Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread Russ & Melody
Hey Jake, I don't think many would describe him as a marine variant, maybe deviant... Anyhow, can be found on Sailing Anarchy, probably not cheap :) Cheers, Russ At 07:16 PM 22/10/2012, you wrote: Danny, Mr. Clean's Magic Eraser works on a lot of tough stains. There may be a marine

Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread Jake Brodersen
Danny, Mr. Clean's Magic Eraser works on a lot of tough stains. There may be a marine variant as well, but I bet the grocery store variety is cheaper. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress Hampton VA -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.

Re: Stus-List Rudder Re-build/replacement

2012-10-22 Thread Chuck S
Not sure, but I'd guess the shaft on anything less than 1 1/2" is solid and anything over that is probably hollow. Our shaft is 3" in diameter and has to be hollow with 1/4" thick walls. I dropped our rudder several years ago and I'd estimate it weighs around 125#, and a solid shaft of that size

Re: Stus-List Rudder Re-build/replacement

2012-10-22 Thread Rick Brass
The shaft on the original rudder for my 38 mk1 was 2" schedule 80 stainless tube (2 1/4 OD and wall thickness about 1/4", IIRC) It had a machined stainless plug welded into the top for the upper nut and the emergency tiller attachment. The replacement rudder is built on the shaft from a similar vi

Re: Stus-List Rudder Re-build/replacement

2012-10-22 Thread Ron Casciato
Alex. The rudder shaft on my 38mkIIC was solidincluding the welded blade, it took two people to move it around. Ron C Impromptu.38 MKIIC '77 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Alex Giannelia wrote: > For those who did a post mortem on their stainless steel shaft

Re: Stus-List Rudder Re-build/replacement

2012-10-22 Thread HONEYSAIL
Bill Ditto, Honey's rudder is the same and nearly neutral in the water.. Jack Fitzgerald C&C 39TM In a message dated 10/22/2012 7:01:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, colt...@verizon.net writes: I believe pretty much all the shafts were XX Strong SS Pipe. I redid mine a few times, (not t

Re: Stus-List Rudder Re-build/replacement

2012-10-22 Thread Bill Coleman
I believe pretty much all the shafts were XX Strong SS Pipe. I redid mine a few times, (not the shaft, the rudder) and they welded a solid bar onto the top of the pipe. Another fellow who used to be on the list (C&C 39) redid his with a Bob Perry design, looked nice. I think he had competetion comp

Re: Stus-List Deck Wax (was Deck Cleaning Help)

2012-10-22 Thread Bill Coleman
Woody Wax it intended for decks, I think. I bought some several years ago, but decided against using it because I was afraid it would be a problem when I re-paint - Not cheap, I guess I probably didn't have to say that, did I? http://www.woody-wax.com/fiberglass-non-skid-deck-wax.php

Re: Stus-List Deck Wax (was Deck Cleaning Help)

2012-10-22 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I used Sure Step on my old boat and I was happy with the results. Didn't have the boat that long so can't comment but I wax my car every year so I would think a yearly application is normal. Steve Toronto C&C 32 On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Wally Bryant wrote: > Aurora makes a wax for non-s

Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I second the recommendation for Bar Keeper's Friend. It cleans all sorts of stuff, rust and glue residue included. It can be used on a wide variety of surfaces so it's handy to have around in general. Steve Toronto C&C 32 On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:09 PM, wrote: > I just power washed my 16 year

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread Graham Collins
Nah, it is from when he turned on the Corbomite Device... that thing always causes print through! Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 Dennis C. wrote: The grid probably emerged when you overheated the dilithium crystals. Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Edd Sc

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread Dennis C.
The grid probably emerged when you overheated the dilithium crystals. Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Edd Schillay wrote: > Dennis, > > Never noticed it before Saturday -- could have been there all along. My > head was less than a foot away and it was probably

Re: Stus-List Baseball

2012-10-22 Thread Martin DeYoung
During last night's game they showed the boats in McCovey cove and a shot of a racing sailboat going upwind past the Presidio area. It looked like typical Bay area sailing conditions, a #3, full main and current enhanced chop. Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle -Original Message- From:

Re: Stus-List Baseball

2012-10-22 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Well, I can see sailboats on the river from the St. Louis Arch.And I'm a St. Louis Cardinals fan!Go Cards!RonSTL --- On Mon, 10/22/12, dwight veinot wrote: From: dwight veinot Subject: Stus-List Baseball To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Monday, October 22, 2012, 1:37 PM I've been cheering for

