Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-24 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk
On 01/21/2018 01:25 PM, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: So, I picked up (and I did just carry it into the house, and now I hurt) a Microvax II from another list member yesterday. OK, the top PSU of the pair in this machine appears to be healthy. The bottom one, however, sits at around 2.5V

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-23 Thread allison via cctalk
On 01/23/2018 07:58 PM, Jules Richardson via cctech wrote: > On 01/22/2018 02:05 PM, allison via cctech wrote: >> >> >> On 1/22/18 2:18 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctech wrote: >>> I can't believe you 'just carry it into the house' all by yourself, >>> unless you are professional athlete. >>> I also ha

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-23 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk
On 01/22/2018 02:05 PM, allison via cctech wrote: On 1/22/18 2:18 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctech wrote: I can't believe you 'just carry it into the house' all by yourself, unless you are professional athlete. I also have a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box and it has wheels for a reason! The

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-23 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
On 1/23/2018 7:58 PM, Jules Richardson via cctech wrote: On 01/22/2018 02:05 PM, allison via cctech wrote: On 1/22/18 2:18 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctech wrote: I can't believe you 'just carry it into the house' all by yourself, unless you are professional athlete. I also have a MicroVax II in

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-23 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk
On 01/22/2018 08:07 AM, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: At this stage I've got no idea if it's a SMPSU or a linear (I've not popped the panel off)... I suppose if it's linear then it perhaps doesn't even need a load to do its thing. If it's a switcher then I expect it'll at least need something

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-22 Thread allison via cctalk
On 1/22/18 2:18 PM, Douglas Taylor via cctech wrote: I can't believe you 'just carry it into the house' all by yourself, unless you are professional athlete. I also have a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box and it has wheels for a reason!  The damn thing weighs 130 lbs! I took it to the VCF E

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-22 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
I can't believe you 'just carry it into the house' all by yourself, unless you are professional athlete. I also have a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box and it has wheels for a reason!  The damn thing weighs 130 lbs! I took it to the VCF East last year, never do that again.  Too heavy. When I

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-22 Thread allison via cctalk
On 1/22/18 8:43 AM, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: On 01/21/2018 04:04 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: You might find that the filter capacitor goes up in smoke soon after you connect the PSU to the mains, even without powering it on. Yes, Adrian Graham mentioned that (via FB), too. I seem to hav

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-22 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 01/22/2018 07:43 AM, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: On 01/21/2018 04:04 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: You might find that the filter capacitor goes up in smoke soon after you connect the PSU to the mains, even without powering it on. Yes, Adrian Graham mentioned that (via FB), too. I seem to

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-22 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
>At this stage I've got no idea if it's a SMPSU or a linear (I've not popped the panel off)... I suppose if it's linear then it perhaps doesn't even need a load to do its thing. If it's a switcher then I expect it'll at least need something on +5V, and maybe +12V too (unless it has built-in load re

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-22 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk
On 01/21/2018 04:04 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: You might find that the filter capacitor goes up in smoke soon after you connect the PSU to the mains, even without powering it on. Yes, Adrian Graham mentioned that (via FB), too. I seem to have extremely good luck with the RF filter caps, unlike oth

RE: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-21 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: Jules Richardson Subject: Re: Microvax II 'primer'? On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Warner Losh mailto:i...@bsdimp.com> > wrote: On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classic

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-21 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jules >> > Richardson via cctalk >> > S

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-21 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jules > > Richardson via cctalk > > Sent: 21 January 2018 19:26 > > To: xx Classiccmp mailing list > > Su

RE: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-21 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jules > Richardson via cctalk > Sent: 21 January 2018 19:26 > To: xx Classiccmp mailing list > Subject: Microvax II 'primer'? > > > So, I picked up (and I did just carry it into the house, and now I

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-21 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: > > So, I picked up (and I did just carry it into the house, and now I hurt) a > Microvax II from another list member yesterday. Cosmetically it's a disaster > (BA123 has a cracked top panel, broken wheels, missing front door, mi

