Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 6.0.99e test release

2008-11-04 Thread hari jayaram
Hello ccp4-ers I have been happily running ccp4-6.0.99e, which I self compiled on an Ubuntu 64bit ( Version 8.04) box Things have been going smoothly till I noticed a segmentation fault when I tried to get a postscript file using xplot84driver . The binary run from a shell and the ccp4i gui give

Re: [ccp4bb] pymol cartoon problem

2008-11-04 Thread Warren DeLano
Pramod, PyMOL is sensitive to residue numbering... set retain_order rebuild may help. Cheers, Warren P.S. The PyMOL mailing list can be found at: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=4546 From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals grown from high ammonium sulphate

2008-11-04 Thread Mark J. van Raaij
also, don't forget to measure at least one crystal at RT, probably most easily done in a Mitegen loop-and-sleeve - to have an idea of the intrinsic diffraction quality of the crystals without freezing. Mark Quoting Savvas Savvides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Dear Sabine, I recently dealt with a ver

Re: [ccp4bb] tricoordinated ion?

2008-11-04 Thread Roger Rowlett
Before jumping to any conclusions, you should definitely see what this density looks like without the water molecules in this portion of the model. I think it would be difficult to decide on what the actual "bond lengths" are without removing model bias. If you model with waters, of course the

Re: [ccp4bb] tricoordinated ion?

2008-11-04 Thread Klaus Piontek
Hi Sebastiano, I had similar experiences with various crystal structures. After a lot of modeling (albeit at about 1 A resolution) I came to the conclusion that these atoms correspond to disordered solvent molecules, e.g. water and/or Zn. In other words the atoms have occupancies of < 1, but i

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals grown from high ammonium sulphate

2008-11-04 Thread Savvas Savvides
Dear Sabine, I recently dealt with a very similar situation as follows: -I ended up growing the crystals in 4+4 uL drops. Skin formation tends to be less of a problem in larger drops. This kind of experimentation is of course only possible if protein production is not a limiting factor. -For cryst

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals grown from high ammonium sulphate

2008-11-04 Thread shiliang
You can try microseeding. It is really suitable for crystallization in high ammonium sulphate. I got a similar problem as well, before. Microseeding can supply nucleus. You can get more crystals and spend less time. And for the salt crystallization, I think if you transfer quickly it can be fine.

Re: [ccp4bb] tricoordinated ion?

2008-11-04 Thread Borhani, David
Sebastiano, it might be a trigonal planar anion, as Roger and others suggest, but the density doesn't look very symmetrical to me; also, the bond lengths look too long (e.g., bicarbonate should be ~1.4 Angs., I believe). Try taking the waters out (zero occ.), and see what the maps tell you at tha

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals grown from high ammonium sulphate

2008-11-04 Thread Tim Gruene
Generally crystals require a much higher precipitant concentration for nucleation than for growth and maybe even less for maintenance of their crystalline state. Therefore I would a) try micro seeding into less Ammonium Sulpahte b) reduce the ammonium sulfate concentration in the drop by addin

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals grown from high ammonium sulphate

2008-11-04 Thread Iain Kerr
Hi Sabine, I had a similar problem years ago. Have you tried oils ? (mineral oil, paraffin oil, 50:50 mixtures of either with N-paratone) You can either 1. add a small amount (1ul or less) to the drop containing the crystals and mount from there or 2. if you are quick enough, transfer the cr

[ccp4bb] Crystals grown from high ammonium sulphate

2008-11-04 Thread Sabine Schneider
Hi everyone, We got crystals that grew in ~3.2M ammonium sulphate and some tris-buffer at 18dgC. Unfortunately the crystals take a while to grow (~4-5 weeks) and so far we only have 4-5 xtals. I tried to freeze the crystals, but as soon as I broke though the skin of the drop the ammonium sulph

Re: [ccp4bb] tricoordinated ion?

2008-11-04 Thread artem
May be something that tagged along from purification or one of the impurities in the chemicals... nitrate, carbonate, etc. Incidentally, a 3.9 M BMP file was a nasty surprise for my mail box. A JPEG or PNG file of similar quality would have taken less than 100K... Artem > > Hi all, > I wanted to

Re: [ccp4bb] tricoordinated ion?