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread Edd Schillay
Dennis, Never noticed it before Saturday -- could have been there all along. My head was less than a foot away and it was probably only visible because the way the light was hitting it. But, for those on the list who thought it had something to do with the holodeck or transpor

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread Ken Heaton
Hi Edd, Our hull is painted dark blue and you can see a little of the grid pattern in places. You have to look just so, usually from below when the boat is out of the water. I can't see it in the summer when the boat is in. Ken H. On 22 October 2012 13:45, Edd Schillay wrote: > Listers, > >

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread Dennis C.
Edd, If the pattern is a square weave of approx 1/4" threads, then it's the roving showing through the gel coat and skin out (matte) coat due to post-cure shrinkage. It's cosmetic. Too bad we couldn't look at it at Mystic. Could have told you for sure. What many don't know is our plastic bo

Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread cenelson
I just power washed my 16 year old deck and it cleaned up easily. ? OTOH, I am looking at pretty 'flat white' (non-painted) gel-coat. ? Also, I need to redo my non-skid for the 2nd time soon, probably with the Kiwi stuff which was well reviewed by Practical Sailor recently. ? Ideally this will be

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
...or was it burn in left over from your holodeck? -- Original Message -- From: William Hall To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:11:23 -0400 Might be from poor calibration of your teleporter. Bill O

Re: Stus-List Deck Wax (was Deck Cleaning Help)

2012-10-22 Thread Wally Bryant
Aurora makes a wax for non-skid, called Sure Step. I tried it once -- can't remember the year but it was a long time ago. It worked *great* but didn't last more than a year. The major caveat: My old gelcoat sucked that stuff up like a sponge, and I went through an unbelievable amount of it,

Stus-List Baseball

2012-10-22 Thread dwight veinot
I've been cheering for the Giants ever since the days of Mays, McCovey, Cepeda and Marichal..most years there's not much to cheer about but for the last couple of years and especially tonight there is...so go Giants go!!! They do play on the Bay sort of, McCovey Cove for example, so this is sort of

Stus-List Rudder Re-build/replacement

2012-10-22 Thread Alex Giannelia
For those who did a post mortem on their stainless steel shafts, were they hollow or solid? ALEX GIANNELIA Phone (416) 203-9858 Fax (416) 203-9843 Cell (416) 529-0070 email: a...@airsensing.com WEB: www.airsensing.com ___ This List is pr

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread Chris Duer
If its 2" x 3" then it's likely core print and has been there for quite some time, just not noticed. If you're going to get print (especially core) it will happen in the first year the boat sees the sun. Unless, of course, it's a white boat that gets painted a dark color later in life. Then

Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread Alan Paul
Everyone, I do have another question.  Do any of you use a wax or something similar on the non-skid to seal it and make it easier to clean?  Is there anything that prevents it from being slippery? Alan Paul Allegra  C&C 37 Channel Islands, CA From: Alan Bergen

Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread Alan Bergen
As the gel coat wears away, you can start to see the fiberglass fibers. Matte would have a random pattern. Since it's a grid, it sounds like roving, which is the glass layer that is usually laid up on top of the layer of matte (for strength). Did your boat ever have any fiberglass repair done to

Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread Alan Bergen
To remove tape residue, I use 3M All Purpose Adhesive Cleaner. Spray on; wipe off. It's that easy . Alan Bergen C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR - Original Message - ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread Edd Schillay
Very possible. It's not often that I get my face so close to the side. David Risch -- thanks. That's what I thought, but wanted to be sure. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37/40+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Isla

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread William Hall
I wonder whether it could be the core printing through. Is it possible it was there before and you didn't notice it? On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Edd Schillay wrote: > Maybe 2" by 3". Looks like something that was used in the construction of > the boat. > > All the best, > > Edd > > > Edd

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread David Risch
It is probably Fiberglass mat "print-thru". It is noticeable on my blue awlgripped hull. Surveyor said it was part of the post-mold curing process and was not to be worried about. When I paint the hull again it will go away. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) 1981 40-2 From: e...@schillay

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread Edd Schillay
Maybe 2" by 3". Looks like something that was used in the construction of the boat. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37/40+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Webs