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-21 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 01/21/2018 01:25 PM, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: So, I picked up (and I did just carry it into the house, and now I hurt) a Microvax II from another list member yesterday. Cosmetically it's a disaster (BA123 has a cracked top panel, broken wheels, missing front door, missing right-

RE: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-25 Thread Rob Jarratt
> > Unfortunately I spoke too soon. When I tested it again a bit more > extensively, it suddenly stopped working. I am going to have to solder in > some wires to pins 2 and 3 and see if that helps. > Removing and then resoldering J3 (the smaller of the two ribbon cable connectors) seems to ha

RE: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-25 Thread Rob Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ethan > Dicks > Sent: 25 August 2016 18:12 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Character

Re: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-25 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > Just a bit more info on this. > > I tried cleaning up the corrosion, and that briefly seemed to make a > difference, but then I realised the problem persisted. I looked again and > realised that the corrosion around the DE-9 pins was a bit bad.

RE: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-25 Thread Rob Jarratt
> It turns out the problem was the cab kit. I replaced it with a spare and the > machine worked great. On closer inspection I found some corrosion and > possible evidence of a previous battery leak, so I am going to take it apart, > check it and clean it up. > > The other thing that made me susp

Re: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-25 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 4:08 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > It turns out the problem was the cab kit. I replaced it with a spare and the > machine worked great. On closer inspection I found some corrosion and > possible evidence of a previous battery leak, so I am going to take it > apart, check it and

RE: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-25 Thread Rob Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Koning [mailto:paulkon...@comcast.net] > Sent: 24 August 2016 17:59 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters > > > > On Aug 24,

Re: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/24/2016 11:05 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote: Well, it does "lose" characters. It seems to be that after a short burst of characters it just gives up and I don't see anymore characters for a while, then it will show a few more after a bit of a pause (but not always). Hmmm, that sounds like possibl

Re: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-24 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 24, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > >> Incidentally, the terminal and the machine *were* plugged into different >> sockets, but now they are connected to the same wall socket and the >> problem persists. >> > > > Actually, since connecting terminal and machine to the same wal

RE: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-24 Thread Rob Jarratt
> Incidentally, the terminal and the machine *were* plugged into different > sockets, but now they are connected to the same wall socket and the > problem persists. > Actually, since connecting terminal and machine to the same wall socket, the garbling seems to have much reduced, but I do get lo

RE: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-24 Thread Rob Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mouse > Sent: 24 August 2016 16:35 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters > > >> I have a MicroVAX II which has started gar

Re: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/24/2016 10:34 AM, Mouse wrote: I have a MicroVAX II which has started garbling and losing characters output to the console. [...] Iâ??ve seen similar with under two occasions. [...] Furthermore, "garbling" is horribly imprecise. And, of course, you should make sure it is not the termin

Re: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/24/2016 09:53 AM, Jerry Weiss wrote: On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote: I have a MicroVAX II which has started garbling and losing characters output to the console. It had seemed that re-seating the processor board would fix it, but that no longer seems to be the case. I w

Re: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-24 Thread Mouse
>> I have a MicroVAX II which has started garbling and losing >> characters output to the console. [...] > Iâ??ve seen similar with under two occasions. [...] Furthermore, "garbling" is horribly imprecise. If certain characters always get corrupted, and a given character always gets corrupted

Re: MicroVAX II Console Garbling Characters

2016-08-24 Thread Jerry Weiss
> > On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > > I have a MicroVAX II which has started garbling and losing characters output > to the console. It had seemed that re-seating the processor board would fix > it, but that no longer seems to be the case. > > > > I was just wondering if any

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-21 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 8/20/2016 10:35 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Douglas Taylor wrote: When I started this I hadn't put the RQDX2 back in, so I had only one UDA controller and that's how I saw the DHV11 show up. When I put the RQDX2 back in that's when I lost the DHV11. I did the conf

