DIS: Re: OFF: Hello World!

2010-08-12 Thread Keba
Keba wrote: > I hereby intend to become a Player. > > [Why do I join? Well, it‘s Zaraday!] I am so sorry to write my first two mails to the wrong mailing list. I hope your first impression of "Keba" is not that bad then... -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: NoV: the ATC should take duties more seriously

2010-08-13 Thread Keba
Am Freitag, den 13.08.2010, 00:00 -0500 schrieb Aaron Goldfein: > > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 20:28, Keba wrote: > > -- > Keba > > > If you don't mind me asking, who are you? Have you played Agora before > (you awarded yours

DIS: Re: BUS: NoV: the ATC should take duties more seriously

2010-08-13 Thread Keba
ATC. I nominate myself as ATC, too. -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: NoV: the ATC should take duties more seriously

2010-08-13 Thread Keba
Ed Murphy wrote: > coppro wrote: > > >> Proposal: Low altitude > >> (AI = 1, II = 0, distributable by fee) > >> > >> Keba is a co-author of this proposal, unless e announces within a > >> week after the publication of this proposal that e is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Victory conditions should sound similary

2010-08-13 Thread Keba
Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:36, Keba wrote: > Proposal: "Win by Respect" (AI=1, II=0, distributable) > > {{{ > Amend Rule 2287 "Props" by replacing: > >A player

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: *Wakes up after a multi-month nap*

2010-08-13 Thread Keba
line wrong mailing list. -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Last-day proposals

2010-08-15 Thread Keba
gt; -coppro I assume it would be better to put this into the Rules? -- Keba

DIS: Thesis archive?

2010-08-15 Thread Keba
or another office (maybe the Herald?)? [1] http://zenith.homelinux.net/website_submission/ [2] ftp://ftp.cse.unsw.edu.au/pub/users/malcolmr/nomic/articles/agora-theses/library.html -- Keba

Re: DIS: Thesis archive?

2010-08-15 Thread Keba
09-November/007387.html > > http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2007-November/008338.html > > as well as one (Andre's) that was not awarded a degree. Oh, thank you :) -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Crimes are NOT accepted!

2010-08-15 Thread Keba
Keba wrote: > Proposal: "We live in hard times" (AI=3, II=1, undistributable) > {{{ > Amend Rule 2125 by adding this text to the last paragraph: > > Violation of a Rule is a Class-2-Crime. > > [2 additional Rests for each Crime, because players sho

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: OK Go

2010-08-15 Thread Keba
4 support and by paying 4 ergs? -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: OK Go

2010-08-16 Thread Keba
d of an Urgent Proposal is five days from the >time the Proposal is distributed. > > > -G. Hm, that sounds nice, but need to be rewritten. "Class 1 Infraction" should be Class-1-Crime and Rule 107 states: "Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, the voting period for a decision with at least two options cannot be shorter than seven days". -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: OK Go

2010-08-16 Thread Keba
re) distributable Urgent Proposals in the Proposal pool." What’s a good value for N? Maybe 3? I assume it’s important to put the limit into another Proposal, so both are more likely to pass. -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: OK Go

2010-08-16 Thread Keba
tly states so. Maybe "a power of 3" should be "a power higher or equal than the power of this Rule". -- Keba

Re: DIS: To repair listlessness v0.2

2010-08-16 Thread Keba
al power. The voting advantage in your portosal is - in my opinion - much too high. This leads to another question: Does "Win by Clout" really need to be repealed? -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Hoisting one's own wormhole

2010-08-19 Thread Keba
ry exploit I could (15:10:27) Wooble: yes, also to keep your from exploiting it. :P (15:10:31) Wooble: you* (I assume quoting public fora should be legitim, even without asking?) -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Hoisting one's own wormhole

2010-08-19 Thread Keba
Sean Hunt wrote: > On 08/19/2010 04:58 PM, Keba wrote: > > (I assume quoting public fora should be legitim, even without asking?) > It's a discussion forum. Oh, discussion fora are not public fora? Nice to know :) -- Keba

