Richard,

In the case of my boat, it is not the headliner, but the access panels that
are the problem.  They are vinyl over plywood.  The long ones are screwed
in, the more rectangular ones under the winches have velcro.  Over the
years there have been leaks that have caused the plywood to fail in the
panels over the quarter-berth and nav station.  Also, the vinyl is becoming
unglued in places.  Its not terribly noticeable until you remove a panel
and have pieces of plywood falling out.  If your boat is watertight, you
probably don't have this issue.  The PO of my boat was too tolerant of
leaks, and I am cleaning up his mess.

Hope this clarifies the matter.

Joel
35/3
Annapolis


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Richard N. Bush <bushma...@aol.com> wrote:

> I hate to be the caboose on this conversation but I do not understand what
> is happening to the headliners on the boats, I've never had a headliner
> fall or come apart, can someone explain what is happening and possibly the
> cause? thanks.
>
>  Richard
> 1987 33-II
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor
> Louisville, Kentucky 40202
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:42 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
>
> No RONA stores south of the border, but I will check out HD too!
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Sam Salter <sam.c.sal...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  You can also get sheets of thin, white plastic (8' x 4') at Home Depot,
>> RONA and I suspect Lowes (but I've never been in a Lowes)
>> Not used it for headliners but I have used it for covers inside to put
>> over access holes for winch and jammer bolts.
>> sam :-)
>>
>>
>> On 2012-11-14, at 9:06 AM, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>     This plastic from McMaster looks like it would work:
>>
>>   Formable Chemical-Resistant Kydex Acrylic/PVC
>>
>>    - Color: Black, gray, or white
>>    -
>>     - Temperature Range: -40° to 150° F
>>    -
>>     - Tensile Strength: Good
>>    -
>>     - Impact Strength: Excellent
>>
>>  Often used for vehicle interiors and equipment housings, this material
>> maintains its shape after heating and forming. It resists corrosive
>> chemicals and cleaning solutions. One side is textured and the other is
>> smooth. Width and length tolerances are ±1/8". Sheets meet UL 94V0 for
>> flame retardance. To Order: Please specify color.
>> View detailed performance properties for 
>> plastics.<http://www.mcmaster.com/#8574KAC>
>>   Sheets
>>            12" × 12"
>>   12" × 24"
>>   24" × 48"
>>   48" × 48"
>>   48" × 96"
>>   Thick. Thick.
>> Tolerance   Each   Each   Each   Each   Each  1/8" ±0.009" 
>> 8650K11<http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K11>
>> $9.40 8650K12 <http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K12> $17.17 
>> 8650K13<http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K13>
>> $63.16 8650K14 <http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K14> $115.54 
>> 8650K15<http://www.mcmaster.com/#8650K15>
>> $211.73
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:56 AM, D.Drake <d...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I picked up a pack at West Marine several years ago .Not cheap but works
>>> well
>>>  On 14/11/2012 10:44 AM, Gary Nylander wrote:
>>>
>>> Where do you get it?
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> 30-1 in the boondocks on the Eastern Shore of Maryland - Lowe's nearby,
>>> but over 50 miles to anything else
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Sam Salter <sam.c.sal...@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:51 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Headliner access panels
>>>
>>>  Velcro might not be the answer, but I'm almost positive this will:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Industrial/Adhesives/Promotions-New-Products/Reclosable-Fasteners/
>>>
>>> It's like super industrial strength velcro.
>>>
>>> It's not cheap but it is reusable. I've not used it for headliners but
>>> it secures my "Velocitek Speed Puck" to the mast (about 1 lb) with a small
>>> piece about  1 1/2" x 4". This stuff bites! We take it all over the world
>>> when we sail and it's conquered big winds and big seas.
>>>
>>> sam :-)
>>> C7C 26  Liquorice
>>> Ghost Lake  Alberta
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13/11/12 4:42 PM, Jake Brodersen wrote:
>>>
>>>  Joel,****
>>> ****
>>> I plan on replacing some of mine.  I am thinking about using plastic
>>> sheeting.  I stripped of the peeling vinyl a long time ago and just painted
>>> the wood.  It is only 1/8” thick.  ¼” plywood would be hard to keep up
>>> there using the stock Velcro.  I might screw my next set on, as the Velcro
>>> just doesn’t seem to work well, especially in rough conditions.****
>>> ****
>>> Jake****
>>> ****
>>> *Jake Brodersen*
>>> *C&C 35 Mk-III*
>>> *"Midnight Mistress*
>>> *Hampton VA*
>>> ****
>>> ****
>>> *From:* CnC-List 
>>> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>]
>>> *On Behalf Of *Joel Aronson
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:43 PM
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Subject:* Stus-List Headliner access panels****
>>> ****
>>> Several of the panels have delaminated.  1/4 inch plywood would be too
>>> thick.  Is there a better replacement?  Has anyone either re-used the vinyl
>>> or found a replacement?  What glue would you use?****
>>>  ****
>>>  Thanks!
>>> ****
>>>  ****
>>>  --
>>> Joel
>>> 301 541 8551****
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