DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge & Notice of Honour

2020-09-07 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Gaelan wrote: I pledge to dedicate my weekly notices of honor to subtracting honour from those who, despite not being in on the scam, unconditionally voted for G's rule bending proposal (until I've gotten through everyone). The time window for this pledge is 20 weeks. Seriously, y'all, what

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge Shenanigans

2020-07-16 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-16 9:49 p.m., Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/16/20 5:47 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: On 2020-07-16 5:47 p.m., ATMunn via agora-business wrote: On 7/16/2020 1:43 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: On 7/16/2020 1:42 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: I p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge Shenanigans

2020-07-16 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/16/20 5:47 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > On 2020-07-16 5:47 p.m., ATMunn via agora-business wrote: >> On 7/16/2020 1:43 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On 7/16/2020 1:42 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: I pledge to not say the word "tacos" in any context for the

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge Shenanigans

2020-07-16 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
On 7/16/2020 1:42 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: I pledge to not say the word "tacos" in any context for the next 24 hours. The time window of this pledge is 24 hours and breaking the pledge shall be a class 1 crime. I like tacos. -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary and Czar of Russi

DIS: Re: BUS: [Pledge] Contract Summaries

2020-07-07 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-04 11:08, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: I pledge to transfer 3 coins to every person who submits a 1-2 sentence summary of a contract e is party to. If a person submits summaries for multiple contracts, I will transfer 3 coins for every contract e submitted a summary for. Multiple

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-24 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018, Rebecca wrote: I do so. You were too late as proposal 8050 passed, and pledges are no longer retractable. Fortunately that doesn't matter, as all your pledges were older than 60 days. Greetings, Ørjan. On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Ned Strange wrote: Without o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-17 Thread Reuben Staley
I'm assuming this is the location to complain about a-o being messed up. I've been out of town and haven't read through this thread really well. I cannot log into the a-o private archives. Every time I try to, it just takes me to the login screen again. It works with a-b and a-d though. On 6/

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-17 Thread ATMunn
I did the same. I asked for people to respond if it was received, and there were no responses. In fact, I normally receive a copy of my own messages, and I didn't with this one. On 6/17/2018 3:09 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: Not sure if this helps, but I sent a test email to Official on Friday

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-17 Thread ATMunn
Well, my email address is a gmail one, but I'm using Thunderbird to view the emails. If it's a problem with Gmail, then it's a problem with Google's servers, not the client. On 6/16/2018 7:22 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: Okay, anyone using gmail didn't receive it. However, this can't just be gmail

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-17 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Not sure if this helps, but I sent a test email to Official on Friday to try and narrow down the problem. It hasn't even showed up in the list at mail-archive.com, let alone been delivered to anybody. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 16, 2018 11:22 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-16 Thread Aris Merchant
Okay, anyone using gmail didn't receive it. However, this can't just be gmail's fault, because plenty of people who aren't using gmail also haven't received it. I'm quite confused. It would be great if those who have received the messages could look at the headers and see if anything looks differen

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-16 Thread Ned Strange
same On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:41 AM, ATMunn wrote: > The original message? No, I haven't received it. > > On 6/15/2018 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: >> >> Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use >> the honor system. >> >> -Aris >> >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-16 Thread ATMunn
The original message? No, I haven't received it. On 6/15/2018 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use the honor system. -Aris On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: Oops.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Ørjan Johansen
Me too. Greetings, Ørjan. On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Corona wrote: I'm in the same situation. ~Corona On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:53 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:48 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: Oo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Ørjan Johansen
I don't seem to have it. Greetings, Ørjan. On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use the honor system. -Aris On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: Oops. Yeah,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: I'm paranoid. *adjusts tinfoil hat* Are you sure that's genuine tin, and not the aluminum substitute the world government has stealthily fooled nearly everyone into using? Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I am in the same boat. From now until this is resolved, I would request that all messages be sent to BAK or BUS, as opposed to OFF. On 06/15/2018 04:53 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:48 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: >>> Oops. Yeah, I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I favor this CFJ. On 06/15/2018 04:36 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my prior > CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved." > > -Aris > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:34 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> >> Er, might want to check the Propos