Re: DIS: PM protosal

2010-08-23 Thread Keba
Oh my god, the mail looks terrible, I'm sorry. Switched to an email client, should be better in the future ;) -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6811-6821

2010-08-24 Thread Keba
Kerim Aydin wrote: > AGAINST (bad collision with relisting) > AGAINST (collision) > AGAINST (collision) I see your point, but if the possible collision is the only reason for voting against, I recommend to vote conditionally. -- Keba

Re: DIS: PM protosal

2010-08-25 Thread Keba
fee-based action (except destroying ergs) can be performed for a charge of one erg, objections and supports can be "bought" for a low fee etc.] }}} Of course I have lots of ideas related to the PM like a Ribbon for the Power Spender, other rewards for using the PM or more bot-PM acts, but I assume they should be proposed later. -- Keba

Re: DIS: PM protosal

2010-08-25 Thread Keba
Tanner L. Swett Perpepuum mobile is Latin for perpetual mobile machine and should be ok as a name and I chose the name Lab Labour because it sounds nice (yeah, I know the lab of Laboratory is pronounced differently than the lab of labour...), but Laboratory Worker is more correct of course. Well, maybe I'll change that name to Lab Worker. -- Keba

Re: DIS: PM protosal

2010-08-25 Thread Keba
Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, Keba wrote: > > The Perpepuum mobile (PM) is a person and active player. > > Has an actual fix for The Robot scam been proposed yet? If so > I like this, if not... -G. Well, it's not clear whether the scam has wor

Re: DIS: PM protosal

2010-08-25 Thread Keba
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I intend to vote against any proposal that includes an act-on-behalf > mechanism of any kind. Oh, why? Just because of bad experiences of the past? -- Keba

Re: DIS: PM protosal

2010-08-25 Thread Keba
com...@gmail.com wrote: > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 25, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Keba wrote: > > Perpepuum mobile is Latin for perpetual mobile machine > > Perpetuum actually, though I like Lab Labour Oh, you're right. Well, you should never look up a word and u

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enemy] Threat

2010-08-26 Thread Keba
You know that the attempt to rename the City, omd's objection to this attempt, the CoE and the NoV were all sent to the discussion mailing list and have therefore no effect? -- Keba

DIS: *test*

2010-08-26 Thread Keba
I assume my email client has made a mistake, this message should just be ignored. -- Keba

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6811-6821

2010-08-26 Thread Keba
(or any other Courtier)? I don't know whether the voting limits are increased by re-naming, but at least the special duties and powers should apply, if coppro's (or the Robot's?) scam worked. Maybe many players vote for this Proposal, because they intend to change their names at the beginning of next week? -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: [Ex-ATC] Ex-Flight Ex-Schedule

2010-08-28 Thread Keba
props and coppro 16. -- the real ATC Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Not a cronjob

2010-08-28 Thread Keba
Sean Hunt wrote: > I set this Case's II to 1. > I intend, without 3 objections, to set this Case's II to 2. > I intend, without 2 objections, to set this Case's II to 3. NTTPF. The latter intend fails, as you may only increase or decrease a Case's II by one. -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6811-6821

2010-08-28 Thread Keba
Warrigal wrote: > > 6818 G 1 3.0 KebaUrgent Limit > AGAINST; urgent proposals are already limited by the fact that > distributing them costs three ergs. Well, the proposal did not intend to restrict the Urgent Limit of one player, that's done by ergs and one p

DIS: Re: BUS: cleaner fees

2010-08-29 Thread Keba
Keba wrote: > I intend without objection to clean Rule 2283 "Fees" by replacing > > An attempt to performed a fee-based action is also implicitly a > claim to be in possession of sufficient ergs > > with > > An attempt to perform a fee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Leet Leadership

2010-09-01 Thread Keba
gt; possible." Thus, people don't have to avoid ambiguous things like > "bilge-pump" in their proposals; they can just include them and it > will be good enough. Or we define a word as everything between two whitespaces except whitespecaes. Feel free to propose your fix ;) -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6822 - 6829

