Re: DIS: Re: BUS: register

2007-07-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I suppose I'll be referred to as "Wooble" since I'm using it in 2 other nomics. On 7/3/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Geoffrey Spear wrote: >I wish to register as a Player. Per CFJ 1263, you are now a player (as of your message). Do you wish to be referred

Re: DIS: proto: judicial reform

2007-07-05 Thread Geoffrey Spear
Can anyone expound on why it would be necessary to have both UNDECIDABLE and another category, whatever it ends up being called, for when there's not enough information to determine if the question is undecidable? If it's "not capable of being accurately described as either false or true, at the t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5062-5070

2007-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
t; I vote as follows: These are ineffective, as your voting limit at the start of the voting period was zero. See Rule 1950. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5062-5070

2007-07-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
sputes about the application of the Rules. Please assume good faith. :) -- Eris, who usually doesn't mind a spat or two On 7/7/07, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I registered as a player at Jul 3, 2007 2:45 PM, thus becoming Active > and hence an eligible voter. The v

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PC's posture

2007-07-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
hange it to lying down, without 2 objections. (I'll be able to do > > that under the fifth paragraph of rule 1871/11 if I'm CotC at the time, > > which seems a likely turn of events.) > > > > -zefram > > > -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5088-5097

2007-07-18 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I vote as follows: On 7/17/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 5088 Oi 1Murphy Compensate for vacant offices and speake... FOR * 4 5089 Di 2Zefram encourage meeting quorum AGAINST 5090 Di 3Zefram fix judicial rights FOR 5091 Di 2Zefram prot

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 5080 - 5087

2007-07-23 Thread Geoffrey Spear
peal of a judgement in which not all three appellate judges have rendered judgement, the post-reform appeal case has its question on disposition open. * Aspects of continuity not addressed by the above provisions shall be governed by rule 1586. The above provisions shall guide the application of rule 1586. [Rule 1586 theoretically should achieve all of this on its own. As it's a particularly radical redefinition of complex entities, explicit provisions seem helpful.] }{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{ Proposal 5087 (Ordinary, AI=1, Disinterested) by Murphy Spell check Amend Rule 1794 (Classes of Orders) by replacing "Oredr" with "Order". Amend Rule 2024 (Linked Statements) by replacing "labelled" with "labeled". Amend Rule 2129 (Dishonor Rolls) by replacing "publically" with "publicly". -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1713: assign Wooble

2007-08-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On 8/2/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >the rule requires "the statement" > >to be inquired into to be included and I don't think it's sufficient > >that someone could take the > &

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1713: assign Wooble

2007-08-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On 8/2/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >The phase "whether CotC Zefram violated > >Rule 1871" can only be read to mean that what is to be determined is > >CotC Zefram's culpability for an alleged breach

Re: DIS: proto: caps lock

2007-08-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
ot;deprecated" in Rule 2152 just seems silly. There's no reason I can think of to allow a discouraged or "deprecated" action in a nomic at all, and I think including it shows a misunderstanding of the very important reasons for allowing such things in software. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Faction anyone ?

2007-08-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
thing they can do is take away the votes of their members who are also B Nomic Players and cast them as a group. Unless Agora gave Players some sort of reward for giving eir allegiance to a hypothetical Agora Faction in B Nomic, I can see no motivation for doing so.) -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1714: assign Zefram

2007-08-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On 8/3/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/3/07, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I appeal the ruling in CFJ 1714 on the grounds that the Judge > > apparently does not understand the meaning of the word "if", the > > concept of

Re: DIS: Proto-rebuttal

2007-08-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
e "regularity". As for the other one, it just looks like an attempt to create a paradox by asking someone to judge whether the statement "Maybe" is false. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Pseudo-judgement of CFJ 1718

2007-08-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
red resender? -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on charge interpretation

2007-08-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
avours of acquittal, > and so the interpretation of the charge is significant. I suggest that > the second interpretation is preferable, because it matches the charge > as presented by the prosecutor, whereas the first interpretation throws > away a relevant part of that sentence. > > -zefram > -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to ratify

2007-08-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
y a means that makes it appear to be from another Player. }}} If judged TRUE, would this create an 18-way fork of the game into states where each of the 17 current Players is not a Player and 1 where it was sent by someone who's not a Player? -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1712: assign Wooble

2007-08-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On 8/13/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is not yet determined with finality whether CFJ 1712 is a criminal > case or an inquiry case. CFJ 1713 established that CFJ 1712 is a criminal case and there's no pending appeal. Do you really think that the mere possibility of appeal means that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5147-5171