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-21 Thread Jerry Weiss
> On Aug 20, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Douglas Taylor wrote: >> > > When I started this I hadn't put the RQDX2 back in, so I had only one UDA > controller and that's how I saw the DHV11 show up. When I put the RQDX2 back > in that's when I lost the DHV11. > > I did the configure from VMS 5.5, it wa

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-20 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 8/19/2016 6:49 PM, Glen Slick wrote: Device,Number? dhv11,1 Device,Number? tqk50,1 Device,Number? rqdx3,1 Device,Number? exit Address/Vector Assignments -772150/154 RQDX3 -774500/260 TQK50 -760440/300 DHV11 configure Enter device configuration, HELP, or EXIT Device,Number? dhv11,1 Device,

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-19 Thread Glen Slick
On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > It is the World Box, BA123 and I have hardware manuals that came with the > MVII. > When I got it this was the configuration: > Slot 1 - CPU > Slot 2 - Memory > Slot 3 - Bus Grant Card M9047 > Slot 4 - DHV11 > Slot 5 - TQK50 (upper) M9047

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-19 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 8/19/2016 4:55 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: Yes, it is an MSCP disk controller, and it seems to work OK. I boot from it and the CSR is at the standard 1st address, it is connected to a SCSI2SD board. I think you have a good point about CSR addresses. There is a CONFIGURE tool that tells y

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/19/2016 12:36 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: The MicroVax II is about 30 years old, should I suspect the backplane? How do you clean it? Should I try another CPU card? My cobbled-together uVAX-II ran continuously from 1986 to 2007. Sometime in the late 1990s, it started to get flaky. I

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-19 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 8/19/2016 12:19 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Douglas Taylor wrote: ... It is the World Box, BA123 and I have hardware manuals that came with the MVII. When I got it this was the configuration: Slot 1 - CPU Slot 2 - Memory Slot 3 - Bus Grant Card M9047 Slot 4 - DHV11

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-19 Thread Douglas Taylor
Yes, it is an MSCP disk controller, and it seems to work OK. I boot from it and the CSR is at the standard 1st address, it is connected to a SCSI2SD board. I think you have a good point about CSR addresses. There is a CONFIGURE tool that tells you what set the addresses to for a particular

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 19, 2016, at 2:55 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > On 8/19/2016 12:19 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >>> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Douglas Taylor wrote: >>> ... >>> It is the World Box, BA123 and I have hardware manuals that came with the >>> MVII. >>> When I got it this was the config

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-19 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 8/18/2016 5:12 PM, Adrian Graham wrote: On 18/08/2016 04:37, "Douglas Taylor" wrote: I've brought up a MicroVax II and installed VMS 5.5-2 on a SCSI2SD disk and it is fun to work with. (I also installed openvms 7.2 without much drama) The problem I am having is that is has a TK50 tape dri

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-19 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 8/19/2016 6:04 AM, Peter Coghlan wrote: [snip] Device Device Error Name Status Count MPA0: Offline 0 PTA0: Online 1 PUA0: Online 1 PUB0:

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > >> ... > It is the World Box, BA123 and I have hardware manuals that came with the > MVII. > When I got it this was the configuration: > Slot 1 - CPU > Slot 2 - Memory > Slot 3 - Bus Grant Card M9047 > Slot 4 - DHV11 > Slot 5 - TQK50 (upp

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-19 Thread Adrian Graham
On 19/08/2016 09:56, "Peter Coghlan" wrote: >>> >>> Does Autogen recognize new hardware? >>> >> Yes, definitely. Some older devices have switches (or even >> soldered jumpers) to set the CSR address. If some of these >> are wrong, it could mess up the automatic address assignment >> of later

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-19 Thread Peter Coghlan
> > Does Autogen recognize new hardware? > Yes, definitely. Some older devices have switches (or even soldered jumpers) to set the CSR address. If some of these are wrong, it could mess up the automatic address assignment of later MSCP hardware. Not exactly. VMS automatically looks for a

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 18, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >> From: Paul Koning > >> A lot of Unibus/Qbus devices have "floating CSRs" which means they >> don't have fixed address assignments. Instead, the correct address is >> based on a set of rules, which puts devices in an ordered list and >> ass