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Aris Merchant
How is your email set up? -Aris On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:54 PM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > I don't believe I've received this second attempt either. > > -twg > ​​ > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On June 15, 2018 8:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > ​​ > > > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Me

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Corona
I'm in the same situation. ~Corona On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:53 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:48 PM Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been reso

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
oh my, taral was the distributor before omd. I think the change was around 2006. On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > Okay, I'm starting to develop a theory here. The agora-official list > is configured differently than the other two. It's owner is listed as > "taralx at gmail.com" wh

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Aris Merchant
Okay, I'm starting to develop a theory here. The agora-official list is configured differently than the other two. It's owner is listed as "taralx at gmail.com" whereas the others are owned by "owner-spamfilt at agoranomic.org". I think we need to send a "something weird is happening" report to omd

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
Ugh. I'll send it to Business and BAK. OFF is still the one where the mailman archive is broken, too. On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > I don't believe I've received this second attempt either. > > -twg > ​​ > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On June 15, 2018 8:45 PM, K

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I don't believe I've received this second attempt either. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 15, 2018 8:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > ​​ > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my prior > > > > CFJ, an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Sorry, was about to get around to responding to this chain. I have NOT received the email resolving proposals 8050-8052. It's not in my spam folder either. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 15, 2018 8:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > ​​ > > Poll: Who has and hasn't received the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my prior > CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved." Except now - haha - I made a second, hopefully successful attempt to resolve a few moments *before* this second CFJ came in, s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Cuddle Beam
https://i.gyazo.com/bf99d85e20f8a18ef447acdb3b4339ae.png For some reason it's hitting my spam inbox. On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:45 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use > the honor system. > > -Ar

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Aris Merchant
Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use the honor system. -Aris On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my > prior > > CFJ, and CFJ "

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Cuddle Beam
I'm paranoid. *adjusts tinfoil hat* On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 at 17:40, Corona wrote: > T.T I couldn't have acted on that intent any earlier than next Tuesday, and > the dynasty will definitely be over by then. > > ~Corona > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > > I object to Cor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
Er, might want to check the Proposal # in the CFJ statement... I'll re-send the resolution to converge the gamestate in case it failed before. I think the only things I did for zombies were announcements-of- intent so I don't think the time difference breaks anything (yet!) On Fri, 15 Jun 20

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Aris Merchant
Did you ever resolve proposal 8050? I certainly can't find a resolution... -Aris On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:09 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > You couldn't have anyway because PLEDGES CAN NO LONGER BE DESTROYED, > WITHOUT OBJECTION OR OTHERWISE. > > They can't be destroyed at all because they're no

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
You couldn't have anyway because PLEDGES CAN NO LONGER BE DESTROYED, WITHOUT OBJECTION OR OTHERWISE. They can't be destroyed at all because they're no longer assets. Please read Proposal 8050 - the only way for a pledge to end is to time out (and that doesn't outright "destroy" it, it just m

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

2018-06-15 Thread Corona
T.T I couldn't have acted on that intent any earlier than next Tuesday, and the dynasty will definitely be over by then. ~Corona On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I object to Corona’s attempt, because the dynasty isn’t over just yet (will > be soon though). > > On Fri, 15 Ju

DIS: Re: BUS: pledge simplifcation

2018-05-28 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Sun, 27 May 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: All pledges that existed as assets the instant before this Proposal took effect are considered to have been made as pledges under the current version of Rule 2450. This phrasing disturbs my platonic sense. Make them _actually_ be pledges, thank you. R

DIS: Re: BUS: pledge simplifcation

2018-05-27 Thread Aris Merchant
Looks great. This gives me some ideas on how to do that regulations reform that I've been thinking about. I'm still planning to work on it, and I should have time for it in June. -Aris On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > I submit the following proposal, Pledge Simplifica

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pledge-b-gone

2018-05-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 6 May 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Sat, 5 May 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > Or, we could just repeal them. > > I use pledges. If you want to ditch something, ditch regulations. Actually nvm I forgot how poor the enforcement mechanism for pledges was these days - I'd say now that puni

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pledge-b-gone

2018-05-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 6 May 2018, Ned Strange wrote: > I object: do this by proposal Why?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pledge-b-gone

2018-05-06 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 5 May 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > Or, we could just repeal them. I use pledges. If you want to ditch something, ditch regulations.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pledge-b-gone