2010-09-01 Thread Keba
Warrigal wrote: > > 6824 G 1 3.5 KebaRights are important > AGAINST. Setting a rule's power greater than 3 is dangerous, as it > ends up taking precedence over rules that are supposed to be > omnipotent. Shouldn't rights take precedence over *all* other

Re: DIS: The FSCN

2010-09-01 Thread Keba
to the elite, and > allowing players to accumulate power that cannot easily be taken from > them. We're looking for up to three other people to join. Who's > interested? > > —Co-Founder Tanner L. Swett I would like to join, as I like team play. -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Granulator election

2010-09-01 Thread Keba
Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > I vote for Keba. Thanks, seems I could have taken the office, if I showed more interest for it. But the voting period had ended about a quarter hour before you submitted your vote, so it's invalid. -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 6830-6833

2010-09-02 Thread Keba
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > Denied. The Promotor CAN distribute a proposal at any time, and it's > no longer ILLEGAL to do so during the week it was made Distributable. Hm, you're right. I'm sorry. > 6833 G 1 1.0 KebaLeet Leadership FOR -- Keba

Re: DIS: The FSCN

2010-09-03 Thread Keba
ad make it so that they don't > > automatically go back to erg form at the start of a week, but rather > > have to be transformed by the player. > > Yes, I think this would work really well. Just make it so that > capacitors persist from week to week and have to be converted >

DIS: Re: BUS: And the new speaker is...

2010-09-04 Thread Keba
on) This has the same effect (for you) as rebelling, but is much safer. -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: And the new speaker is...

2010-09-04 Thread Keba
me K.S Supervisor for helping me out here, but you declined indirectly. As G has retract eir offer, I retract my offer as well. I forgot about FSCN, of course it's members could and should take advantage of this "scam". Additionally, bribes of one prop are also not bad, if you want to jump up, of course ;) -- Keba

DIS: The bug is too nice to be not exploited

2010-09-05 Thread Keba
one or two Leadership Tokens. Sounds as a nice deal. -- Keba

Re: DIS: The bug is too nice to be not exploited

2010-09-05 Thread Keba
Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Keba wrote: > > If any player starts today or tomorrow two coups at once (and no coup > > other than mine was initiated), I promise to destroy the thereby > > eventually gained rests (max. 4) within two weeks. > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Darn.

2010-09-07 Thread Keba
Am Dienstag, den 07.09.2010, 08:41 -0400 schrieb Geoffrey Spear: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Keba wrote: > > Thu 02 Sep 19:56 G. DU In case of emergency > > Sun 05 Sep 14:07 G. D Coup Bug Fix > > Sun 05 Sep 14:11 G. D Reward Urgency > > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Perpetuum mobile

2010-09-07 Thread Keba
Am Dienstag, den 07.09.2010, 09:00 -0400 schrieb Geoffrey Spear: > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Keba wrote: > > Keba wrote: > >> I intend without two objections, to flip the Distributability of my > >> proposal entitled "Perpetuum mobile" to distributable.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool report

2010-09-07 Thread Keba
Keba wrote: > > URGENT PROPOSAL > > title: Demarcation > > chamber: Purple > > ai: 2.0 > > interest: 1 > > proposer: omd > > submit_date: 2010-09-04 > > submit_mid: > > distributability: undistributable > > distributability flipped: 20

Re: DIS: The FSCN

2010-09-07 Thread Keba
Warrigal wrote: > On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Keba wrote: > > Hm, I like the weekly destroying of ergs and capacitors, because I like > > the way the current economy works, so I am against a manual destroying. > > Well, one of our stated purposes is to allow players

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Keba
Am Dienstag, den 07.09.2010, 16:20 -0400 schrieb omd: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Keba wrote: > > Proposal "White Renaissance" (AI=1, II=1, distributable via fee) > > {{{ > > Amend Rule 2199 "Ribbons" by removing: > > > >(excep