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-19 Thread Peter Coghlan
[snip] Device Device Error Name Status Count MPA0: Offline 0 PTA0: Online 1 PUA0: Online 1 PUB0: Online 1 I sw

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/17/2016 10:37 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: I've brought up a MicroVax II and installed VMS 5.5-2 on a SCSI2SD disk and it is fun to work with. (I also installed openvms 7.2 without much drama) The problem I am having is that is has a TK50 tape drive and controller, but it never has shown

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-18 Thread Jerry Weiss
On Aug 17, 2016, at 10:37 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > I've brought up a MicroVax II and installed VMS 5.5-2 on a SCSI2SD disk and > it is fun to work with. (I also installed openvms 7.2 without much drama) > > The problem I am having is that is has a TK50 tape drive and controller, but > it

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-18 Thread Adrian Graham
On 18/08/2016 04:37, "Douglas Taylor" wrote: > I've brought up a MicroVax II and installed VMS 5.5-2 on a SCSI2SD disk > and it is fun to work with. (I also installed openvms 7.2 without much > drama) > > The problem I am having is that is has a TK50 tape drive and controller, > but it never ha

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-18 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 8/18/2016 4:39 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Paul Koning > A lot of Unibus/Qbus devices have "floating CSRs" which means they > don't have fixed address assignments. Instead, the correct address is > based on a set of rules, which puts devices in an ordered list and

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/18/2016 03:39 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Paul Koning > A lot of Unibus/Qbus devices have "floating CSRs" which means they > don't have fixed address assignments. Instead, the correct address is > based on a set of rules, which puts devices in an ordered list and

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-18 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Paul Koning > A lot of Unibus/Qbus devices have "floating CSRs" which means they > don't have fixed address assignments. Instead, the correct address is > based on a set of rules, which puts devices in an ordered list and > assigns addresses in sequence. .. If you get t

Re: Microvax II hardware not recognized

2016-08-18 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > I've brought up a MicroVax II and installed VMS 5.5-2 on a SCSI2SD disk and > it is fun to work with. (I also installed openvms 7.2 without much drama) > > The problem I am having is that is has a TK50 tape drive and controller, but >

RE: MicroVax II update

2016-08-06 Thread Dave Wade
> > > > > > Is it possible to use the SCSI2SD on a microPDP-11 under RT-11? I ask > because of the disk size limit under RT-11. I believe so. It can be configured to look like several disks <1Gb for this reason. > > > > Doug > > Dave

Re: MicroVax II update

2016-08-05 Thread Jerry Weiss
> On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:24 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > On 8/5/2016 6:18 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: >> On Aug 5, 2016, at 3:48 PM, dersc...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 5, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: Progress on getting the MVII up and running: I ordered the SCSI2S

Re: MicroVax II update

2016-08-05 Thread Josh Dersch
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > On 8/5/2016 4:48 PM, dersc...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> On Aug 5, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Douglas Taylor >>> wrote: >>> >>> Progress on getting the MVII up and running: >>> >>> I ordered the SCSI2SD adapter and it has come in, the plan is to use i

Re: MicroVax II update

2016-08-05 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 8/5/2016 6:18 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: On Aug 5, 2016, at 3:48 PM, dersc...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 5, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: Progress on getting the MVII up and running: I ordered the SCSI2SD adapter and it has come in, the plan is to use it as the system disk on the MVII.

