was not sure it would lo

Re: Stus-List Roberts screwdrivers

2013-03-11 Thread dwight veinot
Or just take the smallest one you can find which is still too big and file it to fit.screw drivers are cheap Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay Sent: March 11, 2013 9:

Re: Stus-List Roberts screwdrivers

2013-03-11 Thread Edd Schillay
John, Actually, on a trip to Home Depot, I found a Husky mini driver and wrench kit with a variety of tips including square ones. I can't find the one I bought, but check this out: http://m.homedepot.com/p/Husky-Nut-Driver-Set-52-Pieces-010-376-HKY/202671489/ All the best, Edd --

Stus-List Roberts screwdrivers

2013-03-11 Thread John and Maryann Read
The hinges on our ice box hatch and navigation table top need tightening. They came OEM with tiny Robertson (a/k/a square recess) screws - I am guessing a #3 screw but hard to tell. A Google search indicates we would need a #0 or 00 size bit screwdriver. Not the sort of thing your local hardware

Re: Stus-List bird protection +

2013-03-11 Thread Martin DeYoung
Here in the Seattle area the birds are less of a concern than otters, raccoons, and muskrats. In salt water marinas the otters have been busy. For Calypso we ended up with essentially a deck/lower lifeline fence around the boat to prevent otter's from moving onboard. (The winter work cover mad

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-11 Thread Jim And Micki Reinardy
Jake, Thanks, it's on the order but the sailmaker was not sure it would look like. I appreciate all the feedback. Jim Sent from my iPad On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:36 PM, "Jake Brodersen" wrote: > Jim, > > One thing I’ve learned with sail makers, assume nothing. Specify it on your > order. I

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-11 Thread Jake Brodersen
Jim, One thing I’ve learned with sail makers, assume nothing. Specify it on your order. I didn’t ask for it, but it was done anyway. I sure like it though. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III Midnight Mistress Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-11 Thread Firewater
Jake, My main is going to be from North as well. I assume they have that logo on file, but will find out. Thanks, Jim Sent from my iPad On Mar 11, 2013, at 4:12 PM, "Jake Brodersen" wrote: > I’ve got the C&C in black letters over the top of the red and blue C&C > stripes. Looks great.

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels NOw Deisel fuel comparisons................

2013-03-11 Thread Ron Casciato
All, I sat through a workshop form the Yanmar guru on diesel engines some time ago in Newport RI. He claimed that the "truck stop" diesel had a higher Cetane rating than the then marine diesel and recommended that we use the "Trucker's fuel" It was more rigorously regulated than marine diesel at

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-11 Thread Jake Brodersen
I’ve got the C&C in black letters over the top of the red and blue C&C stripes. Looks great. North made the main. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III Midnight Mistress Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: Monday

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Martin DeYoung
? cheaper because it is not subject to the fuel tax - hence the red dye. < Back in the mid 90's I delivered a Bendytoy 42 to San Diego. The wind was light from Cape Flattery to Crescent City California. We stopped in Crescent City to re-fuel. The fuel dock only had un-taxed (red dye) fue

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-11 Thread Firewater
Thanks for all the replies. Joe, I agree with you that it seems to be rare. That strikes me as odd, it's about the best advertising you can get for a boat, especially if it's on the sail passing you on the race course! Jim Reinardy Sent from my iPad On Mar 11, 2013, at 10:28 AM, "Della Barba

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Edd Schillay
Ken, Wow! Do you have a Yanmar engine? How does that look in your aft cabin where the back of the panel is? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship En

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Ken Heaton
Hi Edd, If you're looking for a different location for the panel, ours is on the aft side of the starboard cockpit seat. I like it there. You can see it in this photo, its a Yanmar Panel: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fQN3vP3gOy4/TMzYWm1tEaI/Jkg/7zuChqH0zes/s902/66_sailListings_6.jp

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Dennis C.
Edd, The fuel gauge should be standard.  However not all engine gauges are the same.  I'd order new Universal gauges and install them where I wanted.  Universal usually uses Teleflex gauges.  However, you may find it cheaper to order a new engine control panel and simply pull the gauges.  A c

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-11 Thread Dennis C.
My sailmaker just put "C 35 C" on my main.  He just did it, I didn't request it. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA > > From: Joel Aronson >To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" >Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:24 AM >Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail logo > > >UK j

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels + fuel gauge

2013-03-11 Thread Martin DeYoung
? is gas station diesel different from marine... < The only significant difference would be the tax rate. I use gas station diesel in Calypso's Perkins 4-108 regularly. I drive a diesel truck so filling a 5 gal can at the same time is easier than a trip to the fuel dock. ? My fuel g

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Joel Aronson
Marine diesel should be cheaper because it is not subject to the fuel tax - hence the red dye. Of course, the word "Marine" has its own tax. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Edd Schillay wrote: > Tom, > > That's one of my crew's ass -- Dave. I think Chuck S on the list ha

Re: Stus-List First sail

2013-03-11 Thread Rich Knowles
Makes all the difference:) Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-03-11, at 14:15, Joel Aronson wrote: He is a no-frills kind of guy. Probably Ivory soap. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Rich Knowles wrote: > Does he have a favorite scent? > > Rich Knowles > Indigo. LF38 > Halifax > >

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Edd Schillay
Tom, That's one of my crew's ass -- Dave. I think Chuck S on the list has first dibbs on it though. He keeps asking me to send Dave over. He says it's for his foredeck skill, but I don't judge. But mine isn't bad either :) At least my wife says so. I think there are d