2007-08-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
nd in recent months. Indeed, I'd rather see comex get the VCs for the proposals. That said, I'd probably support an anti-plagiarism rule if someone proposed it. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5183-5189

2007-08-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
187 Oi 1LeviLack of Interest FOR * 9 > 5188 Oi 1LeviRegistrar Report Requirements PRESENT > 5189 Di 2Levi More MMI FOR -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: BUS: advert

2007-08-31 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I have updated the NomicWiki page in question. -Ambassador Wooble On 8/30/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I intend to deputise for the ambassador in order to update the NomicWiki > page about Agora for August. > > -zefram > -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Knaves have plagued Agora for a long time

2007-08-31 Thread Geoffrey Spear
ement is made it's neither true nor false, although one could argue that if the imperative is directed towards an officer who is bound by the Rules, the speaker in question can determine with certainty what the response to the imperative will (or at least SHALL) be, and therefore what the truth value of the imperative will be at some later time. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Appellate VCs

2007-08-31 Thread Geoffrey Spear
veryone the trouble. And I think Fern and Emerald are just Green. That should save everyone else the trouble of thinking for themselves too. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Appellate VCs

2007-08-31 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On 8/31/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >And I think Fern and Emerald are just Green. > > They're definitely shades of green, but fern is slightly reddish > and emerald is slightly bluish. Much the same way that pink is a > shade of

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5199-5213

2007-09-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I vote as follows: > 5199 D1 2Murphy Trust-Busting FOR > 5200 O0 1Zefram no indefinite deputisation notice FOR * 9 > 5201 D1 3comex Refactor regulation AGAINST > 5202 D0 2Murphy Asset repair FOR > 5203 D1 2Murphy Easier chromatic wins AGA

Re: DIS: Proto-Proposal: Lying down on the job

2007-09-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
ecuses a judge with cause"; I'd assume that's when e can do so, at the time of recusing the judge. Changing the "CAN" to "CAN and SHALL" would preserve the intent of the original proto better though, IMO. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: BUS: Poll on CFJ 1741

2007-09-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
too, so like you and BobTHJ I couldn't even see the attempted obfuscation without using the "Show original" option. I'd have to agree that it's a lot more likely that a given Player would be able to read an HTML message than one in an arbitrary MIME type. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We play on the internet after all

2007-09-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
ated by people who are deliberately trying to be difficult. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We play on the internet after all

2007-09-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
h how the actual content of the message is presented rather than its Content-Type. I don't think anyone has a problem with a bunch of tags surrounding the text people send as long as the actual text of the messages that need to be interpreted under the rules is completely clear without needing translation/transliteration. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivity

2007-09-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
posture to supine without a proposal right now. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711a: assign BobTHJ, comex, root

2007-09-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On 9/17/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm republishing this for the new judge assignment in case 1711a, and > I intend to cause the panel of BobTHJ, Wooble, and myself to judge > REMAND with these arguments, with the consent of BobTHJ and Wooble. I consent to having the panel judge RE

Re: DIS: Proto: Variables

2007-09-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
lid values > as "all real numbers from 0 (default) to 1, inclusive", for instance. It could but that would break the switch metaphor IMO. I'd suggest calling such a thing a "dial". Then again personally I think a "switch" should have exactly two possible values. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Proto: Variables

2007-09-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On 9/17/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >Then again personally I think a > >"switch" should have exactly two possible values. > > To match the hardware, presumably? > > http://www.maplin.

Re: DIS: Proto: Variables

2007-09-18 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On 9/18/07, Peekee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > root wrote: > > > >> On 9/17/07, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> On 9/17/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > &g

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5225-5229

2007-09-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I vote as follows: > 5225 O1 1Goddess Er Lying down on the job III FOR * 9 > 5226 O1 1BobTHJ Lie Down PRESENT > 5227 O1 1Peekee Get some colors. AGAINST * 9 > 5228 O0 1rootCitizenship cleansing PRESENT > 5229 D1 3rootEarly announcement o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1741: assign root

2007-09-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
e an appeal can be brought with 2 support and doesn't require Agoran Consent; objections are irrelevant. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1741: assign root

2007-09-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
2 support, the result of the decision on whether to do it is APPROVED if there are 2 or more supports even if there are positive infinity opposes. Frankly I think the dependent action process has become a bit too generalized. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1740: assign Goddess Eris

2007-09-21 Thread Geoffrey Spear
a judge. In any case 5225 doesn't prevent a judge who's recused for cause from simply flipping eir posture back to sitting. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1745: remanded to Wooble