Re: MicroVax II update

2016-08-05 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 8/5/2016 4:48 PM, dersc...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 5, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: Progress on getting the MVII up and running: I ordered the SCSI2SD adapter and it has come in, the plan is to use it as the system disk on the MVII. The hobbyist VMS PAKS have arrived and I was

Re: MicroVax II update

2016-08-05 Thread Jerry Weiss
On Aug 5, 2016, at 3:48 PM, dersc...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Aug 5, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: >> >> Progress on getting the MVII up and running: >> >> I ordered the SCSI2SD adapter and it has come in, the plan is to use it as >> the system disk on the MVII. >> >> The hobbyist V

Re: MicroVax II update

2016-08-05 Thread derschjo
> On Aug 5, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > Progress on getting the MVII up and running: > > I ordered the SCSI2SD adapter and it has come in, the plan is to use it as > the system disk on the MVII. > > The hobbyist VMS PAKS have arrived and I was able to download the VMS 7.3 >

Re: MicroVax II

2016-08-03 Thread Glen Slick
On Aug 3, 2016 3:10 AM, "Peter Coghlan" wrote: > > > > > Also, the built in SCSI on a VAX 3100 doesn't support drives over 1GB. > > > > That's not quite correct. > Yeah, more details than I could be 100% accurate about off the top of my head and had the patience to type with one thumb. The only

Re: MicroVax II

2016-08-03 Thread Peter Coghlan
> > Also, the built in SCSI on a VAX 3100 doesn't support drives over 1GB. > That's not quite correct. The firmware on VAXstation 3100 and early MicroVAX 3100 machines has issues addressing directly attached SCSI disks larger than 1.073GB for booting and doing system dumps only. The issues can

Re: MicroVax II

2016-08-02 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/29/2016 10:55 PM, Glen Slick wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: I just got a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box chassis. I has a TK50, RX50, RXDQ2, but no DEQNA. I'd like to get it running an OS. The DU disks don't work, but I have a couple of Qbus SCSI contro

Re: MicroVax II

2016-08-02 Thread Glen Slick
On Aug 2, 2016 7:50 PM, "Douglas Taylor" wrote: > > I had 3 different types of SCSI CDROM's and none of them worked, they are DEC RRD42, Toshiba and a Sony. > The DEC was dead, removed the drive and applied power that I know is good (from a PC power supply in a working PC) > and nothing, no led, n

Re: MicroVax II

2016-08-02 Thread Steven M Jones
On 08/02/2016 19:49, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > I had 3 different types of SCSI CDROM's and none of them worked [...] > Is there a SCSI CDROM to look for? That's unfortunate. The DEC badged drives would be ideal, but you should be good with Sun-, HP- or SGI-badged drives, or Plextor and Toshiba dr

Re: MicroVax II

2016-08-01 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/29/2016 10:30 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: On Jul 29, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Zane Healy wrote: On Jul 29, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: I just got a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box chassis. I has a TK50, RX50, RXDQ2, but no DEQNA. I'd like to get it running an OS. The DU disks do

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-08-01 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 8/1/2016 11:26 AM, John H. Reinhardt wrote: On 7/31/2016 10:38 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: That sounds good. BTW, where do I go to get the VMS hobbyist license PAKS and downloads? I'm running into dead links. Doug Things recently (last few months) changed and the OpenVMS Hobbyist license

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-08-01 Thread John H. Reinhardt
On 7/31/2016 10:38 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: That sounds good. BTW, where do I go to get the VMS hobbyist license PAKS and downloads? I'm running into dead links. Doug Things recently (last few months) changed and the OpenVMS Hobbyist licenses are now handled by the HPE office in India. T

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread william degnan
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > On 7/31/2016 10:35 PM, william degnan wrote: > >> I have the multinet install on a SCSI vax expansion hard drive on my 3100, >> I have a way to use this on someone's main system, to install it. Clunky >> but it works. I also have the pro

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/31/2016 10:35 PM, william degnan wrote: I have the multinet install on a SCSI vax expansion hard drive on my 3100, I have a way to use this on someone's main system, to install it. Clunky but it works. I also have the process documented. Bill That sounds good. BTW, where do I go to get

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread william degnan
I have the multinet install on a SCSI vax expansion hard drive on my 3100, I have a way to use this on someone's main system, to install it. Clunky but it works. I also have the process documented. Bill

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/31/2016 3:58 PM, Steven M Jones wrote: On 07/31/2016 11:27, Douglas Taylor wrote: On 7/31/2016 2:44 AM, Graham Reid wrote: They were just networked, it wasn't a cluster. Do you remember if the networking software was part of VMS 5.5 or was it a third party? I seem to remember third party

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/31/2016 5:40 PM, william degnan wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Steven M Jones wrote: On 07/31/2016 11:27, Douglas Taylor wrote: On 7/31/2016 2:44 AM, Graham Reid wrote: They were just networked, it wasn't a cluster. Do you remember if the networking software was part of VMS 5.