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Tom Buscaglia
Edd The Yanmar panel on Alera is on the starboard side on the front panel. I can bend down and see he gauges. The only issue I have had is inadvertently stepping on the ignition key and bending the crap out of it from time to time. I'll probably screw a little guard over it eventually, so

Re: Stus-List First sail

2013-03-11 Thread Joel Aronson
He is a no-frills kind of guy. Probably Ivory soap. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Rich Knowles wrote: > Does he have a favorite scent? > > Rich Knowles > Indigo. LF38 > Halifax > > On 2013-03-11, at 13:52, Joel Aronson wrote: > > Yup! My mechanic uses dish soap to lube the intake hose, so

Stus-List C&C Spear Logo

2013-03-11 Thread Ryan Raber
I have a C&C Spear Logo. Not sure how to post it but you can email me and I can forward it to you? RR Ryan Raber Scapa 34/36R ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List First sail

2013-03-11 Thread Rich Knowles
Does he have a favorite scent? Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-03-11, at 13:52, Joel Aronson wrote: Yup! My mechanic uses dish soap to lube the intake hose, so I create a small bubble bath behind the boat on the first start. Joel On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:47 PM, wrote: > Don't

Re: Stus-List First sail

2013-03-11 Thread Joel Aronson
Yup! My mechanic uses dish soap to lube the intake hose, so I create a small bubble bath behind the boat on the first start. Joel On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:47 PM, wrote: > Don't you just love it when the engine starts up after the winter? > Sam :-) > > *From: *Della Barba, Joe > *Sent: *Mo

Re: Stus-List First sail

2013-03-11 Thread sam . c . salter
Don't you just love it when the engine starts up after the winter? Sam :-)

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Joel Aronson
Edd, Fuel gauges are universal. I know the Yanmar tachs are proprietary and expensive. I don't know about the Universals. Joel On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Edd Schillay wrote: > They work, but they're worn and kinda ugly. The panel is fine. I just > don't like the location -- not that

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe
You'll have to do some research and find out what ohm range your sensors are. You'll need a diesel tach to connect to the AC tap on your alternator. The switches are switches - you just need to know how they are wired. I totally redid my panel - all new gauges and switches. I bought new senders

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Edd Schillay
They work, but they're worn and kinda ugly. The panel is fine. I just don't like the location -- not that I'm sure where I would move it to. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Different manufacturers may use different senders. 33-240 ohm senders are a USA standard and VDO/EU stuff is something else. That said, are your GAUGES bad or just the panel? Why not mount the old stuff in a new panel? Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Beh

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Edd Schillay
Joel, Thanks. I guess what I'm most curious about is the gauges. I mean -- regardless of where the signal comes fro, it's just wires sending signal, right? Is a Universal fuel gauge different than another one? Is one tach gauge different from another? Same as to temp. A glow p

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-11 Thread Pat Nevitt
When I had the main made for my 29-2, North put the C&C logo on the sail with 29-2 underneath that. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Firewater wrote: > All, > > Joel's post below was a reminder of a question I had. I have a new main > on order and finalizing the design. The sailmaker was aski

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Joel Aronson
Edd, Panels and instruments are not universal. For example, Yanmar does not have glow plugs and the tach works off the flywheel, not the alternator. You could make a panel out of Starboard that holds the instruments and switches you have, but to duplicate a Yanmar panel would be a major PIA. I

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-11 Thread Edd Schillay
Jim, I've seen (And used to have one) sails on C&C's with the C&C logo on them: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/grafx/cnclogo.gif That is, without the "YACHTS" and the two thin blue stripes above and below. They've slowly disappeared from sails in order to avoid the extra

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe
http://desiresailing.org/images/DesireRand.jpg I found that. AFAIK logos on the main are fairly rare for C&C. Our boat never had one. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Firewater Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:15 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subj

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-11 Thread Joel Aronson
UK just used applied "C&C" in letters that mimic the font on the plate on the side of the cabin with "35" under it. Joel 35/3 On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Firewater wrote: > All, > > Joel's post below was a reminder of a question I had. I have a new main > on order and finalizing the des

Stus-List Engine Control Panels

2013-03-11 Thread Edd Schillay
All, This may seem like an odd question, but I don't know anything about engines (hence why I sail). The Enterprise has a Universal Diesel, which runs great, but I hate the location of the panel. It's low in the cockpit and faces forward so if you're driving, you can't see the

Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-11 Thread Firewater
All, Joel's post below was a reminder of a question I had. I have a new main on order and finalizing the design. The sailmaker was asking about a logo. Neither of mine have an insignia and there are not enough C&C's around here that I ever recall seeing one. Can someone tell me if there is

Re: Stus-List First sail

2013-03-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe
We'll be in the Severn and Annapolis for Memorial Day. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:47 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List First sail Joe, I had time to install the cabin s

Re: Stus-List First sail

2013-03-11 Thread Joel Aronson
Joe, I had time to install the cabin sole, fix the stereo and clean up. My new clutches and rope organizer forgave me for having to sit on the shelf another week. Wind was around 5 knots. There were a few other boats, both sail and power, out around Annapolis, and I did see a crab pot. My cle

Re: Stus-List First sail

2013-03-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe
I was *so* tempted. I got the engine running, bilge scrubbed, dinghy bottom painted, and redid the fuel lines to run my 2 pumps in parallel instead of series. If I went out then I'd be doing all that on a cold rainy day. Glad someone got out. Engine started right up too :) Joe Della Barba Coquin