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread William Hall
Might be from poor calibration of your teleporter. Bill On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Edd Schillay wrote: > Listers, > > We hauled the Enterprise Saturday afternoon (so sad) and once everything > was settled, I could see a visible "grid" on the starboard side of the hull > above the waterli

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread Richard N. Bush
I can't visualize a grid, could you send a photo? Thanks Richard Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor Louisville, Kentucky 40202 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: HONEYSAIL To: cnc-list Sent: Mon, Oct 22, 2012 12:49 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Visibl

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread HONEYSAIL
I would be worried... In a message dated 10/22/2012 12:48:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, joel.aron...@gmail.com writes: How big were the rectangles? Joel Aronson On Oct 22, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Edd Schillay <_edd@schillay.com_ (mailto:e...@schillay.com) > wrote: Listers, We haul

Re: Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread Joel Aronson
How big were the rectangles? Joel Aronson On Oct 22, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Edd Schillay wrote: Listers, We hauled the Enterprise Saturday afternoon (so sad) and once everything was settled, I could see a visible "grid" on the starboard side of the hull above the waterline, 3 feet tall and about

Stus-List Visible "grid" on the side of my C&C 37+

2012-10-22 Thread Edd Schillay
Listers, We hauled the Enterprise Saturday afternoon (so sad) and once everything was settled, I could see a visible "grid" on the starboard side of the hull above the waterline, 3 feet tall and about 6 feet wide. Should I be worried? All the best, Ed

Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread Tim Goodyear
Has anyone has any success in slowing down the appearance of the brown stains on topsides? Does wax, super poly glo or new, less porous paint make any difference? I tried Awlcare (the Awlgrip cleaner / protector this year), but it didn't seem to help much. Thanks, Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Bra

Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
I got some sponge things from the Boston boat show this year. They are white and blue. I can't remember the name but I'll check this weekend when I go down to the boat. I had my doubts but the removed all kinds of stuff, rust stains included, even on the no-skid surface. They do have a very

Re: Stus-List Miscellaneous -impeller

2012-10-22 Thread RAYMOND SHIBE
Looks like a wierd starfish too. Ray Shibe On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Rick Brass wrote: I hate it when the calamari gets overcooked and tastes like deep fried rubber bands. Rick Brass Washington, NC ___ This List is provided by the C&C Phot

Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread dwight veinot
I understand that rust stains and those brown stains we see just above the water line, at least we get them here in St. Margaret's Bay, are actually very fine particulates in nature and these small particles penetrate into the gel coat or paint. Getting rid of them requires more than elbow grease.

Re: Stus-List New sail purchase - 2 or 3 sail program?

2012-10-22 Thread Rick Brass
On my 38 mk1, it’s just over 2 ft 4 in on the LP – call it 2 ½ ft on the foot of the sail. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:18 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-L

Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread Wally Bryant
Liz - For the rust rings, try FSR (Fiberglass Stain Remover) from Davis Instruments. Google it for a million sources. I had always assumed it was just Oxalic Acid thickened up a bit, but there must be something else in there as it works a lot better than an Oxalic Acid paste. I just tried it

Re: Stus-List Miscellaneous -impeller

2012-10-22 Thread Rick Brass
I hate it when the calamari gets overcooked and tastes like deep fried rubber bands. Rick Brass Washington, NC -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 5:12 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re

Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Fountain
Liz, Try Goo Gone - its worked for me even on duct tape residue. Also who is the culprit - I am in the area and want to be sure I don't use him! (Off list if you prefer) From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Liz Mather Sent: October-22-12 2:36 AM To: cnc-li

Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread Gary Nylander
Try Goof Off. At any grocery or hardware store. It will remove the tape glue residue. Takes some rubbing, but it worked for me. Gary Maryland - Original Message - From: Liz Mather To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 2:36 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Deck Cle

Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread dwight veinot
Liz There are lots of good inexpensive rust stain removers to choose from.solutions containing, oxalic acid and/ or phosphoric acid work well, or a solution of 15% hydrochloric (muriatic) acid in water also works well. Neither will hurt your deck. Around here we can get a no name toilet bowl c

Re: Stus-List Deck Cleaning Help

2012-10-22 Thread gbraun223
A cleanser called Bar Keepers Friend might do the job. It comes in a powder or a liquid. Does a good job on rust on stainless. George Braun former Quicksilver owner C&C 38 - Original Message - From: "Liz Mather" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 2: