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2012-11-14 Thread Marek Dziedzic
I haven't tried it myself, but I read many times in various forums about making a hole on top of the oil filter with a screwdriver to drain the oil from it. Might be worth a try. Marek (s/v Fennel) in Ottawa ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Alb

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2012-11-14 Thread Sam Salter
Gary, I was sailing around Rock Hall and Oxford. Didn't get to St Michaels. Also went into Baltimore inner Harbour - had Ravens tickets! Much more civilized on the western side, but great sailing over to the east. Great sun and wind. No rain all week - unusual for the Chesapeake - well when we go

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2012-11-14 Thread Andrew Burton
Well, be careful. I had a mechanic--hired by the owner--do that on the big Volvo on a Swan 65 once. Had to replace the engine! On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:16 PM, wrote: > This has been done on this boat for years. You just need to be prudent. > However, it still makes it easy to do the bucket th

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2012-11-14 Thread David Risch
Until I did the y-valve install, so did I...but I thought the heat exchanger protected the closed loop of the engine from any excess pressure. Assuming, of course, its a fresh water cooled engine...Raw water cooled...another story. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: cnc-list@c

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2012-11-14 Thread johnrmcl
This has been done on this boat for years. You just need to be prudent. However, it still makes it easy to do the bucket thing, as well. -Original Message- From: Andrew Burton To: cnc-list Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:11 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing Advice sought for C&C34 I

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2012-11-14 Thread Andrew Burton
I've seen advice like this a couple of times. Be very careful about hooking an land pressure water hose to your raw water system. As a matter of fact, don't do it. You can end up filling the exhaust manifold and the cylinders with water, which unsurprisingly, is bad for the engine. Far better to re

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2012-11-14 Thread David Risch
Or y-valve another intake hose with a screened pick-up. Great for winterizing and another source of bilge water removal. Real simple and adds a little piece of mind David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: fastguy1...@yahoo.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com; robertabb...@eastlink.ca F

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2012-11-14 Thread Tim Goodyear
For the filter, unscrew it inside a ziploc bag (once you've loosened it). Still a bit of mess, but less. Tim Mojito 35-3 Branford, CT On Nov 14, 2012, at 4:59 PM, David Risch wrote: > Mark, > > I would run the engine a bit more with water after the oil change so that > you can check oil le

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2012-11-14 Thread johnrmcl
Or have a very resourceful PO who plumbed in circuit with a valve and hose connection that enables one to close off the the outside intake, connect hose to outside water source, open the valve in the plumbed in circuit and run the engine quite merrily in minutes. Cheers, John "Falcon" -- C&C 2

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2012-11-14 Thread Kim Brown
FWIW -the discussion got me to check. I had thought the access panels on my 35-3 were standard laminate but they appear to be fiberglass panels that are very thin - texture and finish on the front but some definite random strands and resin on the unfinished back. That said, they are very much like

Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels

2012-11-14 Thread Gary Nylander
Where were you, Sam? There is actually quite a bit over here, but just not a whole bunch of commercialization, which is the way we like it. We're an hour and a half from DC and Baltimore, so that is enough 'civilization' for most of us. And about 5-600 miles of shoreline in our county alone - O

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2012-11-14 Thread David Risch
Mark, I would run the engine a bit more with water after the oil change so that you can check oil level and top off if needed. Then proceed to run anti-freeze through engine. Prepare for a big mess with the filter. Lots of paper towels etc. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell)

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2012-11-14 Thread Joel Aronson
Thanks everyone! Lots of great options! I need to measure the longest panel and narrow down the materials.*The Office* has come a long way in a year, and you guys have been invaluable! On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Persuasion wrote: > Joel > > I’ve replaced the access panels on my headli

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2012-11-14 Thread Mark Meyer
Robert and Jonathon, and all, Thanks for the tips; are there suggestions about best practices when doing oil changes on the 34? Mark From: Robert Abbott To: Mark Meyer ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:05 AM Subject: Winterizing

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2012-11-14 Thread Persuasion
Joel I’ve replaced the access panels on my headliner with 1/8” FRP that can be bought at Home Depot in 4 X 8 sheets. Used the old panels as templates. I tried attaching a couple of panels with velcro. Didn’t like the look. Too thick. Next I tried screws like the originals were attached. A

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2012-11-14 Thread Bob Hickson
This summer, I replaced the headliner panels on my 29-2. Used new 1/8 plywood to make new panels. Painted the upper face. Bought plastic veneer like the stuff that you iron onto the edge of particle board. Home depot sells this in 12" x 99" rolls - "Bernnett Preglued Melamine Veneer" Just use

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2012-11-14 Thread
Richard: C&C has used a variety of materials and fastening methods on the various boats over the years and some have been more durable than others depending on the environment in which they find themselves. Rich Knowles INDIGO - LF38 Halifax, NS From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun..