2008-11-04 Thread Roger Rowlett
Sebastiano, The density is possibly consistent with a trigonal planar anion such as bicarbonate or nitrate. Bicarbonate can enter the solution from CO2 in the atmosphere. Cheers, -- Roger S. Rowlett Professor Colgate University Presidential Scholar Department of Chemistry Colgate Universit

Re: [ccp4bb] phased MR

2008-11-04 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You can read phases into both MOLREP and Amore and search for the translation against the phased map.. It often gives good results. Eleanor Pietro Roversi wrote: Dear Ed, in the past we have successfully searched in an electron density map (computed in the whole cell) with M

Re: [ccp4bb] m-3m vs. m-3

2008-11-04 Thread Eleanor Dodson
In the $CHTML/twinning.html it tries to explain: From the table: # All *P2i3* and related *2i3* space groups: (h,k,l) already equivalent to (-h,-k,l) so we only need to check: real axes: (a,b,c) and (b,a,-c) reciprocal axes:(a*,b*,c*) and (b*,a*,-c*) /i.e./ rein

[ccp4bb] Group Leader Position in Structural Biology at EMBL Heidelberg

2008-11-04 Thread Christoph Mueller
EMBL Heidelberg, Germany Group Leader in Structural Biology: X-ray Crystallography / Electron Microscopy The Structural and Computational Biology Unit at EMBL Heidelberg seeks to recruit an outstanding group leader in structural biology with a research focus directed towards the structure-fu

Re: [ccp4bb] phased MR

2008-11-04 Thread Pete Meyer
For what it's worth, I'd try to get as much as possible out of the experimental phases before going on to phased MR. > I have SeMet MAD data to 3.6A that gives decent looking anomalous > difference peaks, looks stable in mlphare, and produces solvent > flattened maps to 2.8A in DM that look like t

Re: [ccp4bb] phased MR

2008-11-04 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Tassos, I suppose that the "eternal pdb file" you refer to conforms to the finally agreed standard for the pdb, expected to be valid for the rest of time ... . This clearly shows that SHARP does keep up with the latest and most forward-looking advances in the field. With bes

[ccp4bb] is it possible or is it existing ?

2008-11-04 Thread Jayashankar
Dear ccp4bb caretakers, I am very young for the ccp4bb thread(2007 jan-my thread date of birth). Is is possible to compile very important issues in a hyperlinked style of the important problems,discussions and queries with in ccp4 threads. for example when am reading a query of 2006 regarding so

Re: [ccp4bb] phased MR

2008-11-04 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Hi - I would not use mlphare for anything marginal (to be honest not at all). Both SHARP (use eternal pdb file in top page of the gui) and the new Phaser (look at the doc for scripts for this case) can do what you want. Tassos On Nov 4, 2008, at 11:55, Thomas Edwards wrote: Dear BB, I w

[ccp4bb] Postdoc position

2008-11-04 Thread Lucy Malinina
*Postdoctoral Positions in Macromolecular Crystallography* are immediately available in the Lucy Malinina laboratory at the Structural Biology Department of CICbioGUNE (Bilbao, Spain). We use the X-ray crystallographic approaches to elucidate structural principles of a biological intermolecular rec

Re: [ccp4bb] phased MR

2008-11-04 Thread Pietro Roversi
Dear Ed, in the past we have successfully searched in an electron density map (computed in the whole cell) with Molrep. If you have a second crystal form and you can cut the density of the monomer off, Phaser also gives very good results when searching with that electron density

[ccp4bb] phased MR

2008-11-04 Thread Thomas Edwards
Dear BB, I would like to ask for some advice on phased molecular replacement if possible. I have a MR model that has so far not proved successful with Phaser, Molrep, Amore, Beast etc. I have SeMet MAD data to 3.6A that gives decent looking anomalous difference peaks, looks stable in ml

[ccp4bb] ESRF School - 2nd - 5th February 2009

2008-11-04 Thread nurizzo
Dear all, We are pleased to announce the ESRF School titled *"Getting the most from the ESRF MX beamlines"* ESRF, Grenoble, France, 2nd - 5th February 2009 As part of its 2009 Users Meeting, the ESRF will host a short school *"Getting the most from the ESRF MX beamlines"* from 2nd to 5th Febru