[ccp4bb] off topic Thermal shift assay

2012-07-19 Thread anita p
Hi All, I want to use a thermofluor for the thermal shift assay. My proteins are cytoplasmic truncations of membrane protein. I have read about ANS, sypro-orange and CPM. Which is the once that is popularly used by the crystallographers for condition optimization for crystallization ?? I have read

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic Thermal shift assay

2012-07-19 Thread Hüsnü Topal
Dear Anita, here is a link to a talk with recommended literature: http://thermofluor.org/resources/Maksel_Protein-Stability.pdf. Probably, you will find there the answers you need. I recommend to try several dyes if available, due to the different behaviour of proteins and no general rule for

Re: [ccp4bb] peptide fragment

2012-07-19 Thread Boaz Shaanan
Hi, The closest example I can think of is the extra density that was found in the groove of the MHC class I structure (Bjorkman et al., long time ago) which turned out to be a peptide that was co-purified. As we all know, it turned out to be one of the major findings of this study as it pointed

[ccp4bb] question about DM

2012-07-19 Thread Vellieux Frederic
Hi all, Just a (naive?) question: how does one manage to introduce (and deal with) improper non-crystallographic symmetry in DM ? Or does one has to go to DMmulti for that (because, by definition, going from one crystal form to another crystal form is improper NCS) ? Ta, F. Vellieux

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic Thermal shift assay

2012-07-19 Thread Bosch, Juergen
If you have a CD available (not the one with music on it) you don't need a dye just sufficient protein and you can thermal denature your protein assuming it contains some secondary structure elements. Jürgen On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:26 AM, anita p wrote: Hi All, I want to use a thermofluor for t

Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding refinement in Refmac5

2012-07-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
It isn't that your space group is wrong, but are you sure that your mtz file has that space group in its header? MR will test all possible alternatives - in this case P3121 or P3221 - but won't change the symmetry information in the input mtz. You need to do that with a utility like mtzutils h

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic Thermal shift assay

2012-07-19 Thread Edwin Pozharski
My understanding is that the advantage of the thermofluor assay is that you can test many conditions rapidly unless of course you have some kind of high throughput CD spectrometer in mind. > If you have a CD available (not the one with music on it) you don't need a > dye just sufficient protein

Re: [ccp4bb] peptide fragment

2012-07-19 Thread John Hinks
Hi Leonard, I would treat this like a MS/MS ion search experiment looking for the peptide via MASCOT or similar. Talk to some local Mass Spec people, I'm certain they could identify it and then you'd be closer to an explanation. John. Dr. John Hinks Syngenta Jealott's Hill International Res

[ccp4bb] CCP4 Fukuoka workshop 29 Oct - 2 Nov 2012

2012-07-19 Thread Charles Ballard
Dear All, We are pleased to announce the CCP4 Fukuoka Workshop. All details can be found at http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/schools/Japan-2012/ Title: "CCP4 Fukuoka school: From data processing to structure refinement and beyond" Dates: October 29 to November 2. Site: Biomedical Research Station, Kyushu

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic Thermal shift assay

2012-07-19 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Yes that is very true. But I assume true membrane proteins exclude high throughput :-) However the cytoplasmic part might be fine in this case and then I would just go for Sypro Orange. Jürgen On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Edwin Pozharski wrote: My understanding is that the advantage of the

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic Thermal shift assay

2012-07-19 Thread Dr. Lorenzo Finci
Anita, In terms of the basics:Thermodynamic stability of a protein is related to Gibbs Free Energy of unfolding. The Gibbs Free Energy is made of temperature, enthalpy and entropy (Delta G = Delta H - T Delta S). At Delta G equivalent to zero, the concentration of folded protein is equivalent

[ccp4bb] aimless, anisotropy, and resolution cutoff?

2012-07-19 Thread vincent Chaptal
Dear all, I'm dealing with anisotropic diffraction of a membrane protein. I've read from previous threads that it is better to not cut off any data, and that aimless doesn't anisotropically scale the data any way. So my question is: given my anisotropic diffraction, what resolution cutoff do i

Re: [ccp4bb] Stereo Microscope

2012-07-19 Thread Sampson, Jared
Our setup is an Olympus SZX-10 with both 1x and 2x objectives and 10x eyepieces. It's nice having the different objectives for different things--a close up look at a tiny crystal requires the 2x, but the 1x is less bulky and has better depth-of-field, so it's better for freezing crystals. The

Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding refinement in Refmac5

2012-07-19 Thread Deepthi
Hi Yes i did check my MTZ file header. It shows p3221. For the same reason i reprocessed the data again in both p3221, p3121 and p321. Except for p3221 none of the other space groups fit the model. The packing looks good and the map shows side chains very clearly. When i add the respective side ch

Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding refinement in Refmac5

2012-07-19 Thread Garib N Murshudov
1) Check free R flag. It may be related with free flag being 1 instead of 0. If it is the case then you can use newer version of refmac: http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/groups/murshudov/ or from ccp4 v 6.3 2) Try arp/warp Garib On 19 Jul 2012, at 18:29, Deepthi wrote: > Hi > > Yes i did check m

[ccp4bb] Protein concentration vs Molecular wt...