2018-05-05 Thread Aris Merchant
Or, we could just repeal them. -Aris On Sat, May 5, 2018, 9:32 PM Ned Strange wrote: > > I object: do this by proposal > > On Saturday, May 5, 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > > > > I intend to ratify the following document without objection: > > { No pledges existed on 04 May 18 19:55:00 U

DIS: Re: BUS: pledge-b-gone

2018-05-05 Thread Ned Strange
I object: do this by proposal On Saturday, May 5, 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > I intend to ratify the following document without objection: > { No pledges existed on 04 May 18 19:55:00 UTC } > > > The above document is not correct. The pledges in existence before > ratification are listed i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pledge

2017-09-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
I realized you were trying to set quorum with the terrible proposal, but what was the quorum bug itself? I thought it was a side-effect of it working as intended (a feature not a bug). On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > Thank you for your honesty. > > -Aris > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pledge

2017-09-25 Thread Aris Merchant
Thank you for your honesty. -Aris On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 23:24 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: >> Speaking of mysterious secrets: ais523, can you tell us why you >> submitted the repeal all rules proposal around the time of your >> junta? >> Sorry

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pledge

2017-09-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 23:24 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > Speaking of mysterious secrets: ais523, can you tell us why you > submitted the repeal all rules proposal around the time of your > junta? > Sorry if I already asked and forgot about it. First of all, the actual text of the proposal was irr

DIS: Re: BUS: pledge

2017-09-25 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I pledge as follows: > > If a plaintext (ISO-8859-1) of the following SHA-512 hash is published, > where the plaintext is 42 characters or less in length, then I will have > performed as described in it: > > 766697bbcd12ee0d916bd2ee0edb5d3

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge

2009-09-27 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 18:15 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: > I join Scumbuddies and change my membership to full. Fails because I forgot to give consent. Ask for comex's and try again. -- ais523 Notary

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge

2009-09-25 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 18:15, Sean Hunt wrote: > I join Scumbuddies and change my membership to full. > > -coppro > Did comex and ais523 grant their consent? of not this was unsuccessful. BobTHJ

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge

2009-09-23 Thread Pavitra
ais523 wrote: >> Any party (the actor) CAN act on behalf of a party (the grantor) whose >> membership is full by announcement, except to intend or agree to make >> Contract Changes to this contract, but SHALL NOT do so except in the >> following cases: >> >> - as would be POSSIBLE if not for this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge: Send-only address access

2008-12-09 Thread Jamie Dallaire
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Chris Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While that's where you *send* the random rolls, the roll results > actually come from [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what Taral was talking > about. Ah, thanks. I'd never actually noticed it wasn't coming back from the same addre

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge: Send-only address access

2008-12-09 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:12 PM, Taral wrote: On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Time to test it. I am about to roll the classic 3d6; there will be no game actions in the roll other than a communications test. ... what do you think I did? /me pushes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge: Send-only address access

2008-12-09 Thread Ed Murphy
harblcat wrote: > Graa.. To make it official, TTttPF > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Chris Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> While I don't question the adding of a dice server as a send-only >> address, wouldn't it be proper to add the *correct* address? :) >> >> I intend to add [EMAIL PROT

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge: Send-only address access

2008-12-09 Thread Chris Blair
While that's where you *send* the random rolls, the roll results actually come from [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what Taral was talking about. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Jamie Dallaire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] works just fine, no? That's where I always send my random > rolls

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge: Send-only address access

2008-12-09 Thread Jamie Dallaire
[EMAIL PROTECTED] works just fine, no? That's where I always send my random rolls. Billy Pilgrim On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Chris Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I intend to add [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a send-only address

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge: Send-only address access

2008-12-09 Thread Taral
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Chris Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I intend to add [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a send-only address to the > Business Forum without objection. Given that this is just a correction of [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is already approved without objection, I have simply made th

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge: Send-only address access

2008-12-09 Thread Chris Blair
While I don't question the adding of a dice server as a send-only address, wouldn't it be proper to add the *correct* address? :) I intend to add [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a send-only address to the Business Forum without objection. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge: Send-only address access

2008-12-08 Thread Taral
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Time to test it. I am about to roll the classic 3d6; there will be no game > actions in the roll other than a communications test. ... what do you think I did? -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge: Send-only address access