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Keba
Am Dienstag, den 07.09.2010, 17:06 -0400 schrieb omd: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Keba wrote: > >> Why were White Ribbons removed in the first place? > > > > See CfJ 2836. White Ribbons only exist because of that phrase, if this > > phrase is deleted, all whi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Keba
Am Dienstag, den 07.09.2010, 17:06 -0400 schrieb omd: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Keba wrote: > >> Why were White Ribbons removed in the first place? > > > > See CfJ 2836. White Ribbons only exist because of that phrase, if this > > phrase is deleted, all whi

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: The FSCN

2010-09-08 Thread Keba
ay only use 50% or "X*ergs-they-spent" of the ergs, or what ever protection you like). As I invented the PM, I would like the PM (or another second-class player) to be said entity, but this is not necessary. I am against doing nothing and saving money in the mean time. Additionally, I am not sure whether "For each capacitor . . . its former owner." is clear enough. -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: The new top 5

2010-09-08 Thread Keba
Am Mittwoch, den 08.09.2010, 14:46 -0700 schrieb Kerim Aydin: > > On Wed, 8 Sep 2010, Keba wrote: > > Keba wrote: > > > I Bestow Favors: > > > > > > 1. Tanner L. Swett > > > 2. Tiger > > > 3. ais523 > > > 4. Wo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The new top 5

2010-09-09 Thread Keba
um amount possible and charged the appropriate partial fee." So I (the assumed PSM) assume moving Tiger down one position has worked. -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6834-6841

2010-09-09 Thread Keba
Ed Murphy wrote: > Keba wrote: > > > Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >> I resign as Promotor. > > > > I transfer a prop from Wooble (because problems are not solved by > > resigning) to Andon (because e will not be listed in the ATC's report > > separate

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Rebellion Die roll

2010-09-09 Thread Keba
up in 14 days ;) -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: grammer fix

2010-09-12 Thread Keba
ais523 wrote: > On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 23:27 +0200, Keba wrote: > > I intend without objection to clean Rule 2303 "Teams" by replacing: > > > > a unique > > > > with: > > > > an unique > > I object. In m

DIS: Re: BUS: Energy carryover

2010-09-12 Thread Keba
Thu 09 Sep 03:00 omd S (for a charge of 5 ergs) You own one erg. -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Sysadmin] Because this /still/ hasn't been initiated correctly

2010-09-13 Thread Keba
> > Murphy, ais523, Taral, the next office-holder that replies to this > > email with "AOL!". > > What, no preferences, really? > I don't care about the website. -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: ooh

2010-09-13 Thread Keba
Am Sonntag, den 12.09.2010, 20:22 -0400 schrieb Sean Hunt: > I make myself the Pariah. Hm, if I'm right you gained 23 rests for doing so (if making yourself the Pariah means assuming the Pariah), because you were the Pariah for a few hours? Was this intended? -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ditto

2010-09-13 Thread Keba
Keba wrote: > Twice. Tanner L. Swett has now 1 erg left. Well, no. Tanner L. Swett does not possess any ergs anymore. Sorry. -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6842-6846

2010-09-13 Thread Keba
omd wrote: > If the initial NoV was invalid and if this is possible, I pay a fee to > publish a NoV identical to the above, contest it, and initiate a > criminal case on it. Fails, you do not possess any ergs. -- PSM Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ditto

2010-09-13 Thread Keba
Ed Murphy wrpte: > omd wrote: > > > As many times as possible, I pay a fee to destroy an erg in The > > Pariah's possession. > > H. PSM Keba, how many times did this work? (I need to update rest > counts in the Assessor DB to determine whose votes are nullifi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ditto

2010-09-14 Thread Keba
Ed Murphy wrote: > Keba wrote: > > > Keba wrote: > >> Twice. Tanner L. Swett has now 1 erg left. > > > > Well, no. Tanner L. Swett does not possess any ergs anymore. Sorry. > > The quoted message containing "Twice" hasn't come through (p

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2861 assigned to Tanner L. Swett

2010-09-14 Thread Keba
Warrigal wrote: > If possible, I award myself a farad for the above judgement. You gained a farad for judging, so you may gain a capacitor for this farad. -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2861 assigned to Tanner L. Swett