2007-09-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
> Statement: It is possible for a judicial case to have more than one >subclass. I judge IRRELEVANT. The veracity of the statement is not relevant to the game. --Wooble

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Caveat suffragor

2007-09-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
the power to allow a voter to cast more valid, counted votes than e has the right to? Sounds like a scam to me. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Caveat suffragor

2007-09-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On 9/27/07, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it just me, or wouldn't this give the vote collector the power to > allow a voter to cast more valid, counted votes than e has the right > to? Sounds like a scam to me. Also, is it just me or does anyone else's

DIS: Re: BUS: Here and Gone Again: a Registrar's Report

2007-09-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On 9/27/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Human Point Twoc/o Murphy 29 Apr 07 A Murphy left the Human Point Two partnership at the time e deregistered. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Here and Gone Again: a Registrar's Report

2007-09-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On 9/27/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/27/07, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Human Point Twoc/o Murphy 29 Apr 07 A > > > > Murphy le

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2007-09-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
e created by announcement. Since the appeal hinged on the quite correct assertion that we can, in fact, break the game state in any way we want to through passing proposals, any statement of the form "X is possible" is probably superficially true. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1755: assign Wooble

2007-09-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
ese times the AFO actually became the vote collector for the decisions in question, as it's irrelevant. E was the vote collector at the time e was cased to publish the message resolving the decisions, ergo they were resolved with that message. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1801: assign comex

2007-11-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
ly paying attention to the ballots, they're pretty much worthless. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Protective Alliance

2007-11-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
nd are you trying to drag someone else into this growing war? Certainly not. And I can assure you I have no intention of trying to drag ECMAnomic into a war, either. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: BUS: I'm a royal idiot.

2007-11-26 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I intend to make Agora be a player in B Nomic. > > Let's see how B Nomic handles *two* player/factions. :) > > I vote SUPPORT on this, BTW. > I vote OBJECT. --Wooble -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1799: result UNDECIDABLE

2007-11-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
ase, the English language; in our hypothetical case where "nkep" has a game-defined meaning, the game) it's not, by definition, nonsense. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: [s-b] Proposal Withdrawal and Revision

2007-11-30 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Nov 30, 2007 12:10 AM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We surrendered? > > . . . I propose war. . . And I wonder if we can make him a knave. > BobTHJ surrendered, having received Agoran Consent to do so when e badly worded his message seeking such consent. Eir message to B surrend

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1807a: assign Eris, Goethe, Wooble

2007-11-30 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Nov 30, 2007 12:06 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1806a Should be http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1807a -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Scoreboard correction.

2007-12-01 Thread Geoffrey Spear
s capable of owning points. --Wooble -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Proto: Digits

2007-12-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
B, where everything in the game is already defined as an Object. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5335-5344

2007-12-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
e another. If a rule with a number higher than 110 conflicts with 110 and 110 says that it takes precedence, it does. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-12-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
that contract as Agora is by the Fookiemyartug contract, i.e., not at all. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-12-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Dec 3, 2007 2:45 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 3, 2007 11:36 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 3, 2007 11:31 AM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Let me introduce you to my private contract that say

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1819: assign Wooble

2007-12-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
using R2172) can not perform a regulated action. See R1688. Agora has 0 power (by default), and thus cannot make changes where a mechanism for those changes is defined in an instrument with a power greater than 0 (which would be any instrument, by definition). -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1813-1814: assign Goethe

2007-12-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Dec 6, 2007 1:32 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > "To decrease a value by -1" cannot be reasonably interpreted to mean > > the same thing as "to increase a value by 1". > > Obviously,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1813-1814: assign Goethe

2007-12-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Dec 6, 2007 1:49 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 6, 2007 11:42 AM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The fact that you interpreted it as such does not make it obvious that > > such an interpretation is reasonable. > > That's pr

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJs 1813-1814: assign Goethe

2007-12-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
ents in your recent CFJs and tries to appeal them on the grounds that they don't take into account the reasoning given in CFJ1813. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1829: assign Wooble

2007-12-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Dec 9, 2007 6:28 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Statement: The Accountor is an office. I judge FALSE. Reasoning: {{ While Rule 2126, listing the Accountor in a list prefixed by "the following officers:" would seem to implicitly state that there must be an officer known as the Accounto

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A Message from B Nomic

2007-12-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
itous pre-emptive argument: B's Ambassador was ordered by another Player to send that message on behalf of B, and no one declared the action of issuing that order Invalid, so it's "valid in every way, even if it is in contradiction to the rules." Isn't explicitly legislating "I say I do, therefore I do" frickin' wonderful? -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf, Hole #1