2012-07-19 Thread james09 pruza
Dear Crystallographers, Is there any rule of thumb for Protein concentration and molecular weight for crystallization trials of a soluble protein? Looking for high molecular wt. protein ~50kDa. James.

[ccp4bb] Local service for AKTA explorer in Maryland or east coast

2012-07-19 Thread Yong-Fu Li
Colleagues, Does anyone use a local service on an AKTA explorer (or other models) machine ideally in the east coast or in Maryland? GE Healthcare will stop supporting this model in a few years, and I am not sure if they are willing to cover an old machine. I remember someone recommended a local se

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration vs Molecular wt...

2012-07-19 Thread mjvdwoerd
I don't think there is such a rule, but in the old days, when we only had Hampton Screen I and II, the rule was: - Set up screen 1, look at the drops and you should expect some kind of precipitation in 50% of the drops. If much less than that, increase your protein concentration. If much more t

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration vs Molecular wt...

2012-07-19 Thread Roger Rowlett
This is almost exactly our basic approach, too. Before we got a dropsetter, we did 24 wells (1/2 screen) to get a feel for the correct protein concentration. Some additional rules of thumb we use: 1. We usually start at 10 mg/mL protein and go up or down from there depending on the results o

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration vs Molecular wt...

2012-07-19 Thread Tom Murray-Rust
Hi James, You can get the PCT (Pre-Crystallisation Test) from one of the more famous manufacturers of crystallography products - essentially you can quickly screen your protein to get an idea if it is too dilute, too concentrated, or somewhere in the middle. Of course, the results are representati

Re: [ccp4bb] aimless, anisotropy, and resolution cutoff?

2012-07-19 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Vincent, my advice is: if in doubt, scale at the highest of those resolution choices. This way you don't have to go back to scaling later. There is no harm in using the highest resolution. Don't let yourself be fooled by Rmerge. best, Kay On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:52:14 +0200, vincent Chaptal

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-19 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Narayan, there's nothing wrong with using data with I/sigmaI 2.5, Rsym 224.3 % for multiplicity 7.8 and completeness 98.2 %. However, when you discarded frames you might have made the data worse - one should only reject data if they deviate systematically (e.g. from radiation damage). Weak

Re: [ccp4bb] RE : [ccp4bb] Large unit cell, overlaps

2012-07-19 Thread Kay Diederichs
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:26:39 +, LEGRAND Pierre wrote: > Hi Jason, > > To answer your initial question about overlaps versus finer slicing, you can > get a good description of the problem in Fig10 > of Z. Dauter article "Data-collection strategies" (open access article here: > http://jou

Re: [ccp4bb] Large unit cell, overlaps

2012-07-19 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Jason, I looked at the part of FRAME.cbf you posted, and I'd say it looks ok (i.e. nothing to worry about). Some overlap of a reflection doesn't matter much; if its full profile is not available then INTEGRATE replaces the missing intensity by an estimate based on the known fraction of the

[ccp4bb] rigid body vs restrained refinement

2012-07-19 Thread Norman zhu
hello everyone I just noticed my model would give two very different Rfree values from refmac depending which mode I use to refine it. Rigid body it gives a Rfree value of 24.57% while restrained refinement gives a value of 27.96%. Both are processed at 3.1angstrom resolution. I am conf

[ccp4bb] Nucleophilic attack by the side-chain carboxyl group of Asp?

2012-07-19 Thread Crystal Xu
Hi everyone, I am studying the catalytic mechanism of an enzyme. My structural data indicates that an Asp is of most possibility to sever as a general base. The Asp residue is coordinated to a zinc ion. Would it be possible that the side-chain carboxyl group of Asp attacks a carbon atom of the sub

Re: [ccp4bb] rigid body vs restrained refinement

2012-07-19 Thread Pavel Afonine
Norman, the value of free-R alone doesn't tell a whole lot, though the numbers you quote seem good given the resolution. What's Rwork? The behavior of free-R you tell is also totally expected: in rigid-body refinement there are way less refinable parameters! Most likely you should proceed with ind