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2012-11-14 Thread
Here's some other stuff I have used for lining commercial garages that looks very nice and is friendly to use: http://www.palramamericas.com/Wall-Tuf Rich Rich Knowles INDIGO - LF38 Halifax, NS ___ This List is provided by th

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2012-11-14 Thread Joel Aronson
Richard, In the case of my boat, it is not the headliner, but the access panels that are the problem. They are vinyl over plywood. The long ones are screwed in, the more rectangular ones under the winches have velcro. Over the years there have been leaks that have caused the plywood to fail in

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2012-11-14 Thread Richard N. Bush
I hate to be the caboose on this conversation but I do not understand what is happening to the headliners on the boats, I've never had a headliner fall or come apart, can someone explain what is happening and possibly the cause? thanks. Richard 1987 33-II Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 Sou

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2012-11-14 Thread Sam Salter
You can also get sheets of thin, white plastic (8' x 4') at Home Depot, RONA and I suspect Lowes (but I've never been in a Lowes) Not used it for headliners but I have used it for covers inside to put over access holes for winch and jammer bolts. sam :-) On 2012-11-14, at 9:06 AM, Joel Aronson

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2012-11-14 Thread Sam Salter
I was sailing the eastern shore of Maryland about 6 weeks ago - your right there is nothing there! Get it online: Sailrite: http://www.sailrite.com/3M-Dual-Lock-Type-250-1-Clear Amazon, eBay, office depot sam :-) On 2012-11-14, at 8:44 AM, "Gary Nylander" wrote: > Where do you get it? > > G

Re: Stus-List Gary - Pursuit racing

2012-11-14 Thread Martin DeYoung
A race with one of the best participation records here in the PNW is a single or double handed pursuit race. The Sloop Tavern Yacht Club's Race to the Straits will see 80 to 100 boats enter. A 24 foot cruising style design may start at 8am, a SC 70 around 10:15. GPS time is used as the offici

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2012-11-14 Thread dwight veinot
Joel I replaced all the headliner panels on Alianna a few years ago with 1/8 inch thick white Plexiglas fastened with round head Phillips stainless steel screws which is what was there when I took ownership and which Wally calls the "industrial" look. It looked fine when I first did it but after a

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2012-11-14 Thread Gary Nylander
We have just a few predetermined courses for Pursuit. One member has a program with each boat (small fleet - maybe 15 boats in his program) and the starting setbacks for the courses. We have one boat which is our highest handicap boat ( a fiberglass copy of a Hereschoff Fish - handicap 350 (arbi

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2012-11-14 Thread D.Drake
I picked up a pack at West Marine several years ago .Not cheap but works well On 14/11/2012 10:44 AM, Gary Nylander wrote: Where do you get it? Gary 30-1 in the boondocks on the Eastern Shore of Maryland - Lowe's nearby, but over 50 miles to anything else - Original Message -

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2012-11-14 Thread Gary Nylander
Where do you get it? Gary 30-1 in the boondocks on the Eastern Shore of Maryland - Lowe's nearby, but over 50 miles to anything else - Original Message - From: Sam Salter To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner acces

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2012-11-14 Thread Don Siddall
At a YC in Sydney Australia a race is held every week throughout most of the year. Your start time, based on your recent performance, is posted on their website. The start line is just off the club house. A large digital clock, which is visible from the starting area, is used as a reference. Of

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2012-11-14 Thread Indigo
Dennis, We do a couple of pursuit races too – both with courses that are set well in advance so the distances are known. I am not sure I understand your comment about choosing a maximum handicap. We find out ahead of the race who plans to participate and then work the time differences starting w

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2012-11-14 Thread Robert Abbott
Mark: If your boat in 'on the hard', you will need a few pieces of hardware to do the job.oil pump, garden hose, large bucket and a 10' foot piece of the hose the same diameter as the hose that attaches to your raw water pump. Remove the hose on the inlet side of your water pumpattac

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2012-11-14 Thread Dennis C.
Mike, We do pursuits in my area also. We use set courses so the distance is known. You have to choose a maximum handicap and go from there. Go to Corinthians.org click on the "sailing instructions" link. Then look at the staggered start documents. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2

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2012-11-14 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Gary How do you determine start times for each boat in your pursuit races? We have tried a couple of methods and all seem a bit problematic but tremendous fun. Our sailors love pursuit format but it is a bit of work beforeheand for the Race Committee Mike