2007-12-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
al, decimal, or hexadecimal as preferred, as long as the > program consistently uses a single system. The program must not > accept any input. Do you have a preferred newline format? Is the ASCII LF character sufficient rather than a CR LF? -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1830a: assign Goddess Eris, root, Wooble

2007-12-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Dec 11, 2007 1:30 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/11/07, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > With the consent of H. Goddess Eris and H. root, I intend to have the > > panel judge OVERRULE with a replacement judgement of IRRELEVANT, > > Is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf, Hole #1

2007-12-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
, the whole thing was a fun exercise, and had the added benefit of making my perl code look very readable by comparison. --Wooble -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf, Hole #1

2007-12-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
ich also seemed a bit like cheating. Then I briefly toyed with the notion of writing a Brainfuck program to help figure out how to best write the other program, but that just gave me a headache. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contest, take three

2007-12-12 Thread Geoffrey Spear
s own right. There are really three > I disagree about this ordering of annoyingness, but unselective quoting > > >It's less annoying than quoting the entire message and then bottom-posting :D > comex wrote: > -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Scoreboard

2007-12-15 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Dec 14, 2007 9:06 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wooble 3 > Zefram 9 > BobTHJ 1 I believe that BobTHJ and I lost our points upon deregistering and are both at 0. --Wooble

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Winnation

2007-12-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
ave. Only through an agreement that allows them to borrow the thing they wish to spend so they may spend it. No procedure to borrow VCs exists in Agora. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Proto: Synaesthesia

2007-12-26 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Dec 26, 2007 3:52 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Change the title of Rule 2176 to "Notes", and amend it to read: > >Notes are a class of assets. Ownership of Marks is restricted >to players. s/Marks/Notes/ -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [s-b] [s-d] Anti-Proposal: B-Agora Swap

2008-01-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Jan 2, 2008 11:27 AM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 02 January 2008 05:14:38 Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > On Jan 1, 2008 11:48 PM, Jamie Dallaire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hmmm, I don't think it's a proposal. Plus, even if

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Nonpublic deregistrations

2008-01-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
moving this text: > If a registered partnership is not a public contract, it can be > degregistered with Support. > } s/degregistered/deregistered/ -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Nonpublic deregistrations

2008-01-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Jan 3, 2008 9:26 AM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >s/degregistered/deregistered/ > > No, the rule text actually says "degregistered". Ah. The Wooble Private Partnership gregisters and adds "deregister" in all its forms t

Re: DIS: [Brainfuck Golf] Preview of Hole #2

2008-01-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
ogram using only one byte of memory and still would have submitted the shortest program. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: registration

2008-01-08 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Jan 8, 2008 3:11 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > > Acting on behalf of my daughter, a minor, I register Zoƫ Spear using > > the nickname "Wooblette". > > I thought about that, was wavering

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Nominations

2008-01-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
to have worked reasonably well. I'd thought you were around back then but I see now that you joined immediately after the Second Era ended when the server that did the parsing died a horrible death. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: BUS: Brainfuck Golf Hole #2

2008-01-14 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I think this problem would've been a lot easier had I not decided to make the actual brainfuck coding easier by writing a debugger for the Mac, which involved remembering how to code in Objective C, learning Apple's CoreData API that I'd never used before (which was entirely unnecessary for this ta

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Fix Rule 1586

2008-01-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
gt; Yeah, I'm trying to find where that setting is in g-mail. Gmail does that automatically as far as I can tell, as long as you don't select "Rich formatting". I certainly have always typed paragraphs all on one line and they get split to a 72-character width when they're sending. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Proto-notification of Recognition of Canada

2008-01-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
tion in existence to promote their relations with another government, with which Agora has no affiliation? The office of the Prime Minister or perhaps the Foreign Ministry would surely be more appropriate. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-24 Thread Geoffrey Spear
ver to the gamestate, including but not limited to > enacting, repealing, or amending a rule. > > This rule takes precedence over all other rules. > > [Requesting comments on whether or not this has a bug.] > You misspelled "Wooble" as "comex".