2010-09-14 Thread Keba
Am Dienstag, den 14.09.2010, 12:54 +0200 schrieb Keba: > Warrigal wrote: > > If possible, I award myself a farad for the above judgement. > > You gained a farad for judging, so you may gain a capacitor for this > farad. > Oh sorry, you didn't gain a farad, because this CFJ's II is 0. -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: a-rest-ing

2010-09-15 Thread Keba
Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Keba wrote: > > [Generally, this could be done by the CotC very well, but both the CotC > > and the Herald got to do too many jobs, so we are ready for a new > > office.] > > I agree, but let me offer a puzzle. Refactor the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Assumption bug

2010-09-16 Thread Keba
Am Mittwoch, den 15.09.2010, 17:01 -0700 schrieb Kerim Aydin: > > On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Keba wrote: > > Additionally, I don't understand why G. do not want to post eir Rest > > record, if e already collected information on it. > > Without rancor, I'm explori

DIS: Re: BUS: (no subject)

2010-09-17 Thread Keba
Am Donnerstag, den 16.09.2010, 20:07 -0400 schrieb comex: > Proposal: individualism (AI=2, II=0, Distributable) > > Repeal Rule 2303 (Teams), Rule 2304 (The Referee), Rule 2305 (Fans), > and Rule 2306 (Team Tactics). II=0? -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6834-6841 (Corrected)

2010-09-17 Thread Keba
Am Sonntag, den 12.09.2010, 22:16 +0200 schrieb Keba: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > 6837 0 1.0 KebaLeet fix > > CoE: I have withdrawn this Proposal on or about 05/09/2010 10:58:09 (and > submitted a similar proposal entitled "Leet fix fix"), so this prop

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 6834-41 are probably failing quorum due to succession weirdness

2010-09-17 Thread Keba
do so without a PSM's report) > Also, I intend with 2 Senate support to begin an Emergency Session, as > we've been successfully invaded from Blognomic. An invasion consisting of one player? (Or miss I someone?) Did I do anything wrong to deal me out? -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals 6834-41 are probably failing quorum due to succession weirdness

2010-09-17 Thread Keba
Am Freitag, den 17.09.2010, 10:13 -0400 schrieb Geoffrey Spear: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Keba wrote: > > An invasion consisting of one player? (Or miss I someone?) Did I do > > anything wrong to deal me out? > > One player? Blognomic's Riddler took dir

DIS: Re: BUS: Okay, I don't have the energy to get this running

2010-09-17 Thread Keba
Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > and I doubt enough people would be interested anyway. > > I intend, with notice and with 3 support, to cause Space Alert to > cease to be a contest. > > Sorry for the bother. > I support. (I planned to do so as well anyway) -- Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2860 assigned to Taral

2010-09-19 Thread Keba
u could have award yourself only one capacitor. The intent to increase the II without objections does not automatically increase it after four days, you have to do that manually. (see Rule 1728) -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2860 assigned to Taral

2010-09-19 Thread Keba
Am Montag, den 20.09.2010, 01:10 +0200 schrieb Keba: > Am Sonntag, den 19.09.2010, 15:48 -0700 schrieb Taral: > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Taral wrote: > > > The question on culpability in CFJ 2860 is judged NOT GUILTY by 1504(d). > > > > I award myself 2

DIS: Re: BUS: Arresting

2010-09-22 Thread Keba
ave one erg left. -- PSM Keba

DIS: Re: BUS: Hey, I can do /this/ with ergs

2010-09-22 Thread Keba
Warrigal wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > > I pay a fee to initiate an election for Pariah. > > If possible, I nominate myself. > > —Tanner L. Swett You are already nominated, because you are the current holder of that office. -- Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Arresting

2010-09-22 Thread Keba
omd worte: > This needs to be a CoE. Hm, which error should I claim? I'm relatively sure e believed e had that amount of ergs and rests. And doing something as many times as possible is not an error of course. -- Keba

DIS: mail of apology

2010-09-27 Thread Keba
, the reports were not *that* important, second they will be published only one day to late and third, it wasn't my fault really. If there anyone is for a penalty, I have to say I lost many ergs, that *is* some kind of penalty. -- Keba