2008-12-08 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Taral wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There having been no objection, I add [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a send- only address to the Business Forum. H. Distributor Taral, please let us know when the dice server can send

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge: Send-only address access

2008-12-08 Thread Taral
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There having been no objection, I add [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a send-only address > to the Business Forum. H. Distributor Taral, please let us know when the > dice server can send messages. Done, but it won't work: Dec 8

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge: Send-only address access

2008-12-02 Thread Taral
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hm. Could also be useful for TNP2, since it's been receiving a lot of > Agora stuff that no sane person would read from Normish.. Addresses that can receive but don't want to can simply adjust their mailing list settings: http://ww

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge: Send-only address access

2008-12-02 Thread Sgeo
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I pledge the following: > > {Players may add or remove an email address as a "send-only address" > to a specific Public Forum Without Objection. The Distributor SHALL > take what actions are necessary to permit (or prevent, as appro

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge

2008-10-07 Thread Roger Hicks
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 16:27, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I transfer all my lands, crops, WRVs, and chits to Bayes. > The chit transfer portion of this was effective. BobTHJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge

2008-10-01 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:37, Ian Kelly wrote: > >> I agree to the following: >> >> This is a public contract. This is a pledge. root CAN amend or >> terminate this contract at any time by announcement. Any person CAN >> act on

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:37, Ian Kelly wrote: I agree to the following: This is a public contract. This is a pledge. root CAN amend or terminate this contract at any time by announcement. Any person CAN act on behalf of root to cast on any Agoran decision a vote endorsing the partnership that wa

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge termination

2008-07-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I hereby end/terminate/retract/rescind/finish/kill -9 the Vote Goethe pledge, > as the pledge allows. -Goethe -bash: end/terminate/retract/rescind/finish/kill: No such file or directory

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pledge and equity case

2008-04-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But your CFJ shows you understood the implications of your allegedly >> reckless >> action. And the more you try to explain, the more you show that you are >> weighing the option

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pledge and equity case

2008-04-29 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But your CFJ shows you understood the implications of your allegedly reckless > action. And the more you try to explain, the more you show that you are > weighing the options carefully :) -Goethe I think that at most it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pledge and equity case

2008-04-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> But it's not a violation. As evidenced by the fact that you called the CFJ >> on the matter, you've "understood and carefully weighed ... the full >> implications of failing to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pledge and equity case

2008-04-29 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But it's not a violation. As evidenced by the fact that you called the CFJ > on the matter, you've "understood and carefully weighed ... the full > implications of failing to perform" and so performed according to the >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pledge and equity case

2008-04-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Um, "CAN and SHOULD" != "MUST"...? -Goethe > > Well, that's the point. I contend that doesn't matter, that "a state > of affairs whereby events have not proceeded as envisioned

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pledge and equity case

2008-04-29 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Um, "CAN and SHOULD" != "MUST"...? -Goethe Well, that's the point. I contend that doesn't matter, that "a state of affairs whereby events have not proceeded as envisioned by the contract" can follow from violating a SHO

DIS: Re: BUS: pledge and equity case

2008-04-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > I make the following binding agreement: > > == > > 1. This is a public contract. > > 2. This is a pledge. > > 3. Any party to this contract CAN leave it by announcement and SHOULD > do so at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge and Location CFJs

2008-01-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Jan 17, 2008 8:21 PM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A properly written pledge could probably prevent the joining, though to be a > contract, it would need to have had 2 parties at some point. A person intent on abusing the loophole presumably wouldn't write it that way in the first

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge and Location CFJs

2008-01-17 Thread Charles Reiss
On Friday 18 January 2008 02:46:23 Ian Kelly wrote: > On Jan 17, 2008 7:14 PM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Obtaining agreement requires that two people be involved, but "all > > parties" is just one person in such a case. > > The precedent in CFJs 1682 and 1683 suggests that this i

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge and Location CFJs

2008-01-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Jan 17, 2008 7:14 PM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obtaining agreement requires that two people be involved, but "all parties" > is just one person in such a case. The precedent in CFJs 1682 and 1683 suggests that this is probably correct. > Clearly, it would against the intentio