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread william degnan
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Steven M Jones wrote: > On 07/31/2016 11:27, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > On 7/31/2016 2:44 AM, Graham Reid wrote: > >> > >> They were just networked, it wasn't a cluster. > > > > Do you remember if the networking software was part of VMS 5.5 or was it > > a third pa

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread Steven M Jones
On 07/31/2016 11:27, Douglas Taylor wrote: > On 7/31/2016 2:44 AM, Graham Reid wrote: >> >> They were just networked, it wasn't a cluster. > > Do you remember if the networking software was part of VMS 5.5 or was it > a third party? I seem to remember third party TCPIP software, > Multiware, etc.

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread william degnan
> > > Graham; > > Do you remember if the networking software was part of VMS 5.5 or was it a third party? I seem to remember third party TCPIP software, Multiware, etc. > > Doug > MULTINET is what I think you mean. B

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/31/2016 2:44 AM, Graham Reid wrote: The company I worked for in 1989 had three hand-me-down MicroVax II from the US parent. They were originally a PDP11/73 box, which had been converted. They ran VMS 5.5-2, all had DEQNA, with no problems that I remember. They were just networked, it wasn'

re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-30 Thread Graham Reid
The company I worked for in 1989 had three hand-me-down MicroVax II from the US parent. They were originally a PDP11/73 box, which had been converted. They ran VMS 5.5-2, all had DEQNA, with no problems that I remember. They were just networked, it wasn't a cluster. The DEQNA may have been *unsup

Re: DEQNA and VMS 5, was Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/30/2016 9:25 PM, Steven M Jones wrote: On 07/29/2016 19:30, Jerry Weiss wrote: Note that DEQNA will not work (at all) on either version. You’ll need a DELQA. On 07/30/2016 08:50, Paul Koning wrote: Yes, VMS stopped supporting the QNA at some point because, even after 12 ECOs, it could not

DEQNA and VMS 5, was Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Steven M Jones
On 07/29/2016 19:30, Jerry Weiss wrote: > > Note that DEQNA will not work (at all) on either version. > You’ll need a DELQA. On 07/30/2016 08:50, Paul Koning wrote: > > Yes, VMS stopped supporting the QNA at some point because, even > after 12 ECOs, it could not be made to work properly. If I >

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Sat, 30 Jul 2016, Greg Stark wrote: > The hardest part was getting mopd on Linux to serve up the NetBSD boot > loader properly. The mopd for Linux didn't support ELF images and the > NetBSD boot loader isn't in mopd format in more recent versions of > NetBSD like it was in older versions. Now i

Netbooting NetBSD/vax - was Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Toby Thain
On 2016-07-30 12:09 PM, Greg Stark wrote: On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 2:38 AM, Mouse wrote: What OS's can I use with this hardware? NetBSD? Yes. Recent (and some not-so-recent) versions are broken, in that they can't self-host; as far as I know nobody knows exactly what's wrong. My impression

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Greg Stark
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Greg Stark wrote: > headaches. Even the GCC in 6.1.5 is a bit buggy. I had to recompile > awk with -O0 or else various s/$/ configure scripts failed./ -- greg

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Greg Stark
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 2:38 AM, Mouse wrote: >> What OS's can I use with this hardware? NetBSD? > > Yes. Recent (and some not-so-recent) versions are broken, in that they > can't self-host; as far as I know nobody knows exactly what's wrong. > My impression (as someone who hasn't tried it, but

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Jerry Weiss
On Jul 30, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > On 7/29/2016 10:30 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: >> On Jul 29, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Zane Healy wrote: >>> On Jul 29, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: I just got a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box chassis. I has a TK50, >>