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Watcher

2008-01-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
's the threshold for people repeatedly using a term in one way before it's "custom" and therefore able to override a rule? -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Watcher

2008-01-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
> -root > > As am I. I'm guessing that Ben Caplan here wants to be known as 'watcher'. If anything, he requested to be known as 'a "watcher"'. -- Geoffrey Spear http://www.geoffreyspear.com/

Re: DIS: Proto: Quorum Busting

2008-01-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Jan 29, 2008 2:43 AM, Jeremy Koo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After review, it seems I suffered from a slight misunderstanding of > the rules. Thank you all for your comments. It is my intent, > actually, to just have this apply to proposals. In addition, I > believe votes of PRESENT (which a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1886 assigned to Zefram

2008-01-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Jan 29, 2008 12:00 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008 9:31 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here I am attempting to use the normal english definition of the word > > 'deregister'. Note that R869 does not define this word. It defines "to > > deregister" and "

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Brainfuck Golf] Hole #4

2008-01-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Jan 29, 2008 1:35 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > > The task for Hole #4 is to write a ROT13 encoder. The program's > > output should be identical to its input encoded in ROT13, as described > > at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROT13 (*). >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Brainfuck Golf] Hole #4

2008-01-30 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Jan 29, 2008 7:53 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can do a *double* ROT-13 encoder. Does that count? That would be an interesting contest. I'm sure I'd lose horribly with my bloated 4-character solution.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1879: assign Goddess Eris

2008-01-30 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Jan 29, 2008 7:55 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I OBJECT to this appeal. Does that count for anything? It could count for something when the decision on who is named to the Appeals Panel is made...

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1887 assigned to BobTHJ

2008-01-30 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Jan 30, 2008 3:02 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Making the public statement 'This statement is a lie' would > > cause the person making that statement to violate Rule 2149. > > Soliciting comments on this CFJ. > > Judge BobTHJ I agree with H. Zefram's analysis. Rule

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Accountor Election

2008-01-31 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Jan 31, 2008 1:43 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 31, 2008 11:32 AM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 31, 2008 12:35 PM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I vote for the first candidate on the following lis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: deputy

2008-02-01 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Feb 1, 2008 9:17 AM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >I initiate a criminal CFJ with Zefram as the defendant, alleging e > >violated Rule 2149 in the above message by making the statement "I > >intend to deputise for BobTHJ to dere

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: deputy

2008-02-01 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Feb 1, 2008 12:31 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Repealing equity cases would remove the ability to pursue equity in > the broader sense. Equity cases cover general inequities in the > proceedings of contracts, not just the particular cases where some > party has failed to meet eir

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1893 assigned to Wooble

2008-02-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Feb 2, 2008 9:57 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Caller's Arguments: > > In addition to the issue of contracthood in the case initiated by > pikhq, I request that the judge consider: > > 1) whether "agreement between all parties" to change the membership of > a "non-binding contract"

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: judicial immunity

2008-02-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Feb 4, 2008 2:43 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 4, 2008 12:25 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I disagree that making inappropriate judgments should be a criminal > > offense. I'd support having an appeal of a Judge's de

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: judicial immunity

2008-02-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Feb 4, 2008 1:49 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Regarding the first instance: A judge who intentionally assigns > an inappropriate judgement should be subject to prosecution. A > judge who assigns a judgement that e believes in good faith is > appropriate, but later turns out to be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: judicial immunity

2008-02-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Feb 4, 2008 3:21 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >Right now such a judgment would need to be overturned by a Proposal > >anyway, if I'm not mistaken. If the inappropriateness is egregious > >enough, the members of the panel coul

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crop for sale

2008-02-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Feb 4, 2008 3:30 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 4, 2008 3:12 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You could simplify this sort of thing by amending the Vote Market > > agreement to allow the poster of a ticket to explicitly limit who > > can fill it. > > Is specifying mult

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: judicial immunity

2008-02-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Feb 4, 2008 3:35 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >And yet they seem more palatable to me than letting a corrupt judicial > >system punish corrupt judges. > > Er, we don't have a corrupt judicial system. We have individua

DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Requirement

2008-02-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Feb 6, 2008 8:30 AM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I hereby officially notify all Players of their Rule 1750-imposed duty. > > You have been warned. "Encouraged" doesn't seem to create all that much of a duty. How about changing "are encouraged to" to "SHALL", make it quarterly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Because an action is an action is an action

2008-02-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Feb 6, 2008 1:59 AM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe the easiest thing is to combine these issues: leave N alone (get > rid of N+1) and disqualify the "first-class person who posts the intent, > or who posts the intent on behalf of a second-class person" from supporting. In theo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Because an action is an action is an action

2008-02-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Feb 6, 2008 1:03 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That of course was my first thought, but then I thought that there may be > trivial dependent things that it's perfectly reasonable and convenient for > the AFO (or someone else) to be able to do. General opinions all around, > based

Re: DIS: Proto: nomic definition

2008-02-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Feb 7, 2008 8:38 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 7, 2008 7:13 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A nomic is an entity defined by a set of explicit rules that > > provide means for themselves to be altered arbitrarily, including > > changes to those rule

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