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Zane Healy
> On Jul 30, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > I agree, I remember using a MicroVax II in the BA123 box back in the mid > 1980's and wanted to have one and now I do. > > The only thing I forgot was just how heavy the damn thing is! > > I just looked and here is what I have: > > VMS

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/30/2016 11:50 AM, Paul Koning wrote: On Jul 29, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: ... I have booted both V7.3 and V5.5-2 off a 4GB SD with SCSI2SD V4.6 on a MicroVax II with 16 Mb. Note that DEQNA will not work (at all) on either version. You’ll need a DELQA. Yes, VMS stopped s

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Zane Healy
> On Jul 30, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > I have a couple of Viking (TD Systems) scsi controllers which is what I am > thinking of using. I have some S-Box SCSI controllers then may come in handy. > > I like the idea of VMS 5.5 just to restore the system back to its former > g

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/29/2016 10:55 PM, Glen Slick wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: I just got a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box chassis. I has a TK50, RX50, RXDQ2, but no DEQNA. I'd like to get it running an OS. The DU disks don't work, but I have a couple of Qbus SCSI contro

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jul 29, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: > > ... > I have booted both V7.3 and V5.5-2 off a 4GB SD with SCSI2SD V4.6 on a > MicroVax II with 16 Mb. Note that DEQNA will not work (at all) on either > version. You’ll need a DELQA. Yes, VMS stopped supporting the QNA at some point

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/29/2016 10:30 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote: On Jul 29, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Zane Healy wrote: On Jul 29, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: I just got a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box chassis. I has a TK50, RX50, RXDQ2, but no DEQNA. I'd like to get it running an OS. The DU disks do

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-30 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/29/2016 9:30 PM, Zane Healy wrote: On Jul 29, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: I just got a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box chassis. I has a TK50, RX50, RXDQ2, but no DEQNA. I'd like to get it running an OS. The DU disks don't work, but I have a couple of Qbus SCSI controller

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-29 Thread Jarratt RMA
> > On 30 July 2016 at 02:30 Zane Healy wrote: > > > > > On Jul 29, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Douglas Taylor > > wrote: > > > > I just got a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box chassis. I has a TK50, > > RX50, RXDQ2, but no DEQNA. I'd like to get it running an OS. > > >

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-29 Thread Zane Healy
> On Jul 29, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > What OS's can I use with this hardware? NetBSD? Are versions of VMS > available? How do you get an OS onto this system? By the way, from an educational standpoint, this is a very good system to run VMS on, if you’re looking to learn

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-29 Thread Glen Slick
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > I just got a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box chassis. I has a TK50, > RX50, RXDQ2, but no DEQNA. I'd like to get it running an OS. > > The DU disks don't work, but I have a couple of Qbus SCSI controllers that > might come in handy. > >

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-29 Thread Jerry Weiss
On Jul 29, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Zane Healy wrote: > > >> On Jul 29, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: >> >> I just got a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box chassis. I has a TK50, >> RX50, RXDQ2, but no DEQNA. I'd like to get it running an OS. >> >> The DU disks don't work, but I have a

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-29 Thread Mouse
> I just got a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box chassis. I has a > TK50, RX50, RXDQ2, but no DEQNA. I'd like to get it running an OS. > The DU disks don't work, but I have a couple of Qbus SCSI controllers > that might come in handy. Ooh, those are (my impression!) substantially rarer than DE

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-29 Thread Toby Thain
On 2016-07-29 9:08 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: I just got a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box chassis. I has a TK50, RX50, RXDQ2, but no DEQNA. I'd like to get it running an OS. The DU disks don't work, but I have a couple of Qbus SCSI controllers that might come in handy. Can you use those SD

Re: MicroVax II

2016-07-29 Thread Zane Healy
> On Jul 29, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > I just got a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box chassis. I has a TK50, RX50, > RXDQ2, but no DEQNA. I'd like to get it running an OS. > > The DU disks don't work, but I have a couple of Qbus SCSI controllers that > might come in handy

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